Tom Byron

I would agree with the more lingerie. Not all lingerie, but 'more'.

You did refer to RLD's Lingerie series, but I was disapointed in that one. Yes, they did start out in lingerie but very quickly (all too quickly IMO) they tended to end up nude - once again. Great idea that didn't quite pan out.

DenverDon

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I'm not quite so confined to lingerie though. I like the way Joey Silvera does things--mixes it up with both lingerie, and sometimes just something as simple as a t-shirt and shorts, which really do it for me just as well.

On the other hand, there are times when I like them to start out partially clothed and eventually get naked. I admit though that that's an exception to the rule. It's strange... depends on my mood, and the girl, what she's wearing and what's going on. :)

Mike L.

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IMO lingerie-fans get a better deal than we barefoot-fans.

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I can only base my comments on what I've experienced, namely a disproportionate amount of nudity. It also depends on what you mean by "using lingerie". Sure, the girls might start off sexily attired, but more often than not they end up naked or just wearing stay-ups.

Also, this is a general gripe, not specifically directed at EA. The too-much-nakedness problem is industry-wide and that's my point.

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I do think that Evil Angel uses lingerie more than the average studio. But could we use more? Probably. There's no such thing as too much of a good thing, IMHO.

Thanks for your input!

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I used to work in the lingerie section of a department store back when I was in college, and I have at least two ideas why you don't see more lingerie in gonzo type films:

1. It has to fit really well to look good, especially bras and bustiers (merry widows or corsets they're sometimes called). The only way to get a proper fitting is for the woman to try the bras and other items on in person, in a store. That means that each actress would have to have her own lingerie; it's next to impossible for more than one woman to share hers with another.

2. Good, sexy lingerie is expensive. I've got a Frederick's of Hollywood catalog at home here, and a pretty bra is about $28, and the matching panties are about $12, so that's $40 for the simplest lingerie. Add a garter belt and stockings, it's another $30. And it just goes up from there. Add to this the fact that the lingerie is going to get stained during the sex scenes, or torn or dirty, and probably can't easily be used again, and the money starts to add up.

But, go check out the Frederick's website (www.fredericks.com) and pick out what you want to see. Let your favorite director/studio know what it is exactly that you want, and he/she could send one of your favorite actresses to a Frederick's store in Los Angeles to get a proper fitting. Maybe, just maybe, you will get your wish.

P.S. What are basques? We don't use that term in the US.

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What we call "basques" are what I think you Rebellious Colonists call "merry widows"

As to your theory about price, yes you're right, good quality lingerie can be expensive. But then again that doesn't stop European porn producers using it FAR more than U.S. producers do. And even when they do use it, Stateside producers go about it in a half-assed way most of the time, or just use cheap tat that doesn't look particularly sexy.

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T.C.

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Below is a picture of a model wearing a merry widow, from the Fredericks catalog; it's a merry widow because there are metal stays that run vertically up and down the garment (you can see the white lines):

The picture below is a model wearing a bustier, it's a shorter garment, and doesn't have the metal stays:

So, is this the sort of lingerie that you are looking for? The total outfits in either picture would go for $70, that's not that much money. And the outfits are so skimpy, they couldn't possibly overwhelm the wearer or production.

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T.C.

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I'm not a real fan of lingerie myself - I prefer "booty shorts" or cut-off jeans.

I will keep your preference in mind on future shoots. I'm not sure about a line dedicated to lingerie, but you will see more scenes with lingerie now that I know such a desire exists, much as I try to include "feet-shots" for Ramsey!

Thanks for the input!

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But how about this: Shooting scenes with lingerie YET keeping the girls barefoot. It can be done and this way both parties are happy ;-)

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I think you have found the cost-effective way to handle this situation. Lingerie fans would get to see some nice lingerie, and the perverts get the autographed goods. Everyone's a winner . The director's could even film the actress at her fitting in the lingerie store, for some BTS footage.

One more thing I'd like to add about the ubiquitous fluorescent pink, orange or green fishnet tights that a lot of the actresses wear - those garish colors give the poor women yellow skin tones, that may not look so bad in person, but on a TV screen look just awful . Black or white tights, or plain pink ones would look a lot better.

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To clarify, tights and pantyhose are essentially the same thing, usually tights are patterned, like the fishnet ones, while pantyhose are the plain, flesh colored nylons that women wear with dresses. These are tights:

Stockings are the nylons, patterned or plain, that just cover the legs; they have to be kept up with a garter belt around the woman's waist.
You are right, these are much sexier.

I think that tights are popular with certain male directors because then a male actor gets to rip them open, usually with way more force than is necessary. I don't find it very erotic, either; it reminds me of a kid ripping open a Christmas present.

I haven't figured out yet if you are British or German, but keep in mind, too, that your 'knickers' are our 'panties'.

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