Many can't help it .. it was the way they were born and raised. They feel privilidged. Superior. So how dare anyone refuse to have sex with their race.

I would love for some gorgeous, slender, 18 year old, tattoo free white girl to emerge that ONLY had sex with black guys. And she did EVERYTHING with them.

For a while, many (whites) wouldn't complain because they dig the Black Guy - White girl interracial ( because instead of seeing it as a nice contrast in skin colors -- they get off on seeing the sweet girl being degraded by fucking "dirty"/savage black men).

But eventually they would wonder.... why doesn't she do anybody that looks like me? NOW YOU SEE WHAT its like when a starlet refuses to do black guys.

Yeah lets see how many "It's her body, her choice" type arguments we get when the group being exlcuded is the WHITE GUYS.

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Edited to add: I'm guessing there are some Japanese porn starlets who've never done white guys, but not because they wouldn't, but because they haven't been given the opportunity.

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There was a funny story some years ago on alt.movie.erotica involving porn starlet Heaven Leigh, who posted up and down saying she would never do a black guy. Then she turned around and did, like, half a dozen scenes with Wolf Savage.

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At least for now, the majority of male talent is white, is it not? So, if by backlash you are referring to your original comment about "career suicide" then yes, again, I totally agree.

If you want to make the most money in the fuck on film business, you will work with some white guys regardless of your preferences or motivations.

As for me, I think the situation you described is kinda hot, but it seems unlikely.

In another 10-15 years, white folks and black folks combined will be outnumbered by Hispanics in the U.S., anyway, so I expect most of the black/white race points will be moot.

I'm looking forward to it. I'm also glad I speak a little Spanish. I expect to actually get to use it in my lifetime.

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Performers should have (do have) have an absolute right to set their own terms, based on any criteria they choose. Just as studios have a right not to hire them, and we fans have a right not to support their work.

If a girl says she will only perform with one ethnic group, and is willing to settle for less work because of it, then the case is closed, as far as I am concerned.

One of the things that caused me to take a break from porn was the almost fanatical intolerance towards any girl who won't do everything or everyone that some fans expect from her.

It's really very creepy, and gives porn fans a bad name. We come across as uncaring brutes, who only want the "meat" to do exactly what we want, and with who we want, and if they refuse, we demand to know exactly why. Then we immediately attack their reasons, and refuse to accept their decision, without constantly whining about it.

We should respect the performer's personal choices, whether we agree with them or not. That goes for sex acts, choice of partners, or anything else.

The porn biz is no place for peer pressure. Haven't we learned anything from what happened last year.

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Sample text from BlacksOnBlondes.com:

"Yet another 18 year old black cock pleaser. She told us in high school she was known as the "White Cock Teaser, Black Cock Pleaser" because she only had black boyfriends. Most girls would be ashamed but she said she loved the attention this gave her. And an added bonus was the monstrous cock size of her black boyfriends. Brittni- Every daddy's nightmare, every black mans dream! She even has a tattoo on her pussy that says "Black Use Only". All members can email Brittini!"

Plenty more where that came from.

Sample lines from SpringThomas.com:

"Well, enjoy me bad mouthing another silly white boy...till next week! "

"Sometimes he's kinda annoying, but what Whiteboy isn't? He's also hung like most Whiteboys -- five and a half inches on a very good day."

"Then, like a good cuckhold, he went back to his cage where I allowed him to beat his little white pee-pee until a tiny amount of cum dribbled out. How pathetic!"

Now who's racist?

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I don't care who girls will or will not have sex with. The arguments made for WF/WM apply just as well to WF/BM or BF/BM or any other colour combination you'd like to name. It's all down to the performer's choice and comfort IMO. I'm not one of those guys who like to see people doing things they don't want to be doing, nor am I one of the guys who imagines myself into the position of the male performer.

In the end, if I like someone that much but they don't work with Peter North, I'm sure I'll see them with Lex Steele or Slayer. /shrug

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Now I know that its true that some white IR fans do not get off on this. They just like seeing different "mixes" having sex. Some may not even care what color the dude is -- the girl is the focus (that is my feeling most of the time).

But anyway, what I am saying is that these IR sites like SpringThomas and all these "interracial" DVDs like "inseminated by black men" ... "xxx has a negro problem," etc... these are targeted at WHITE MEN and the advertising blurbs are made up by white guys.

Why else do you think that Black Female/ White Male porn is not as popular? Because that is a niche market! The big market is going after the white males that want to see *their women* "slumming" with the lower people.

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It listed her as Jada Foxx. How little we know about these performers.
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There are a lot of white porn chicks who don't do black men because they "don't find them attractive". But there don't seem to be any white white porn chicks who don't do white men because they "don't find them attractive". (As other posters stated, Spring Thomas did white men.)

People are a product of their history. Not long ago interracial marriages were illegal in the US.

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As for the boxcover copy, sure I'll agree with you that it's lowest-common-denominator bullshit. It's the same disrespectful kind of crap that gives us so many mysoginistic titles and boxcovcer copy. It's where <name here> ..aka Filthy Whore and a Cum Sucking Slut called <name> come from.

Whether this reflects what "most people" who buy this stuff feels, I can't rightly say, since I can't speak or think for "most people". I know that my like of various performers has outweighed the shitty "filthy whore" title and I own several of those DVDs.

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Edited by - scipio on 5/21/2005 6:36:45 AM

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I have had to deal with this several times throughout my producing and performing career and have never taken offence, respecting that everyone has a choice to do what they do. I don't question motives (even if I think them strange) and only demand honesty from anyone who has worked for/ with me.

There maybe several legitimate reasons why a white girl wouldnt want to work with black guys and its not wholly racist, although it might be considered by those offended to be.

I remember doing a shoot with a girl called Laura Biggs who was nervous but enjoyed herself throughout the scene and rounded off by telling the guy Karl K "You're my first black guy"

I've performed a gonzo scene with a black girl I was big into and she made me cum twice! Relaxing afterwards she dropped the bombshell she doesnt really like black guys! Wow, talk about headspinner! She was a young black girl in her early 20's whose boyfriend was in his 50's (and white).

We could go on all day trying to figure things like this out and get all emotional in the process but thats the thing about humans: We're complicated.

Keep it simple and don't dwell on other peoples issues and respect your performers wishes and dont' create a scene out of something you don't agree with.

The only thing I say about this in general is that people are closing themselves off from certain experiences but it boils down to one thing: Choice.

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Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 5/22/2005 4:23:28 AM

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Is Jade still doing movies?

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This again raises the classic question: why is sex with a black man such an extraordinary thing? I realize that guys like Mandingo, Lex Steele, Mr. Biggz, Jack Napier probably make a lot of dough hawking their members, but, clearly (as the other poster said) they are popular because they feed into (white) society's stereotype of the oversexed, overhung Mandingo who only has one thing on his mind: ravishing white poon.

So, on the one hand the porn industry systematically degrades black sexuality, on the other hand, wow to the porn fan who demands more of this stuff; no, we can't have that, you uncaring brutes.

Gimme a break.

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I also think you would be hard pressed to name a porn star who acted "disgusted" when they were hassled over their sexual preference.

Maybe they were "disgusted" that a stranger actually had the audacity to tell them how to live their own life, when it's none of their business.

The best approached to any loaded question is to simply ignore it.

I agree that those films exist, but a lot of porn is just plain stupid. I remember a movie (I think it was a Dark Bros, not sure) where a black girl was gangbanged by several white guys, who were wearing Klan robes and hoods.

Yep, some porn is definitely fucked up.

Plus, why does the popularity of these movies have anything to do with a performers personal and private decision to only work with her own race?

It's not relevant.

Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but it sounds like you're saying that any girl who does porn should be expected to do certain things, whether she wants to or not, because other girls have already done it.

Here's the bottom line.

Not only is a performer entitled to set their own rules, based on the assumption that the amount of work they're offered will be restricted by those rules, but they're not even obligated to give you or anyone else their reasons, and in fact will be given more grief if they even attempt to do so.

A performer, who is in this situation, should simply say that their reasons are a personal and private matter, and then politely ignore anyone who won't accept their answer.

Edited by - Cyberchicken on 5/23/2005 12:07:33 AM

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These discussions are always rife with speculation based upon incomplete information and rumors. Besides, does it really have any bearing on a black man's career if a female performer doesn't want to fuck him? Considering all the love for 'big black dick' around here, it would seem the only one whose career would be hurt is the female performer. So, what exactly is the point is this continual harping?

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...that I have nothing new of any circumstance to add...

"corruptio optimi pessima "

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thanks,

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It's always going to be some white females in porn that refuse to work with black guys for whatever reason. That's just how things are. Not too long ago whites and blacks couldn't even get married in some places. So all the ugly history is still there and since most white girls in porn are from America, it's no suprise that few on them have "preferences" that include anyone but a black guy. They were probably raised that way.

I've heard people compare it to gay sex by saying if a guy refused to work with another guy does that mean he hates all gay people? It's a lame excuse and anybody born in America knows exactly why some white females don't want to work with black guys, even if they won't admit it.

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Everyone, this thread is not supposed to be the "white chicks who won't do black guys" thread. If you really want to open up that discussion again start a new thread for it.

Thanks,

scipio

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