You really should check out that Brea Bennett/Samantha Ryan scene from Girls In White 5 from Girlfriends like 15 years ago even if you don't want to post a review as it has a lot of things you have mentioned here like kissing and making out first, fewer positions and none of the more acrobatic ones and lots of oral while fingering.
Another thing, what would your thoughts be on a bonus scene set before your third episode? Maybe one of them cheats on the other, getting seduced in public such as a restroom but transitioning to the bedroom. This could set up your jealousy episode. You'd want your third actress to play the role of the seducer very well.
Thanks for the suggestion! Yeah that's a great scene. I really enjoy the simplicity the sex -- few positions, but done really well. Both women also show outstanding finger skills, though the nails are a bit on the long side.
Nonononononono... I'm a big romantic at heart, so no cheating, no infidelity. The whole series is going to be one love story. In my original post many months ago I talked about how this jealousy episode was to be set up, so let me just reiterate this. For the sake of convenience, let's say this is between Chanel Camryn and Dharma Jones (who has done some really solid acting in her All Her Luv scenes).
They are already a couple for some time now, but Dharma has been distracted by some things recently (study or career perhaps) and has been neglecting Chanel, who is unhappy. She drags Dharma to a party (it's very easy for me to imagine Dharma as the introvert and Chanel as the extrovert, a perfect grumpy and sunshine pairing), and decides to deliberately provoke Dharma. The party is filled with other pretty girls -- Freya Parker Alex Coal, Liz Jordan, Octavia Red, Braylin Bailey, Kay Lovely, Alexis Tae, etc. -- and Chanel is deliberately getting handsy with all of them. A friendly kiss on the cheek goes a bit too close to the mouth, a casual pat on the back goes just a bit too low, a corny joke provokes a laugh that is just a bit too shrill and girlish to Dharma's ears... From time to time, Chanel even turns around to look Dharma straight in the eye to let her know she knows she's being watched. All night Dharma seethes in jealousy -- she knows this is all for show, but she can't help but getting outraged. She finally has had enough and drags Chanel home, throws her on the bed, ties her up, puts on the strapless dildo, and proceeds to fuck the conniving little vixen's brains out.
Now, originally I had in mind two younger women for the whole series, though this particular episode would have been perfect for an older/younger pairing. Chanel and Kayden Kross would have been amazing.
Wow OK I didn't realize this! Since I just posted a comment a few days ago on the Charlotte Stokely/Vanessa Sky scene, I thought you were just talking in hypotheticals. I just went to their website and it seems they really have disabled commenting. Damn. I guess they just don't want to pay for the moderator any more.
This is a review of a scene between Chanel Camryn & Scarlett Alexis, with Gal Ritchie playing a non-sex role. It's released on 10/8/24, as part of the True Lesbian series. It's also billed as a "director showcase" by Stella Smut. The title of the scene is "Lust From a Distance." Or as I would have titled it: Sad Music and Sad Lesbians.
There is a significant non-sex portion to the scene, which contains a lot of aesthetically interesting elements. I guess this is what makes this a director showcase. I always appreciate porn directors/producers adding interesting elements on top of the sex, as long as the sex itself is good. I think this scene does a good job in both aspects.
The story is told via a therapist session between Chanel and Gal Ritchie who plays a therapist. The visual setup is interesting: rather than laying down on a stereotypical couch, or even just sitting on a chair behind a desk, the "patient" Chanel is sitting on a chair without armrests (unlike the other chair) at a very far distance from her therapist. The whole thing hints at her state of loneliness and feeling unmoored. I don't know if I'm reading too much into this, but the backdrop is also interesting. Chanel's back is to a turn of the hallway -- hinting she's seeking a change in her life by visiting a therapist. Yet she's facing Gal who's back is to a CLOSED door -- which is what Chanel is facing -- hinting at the therapy is not working out.
Which is in fact what we see in terms of the content of the actual therapy. Chanel is obviously distraught over the fraying of her relationship with her gf Alexis, and is feeling helpless. Gal plays the unhelpful therapist well -- she seems to be going through a checklist of things that should help someone, but she does so in a rather cold and unfeeling way, hinting at the lack of true empathy and connection between them. I have praised Chanel's acting ability before, and I'll do so again. There are not that many spoken lines, but I think she emotes in an appropriate restrained way.
There are many, many porn scenes with quasi-comedic therapy story that end with the patient and therapist doing it. This is not going to be one of those. It's going to be a sad story.
Chanel's character will repeatedly fall into reveries, remembering past events. She first recalls a moment where she masturbates to the memory of she and Alexis -- what is it with Chanel scenes and un-necessary masturbation scenes? There's a totally unnecessary masturbation scene in "Spun," and here I feel like this one could and should have been cut out too. Gal ends with having to yell at Chanel to pull her back to the present, only for Chanel to fall back into another pleasant memory again -- or perhaps this is a fantasy? Anyway, this is the main sex part of the scene, with Chanel being together with Alexis and the latter playing a piano.
She really does seem to play! The visuals, including the lighting and camerawork, of this scene is really good. Chanel sexily licks Alexis' pussy through her panties.
Her oral is outstanding, licking and sucking on Chanel's clit. She later also uses her fingers, first one then two, to fuck Alexis while also using her mouth. Gorgeous action. Near the end of this part, Alexis actually starts playing the piano while getting eaten out. Wow that's... weird. It's been a long time since I've watched a scene that mixes such loud music with the sex. Reminds me of the bad old 1990s.
One very sexy moment is when Chanel pulls her glistening wet fingers out of Alexis to suck on them. They kiss really nicely in this scene. Then Chanel gets on the piano with Alexis eating her pussy.
Alexis' fingering and tongue action are just as hot and sexy as Chanel's, who also sucks on those tasty fingers at the end.
Chanel then uses her fingers again to fuck Alexis from behind with both of them standing. Despite the slightly awkward positions, this is again done really well. Then Chanel gets on top of the piano again.
This is to allow face-sitting by Alexis. The oral from Chanel is again done really well, but this position is just way too awkward. We end the scene on an ominous note, as Chanel is again pulled out of this pleasant memory by her therapist.
It's always good to see Romi Rain. She is so good. The weird thing is that Kimmy shoot three scenes with the same outfit: two for AdultTime and one for Sheseducedme
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Posted - Nov 1 2024 : 9:28AM
^ In response to the person asking about the 'Birth' movie, there are active plans to have a line of pregnancy themed porn scenes called 'Preggo World' featuring both both cis and transgender women due to debut November 4th. So they may be trying to wet the appetite for that kind of thing in advance of the launch.
Yeah I saw that. It's totally not my cup of tea, but to each his own. My complaint is if they are going to do a series that would require significant makeup or special effects, why not spend the money on a series about weddings? Wedding dresses are so hot.
This is a review of a scene between Alison Rey and Silvia Saige released on 10/11/24. It's Adult Time's partner content, this time from Purgatory X, which is not a producer that I'm familiar with. I briefly looked at their website, which seems to have plot-based scenes, but unfortunately is mostly straight content. Anyway, overall I'd say this is a solid B (or perhaps B+ if not for the uncomfortable desk which they use for sex).
A couple of points of general interests. First, it's the first one on one scene between Alison and Silvia. So cross that one off from your lesbian porno bingo card, if you have it on there. Second, it's another therapist scene. Unlike the previous one between Chanel and Gal I reviewed, this one is much more conventional by porn standard, where the patient and the therapist end up together.
Of all the MILFs out there, I find Silvia to be the most naturally glamorous. Her devious smirk is very sexy. Too bad her lesbian performance is typically not the best. Anyway, this time it's a more typical porn therapy scene. Alison is a married woman whose sex life is getting stale, and Silvia the therapist is trying to convince her she's still a beautiful and sexy woman. She eventually does so by getting Alison to try sex with a woman, namely herself.
The foreplay is OK but not the best, as the kissing is pretty shallow. Silvia's oral here is not bad at all, as she focuses on licking Alison hard, but she does also closes her mouth on Alison's clit as well.
In a very nice moment she also adds her fingers to fuck Alison. In a less inspired part she eats Alison's pussy from behind, which I think just doesn't look as good. As Alison goes to take off Silvia's top, it turns out Silvia is wearing some really cute bras! Too bad they end up taking them off very quickly. Alison very nicely sucks on Silvia's big boobs while rubbing her pussy.
Alison's oral is superb as always, even when she has to crane her neck hard. This includes some very sexy analingus, and licking and sucking of Silvia's clit.
She also rubs Silvia's clit hard. Later they do a sort of 69 (though only Silvia on the bottom seems to be doing anything). Sivlia's oral is very nice in this part too.
Yeah the release date I cited was the date it came out on Adult Time, not originally when it came out on Purgatory X. AT licenses content from many other producers, typically stuff a few years old.
The face sitting position looks terrible. But do you not like it because of the sex, or because it's the "daughter" that is the one pursuing the "mommy" instead of the other way around?
On another note, I notice Kimmy has trimmed nails when she's fingering Romi. Good for her! I feel porn producers really should encourage this practice among the women, say, by paying an extra $50 for those who keep the nails on at least two fingers trimmed.
This seems like one of those vanity projects you do in boom times not when your industry (studio porn that is) is dying.
Plus, it would be one thing if you were using real pregnant women which has been done in lesbian porn many times (GFF did pregnant scenes with Heather Silk, Brianna Love and Alicia Silver among others back in the day) but to use prosthetics sounds like an incredible waste of time and money that could be better allocated to just about anything at this point.
Just Like the orgy they did for the 10th anniversary. So many women, and you barely got to see most of them because there were so many of them.
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The face sitting is not that bad for me, but I think in every scene for Romi Rain that I have watched, she always does these positions, maybe because she likes to go up and down with her tongue so fast. She is always so energetic in her scenes for some reason.
I'm referring to the camera angle -- when it's oral sex, it doesn't matter what position they do it in, the important thing for me is to see the mouth-on-pussy action. This angle from behind completely obscures it.
It should be shot from the front or side. Like this one with Charlotte Stokely and Vanessa Sky that I reviewed earlier. A huge bonus of this is this allows me to see both women's faces. Being able to see two beautiful faces, to me, is an integral part of a lesbian scene. The earlier angle actually hides both women's faces.
Anyway, below is a review of a scene between Vanna Bardot and Jasmine Sherni, released on 10/14/24. It's an excellent scene between my queen Vanna, who is dazzling as usual, and newcomer Jasmine, who is very impressive in this scene.
Vanna has her usual sporty, sexy, ponytail. Jasmine is a vaguely South Asian looking woman. This is a massage scene so the first 18 or so minutes are just Jasmine rubbing Vanna down with oil. She then just goes straight for Vanna's pussy with excellent oral, later on adding two fingers. This part is a bit short, but Jasmine's fingering style is quite interesting, as she does so with a twisting motion.
Only after that we get some conventional foreplay. One thing to note is that both women have really plump lips, so for those who are fan of this kind lips and deep kissing, this scene is just heaven. Another one of my personal favorite things to watch: Vanna licks Jasmine through her panties. Then she gets down to business and shows how beautiful her oral sex is.
More really hot kissing! Vanna then shows Jasmine her own fingering style: first one, then two, then pump and curl, then add her tongue... Pure perfection.
More oral follows. First Jasmine sucks on Vanna's pussy from behind (and also uses her fingers and thumb again). Then it's a 69, with Vanna licking Jasmine's clit from below, and Jasmine beautifully devouring Vanna's pussy from the top.
More deep kissing, including some hot tongue sucking! Jasmine also sucks on Vanna's breasts here. The scene ends with more very good oral from Jasmine on Vanna.
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Great review as always, and yeah, I totally agree with you about the camera angle. It's the same set and couch, so why don't they use the same angle? Unless they want to show us Romi playing with herself. I don't know about that. That's a very good angle for me. I hope we see it in this one.
I would like your opinion or review of that scene if you watch it between Sarah Arabic, who is new to the site, and Arabelle Raphael. I know she is good in girl/girl scenes.
Thanks for the kind words on the review! As for Sarah Arabic and Arabelle Raphael, I briefly glanced through that scene. They both seem to perform sexually really well, though as a matter of subjective personal taste, I just don't find them all that attractive.
Anyway, this is a review of a scene between Karlee Grey and Avery Black, released on 10/17/24. It's the second scene from Karlee since her comeback, and despite a couple of relatively minor problems, it's an excellent sex scene with outstanding kissing, oral, and fingering action.
The plot is nonsensical (as per usual) -- Karlee is a 911 operator, and Avery is someone who has come to thank her for talking to her during a crisis. If they really want to do an actual plot, they could have emulated an old Seinfeld episode, where a woman is recognized through her voice because she's a phone sex operator (I just looked this up -- phone sex is still a thing).
Anyway, as I mentioned earlier, the kissing in this scene is just outstanding.
The first sex position is just awful -- Karlee sitting on Avery's face in what I'll call the "double negative" position (and no, this is additive not multiplicative, so it doesn't turn positive), where I can see neither the mouth-on-pussy oral sex, nor the women's faces. Fortunately they later turn to "normal" position oral sex, where Karlee shows her delicious oral on Avery by sucking on her clit.
Excellent kissing continues. They then do some OK tribbing. Avery then licks and sucks on Karlee's clit beautifully.
She also uses one finger in Karlee. They then do facesitting again, but this time with a much better position/camera angle. It looks far, far better. Karlee's oral from below looks excellent.
Up to now Avery hasn't paid much attention to Karlee's beautiful big breasts. This mistake is finally corrected here as she greedily sucks on them. Even more hot kissing follows, with sexy tongue sucking by Karlee. Avery then uses two fingers to fuck Karlee from behind.
Then Karlee uses three fingers in Avery. The action here, especially when Karlee is doing this from the front, is outstanding. You can see she pumps and curls her fingers hard inside Avery, whose eyes literally roll back in pleasure.
Avery uses her fingers to fuck Karlee -- it's not clear if she's penetrating Karlee or just rubbing Karlee's clit, but Karlee clearly enjoys this part. The scene ends with more excellent kissing.
Yeah I haven't watched the Slayed scene, but both of her scenes on Adult Time are really good. I just hope she'll do some scenes Girlfriends Films -- and get paired with good actresses -- to lift GFF's fortune.
Is someone from GW here in this topic? Back in the days you could write a scenario and they use it sometimes. And I have couple of them and would love to send them. And mayby they use it.
The last time Bree Mills posted on this forum is 2019. Adult Time has recently gotten rid of commenting on their videos. So no, I think they are no longer interested in hearing from fans directly. I guess it's just not worth it to them. I mean, they have an AI chatbot system now. Mills used to write the scripts for early Girlsway videos, but now they are so threadbare that I suspect they can easily replace the writer(s) with the AI (if they have not already done so). Honestly I think at this point they should just do straight gonzo with strip-tease openings. Instead of bad plot/writing, at least we can get something actually sexy.
This is a brief review of a Mommy's Girl scene between Sophia Locke and Gal Ritchie, released on 10/19/24. Overall it's a solid scene with some very good oral sex, but there are several positions that I think that are not done well, and there are too many of them. I'll first show the parts I really like, and then briefly mention the parts I don't care for.
In this scene it's Sophia the stepmom who succumbs to the charms of her stepdaughter Gal. Sophia looks really good in this scene (as she often does). The kissing is really good in this scene, but unfortunately they don't do it that long.
Both women have really nice big breasts, and there are some really good suckling on them, but again unfortunately this doesn't last very long. On the other hand, the reciprocal oral sex is really good from both women. Both of them lick and suck on each other's clit.
The 69 between them is also very good. Sophia's oral from the bottom is excellent. Gal starts by licking Sophia's pussy, but I think later she starts licking her asshole (Sophia calls her "a dirty girl"), but too bad the camera angle doesn't show it clearly.
Sophia later goes back to conventional oral sex. Again, really nicely done. They also do 69 a second time, this time with Gal on the bottom. She sucks on Sophia's clit so hard I think Sophia really cums here.
Here are the parts I don't care for, scattered between the parts shown above. It includes oral (both cunnilingus and analingus) from the side, which just doesn't look like they allow good contact. It also includes the really bad face-sitting position where both the oral and both women's faces are obscured. Lastly, they also do some tribbing that I don't think look convincing.
^ they definitely could do some Gonzo GG porn. It's basically dead and replaced by ridiculous stories, probably written by AI. Real bummer, at least to me.
Appreciate your reviews here. Noticed you're not usually a fan of tribbing and pointed out it's not convincing in this scene. Can you think of any scenes that involved tribbing you actually found enjoyable or that the two were genuinely getting into it? I feel like someone like Maya Woulfe does an okay job.
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Posted - Nov 6 2024 : 7:48PM
Great review, I'm going to check this one out. Sophia is just making her way into the top g/g girls. If she keeps up with that performance, she'll be there in no time.
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Posted - Nov 6 2024 : 7:49PM
Porn written with AI isn't bad, but of course, there is some creativity that some writers have that the AI can't think of.
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Posted - Nov 6 2024 : 7:50PM
^You're not likely to find much actual tribbing, as in actually rubbing the genitals on someone (as opposed to pretending to make contact vulva-to-vulva, scissoring).
Maybe sometimes in original girlfriendsfilms, though I feel like it might be pretty rare there too.
I agree with you on Maya. In fact, she's always on top and goes super hard. The one scene that always sticks in my mind is the one with she goes so hard on Charlotte Sins that I joke smoke should be coming out (here's my review of the scene).
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The problem with tribbing is that they do it too fast when they do it in a face-to-face position. In this one, you need to take things slowly and enjoy the ride. No need to be in a rush. On the other hand, the best position to do it is when a girl gets on top and does all the work, so she needs to be good at it. Here, you can be as fast as you can because the contact is there, like Maya does, and Chanel Camryn and other girls who know how to do it.
I agree with you that in the face-to-face position they often go too fast. The problem, however, is not really the speed, but what's it for.
The key to female sexual pleasure, unsurprisingly, is clitoral stimulation (in the fetus, the clitoris and penis literally develop from the same mass of cells). To effectively stimulate the clitoris, you need pressure, which is to say, rubbing. Outside of fingers or tongues, this can be easily done by rubbing it against another woman's thigh (as I argued in an earlier post). I went back to two of the videos I referred to and grabbed some screenshots.
This is Holly Michaels rubbing herself against Dani Daniels.
This is Paige Owens rubbing herself against Freya Parker.
Keep in mind that the still images don't reflect an additional "bonus" from a viewer's perspective -- to rub, these women have to keep thrusting their hips, which is strongly linked to lusty sexual acts even outside of the "thigh riding" context. In the top/bottom tribbing setup, this can be done, but it's much more difficult to get it right relative to rubbing against thigh, which is why I advocate thigh riding.
So what about face to face? 99% of the time, simply due to the positioning, it develops into one vagina bumping/slamming into another. It's pretty much impossible to get any rubbing action on the clit. So to stage face-to-face tribbing as a sexual act to get to orgasm always looks unconvincing to me.
Yet this is not to say there's no place for this act. This can be done not as literal sex, but as tease/foreplay. This, of course, requires a slow/deliberate pace, instead of frenzied motion. As long as the sexual intent is clear, a lot of things can be very sexy foreplay without directly stimulating the sexual organs (e.g. kissing). So if they are going to do a face to face tribbing, do it at the beginning of the scene and slowly. They don't even have to take off their pants. In fact, for those who can't get the top/bottom tribbing positions right, they can also do this at the beginning of the scenes while still wearing their pants or underwear as foreplay.
By the way this is another reason why "thigh riding" is so good -- because it actually stimulates the clitoris, it is flexible. In the Holly/Dani scene, the slow rubbing/thrusting is part of foreplay. In the Paige/Freya scene, Paige reaches orgasm by fast rubbing/thrusting against Freya's thigh.
Here are abbreviated reviews of two scenes -- I'll just highlight the parts I like and leave out the not good parts.
First it's a scene between Ana Foxxx and Jewelz Blu, released on 10/20/24. Before getting into the details of the scene, let me spend a moment discussing nails.
To be honest, my initial feeling about this scene is just morbid curiosity -- I got a glimpse of how long Jewelz's nails appear to be, and I sorta just want to see if she's really going to do that to Ana. I have been quite critical on this issue before -- women using nails that are too long to finger fuck others. The results turn out to be quite fascinating and unexpected.
Top left: this is Jewelz's left hand. The image is a bit blurry, but it's clear that all her fingers have long press on acrylic nails. If she really uses these on Ana -- ouch.
Top right: this is her right hand. It's clear that on her index and middle finger, her nails are painted, but there are no press on nails. Nice!
Bottom left: out of curiosity, I looked at an older scene with she and Nicole Doshi. Here you can see, again, she has press on nails on all her fingers except her index and middle fingers.
Bottom right: here's an old straight scene (the dude is Seth Gamble). You can see the press on nails are on ALL of her fingers.
What can we conclude from this?
1. Ms. Blue is a consummate lesbian porn professional. Good for her! 2. Guys: unless you've informed her otherwise beforehand, don't ask her to finger your ass in the heat of the moment. It WILL be painful.
Anyway, here's the scene itself.
There's some sort of plot but I just skipped it. Anyway I'm very glad they have Ana for more scenes. She's beautiful, and one of the top g/g performers currently active. Jewelz is gorgeous (the blue hair notwithstanding), and it turns out she's pretty good at g/g scenes. The kissing in this scene is unfortunately not very good, and Jewelz's big breasts, unfortunately, is not worshipped nearly enough.
Not much to be said: Ana's oral is just gorgeous. The licking, the sucking -- perfect.
Jewelz's oral is very nice, but her finger fucking is beautiful, especially when she combines it with her mouth and tongue. Good thing those nails on her index and middle fingers of her right hand are short. She is obviously well prepared to pleasure a lady.
There are some more really good oral, including Ana's from below during facesitting, and 69. There are also some bad tribbing but I'll just skip those.
Here's a brief review of another scene. This one is partner content from the Adam & Eve channel. It's from a movie called "If You Love Me" which has three straight scenes and one lesbian scene. The lesbian scene is a threesome with Kenna James, Kylie Rocket, and Alexis Tae.
This scene is about the three women performing for the guy (Seth Gamble again). It gives me some serious 1990s/2000s softcore porn vibe -- there's a really sexy extended tease sequence at the beginning where the three women just dance together.
Gorgeous bodies swaying, gyrating, rubbing against each other; mouths kissing, hands caressing -- it's really, really hot. To me this is the highlight of the scene.
The sex is not bad at all for a threesome, with some very nice oral, but it's not that remarkable.
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Posted - Nov 8 2024 : 5:43PM
^I just think it's a travesty that they had Sonny McKinley right there for the first time in God knows when and they have her in a non-sex role. Although I'm pretty sure this must've been filmed a while ago when she was much more active.
This is a review of a scene between Kenna James and Anna Claire Clouds from the Lez Be Bad series, released on 10/25/24. It has been remarked upon in the LBB thread by whyalwaysbilly, and I'll just echo the sentiment that this is a sensational scene. This is a very hot scene, wonderfully filled with both sexy and sensual stuff, as well as hot and nasty stuff.
Anna looks really sexy and flirtatious in the opening. The dirty girl in fact wears a buttplug from the very beginning. The kissing is very nice between them, and Kenna briefly pinches Anna's nipples during the foreplay.
Here's the sexy and sensual part of the scene. Both of them suckle on each other's breasts very nicely. The oral from Anna is gorgeous.
More sexy kissing, then even more beautiful oral from Kenna.
Here's the hot and nasty part of the scene. They first take out a dildo, and Anna deepthroats it. Then she uses it to fuck Kenna while licking her asshole.
After taking out the buttplug, it's Kenna's turn to use the dildo to fuck Anna while rimming her. Later she turns Anna to the side and alternates fucking her in her ass and in her pussy deeply.
Kenna puts the dildo on the straps and proceeds to fuck Anna's pussy and ass (my one minor criticism is that the dildo is pretty soft here, so during penetration, often Kenna has to use her hand to guide it).
The scene ends with Kenna fucking Anna deeply in the ass. At first she rubs Anna's clit with her hand, later Anna rubs her own clit hard and cums hard. It's one of the best scenes in the whole LBB series.
I for one appreciate this series even when they don't always have stuff that match my taste, but it's nice to get variety. Lesbian porn doesn't have to be soft and sensual to be good. It can be nasty and good too.