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gainsbarre
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Posted - Jun 20 2008 : 11:22PM
San Francisco is known for its use as a setting in many classic films like Vertigo, Bullitt and Dirty Harry and, more recently, Zodiac. However, there was a time when San Francisco was also a center for porn production. Can anyone think of any Golden Age porn films where San Francisco visibly appears as a location?
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Posted - Jun 20 2008 : 11:27PM
There are many, however the names are escaping me at the moment.
gainsbarre
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Posted - Jun 20 2008 : 11:48PM
Take your time!
But seriously, I write about film and I'd like to do a little piece on this subject, so any titles you can think of would really help.
Thanks.
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I think some of the Wadd films feature outdoor San Francisco locations.
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Wadd titles shot in S.F.:
Jade Pussycat
All Night Long
Tapestry of passion
Most any Essex release has S.F. exteriors.
Other great S.F. titles include:
V The Hot One
Easy Alice
Seven Into Snowy
Baby Rosemary
Femmes DeSade
Pretty Peaches
Babyface
Overnight Sensations
Resurrection of Eve
Night Pleasures
One Of A Kind
Carnal Haven
China Girl
Midnight Hustle
Gina The Foxy Chick
Rendezvous With Anne
What About Jane
Daughters of Darkness (good BART shots)
Night Caller
Portrait of Seduction
Cry For Cindy
When I think of more I'll post. It's late (3 A.M. here) and I'm tired.
BTW, what's your article gonna be about?
 
sdc
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Posted - Jun 21 2008 : 6:19AM
Wasn't China DeSade also shot in San Francisco?
Son of Dad
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Extremes - has some nice aerial photography of the city
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Mr Creosote
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Posted - Jun 21 2008 : 9:08AM
I remember seeing a still photo from a movie called Health Spa with the SF skyline in the background of a girl giving head. It was probably a late '70's or early '80's flick.
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Posted - Jun 21 2008 : 11:37AM
gains - cool subject - i'd love to read your article when you're done.
gainsbarre
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Posted - Jun 21 2008 : 12:44PM
Thanks everyone, for your suggestions. Especially John Lyons, that's quite a list!
I'm not a professional writer, but I contribute to a film blog and have had my pieces mentioned on GreenCine Daily. I've worked and lived in a number of cities, New York, Austin, Seattle and now San Francisco. Film is one of my main interests and one of my pet obsessions in how filmmakers incorporate landscape into their films. San Francisco is, of course, one of the most famous film locations in the world. It's also a very atmospheric place that makes you feel like you're in a movie. I commute from Pacific Heights to the Financial District and, most every day, pass by the Brocklebank Apartments, where Madeleine Elster lived in Vertigo. If you're a fan of that movie, as I am, it gives you a little kick everytime you see it. There are a lot of other places like that in the city. I mean, in some fictive universe, I could list Frank Bullitt, Harry Callahan and Adrian Monk as my neighbors. Catherine Trammell also lives nearby. Now there's a woman you wouldn't mind running into. Or not. Actually Sharon Stone's character was inspired by Danielle Steel, who does live near me.
So this is a city very much steeped in film lore. There's a terrific book, Celluloid San Francisco, that discusses many of the locations used in many of the films shot here, but only mentions 'legit' films and doesn't discuss porn or grindhouse fare. What I'd like to do is watch some of the films listed above and write a little piece, discussing the use of the city as a location in them.
It'll take me a while to do it, so don't expect to see anything soon, but I'd be happy to post a link to it or just post the text here.
Thanks again, everyone!
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Posted - Jun 21 2008 : 1:09PM
As I'm sure you can guess, Chinatown was often used as a double for Hong Kong and other Asian cities.
Plenty of one-day-wonders used S.F. and Oakland locations but there are two many of those to list.
I would say that out of my list, V is the best bet. It has great views of Market St., the mission, the Embarcadero, etc and it's also a really good movie.
Baby Rosemary and the DeRenzy titles are also very good for North Beach/Tenderloin footage (and are also really good movies).
In many cases, although it was not illegal to shoot hardcore in S.F., west coast filmmakers would try to use nondescript locations to avoid anyone recognizing where their films were actually shot. In many cases, LA based filmmakers would shoot all the narrative elements of the films in Hollywood and then trek up to S.F. to shoot the sex parts.
I'll add Do You Wanna Be Loved, The Untamed, Body Magic, and Irresistible to the list.
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Posted - Jun 22 2008 : 2:31AM
Behind the Green Door
The Resurrection of Eve
Sex World
The Grafenberg Spot
Behind the Green Door, the Sequel
Also John Leslie shot many of his VCA features around different parts of the San Francisco area.
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Posted - Jun 24 2008 : 4:24AM
I wish porn was still shot in San Fran, maybe it would still be a bit more 'countercultural' then.
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Posted - Jun 24 2008 : 10:56PM
Deep Throat 3. Aja is walking all over SF in it. Has some excellent scenes too, love that movie.
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Posted - Jun 24 2008 : 11:17PM
At the very end of "Fantasy", the entire cast rides a bus around SF..don't understand why - but they do and you can see the Golden Gate Bridge.
 
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Posted - Jun 29 2008 : 5:27AM
John Holmes and Joey Silvera screw Fay royally and anally in Swedish Erotica ?. 1974 1975...? Opening scene, Holmes is sitting in a blue bathrobe on a lounge chair on a hot day overlooking the bay from some highrise. I've watched that particular scene probably 10000 times.Peace+
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Posted - Jun 29 2008 : 5:29AM
Maybe not that many, but close.
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Posted - Jul 1 2008 : 2:02AM
Just saw a few San Francisco location shots in Bob Chinn's Love Slaves.
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Posted - Jul 1 2008 : 11:10AM
^Good one! Love Slaves is one of my favorite Chinn films. The trailer is awesome too!
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Check out Beauty from 1983 with Loni Sanders looking out at the Golden Gate Bridge, riding a cable car with Paul Thomas. Plus, you gotta wonder if composer Bernard Herrmann turned over in his grave when they used his music from Vertigo in some of the non-sex scenes!---T0M
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That was the bartender's (Jon Martin) dream come true. Become a Conductor.
gainsbarre
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Posted - Jul 1 2008 : 9:56PM
Oh god, I have to watch that. I love Bernard Herrmann and Loni Sanders [though, not in the same way].
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Beauty is a good one, directed by Shaun Costello when he was working for Reuben Sturman, I believe.
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Posted - Jul 2 2008 : 10:42AM
There's only about 30 seconds of Herman's score for Vertigo right before the climactic orgy kicks in. The rest of the music is, so I've been told, John Barry's from Somewhere in Time.
Beauty is a really lovely film. Paolo Coeli's cinematography is really what makes it (you have to love his steadicam shots) as the story is pretty fluffy. That said, it's still damn good viewing; perfect for a quiet rainy night.
If you're in a Herman mood, Shaun's More Than Sisters and Waterpower are chock full of Bernard favorites (mostly Sisters and Vertigo).
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Posted - Jul 2 2008 : 8:32PM
Thanks Robert! ;)
 
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Posted - Jul 16 2008 : 11:49AM
I am just starting to watch more of the classic xxx titles and to echo John Lyons, V-The Hot One was fantastic especially in the use of exterior San Fran locations for V's streetwalking scenes. That being said, the interior brothel sequences in V follow the plot of Belle de Jour maybe a bit too closely (Watch Bunuel's 1968 film or even Kramski's xxx adaption of the Kessel story and you'll see what I mean)---I've also watched Baby Face in the past few days and loved the location shooting but V gave you a better sense of the streets of San Francisco---T0M
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Posted - Jul 16 2008 : 2:17PM
I think it is widely acknowledged that V is essentially a 'porn version' of Bunuel's Belle de Jour. 70s porn features were often adaptations or parodies of mainstream features and genres.
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Thanks, Black Six. The few reviews of V-The Hot One on IAFD made no reference to the Bunuel film or the novel. So, seeing the plot unfold the way it did surprised me. (in a good way, as it attempted some sort of straight adaptation instead of parody)---T0M
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Posted - Jul 17 2008 : 10:49PM
Well, I should say it is 'widely acknowledged' among 70s classic nerds.
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V is not my favorite Graver film. That honor belongs to 3 A.M.
That said, V is still an excellent film which treats its source material, both Joseph Kessel's novel and Buñuel's first film adaptation very well. The ending is outstanding, I think one of the best ever in an X rated film.
V is also full of so many subtle character building touches such as Annette briefly flashing the movers.
Again, it's not my favorite Graver film but it's certainly a near masterpiece.
Continuing on the original purpose of this thread, there were quite a number of gay films shot around S.F. as well.
The best examples I can think of off hand are Toby Ross' first four features as well as Arthur Bressan Jr.'s Passing Strangers which has some nice shots of the tenderloin and mission districts.
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Posted - Jul 19 2008 : 9:59PM
Nice that Belle de jour is getting some discussion in relation to V. A film I'd like to mention, in relation to both, is Una sull'altra, better known as Perversion Story. A lesser known Fulci flick, it was made a year or so after Belle and also features Jean Sorel, along with the stunning Marisa Mell. It was shot mainly in San Francisco with additional locations in NY and Paris [an unusual luxury for Fulci]. A nifty little giallo, it's got a wonderful jazz score by Riz Ortolani. I highly recommend it.
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Posted - Jul 19 2008 : 10:13PM
One On Top Of The Other is AMAZING! My favorite Fulci film. Yes, it has outstanding S.F. location footage and a beautiful score by Ortolani (which I happily own an original LP of as well as the new CD).
Have you seen the One on Top version or just the Perversion Story copy from Severin? If so, it's the French cut which is missing some important plot points. Even so, it's an amazing film
gainsbarre
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Posted - Jul 19 2008 : 10:32PM
I don't recall. I saw the version that contained the bonus disc with the soundtrack. Which one was that?
BTW, until you mentioned it, I didn't realize V had been directed by Gary Graver. In fact, I'm ashamed to admit, I never realized he had directed porn. Boy, is that weird. The same guy worked with Orson Welles and Annette Haven!
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Posted - Jul 20 2008 : 12:10AM
That's the Severin version. Unfortunately, no other cpmpany has ever put the film out on DVD, which sucks. Severin did a great job with it though. Too bad they were unable to track down a complete UK print (which is under the title One on Top Of The Other).
Graver is a favorite of mine. His XXX films range from admittedly bad to some of the best ever made.
If you haven't seen many of his X films, some of the best are 3 A.M., The Ecstasy Girls, Hot Rackets, Garage Girls, Coed Fever, Amanda By Night, Society Affairs, Trinity Brown, and Dollface.
He also directed most of the 1979 suspense sleeper, The Attic with Ray Milland and Carrie Snodgress and the totally over the top drug/hippie movie The Hard Road. Another personal non-X favorite of mine is And When She Was Bad...
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I'm a huge fan of Gary Graver's XXX work and consider him to be one of the best of all time. Too bad he denied being Robert McCallum through his death instead of admitting that he did make those fine films.
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