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| bargin Member  157 Posts 12/07 |  Posted - Feb 7 2009 : 7:59AMWhat has happened to the gonzo porn, it seems dead these days. I remember back in 04-05 when the current nasty sluts (Kelly wells, Angelina crow, Angela winter, Hillary scott, Kat, Keeani lei, Jayna oso, Katja kassin, Sierra sinn, Sasha Knox) were big they released movies every month. Nowdays you have to wait forever between releases for girls like Britney stavens and Aline, Girls that I think would be releasing movies every month if they could, but there seems to be a lack of gonzo companies. The only good gonzo company right now is evil angel and especially Jay Sin. Opinions? [Link] |
| Gunzo Senior Member 1377 Posts 2/05 | Posted - Feb 7 2009 : 9:05AM Things have changed, but there are still these guys who love the essence of shooting sex on film. [Link] |
| PL Senior Member God hates us all, you know it's true, God hates this place. - Slayer 1726 Posts 10/03 | Posted - Feb 7 2009 : 10:00AM World Class Adult Reviews [Link] |
| SmellsLikeAss Member I can smell gape... 299 Posts 5/08 | Posted - Feb 7 2009 : 11:43AM [Link] |
| The DMan Senior Member 1844 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Feb 7 2009 : 12:25PM More Aline and Britney Stevens (but with no squirting) would be great. [Link] |
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| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Feb 7 2009 : 5:33PM [Link] |
| junglew Senior Member 1042 Posts 12/02 | Posted - Feb 7 2009 : 8:41PM Wayne In Dallas [Link] |
| MrBenGrim Member 139 Posts 6/08 | Posted - Feb 8 2009 : 1:28AM [Link] |
killbillvol69  All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18631 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Feb 8 2009 : 1:31AM [Link] |
| wheat Senior Member You want a toe? I can get you a toe 1131 Posts 4/06 | Posted - Feb 8 2009 : 1:41AM Basically 98% of the web content out there is gonzo porn even if it's not as hardcore as you would like. [Link] |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Feb 8 2009 : 5:08AM [Link] |
| M vanHouten Member 183 Posts 3/04 | Posted - Feb 8 2009 : 6:01AM [Link] |
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| Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Feb 8 2009 : 12:51PM The word "gonzo" gets thrown out all the time for any movies that aren't features. But the real definition of "gonzo" is movies/scenes where the actors acknowledge there's a camera and they're being filmed. BUTTMAN is gonzo. SEYMORE BUTTS is gonzo. Most movies are actually "Wall to Wall" meaning they're made up of vignettes/scenes that may or may not be related to each other. They usually don't acknowledge the camera is present because within the context of the scene no one is filming them. In the non-porn world the word "gonzo" is used to mean wild, crazy over the top antics. [Link] |
| Mr. Sausage Deactivated User 330 Posts 11/06 | Posted - Feb 13 2009 : 1:51PM The site Anal Destruction was a good gonzo site. Someone needs to bring that site back. Here's a definition from another site about gonzo porn: "Well, it's also supposed to have more "extreme" activities added to it, not just your vanilla dick n' pussy sex. These activities would include ass to mouth, deep throat gagging with spit drool, heavy cock in the ass pounding, copious ass slapping, double penetration, cum eating, cum swapping, eating cum from spoons, ass felching, fisting, bizarre insertions, gang bangs, two dicks in one hole, gratuitous cum facials, etc." I'd go for more and better anal scenes. I'm tired of all the sites today that are so watered-down I'm tired of looking at them. They are just repetitive blowjob, vaginal, money shot. No more hands during the blowjob scene. It's a blowjob, not a handjob. ;) I like the site Exploitedcollegegirls.com: With less talking and more feeling the girl up, harder anal, cum-swallowing. Things like that. ;) ATM isn't that bad sometimes. Edited by - Mr. Sausage on 2/13/2009 1:52:35 PM Edited by - Mr. Sausage on 2/13/2009 1:54:36 PM [Link] |
| killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18631 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Feb 13 2009 : 2:44PM Here's the definition from the ADT porn dicktionary, provided by Tricia Devereaux, the wife of John Stagliano, the man who invented gonzo porn: "Gonzo can take on several different forms. It can vary from the cameraman (in adult, very often the director) interviewing the actors, or participating in the scene with dialogue and/or sex. It can also mean that the actors are simply acknowledging the fact that there is a camera shooting what they are doing. So, although in adult gonzo, the cameraman is usually somehow visible or audible, simply the actors playing to the camera constitutes a gonzo scene." [Link] |
| Mr. Sausage Deactivated User 330 Posts 11/06 | Posted - Feb 13 2009 : 4:05PM I call BS. :p I like the quote I posted much better. Than, "Hey, there's a camera in the room!" XD :P Seriously, bring back better anal scenes and cum swallowing. Also, let's not forget a blowjob is with your mouth, not your hands. Okay, class? Edited by - Mr. Sausage on 2/13/2009 4:07:38 PM [Link] |
| killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18631 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Feb 13 2009 : 5:00PM It's not BS, it's the actual definition of gonzo porn. "Gonzo" doesn't mean "extreme", "gonzo" means breaking the "fourth wall" - it means that the boundary between performers and audience is broken, and the performers acknowledge the existence of the audience (or in this case, the cameraman). The term "gonzo" comes from gonzo journalism, which is subjective journalism where the journalist is essentially a part of the story, as opposed to an outside, objective observer. The only reason anyone thinks of gonzo as having something to do with anal is because it has become quite common that the more extreme porn flicks take place within the gonzo genre. But that doesn't mean that gonzo has to be extreme, or even anal-themed porn. As an example, the site brandnewfaces.com, which features girls' first performances along with interviews about them, is gonzo porn, but the sex is definitely not extreme in any way (as the girls are brand new), and there are only one or two anal scenes in the history of the site. [edit: explained a bit more] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 2/13/2009 5:17:08 PM [Link] |
| Roads To Moscow Dianic Wicked Pictures,Vouyer Media, Axel Braun Productions, Marc Dorcel, JoyBear Pictures, abbywinters.com 1390 Posts 7/05 | Posted - Feb 13 2009 : 5:26PM The genre, as invented by Stagliano is about acknowledging the camera and breaking the fourth wall. You're talking about extreme sex, and that's been around forever - I still have Alex DeRenzy reels from the 70s that are harder and more extreme than what we can reasonably release today, and they sure as hell ain't "gonzo." [Link] |
| Mr. Sausage Deactivated User 330 Posts 11/06 | Posted - Feb 13 2009 : 5:31PM I see that type of movies as more of a POV type and it is very tame porn. Mostly the same formula in every scene, which is turning me off and away. I don't need extreme hardcore all the time. But, better anal, no hands blowjobs, and no more cum dodgers would be nice. Edited by - Mr. Sausage on 2/13/2009 5:32:28 PM [Link] |
| killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18631 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Feb 13 2009 : 5:36PM POV is a sub-genre of gonzo, which even then, can sometimes be argued as being something else, since there are vignette POV scenes where the actress is looking at the camera, but pretending the camera is a particular character, as opposed to the guy filming. "Gonzo" doesn't have to involve POV, as Tricia's definition states. In fact, anything shot by Khan Tusion or Chico Wang, both directors who are known for some pretty extreme stuff at times, is gonzo, because the various people in the scene always acknowledge Chico in the room (or Khan and his cameraman), who's talking to the participants as they're doing extremely nasty things. So it's definitely gonzo. It's extreme gonzo. [edit: I personally never, ever watch POV porn. But I would still estimate that the majority of the scenes I watch are gonzo.] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 2/13/2009 5:38:21 PM [Link] |
| spitty Member 730 Posts 12/04 | Posted - Feb 14 2009 : 12:00PM [Link] |
| Schmse Senior Member I'm not here, this isn't happening! 2571 Posts 6/04 | Posted - Feb 14 2009 : 12:49PM No plot, lots of funny and chaotic scenes, senseless interviews, sometimes girls without much make-up (which I really like) and so on... It gave me the inpression that there are some dudes just having a good time fucking girls on camera. That was great. Rocco, Mike John and Erik Everhard are directors who make good gonzo movies too (but not as great as they were). Some time ago I really loved Jules Jordan movies too, but he became boring and the girls look sometimes too stylish. Gonzo is not dead, but needs something fresh. Where are new innovative directors and really hot new girls (03/04 there were girls like Lucy Thai, Kat, Chiquita Lopez, Hillary Scott and many many others hiiting the scene. Now many girls just look the same...) Evil Angel is the best right now. Too bad RLD, Diabolic/Anabolic and PXP went downhill... just my 2 cents... Edited by - Schmse on 2/14/2009 12:51:10 PM [Link] |
| ntfighter Member 645 Posts 7/07 | Posted - Feb 14 2009 : 3:23PM Edited by - ntfighter on 2/14/2009 3:24:44 PM [Link] |
| killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18631 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Feb 14 2009 : 3:51PM [Link] |
| killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18631 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Feb 14 2009 : 4:41PM Or, are you referring to the thread of yours that I just locked (not deleted). If so, as I mentioned in the thread itself, it seems like something more appropriate for an email, rather than a thread in "The Porn Pool". Threads here are about general porn subjects, who likes what kind of stuff, etc. So a thread that's about forum policies or decisions doesn't belong here. If anywhere, it would belong in some kind of a 'meta-forum'; you know, a forum about the forum, where questions are asked regarding how the forum operates, etc. But we don't have that, so the only thing you can do is email Steph about your concern. So anyway, as I said, I don't know for sure which you were referring to, so if you could let me know that'd be great. Thanks. [edit: added quote] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 2/14/2009 4:41:57 PM [Link] |
| HeyNow Oblivious Gold Star Hey! 5965 Posts 1/03 | Posted - Feb 14 2009 : 5:39PM For those that missed it, I think it gist of it was that gonzo on DVD is dead. It was a sentence or two - I'd say it pretty much repeated a thought expressed on the "Steph Please read" thread. I will give the poster 5 points for being so observant that he noticed a small deleted post. Now excuse me while I go watch a pile of yummy DVDs. [Link] |
| killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18631 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Feb 14 2009 : 5:45PM That HeyNow, he's a sneaky one... [Link] |
| HeyNow Oblivious Gold Star Hey! 5965 Posts 1/03 | Posted - Feb 14 2009 : 11:10PM [Link] |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Feb 14 2009 : 11:33PM [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Feb 15 2009 : 5:20AM [Link] |
| juha Senior Member 2752 Posts 3/05 | Posted - Feb 16 2009 : 3:27PM By this definition an Eli Cross feature film would be gonzo because it contains rough sex. The sex doesn't define the film genre. It's the filmmakers approach that does define it. [Link] |
| killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18631 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Feb 16 2009 : 3:43PM I think I already convinced him of the real definition with my explanation above though. [Link] |
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