I have read and had it confirmed that sales for a gonzo DVD is like at the most 5k, that is unbelievable to me, that is fucking nothing, the margins must be huge, or they are making all their monney off cable distribution which I am guessing is the case, because that is such low volume....
Maybe these "studios" should realize a lot of marketing is not putting out much product diferentiation if you notice Kraft, Pepsi, Coca-Cola...etc...
Put out very little new product and stick to a few sellers that become cash cows. These companies seriously put out like 60 fucking titles a month, why not cut down on all those releases and make like two or three that kick fucking ass then actually market them.
Another thing, anyone who who knows about the show biz game knows over exposure is a fucking kill shot. Yet porno companies seem to specialize in over exposing somebody till they totally fade away, Keri Sable, Teagan come to mind....
5k sales is not fucking nothing, as an average gonzo movie is cheap to produce (think 15k-30k max in dollars). The profit margin in most movies is pretty good.
And how would they become cash cows? If Red Light District reduces the amount of titles it releases, everybody just buys what Third Degree or some other company releases. So Red Light reduced their cash flow and therefore buisness viability. This only works if every company agrees to it. And if somebody decides to break this illegal consortium, then they have more money from their extra titles.
Why would companies care if they are overexposing somebody or not? What is their motive not to? Somebody is new and popular, so they make money off of them while they can. Then they hire the next one. The Sierra Club is not interested in porn star conservation. There is certainly no evidence they are becoming extinct. Reality is that if one company doesn't put out a bunch of titles with flavor of the moment, everybody else will. Each will hope that picture on the box, or at least the name, will move some more product.
So what is the buisness reason to do it your way? Posts show that quite a few gonzo fans want to see the newest one off the bus anyways.
I don't think any producer will tell you more about his sales. If a producer admitted that a film with a certain girl is skyrocketing this would put him in a weaker negotiating position for the next vid. The girl would demand a bigger slice of the cake.
I think the sales concentrate on a few titles a year. Anything beyond the top20 really doesn't sell that much. The majority of the consumers buys only a handful of porn DVDs per year. And presumably they buy "Jenna Haze Darkside" or "Pirates" instead of "Barely 18 euro whores double blacked for the very first time".
I seem to remember that JJ and other top producers sell more. If I remember, there wouldn't be that much in cable sales because that isn't gonzo - or always hardcore. Same with hotel offerings. Those tend to be features, which would also help offset the higher production costs.
It's common knowledge that everyone in porn lies about how much product they move and even if they told the truth, people would accuse them of lying if the numbers seemed too high. One thing everyone agrees on is that Evil Angel sells a lot of product and at a price higher than most everyone else. Despite being universally loathed here, Vivid also sells a shitload of product.
You know, the only thing I loathe about Vivid is the effing commercials they force you to sit through at the beginning of all their DVD's. I don't care if Briana's a hot anal momma, that shit's totally fucked up. Bastards.
Well, OK, one more thing - more Vivid DVD's flake on me than anybody else's. Cheapskate bastards, lol.
5000 seems high to me. The world at large aren't all the avid collectors and connoisseurs represented here My understanding is that a typical DVD will have a press run of around 2000 copies and not all of those will be sold at full price. I dunno, other than Skeeter's mansions and fabulous vehicles and fame, is there anything to suggest that your average pornographer is a multi millionaire? I know you're a modest bunch and all...
All I know is that Grip Johnson promised to get me some real lights when Donkey Punch topped 1200 units sold. That was months ago, and I'm still using my crappy old Kinos and Dedos
That's very accurate. Most companies lie about how much product they really move. Yes, most people do agree Evil Angel sells well. You can usually tell from the markup prices. What's the most expensive porn in the market? Evil Angel and Digital Playground. You can check it out for yourself.
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My understanding is that a typical DVD will have a press run of around 2000 copies and not all of those will be sold at full price. I dunno, other than Skeeter's mansions and fabulous vehicles and fame, is there anything to suggest that your average pornographer is a multi millionaire? I know you're a modest bunch and all...
