I don't know about the candle wax, but check out Kink.com. I like Sex & Submission the most, but Hogtied is pretty good as far as more straight forward BDSM (shibari/rope bondage in this case). Sex & Submission, as it sounds, mixes BDSM with sex.
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Posted - Mar 24 2008 : 12:11AM
A lot of the stuff from Redboard Video from the early 2000s is really good. Just make sure to look at the boxcover pics to get a feel for the content of the video.
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Posted - Mar 25 2008 : 9:27AM
The redboard stuff was great. I wish another producer would start putting out the same kind of stuff redboard did.
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Posted - Mar 25 2008 : 11:39PM
The Image is great, but not super explicit. The bondage scene between Jamie Gillis and Serena in Ecstasy Girls, which was recently discussed on the Feature subforum, is great and involves candle wax. I also think I remember a scene with Marilyn Chambers and candle wax in Insatiable 2, can anyone else confirm that?
There's tons of Chambers bondage in Never A Tender Moment and Beyond DeSade... Don't remember wax in Insatiable 2. Then again, I barely remember anything about Insatiable 2...
Tricia you are right on the money. i am a big fan of redboard video. loved Kym Wylde, and her G/G fetish rough sex scenes. folks these scenes are real. i watch Nikki sinn, have Sid Duce, crawling on her knees. and i watch KYM destroy Melenie moore. we need another redboard video.today's G/G fetish scenes are way to soft. i would try redboard or some old Bruce seven, movies.
I really enjoyed Red Board videos back in the day, and know that "Duck Dumont" died and read that he and Kym Wilde had a difficult parting of the ways, but am curious as to WEHT Kym Wilde.
I wonder why Kmy wont start her own G/G line again. have not heard anything from her sice she did a few movies for kink.com the movies she and Duck Dumont did in the Redboard days were unreal. she was the best DOM/Sub i have ever seen.what she did to Missy in the movie UNCUT, was unreal. and the scene with Melenie Moore in the movie ON EDGE 6, was even better. i miss that kind of Fetish rough sex G/G.Kym please come back.hehe.
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Posted - Mar 28 2008 : 6:17AM
I have a copy of Kym Wilde's "on the edge 9". (I think it's #9 anyway) Man this movie is hot. P.J Sparxx complexly humiliates and beats Flame. Then puts Kym through the ringer. Can't even tell you how hot this movie is. These girls use good force too. Not the soft fake stuff.
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Posted - Mar 28 2008 : 2:15PM
I used to watch as much Redboard stuff as I could get my hands on. I was watching some Gwen Media stuff, but it wasn't usually rough or real enough for me.
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Posted - Mar 28 2008 : 6:17PM
Try also some of the London titles from the late 90's such as Family Ties That Bind with Chloe & Cleo Nicole. Also Bondage Proposal with the beautiful Charlie. A lot of the Bizarre titles are kind of hit or miss, mostly miss if you want real rough stuff. A great gem if you can find it is Swift Justice with Stephanie Swift & Roxanne Hall. I had a copy then some bastard stole it. But the memories are very vivid.
I recently seen a Inflagranti title that featured a good candle wax scene,a strict mistress putting a female in her place,plenty of hot candle wax gets poured over her ass then she gets spanked so hard the wax comes of in huge strips.I would have to go into my collection again to get the name for you if that sounds like a scene you might enjoy,also you may like some alexd films Link....
Tricia i have tried a lot of others since recboard went out of business. and like you said. the fetish sex is just not rough enough.redboard was one of a kind. the On edge series, was the best G/G fetish scenes i have seen since the Bruce Seven, days. i will ask again.why wont anyone do a line of movies like this anymore?
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Posted - Mar 29 2008 : 1:37AM
[/quote] The redboard stuff was great. I wish another producer would start putting out the same kind of stuff redboard did. [/quote]I agree. someone needs to tap this market. or is it you cant get most of today's porn girls to do scenes like this. [/quote] You can get girls to do these scenes. The problem is seeing theses scenes. Kink.com and other bondage penetration sites have cornered the market online and obscenity laws steer directors away from producing bondage stuff on dvd. I still don't understand why any 10 yr. old can go online and find sexandsubmission.com, but adults can't go to the back room of the video store and get it. Also, if anyone in the know could be so kind in answering this question for me, what kind of special waivers or insurance costs are there in case something goes wrong in a bondage shoot?
Kink.com is well good and fine. but there is nothing like having these kind of movies on DvD.nothing like having your fav movie in stock. and not having to pay for it and others movies by becoming a member of their website. we need someone to step up and start an all girl fetish G/G rough sex line of movies.
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Posted - Mar 30 2008 : 10:54PM
S&M is best with a scenario, if it's just two people in a warehouse doing shit to each other it doesn't seem as peverse and fun.
Edited by - BlackSix on 3/30/2008 10:54:55 PM
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Posted - Mar 31 2008 : 12:00AM
Yeah I think your right. Maybe that's what it is. I think I also like redboad cause they wore a lot of sexy fetish clothes. The ZFX stuff isn't bad either. Edited by - sickguy on 4/1/2008 2:31:38 AM
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Posted - Mar 31 2008 : 8:59PM
Black Six wrote:"S&M is best with a scenario, if it's just two people in a warehouse doing shit to each other it doesn't seem as peverse and fun" That's why the S & M shit from Avon in the 70's is the shits.
The problem here is the Companies and directors dont seem to care what a lot of we fetish rough sex G/G fans want. in today's porn if you dont want Anal this and anal that. or squirting this and squriting that. you are out of luck.nothing wrong with either. but what about fans like the ones in this thread? is there just not enough of us?
I suggest remaining with the German bondage producers as some have mentioned Master Costello, SM berlin; then try asian bondage producers such as those who are now making "China Bondage" series. Even though they are easily available from B&D pleasures, I say avoid their "Classic Japanese Bondage" series as the transfers were awful. Though their "Classic Japanese Bondage" series does have a lot of the wax torture you are looking for. The only problem of course is the language barrier for understanding of the plot set up.
>but am curious as to WEHT Kym Wilde. Largely retired. Though she is still around here and there. >I wonder why Kmy wont start her own G/G line again Mostly too expensive out of her own pocket and no one is going to hire her and let her have full free hand which she wanted over at kink.com. It was public knowledge that she was suing Duck for money as she was not doing well. >I was watching some Gwen Media stuff, but it wasn't usually rough or real enough for me. The original Gwen Media was largely meant to be sci-fi fetish rather than abuse a la Extreme or Red Board or sex fetish. Bob Zak was more interested in creating that other worldly create your own person ideal that you see in a lot of Japanese hentai most notably Ghost in the Shell intro. The new Gwen Media does not seem to know exactly what it wants to be other than better than Gothic in using the latex costuming as part of its BDSM storylines though I WAS impressed with their new Ivy Manor 5 Rubber Dreams. Though given what I saw at their big party this past weekend at Music Box, I think Isabella is looking to make her Gwenmedia into a competitor for the Suicide Girls rather than a niche film company. >and not having to pay for it and others movies by becoming a member of their website. we need someone to step up and start an all girl fetish G/G rough sex line of movies. Please by all means. Seriously, if you know of backers who are looking to sponsor and can afford to produce or hire producers to create for them, let us all know. There are a LOT of solid producers who would love to follow Ninn Worx who joined with Spearmint Rhino last year. >Wasn't Kink.com going to be releasing some DVDs this year? Yes Peter was but has found too much of his content floating out there OPENLY from several large scale pirate operations so that has been put on the shelf for the time being as he can't compete with a pirate selling his content at cut rate until he gets the illegal stuff all off the shelves. >but what about fans like the ones in this thread? >is there just not enough of us? Depends on who you ask and where that producer is located. In many countries today, what was considered acceptable just five years ago is no longer permissable to create. And certainly not to distribute. Just look at the trouble made in Japan when Katsumi Ono head of Nihon Ethics of Video Association (NEVA) was found out to have allowed two adult films to go unpixelated for mass consumption. It is common knowledge that OVER 70 percent of the sexual content film made today in Japan are UNpixelated despite the ban that is distributed locally, though most of the EXTERNAL country exported content still remains blocked. And Canada has largely deemed all BDSM films to be obscene as per their Moral Code law though PERSONAL direct engagement of BDSM between consenting legal aged adults is permissable as long as it is not filmed. And of course here in the states despite cries to the opposite everyone is STILL waiting on the Extreme Associates case before they really start to produce anything that has the model in bondage while the sex is going on. I guess that is why we are all still waiting on Ireland's Slutwerks despite the first film now being two years done? Yeah yeah she is working with Eli and HIS productions. But it seems more and more that it is the LEGAL problems that are preventing her from releasing at this point -- not that anyone is blaming her. Seriously. No one wants the lady to end up in prison or lose everything she has just like the recent Five Star did for a film because some minor official can't stomach hard sex while AN ACTRESS is doing a role in bondage.....
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Posted - Apr 1 2008 : 9:44AM
The thing I really liked about redboard was the dialogue. It's such an important element in this genre. Kym always and P.J Sparxx always new what to say at the right time. Edited by - sickguy on 4/1/2008 9:45:11 AM
Sickguy you are right on the money. the dialogue was just unreal. but i also liked the forced crawling on a leash. and the asskissing.it was just unreal. some company out there needs to give Kym wylde whatever she wants to get her to come back and do her own line of Redboard like movies. i believe they would make lot's of money. here are a few ideas. 1.Kym dominates Tiffany Mynx 2.Sasha Greay dominates Jenna Haze 3.Nicole sheridan dominates Savanna stern 4.Jada fire dominates Marie luv Would you not buy or rent a movie with scenes like this in it?
I doubt it would ever happen as again those who have money are not willing to go to the edge right now as too many countries have changed their permissions on hard BDSM content even in the Netherlands. Besides I think if KW REALLY wanted to, she would have gathered up enough funds to have bought out whoever had control of Redboard after Duck died and restarted if she was definitely interested in doing so. There have been MANY female producers who have restarted after complete and near complete losses before from Jewel De'Nyle to Skye Blue and several others. I think she is enjoying retirement at this point. >here are a few ideas. >1.Kym dominates Tiffany Mynx Can't see Mynx letting Wilde tear into her, especially not having to worry about her latest small child. So it would be a very light session. >2.Sasha Greay dominates Jenna Haze Sasha has no power behind her other than the stereotypical movements unless she is going to go and recite chereographed acts from Tara Indiana or Porsche Lynn. >3.Nicole sheridan dominates Savanna stern Nicole was never good as a domme nor as a writer. All of her latest films with Gothic Media proved that beyond a shadow of a doubt. Though she did have power as an endurance sub herself. >4.Jada fire dominates Marie luv Marie Luv? She does not do that much BDSM film work to begin with. And does NOT seem interested in doing much more. And Jada as a domme? As a sub with the right controller, she is not bad on-screen. But Jada as the domme? No she does NOT have the right energy for such a scene at this point if she is planning on becoming a serious onscreen domme. She would more than likely come off like another Sheridan or Mistress Aradia - stiff and unresponsive for the watcher despite being perfectly effective as a controller. >Would you not buy or rent a movie with scenes >like this in it? Nope for the reasons stated above.
Having a girl hold a candle in between her toes, letting it drip onto her feet. Steve's always thinking. I put a candle in a girls mouth and had intended on fucking the living shit out of her until the director wouldn't let it happen. Pity. Yes, I'm pouting.
Respect your opinion, but i disagree.Nicole sheridan would make a great hard dom. and i think you are wrong about Sasha Grey.you may be right about Marie luv. as i dont know if she's into BSDM. also think you are wrong about Jada fire. but to each it's own.i think movies like these would make lots of money. as i said. someone needs to make Kym wylde, an offer she can not refuse.i love her G/G fetish scenes.
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Posted - Apr 2 2008 : 10:16AM
I don't think the Redboard stuff was much harder than the kink.com stuff. I don't that's the hold up here. There is alot of stuff out there that you can get in most countries with that kind of hardness but it just boring. It's almost done like a real s/m relationship. As baby said, tow people whipping each other in basement is just boring. When your watching porn, you want a good story line. That's what made the Redboard stuff so good. It's was just how they put all together. Good story lines with good dialogue. Good use of of fetish clothing and props. If you can somehow get your hands on a copy of "on the edge #9" you'll see what I'm talking about. So I don't think it's cause Kym's content would be to hard. I think someone does need to step up and let of complete creative control of some kind of series.
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Posted - Jun 7 2009 : 5:16AM
Does anyone know where you can get downloads of most of the redboard videos? I can only seem to find a few.
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Posted - Jul 3 2011 : 11:50AM
Been a while since I posted but still on the hunt for this. In particular, I'm looking for a very specific movie. It's Kym Wilde's "On the edge 7". Any help would be greatly apprecieated. Sickguy
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