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| af369 Member 144 Posts 9/09 | I just saw Greg Lansky's "Anal Beauty" and "Interracial and anal 2" and I am blown away by the fresh new style this director is bringing to gonzo anal porn. For so long, "heat" in anal porn has been synonymous to fast, raunchy and (sort of) aggressive fucking. Not that there's anything wrong with that - I love Rocco and Jules Jordan just as much as anybody - but that style has become a cliché. In my view, there has been a void to fill - a huge gap between "sensual" (boring) big-budget no-anal porn and the super-hot fuck-till-you-scream anal porn by directors like William H. Nutsack and Jules Jordan (and all their imitators). With Mason's rise to fame, we saw a slight shift in the gonzo anal genre: she brought a little bit more subtlety to the table, and I think her films are fantastic, especially "DP Me". But Greg Lansky is even more adventurous: he dares to make his scenes slow and sensual, really beautiful, and at the same time steaming hot - we are still watching gorgeous women getting fucked in the ass and looking like they love it. I think his anal scenes resembles real-life anal sex much more than what we are accustomed to in porn, at least from my experience. This is what I have been waiting for so long: hardcore anal sex porn with a sensual/romantic flavor. I can't wait to see a DP scene directed by Greg Lansky. Do you agree? Do you know any other directors who are making anal porn in this new style? [Link] |
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| Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07 | At the start, the lady isn't quite ready. She is really tight. And her guy needs to take care with her to keep it pleasant for her. But the lady starts getting used to the guy's cock as soon as he enters her. She loosens up over time and perhaps even starts gaping a little. And when she isn't tight anymore, then her guy needs to pick up his pace with her. Or else she won't feel much, and neither will he. When the sex is nice-and-slow from start to finish, then this looks like the lady never got aroused enough to loosen up for her guy. Which implies that her guy was no good in bed with her. It's all about hugging and kissing, and not much about sex. Which isn't good for a porn movie. But hard-and-fast right from the start doesn't look good either. Because either the lady looks uncomfortable. Or it looks like the lady was already aroused, and her guy didn't do much for her. It's not a good quality fuck between him and her. Which is also bad for a porn movie. The ideal is where the lady starts out being nice-and-tight and her guy nice-and-slow with her. And then over time they progress to harder-and-faster, until the guy is really nailing her nice ass in the end. This progression from nice-and-slow to hard-and-fast is the way sex normally happens, when people have sex continuously, without any breaks in between. But porn is usually filmed a few minutes at a time, with long breaks in between. It probably takes at least half a day or longer to film the sex in one scene. This isn't the way people normally do it, and that's why it looks so un-natural, when you watch the porn-film. Porn-makers really need to think about it and do it the right way to make porn-sex look natural in such un-natural circumstances. And that's why only the best porn-makers can make it look natural and enjoyable for both the lady and her guy. The easiest thing to do in un-natural circumstances is to make it look un-natural. And that's the kind of a porn-film you get, when the porn-maker isn't good at his or her job. |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | |
| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | |
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| Mass Facialties Deactivated User "Facialized Vol. 7" 2021 AVN Awards Winner: Best Oral Movie 9308 Posts 9/13 | One more thing...what the hell is up with the name, Tushy? I mean, who the hell uses that term nowadays?! |
| Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07 | Manuel Ferrara is appearing in so many films probably because porn women are choosing him over other guys. Porn makers usually ask the ladies which guy they want to do it with. And one big reason why Manuel Ferrara gets chosen so much is because he so good at pleasing his women, better than other guys in porn. If you observe how Manuel Ferrara takes his ladies, then you'll see that he often tries to get as much as possible body-to-body contact with his lady. He doesn't just touch her sexually with his cock and his hands. He brings his whole body close to hers and often puts his arms around her to hold her close to him. He also grabs and holds his lady's tits once in a while. And he plays his lady's pussy and clit too, when he can easily reach it. Other guys in porn do some of this too, but not nearly as much as Manuel Ferrara does it. And some guys, like Mike Adriano for example, almost never hug and hold their ladies. It's only sexual touching and no affection at all. Which is very different from the way Manuel Ferrara does it. And the reason why more body-to-body contact makes the ladies like their guy more is because more body-to-body contact causes the human body to produce more bonding hormones, which affect the brain and the feelings. Some scientific studies have shown that affectionate touching causes both men and women to produce Oxytocin and other bonding hormones. And orgasm also causes a surge in such hormones. The way Manuel Ferrara does it causes the ladies to produce more bonding hormones. And that's why they like him so much. And of course, this bonding hormone production goes both ways. Manuel Ferrara also gets to like his ladies a lot, because he also gets a surge of such hormones as a result of having more body-to-body contact with his ladies. It's a mutual kind of liking. And that's why it works so well for both the ladies and for Manuel Ferrara. Edited by - Dan on 9/5/2015 8:59:52 AM |
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| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | |
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| Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07 | But instead of feeling jealous, I suggest that you try to learn from what Manuel Ferrara does with his ladies. Because it's not just his good looks that make him so popular among women. Him being good in bed with women is what makes him so popular among porn women. And this is something any guy can learn to do. All you need to do is observe what he does and get some practice in doing this too. Manuel Ferrara's French culture probably has something to do with him being so good in bed. Because it's a well-known fact that personal space, which people feel comfortable with, differs from one culture to another. In some cultures people usually stand closer together when they talk with each other, and they also feel more comfortable with touching each other. While in English cultures, people are more stand-offish. They keep their distance from each other and avoid any physical contact. This kind of thing is a cultural habit that people don't even think about They just behave like this automatically. But it makes a difference in how people make love and other such things. The French have a reputation for being good lovers. And Manuel Ferrara is French. Edited by - Dan on 9/6/2015 6:57:22 AM |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | |
| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | |
| CummingLinguist All-Star Member 5908 Posts 11/11 | I haven't checked out his anal site. I enjoy watching anal, but I find a lot of extreme anal (like gaping, ATM, ATP, etc.) repulsive, so I may like Tushy too. (I'm not condemning hardcore anal, just describing my reaction. Another thread discusses the relationship between disgust and lust; I found it interesting; others might too.) |
| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | |
| af369 Member 144 Posts 9/09 | |
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| Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07 | But I'd say that even Manuel Ferrara sometimes fails to take his lady the way French guys in France ideally would take a French woman for a ride. Because he is dealing with women from other cultures, and especially the English culture, where women aren't used to having so much physical contact with their guys. Not every porn lady makes it easy for Manuel Ferrara do his French number on her. If you want to see a good example of what French-lovemaking really is, then you need to see Manuel Ferrara's scene with Liza Del Sierra in Big Wet Asses 19. Because Liza Del Sierra is also from France. Which means that she is okay with him going French on her all the way. Here is a screenshot of what I'm talking about: http://caps2.adultempire.com/o/3160/720/1573160_04690_720b.jpg Edited by - Dan on 9/6/2015 3:43:57 PM |
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| Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07 | Perhaps guys chatting between themselves isn't so hot in a heterosexual porn movie. Because chatting guys attract the viewer's attention to themselves and away from the women. The guy in the movie needs to be totally focused on the woman. So that if you look at the guy and see his focus on the woman, then this automatically makes you look at the woman too. His attention guides your attention towards her. And this way the guy isn't a distraction. He actually helps you to focus on the woman. But I think there is more than just cultural habits involved, when porn women and guys have sex with each other. The problem with having a lot of body-to-body contact and affection in general is that it's liable to make people develop feelings for each other and even fall in love. Those bonding hormones that the human body produces in response to affectionate physical contact really do affect people's brains and their feelings for each other. But people on the porn set might not want to develop feelings for each other. And this might be the reason why people would keep away from each other and restrict their touching to sexual acts only. Some people say that sex-workers in Western countries often refuse to kiss with their guys. And the reason for this is that these women don't want to develop feelings for their guys. Perhaps it works like this to some extent in making porn movies too. There is some kissing involved once in a while. But I see more often grabbing by the throat, rather than kissing. The kissing act might be just an act and not the real thing. And it's that throat-grabbing that makes it hard to believe. A guy who really likes the lady will grab her tits and not her throat. |
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| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | |
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| Mass Facialties Deactivated User "Facialized Vol. 7" 2021 AVN Awards Winner: Best Oral Movie 9308 Posts 9/13 | |
| StarGrek Deactivated User Under the moonlight. 1763 Posts 10/11 | Greg Lansky is an acclaimed director and he has lots of followers. His artistic skills are broadly recognized by many of the adult community performers, colleagues and of course audience. Every director has his/her pros and cons. It is very difficult to find a flawless director who satisfies all viewers, because simply each viewer pornographic perspective is different and most probably highly subjective. And this is where the problem lies most of the times. Sometimes, having a preference on one specific type of pornography and driven by its impact on our perception, we deduct our judgments to every directing style. Greg is not in the same league of Jules Jordan, Mason or Jonni Darko. Greg style is different. He doesn't focus on the hardcore itself, but on the photography, the beauty and the sensuality of the action. He still wants to portray good looking people doing nasty things but he wants to do it in a different way. His creations cannot be categorized in a clear Gonzo type, but more in Nubilies, XArt, Colette etc.. In order to understand the difference, Mason herself has separated her work into HardX and EroticaX. There are other directing styles like the "RAW" style of Manuel Ferrara, the Anal POV Worship of Mike Adriano, the glamorous productions of Marc Dorcel, the extreme hardcore scenes of LegalPorno, the castings of Pierre Woodman, the Role Playing fantasies of Kink etc... Now personally I like many styles and It depends on my mood what I will choose to see. But whenever I do I am trying to adjust to the certain directing style. About rhythm... All adult men who had sex with a woman, know that all kind of penetrations need a bit of time in the beginning, in order the girls cavity to adjust to the penile invasion. This is very very crucial for her sanity especially when the penetration is anal. Of course there is a lot of preparation off the screen but every, every initial penetration needs its care. Now beyond this, through his creations Greg promotes the sensual aspect of hardcore. He wants to show the girl's vaginal cavity getting fully occupied by a big black cock or her tight anal hole getting stretched by a thick cock. (Some times the quick penetration shots are blurring the image in the money spot and we lose track of the hardcore sensation). However I will have to agree with Dan on the sense that sometimes the momentum, the heat of the scene needs a faster pace. A pace that will reestablish the chemistry between the performers and create the illusion of passion. After all the vast majority of women like it fast and intimate. But this transition has to be smoothly without destroying the beautiful imagery and the erotic atmosphere of the scene. Don't forget that Greg's intention is to create beautiful photographic instances ... in every frame. For that reason he makes many edits to find the best photographic conditions. I am sure most of you already know that a porn scene lasts for significant amount of time because there are many problems which should not be portrayed on film. (Wood issues, bad lighting, bad angles.. etc..). I know sometimes this constant editing kills the mood and the flaw of the scene but this is unavoidable. Perhaps should be more clever editing or better planning. I am sure he will get better through time as he will become more experienced in certain pornographic scenarios. If you ask me I personally like Greg style though I do think that there is still room for improvement. Now What I would promote more in general, is ... a mix of HardX and EroticaX, a mix of Jules Jordan and Greg Lansky. A mix of Marc Dorcel, Pierre Woodman and LegalPorno. Every directing style has some very strong advantages and being perfectionist I would like to see them all in a movie.
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| Mass Facialties Deactivated User "Facialized Vol. 7" 2021 AVN Awards Winner: Best Oral Movie 9308 Posts 9/13 |
Face it, folks, Lansky isn't going to change the style of Tushy (not to mention BLACKED) to something that's more "gonzo"; if you ask me, the current style has so much to do with why both studios are massively popular, especially in regards to DVD sales. I don't know about Tushy, but all indications are that BLACKED has a large female fanbase, and I would guess that one reason is because the scenes don't include much of what is essentially standard in today's gonzo porn-"rapid fire" fucking, slapping, choking, spitting, etc. Heck, I'd even admit that that's one reason why I've enjoyed BLACKED so much-it's a nice "change of pace" from the gonzo stuff I usually watch (Hard X, Dogfart Network, Reality Kings, etc.) |
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| StarGrek Deactivated User Under the moonlight. 1763 Posts 10/11 |
Now, I never diminish Greg's work on the contrary I recognized his value as a director. I DEFEND and PRAISE Greg Lansky photographic and stylistic approach which is different from many other directional styles and I concluded... I PERSONALLY LIKE GREG STYLE. I wrote "...because simply each viewer pornographic perspective is different and most probably highly subjective. And this is where the problem lies most of the times. Sometimes, having a preference on one specific type of pornography and driven by its impact on our perception, we deduct our judgments to every directing style." That meant it is not fair to judge an artist if we are not familiar with the type of art he represents. For example we cannot evaluate a hip hop singer if we listen only to soul music. I wrote "...Greg is not in the same league of Jules Jordan, Mason or Jonni Darko. Greg style is different. He doesn't focus on the hardcore itself, but on the photography, the beauty and the sensuality of the action. ". Saying that they are not in the same league, I didn't mean that one is better than the other. I just pointed out that Greg is DIFFERENT, not worst. DIFFERENT. You cannot compare Greg Lansky with Jules Jordan or similar directors. Like you cannot compare Playboy with Hustler or Lebron James with Stephen Curry (They both play basketball but they are doing different jobs in the court). Likewise these two adult directors are great but they represent different type of porn. But I also said ...If you ask me I personally like Greg style though I do think that there is still room for improvement. Now What I would promote more in general, is ... a mix of HardX and EroticaX, a mix of Jules Jordan and Greg Lansky… . Maybe this at first glance sounds confusing and perhaps against on what I stated earlier but IT IS NOT. First of all I didn’t compare Greg with Jules or with any other director of a different style and by any mean I didn’t imply that Greg should become like Jules or the opposite. “Every director has his pros and cons.” I said. However you can as a director or generally as an artist adopt the positives elements (according of course to your own judgment) of a certain director and encapsulate them in your own style. Going back to the aforementioned NBA example. Lebron James is a great basketball player but if he had the accuracy levels of Stephen Curry in 3point attempts or the talent of the last one in dribble he would be even better. As for the music example… yes hip hop and soul are different types of music but there are people who listen to them both. Plus you CAN mix them together quite successfully, as many artists did before. So summing up, Greg and Jules are great adult directors but they can still adopt positive directing elements from each other as well from other direction styles like Manuel Ferrara, Mike Adriano etc… and mix them creatively in their own unique working style. Mixing too different types of directing styles is not considered a "sin" or something alien. After all this is what Greg is actually did and still trying to do. He is trying to capture the beautiful, the sensual side of hardcore. He is trying to innovate, to fill the gap between two different porn styles by mixing unique photographic instances with hardcore action. And don't tell me that anal, DP or stuffing a starlet holes with big black dicks is considered softcore. However there are viewers who get the impression of a "vanilla" outcome and that is something that needs a bit of correction, in my opinion, because it is unfair for the quality of his work. Greg Lansky is a very talented director, in my opinion is from the best photographers right now in the industry. He is not perfect, (there is no perfect director in the biz) meaning that he cannot satisfy all viewers preferences, but as he will get more experienced in time, he will get better and better and he will manage to make most of them happy. I still strongly support my declaration about mixing porn styles and also about rhythm variation. Again there are times that the rhythm should be slow, sensual, "penetrative" and visually distinguishable but there also moments where the scene or the starlet asks for faster motion.
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| Mass Facialties Deactivated User "Facialized Vol. 7" 2021 AVN Awards Winner: Best Oral Movie 9308 Posts 9/13 | Censored your entire post? I only "clipped" the parts of that post that were not relevant to my response (and I emboldened the specific quote I was responding to); there was no need to re-post that entire essay of yours. Your "mix of Jules Jordan and Greg Lansky" line just didn't make sense to me; the only conclusion I could come to is that, like others who've complained on the Tushy (and BLACKED) thread, you want him to make his scenes more gonzo. And, as I stated above, not only do I not see that happening, but there's also no reason for Lansky to do it because of how massively popular these scenes/movies are. |
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| StarGrek Deactivated User Under the moonlight. 1763 Posts 10/11 |
Now, I always believed that Eroticism is the salt and pepper of every adult scene no matter how hard is the scene. No matter what form eroticism has. And by saying eroticism I don't mean blur image and slow motions. I mean expressiveness, gestures, intimacy, rhythm, playful atmosphere, attitude, style, chemistry, nastiness, PASSION! I want all the performers to take active part in the scene or at least give the impression they do. And I feel so so so much missporn who talked about kisses. Man I can't tolerate all this pseudo-professional mambo jumbo where the actors look emotionless while they fuck a woman or the woman is obviously thinking when the scene will end to take her money and leave. So don't just look the girl dude, show that you want her, kiss her, grope her, caress her, play with her, communicate with her or at least pretend to. Perform. You are actors damn it and this is your job! This is why Manuel Ferrara, Rocco Shifredi, Nacho Vidal and the rest of the lover mentality guys have so much positive impact on the opposite sex. They act! With the literate and metaphoric meaning of the word. PS1. From all the adult companies in the world my favorite is Marc Dorcel! Exactly because it combines successfully glamour, eroticism with every kind of soft or hard action. However even them have room for improvement. PS2. Some times I am critic, mean or acting like a smart-ass. I am sorry I am talking too much but really you have no idea how many things I have to ... testify. Sometimes I would like to be me behind the lens but in the end I know very well this is an extremely hard job. A lot more complicated than many think. I think it is safer admiring other people's creation and from time to time comment a few things. Meanwhile... Explore Sexuality! |
| matheuskramer Member 66 Posts 6/09 | He is always looking for the best talent and all the success never changed how humble and nice he is with them. The other amazing thing is the extreme cinematographic quality of his scenes. Not even the richest companies have that. He knows how to use natural light, how to get the perfect angles and how to bring the perfect pace so you really project yourself into the scene as if you were with the girl there and that is amazing, the best thing an xxx movie can give to you. Mason and Lansky are my great hopes for a sustainable and commendable future for the Adult Entertainment. They are bringing the greatest standards back, as Private did in the 90's with Woodman and they are doing that with 5% of the mega budgets of the past. |
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| llkuljd Member 76 Posts 6/12 | Lansky caught my attention with his Blacked.com series and I just felt bad for all of those who, unlike me, are not fans of interracial and couldn't get to enjoy his fine work. But now with his Tushy.com series, I am happy that everyone can enjoy the beauty of well shot anal done right. Meanwhile, while I am a fan of anal, his Black.com has moved away but is still the only series that's so well shot that I don't even care if its not anal. Basically, Lanky is the only current director who's work I would buy sight unseen. Anything he releases I know is going to be good. The only other studio I felt that way about is Cherry Vision, Bad Romance, and now to some extent Evil Playgrounds. For all, I feel like the least good scenes they release are better then 90% of the other main stream releases so all and all, to Grey Lanky I just say thank you and keep . . . "up" the great work. You release it, I will buy it, again sight unseen. Cheers. p.s. And getting the prettiest non-anal women to do his beautifully shot anal scenes is just the cherry on top. Not fair to say he's the best in the business. He's one of the best EVER (except for maybe Cherry Vision and Bad Romance, but possibly even better). |
| Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07 |
It's bizarre for anybody to presume to know what the audience wants, without asking this audience or caring about what people in this audience think. |
| Gof Member United Kingdom 151 Posts 4/03 | In many ways it's a golden period for anal lovers with any number of hot chicks out there willing to explore their sexual boundaries for our viewing pleasure. But the flip side, at least for those of us who watch a fair amount of porn, is that many gonzo films can become a little formulaic, a little samey, with the same strip to music, cut to naked girl, sex on the couch formula, just with a different girl. This is why for me, Jules Jordan is still the man when it comes to gonzo, as he manages to make every scene different whether that's by dressing the girls differently, using different locations, or adding a little role play element. I think that the current style in porn is to go for the no thrills, girl already naked, sex on the couch scenario, made popular by Elegant Angel's Big Wet Asses series and now taken on by directors such as Mason, LeWood. This kind of natural style may be good at capturing the passion of the performers, but is it visually interesting or arousing, particularly if you have just watched another three scenes that are exactly the same? I haven't seen any of Lansky's work yet, apart from some trailers, but if he is trying something different, more sensuous, then I'm all for it because it gives the viewer more choice. |
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