I don't think it has anything to do with 'the other performer not wanting to do anal' A scene with only one girl on the pole and the other one sucking is CHEAPER It's all about money
No matter how great some of your arguments might be. They become null and void the moment you call the porn that Lansky produces as revised softcore. It's 2017 and we have over 40 years worth of both softcore and hardcore porn to use as a baseline and if you can't make the difference then you need to actually watch some softcore porn before you say anything else. For now let me give you the basics. You can't see any penetration in softcore porn. That doesn't mean that the performers aren't having sex but the camera angles must not show the actual penetration. Examples of that would be certain feature films that Vivid, Wicked and Digital Playground used to produce. These movies had hardcore sex in them but they also had a plot, developed characters and non-sex related dialogue. It was common for those studios to have both an hardcore and softcore version of these movies that were normally meant for hotel in-room streaming movie systems. It was big business for those companies because they got access to a revue stream that gonzo studios didn't by the fact that you can't really edit penetration from gonzo porn. At least not if you want to have a scene that is longer than 10 minutes but a feature film with hardcore sex scenes easily can. I'd like to point out what is obvious to me but you don't seem to have realised yet. Performers want to work for Lansky because he's hiring women on a regular basis, he probably pays well, the porn he does is hardcore but not extreme like many gonzo studios and the women who work for him always look at their best. Case in point Charlotte Sartre. All that she had to do was wear a top to hide her tattoos. For that she got to film a scene where she isn't getting penetrated by two or more huge dicks, isn't slapped around, chocked, spit on in the name of porn but instead gets to film a standard hardcore anal b/g scene wearing a top and looking very beautiful. If you don't like that look then you have 16 videos on Kink, 8 on Legal Porno, 10 on Evil Angel and I could go on where she isn't wearing a top and where you can see all her tattoos.
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Ah, yes, you're right. I just took a look back on Keisha Grey's Star Crossed thread and noticed that Mason did acknowledge that the scene was actually directed by Mick Blue. So, as I was saying...Mason hasn't done anything for DarkX in a while. As for the director who is the subject of this thread, I find it hard to believe that Greg Lansky is going to make "Raw" spin-off sites for Tushy and Vixen, too.
He never promised a g/g site but did say he'd be filming more g/g. That may just mean more showcase movies with a g/g scene included in each. His comment came at the same time as the announcement of a third site and I, and many others I guess, made the wrong connection. I don't think we can expect a fourth site until everything else settles into a groove, so I'm not expecting anything now. Maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised in a year or two.
^You are correct. He never actually promised a g/g site but I think that saying that he wants to shoot more g/g in 2017 sort of sends a pretty strong signal that in fact that's is exactly what he is doing. I mean unless he considers a b/g/g where the women interact a little with each other to be g/g porn. If that's the case then he clearly needs to watch lesbian porn because there are no men in g/g porn. I don't expect a g/g site anymore than I expect another Lansky site because of what I posted earlier. There are simply not enough days in the week for him to shoot more porn than he currently does. The only way that will change is if he drops a site (not likely) or incorporates blacked with blackedRaw. In many ways that would make the most sense because they are basically starring the same people doing about the same thing but with some differences. Baring that then the only way to get another Lansky site is if somebody else shoots porn for him by emulating his style.
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Posted - Nov 20 2017 : 2:27PM
Does Lansky actually direct all the scenes?
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Posted - Nov 26 2017 : 6:59AM
What's wrong with the Vixen/Tushy/Blacked stories ? It's not half as bad as Nubiles'
^The obvious problem for me is that there isn't an actual story. Webster's definition of a short story which is what we are really talking about here is: an invented prose narrative shorter than a novel usually dealing with a few characters and aiming at unity of effect and often concentrating on the creation of mood rather than plot. Can you honestly tell me that any of those sites have ever told an actual story? I don't believe they have ever told a story. The most you may get is a very basic premise. Let me give you an example of what I'm talking about. I could pick any but let's look at Tushy recent scene starring Alex Grey, Cadence Lux and Jean Val Jean because it's still fresh in my mind. The first thing you notice is that there is no story, no characters and barely half a page of dialogue. What you have instead is one girl having a phone conversation with her friend who is complaining that they are going to be late for their first class after summer break. During that conversation one of the girls gets a text message that is basically an invitation to have sex with a married man and that she should bring a friend along. That entire description takes up about 40 seconds of screen time. The next shot is the women arriving at the men's house and all we are given for what is about to happen is a reference to a what the two women did in Cancun. The next shot is all of them drinking champagne which looks really weird when it's been implied that it's probably really early in the morning. We haven't even used up 2 minutes of screen time and we are already at the sex portion of the scene. Everything else of that 56 minutes scene is all sex. 1-There are no actual characters. 2-We don't get any character names except for one girl getting called Cadence which is a problem when that is her real name and not a made up character name. 3-There isn't any semblance of a setup (which would have been impossible with less than 2 minutes of screen time) so all you get instead is one girl telling her friend to be ready to skip their first class but doesn't tell her why or where they are going or what they are going to do until they get to the cheating husbands house. 4-There isn't even a conversation where you could get a discussion as to why girl #2 would even be interested in basically being a third wheel participant in a sexual relationship her friend has with a married man.
Greg Lansky tweeted "@GregLansky Replying to @xexstacynicole I will be bringing a lot of GG in 2017 5:20 AM - Mar 9, 2017" Well 2017 is just about over and I count a huge total of 3 g/g scenes this year - One each in the Lana/Eva showcases; and one between Kendra and Ana Foxxx in 'Kendra's Obsession'. So either it was a rather cruel tease, or he's shot loads more for release in 2018. Hm.
^To be seeing the porn world through rose colored glasses. I used to do that but I lost them along the way. You realise that the likelihood is that he never meant to do that and was mostly bullshitting his fans or maybe he meant to do more g/g but changed his mind and decided to work on his BlackedRaw site.
The problem with acting in porn is that it just doesn't work. For a a couple of reasons. 1: 95% of pornstars cannot act. 2: Porn doesn't have the right cinematic vision and crew to make it convincing. But some of the top studios try their best, and I respect them for that.
The intros for the Tushy/Vixen/Blacked scenes are good enough for me. Their purpose is to give the persons involved a motivation for the sexual encounter that follows. And they fulfill that purpose. I prefer that to gonzo scenes. If the intros were much longer, most people, including myself, would probably fast forward anyway.
Even if it won't happen, I still think the Lansky formula would work fine in G/G as far as setups go. The issue would be all the repetitive positions that people always complain about.
I don't agree with your percentage. I believe that at least 60% of active performers would do a decent job with most porn roles if they were given the possibility but the industry is no longer in a position to allow them the time to actually learn their lines and practices them with the other cast member. Digital Playground, Wicked Pictures and Vivid are all studios that used to shoot feature porn films. Even Lanky shoots a kind of scenario for each of his videos. Now imagine if instead of wasting 5 minutes of screen time to his idea of an into. He actually dedicated at least 10 to 15 minutes that introduced the viewer to the characters and we saw them interacting in scenes that didn't automatically lead to them fucking like rabbits two minutes later. As much as I would to believethat studios truly try their best. I just don't believe it. One of the best example of why I don't think they try hard enough is a recent g/g scene between AJ Applegate and Eva Lovia where Eva's character wants to become a stripper to pay her bills. I went on a epic rant in the Girlsway thread so if you want to read it all then be my guest but in case you don't then my main complaints are that the intro is only 2:20 minutes so not enough time to introduce us to the characters and they shot it in such a way that it impossible for us to know that it was shot in the same room but they tried to imply that it wasn't. I explained what they should have done to fix the biggest errors and it wouldn't have cost more money and very little extra time.
No, he actually doesn't - even back in 2016 couple of models confirmed that their Blacked and Tushy scenes were shot by another director Laurent and after Vixen and BlackedRaw launch it's possible that he hired more. Have yet to see Lansky give credit to any other director that's shooting for his sites other than himself so it's understandable why people assume he directs every scene. Actually he recently tweeted about hiring even more directors so at least he finally admitted it publicly [Tweet is no longer available]
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Posted - Jan 29 2018 : 7:29PM
Hopefully Greg White Roomsky needs the extra help because he's planning on launching a new g/g site (I'm not letting it die).
I would like to see Jeannie Pepper come back and see if Greg could handle her.
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Posted - Aug 3 2018 : 11:34AM
enteomega30, thanks for posting that article, I found it an interesting read. Some fascinating stuff in there, especially the story about Greg's start in the porn biz with Mike Adriano. As for what this fifth site could be, if it was indeed "Tushy Raw," as Aya suggested, I would be disappointed. Blacked Raw's content is of no interest to me at all because of the "raw" style of the video, particularly the awful lighting. The way-too-bright lighting that's incorporated for the sex makes it unwatchable for me. So, if there was a Tushy version of that, it would just be another site of no interest to me. If this site turned out to be what Aya wants, a G/G site, I gotta admit I wouldn't be real interested in that, either.
I think it's interesting too if we take into account that both directors are the best in the two "extremes" of the category, "glam / sofisticated" and "true gonzo" porn. I still dont understand how Lansky and Adriano did not make a partnership, since the "New Sensation era" they have managed to thrive in the industry and stand out today, either way so far my favorite sites are true anal, tushy and HardX
^ well for one, they shoot two very contrasting styles, so how would a partnership work if Adriano rarely shoots scripted and glamcore scenarios? as for the next site, could possibly be a Euro-centric site with talent and sites solely in Europe or he make a site that is another "Raw". I think we can count out the G/G site
^I think he painted himself in a corner with his current brand. G/G just does not fit the model, which has people wanting and expecting B/G. At most, he could make another spin-off site like "Vixen Lesbians" or something where he could cover the genre but not have to put as much time and effort into it. At this point, I would be fine if he made one but gave control over to a good G/G director to handle. Edited by - Aya on 8/4/2018 11:26:32 AM
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Posted - Aug 4 2018 : 11:10AM
Threesome or cosplay site please.
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Posted - Aug 4 2018 : 3:38PM
With Lansky's seemingly unlimited budget, the possibilities are endless. I am surprised that, after all this time, he still hasn't started a G/G site. If and when he does, I think a Lansky-inspired lesbian porn site could dominate the G/G genre the same way Blacked has the IR genre. By the way, thanks to the MODs for correcting/updating the title of this thread.
Superhot Russian Jia Lissa shooted for him in Greece (with Kendra Sunderland and others) and she keeps saying that b/g in front of camera is not for her... It gives me some hope, but i´m still not optimistic.
^Yea, I don't know if Lanksy would splurge that much for a G/G scene, unless it's part of another showcase. And plus, he's got the cash to make almost any girl reconsider her boundaries.
I thought the reason fans wanted Lansky to launch a g/g site was to relive his run as director at We Live Together. The director would have to be him or someone who closely mimicked his style. I have the opportunity to view tons of lesbian scenes, but not all that many good ones. Lansky's g/g directing style was far from perfect, but you did get plenty of quality, unobstructed closeups. By the way, do think it's less than 50/50 his new site would be g/g. Agreed with the person who thought it may be Euro in nature.
I am optimistic she's doing b/g scenes for him.. Can't see why else she be working for him. By the way, she's one of the more entertaining porn stars on twitter.
I really miss Gregs 'We live together' days and (correct me if i'm wrong) he also did some nice scenes for 'Momsbangteens' The big difference between those scenes and Gregs scenes nowadays. The use of color. I agree they all had the same formula and fuckscript (just like tushy/vixen) but I loved the close-ups, the kissing and the videocolor he used. Edited by - tintintin on 8/5/2018 6:19:57 AM
That was the original hope, but I really believe now that his G/G directing days are long over outside of a single scene inside of a showcase of his latest muse. So someone else mimicking his style using the brand formula is the best bet. I do think the chances are less than 50/50 though.
^ I think it's pretty funny how Kanye said he watches his porn for free on a tube site and Lansky defended that statement by saying it's ok because it's their official tube site channel - didn't he fight with tube sites few years ago? [Tweet is no longer available]
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Posted - Aug 12 2018 : 9:33AM
**ASIAN**...should be his new site...with all the top Asian girls...
Lol nomatter what site he would do...there's going to be a raw edition after that...lol...
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Posted - Dec 15 2018 : 2:12PM
So, in the end, it was just another "RAW" site that he had in the works. Actually, I've always been a fan of the original three sites (Blacked, Tushy, Vixen), but I have to admit I've kind of lost interest lately. I'm going on over 6 months since I last had a Tushy membership, and over 4 months since I last subscribed to Vixen. My current Blacked membership expires at the end of the month and I imagine it'll be a couple months before I feel the need to come back. With all three sites, the (female) casting choices seem to not appeal to me that often, a lot of "veteran" performers and very few "fresh faces," especially for Blacked.
In 2015 Lansky tweeted it's definitely something I want to do, just not sure when. My mind is on it though In July 2016 he tweeted So much request for GG! I love it. Maybe we need to bring it sooner than I thought. I heard you. Working on it. He even liked and answered some of the requests for G/G. Not anymore. In 2019 VixenRaw.
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