Has straight porn disappeared?

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Fockwolfe Member 104 Posts 9/04	Posted - Dec 29 2004 : 6:56PM Seems like everytime I want to see a fave babe, she's buried in HMA. Plus, the topics here are increasingly about gallons of guy cum. For example, I have the real hots for Selena Silver, but every review of hers I read talks about freaking DPs. Hey, Selena, I'd like to see you. Used to be the emphasis was on the woman, but not anymore. [Link]
PL Senior Member God hates us all, you know it's true, God hates this place. - Slayer 1726 Posts 10/03	Posted - Dec 29 2004 : 7:21PM HMA - Hairy Man Ass?? Anyway, there's plenty of one on one action out there. ZT typically does a good job of keeping that ratio. Plenty of Gonzo/All sex titles out there as well. When I think of Jules Jordan think of strong 1 on 1 scenes. isn't new Sensations typically the same way - I haven't seen their newer stuff though... [Link]
DP Jones Member 511 Posts 10/03	Posted - Dec 29 2004 : 8:09PM OK,your logic is inescapable,I love seeing girls get DP'd. Therefore,I must be homosexual. DID YOU HEAR THAT ADT?WORLD? I'M GAY! I'M GAY! I'M GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY!!!! [Link]
Renton405 Member 114 Posts 9/04	Posted - Dec 29 2004 : 8:15PM I applaud the guys that shave all the hair(peter north, brandon iron, stone, etc) off so we wont have to deal with HMA...In my opinion it makes the scene ALOT better...I agree a hairy fat man kinda ruins a scene [Link]
dauphin Member 6 Posts 12/04	Posted - Dec 30 2004 : 3:40PM I think Fockwolfe has a point. Though I don't think straight porn has disappeared. It has just gotten more bisexual. Before guys would not have been so willing to rub their dicks up against another guy's dick inside a very tight hole. Before guys would not have been so willing to fuck a pussy using the cum of other men as lubricant. Maybe the greater visibility of homosexuality in society has blurred the line between straight and bisexual. Things seem more homoerotic; more about celebrating "male prowess" as well as female beauty. [Link]

spitty Member 730 Posts 12/04	Posted - Dec 30 2004 : 4:20PM There are so many videos ,these days, dedicated to "one on one" scenes !! Check out the reviews !! There are also many 2 guys/1 girl scenes , and this is what frightens me !!! I can't understand what the appeal is of watching multiple guys with one girl , but that's just my opinion. Everyone has their preference and that has to be respected. I am hoping for the trend to go towards 2 girls/1 guy or girl/girl with more creativity , nastiness , and passion. I love the pure filth , even to the point of it getting discusting , but that doesn't mean that there can't be passion and good chemistry along with it. Keep it intense and filthy , but there has to be some kissing and other stuff too, and I DON'T mean romance or stupid plots with stories. [Link]
anti-pop Member 36 Posts 12/04	Posted - Dec 30 2004 : 4:31PM Seems like everytime I want to see a fave babe, she's buried in HMA Click to expand Before guys would not have been so willing to rub their dicks up against another guy's dick inside a very tight hole. Click to expand That also spoils the day for me, but the anal crowd is singing the "DPP, DAP, TAP and so on..." song (not only that but they're spending big $$$ on it). So I guess this is not going away anytime soon... [Link]
DP Jones Member 511 Posts 10/03	Posted - Dec 30 2004 : 8:09PM As a recently "outed"lover of DP's,I shant apologize for my lust of this act.To me,it's about the forbidden raunch of a woman letting two guys into her at the same time,and of two guys dominating a woman. But,I am aware there has been a huge increase in everything but simple one on one sex.A company like Redlight is a good example,churning out titles hoping to cover every niche which may be exploitable.I ain't complaining,but I know there is alot of it out there,and to me,at worst,it's becoming cookie cutter gonzo.It seems with 2 0n 1 sex,alot of gonzo directors are just going through the motions,like"as long as someone is plugging her holes,it's good.Cut!Print!Ship!" I don't look for one on one sex(I do like Rodney Moore,and some of the Up'n'Cummers,but for obvious reasons I don't think Rodney applies to this thread),but I do appreciate scorching one on one scenes,even no anal! I haven't even seen this series called Drive Thru(is that the title?),but it sounds promising,less editing,one on one,etc. Hopefully there is incentive for directors to listen to the straight one on one requests,because they definitely are delivering for us......circus act fans. [Link]
Mienhagen aka Shameless deactivated again Europe 696 Posts 6/04	Posted - Dec 30 2004 : 8:21PM Honestly, I dont care what other porn fans call me or the acts I like. As a matter of fact I shoot it off fastest while a girl is DPed or DAPed for more than 15 years now. Its just more fun to watch (for me). ...and for others there is really enough 1on1 sex out, IMO. The more as most MULTIPLEon1-titles are clearly marked by title and/or boxcover. [Link]
MASAMUNE Senior Member 1452 Posts 12/04	Posted - Dec 30 2004 : 9:16PM i agree. too much hairy ass man i like to see more of the girl which is why i like lesbian porn....the hardcore les stuff like lez perversions i hate having to look at a guys ass or the back of his balls like in those close ups i like the gallons of guy cum heres my idea.... we get some hardcore lezzie action, with strapons, buttplugs, and other toys (popsicles!), and then at the end at the critical moment, 6 guys come in and jizz on the girls' faces. i dont even wanna see their faces, or their bodies, just the necessary cocks and the squirting cum. and please dont show them wanking it for more than 10 seconds. sounds good? [Link]
BigMatt Member Sunrise Adams, Queen of Cute. 498 Posts 12/04	Posted - Dec 30 2004 : 9:34PM There's more DP, anal, gangbang material now. Lesbian scenes are now completely normal in all flavors of porn but when it comes to gay scenes the industry is as homophobic as ever... Ironic? Are we so used to lesbian sex that we think of it as something more "normal" than gay sex? [Link]
spitty Member 730 Posts 12/04	Posted - Dec 30 2004 : 9:35PM Sounds good to me !! Would the girls french kiss with all the cum and swap it back and forth alot ? I am also into girl/girl scenes more than anything else but a threesome is good too, as long as the guy is not too dominant in the scene. let the girls ravage him and each other. He's just there to provide the pole so that the girls get hornier and perform even better towards each other. They should make a "cumswapping" video , similar to the others but with a different twist. call it "spew for two" with the theme being lesbians having fun with a guy.Naturally , the focus would be on the girls having sex with each other along with the guy just providing the tool. The japanese have a title called "sperm lesbian" where it's a bukakke , and the women spend most of the video swapping cum and making out. [Link]
cv Member My reviews[/url] 594 Posts 7/03	Posted - Dec 30 2004 : 9:40PM Fockwolfe, You are looking for your porn in the wrong places. You should be renting discs from Vivid, VCA, or Digital Playground and other studios that specialize in feature films or "couples" porn. You should be visiting The Feature Side. Admittedly, much of the porn reviewed here does not fall into your ideals, but as far as I can tell, there are a lot of different people with a lot of different interests/fetishes and lots of people complain. Of course, reviews here are voluntary submissions from people like you or me. If you see a dearth of reviews for a particular genre of movie, you are more than welcome to contribute your own reviews. Good luck with your quest. cv Edited by - cv on 12/30/2004 9:40:58 PM [Link]
SelenaSilver Selena Silver 529 Posts 7/03	Posted - Dec 30 2004 : 11:14PM Fockwolfe wrote: Seems like everytime I want to see a fave babe, she's buried in HMA. Plus, the topics here are increasingly about gallons of guy cum. For example, I have the real hots for Selena Silver, but every review of hers I read talks about freaking DPs. Hey, Selena, I'd like to see you. Used to be the emphasis was on the woman, but not anymore. Click to expand Fockwolfe... ...Glad you are into me; sorry to dissapoint you with all of the DP scenes. I am going to have to think of way to make it up to you. ;) I gotta tell you - I actually love the act of a DP. They really feel good. I was doing them in our personal swinging life before I ever shot a scene on camera. Personally, I would rather shoot a DP scene than a one on one scene. I think a lot of porn is about fantasy; it is about seeing girls do what your girlfriend won't do. At least for a lot of people. For others who identify with the guy on the screen, I can see how they would prefer a one on one scene (or maybe 2 girls on 1 guy!). I really have done some good one one one scenes though - I promise! Here is a list to check out: Girl/Girl One-on Ones -Me and Belladonna in Belladonna's "Bellas Perversions 3" (Sineplex) -Me and Holly Stevens in Britney Foster's "Disturbed 2" (Metro's Fusxion) -Me and Sophia in Jason D's "Lez Perversions 5" (Sineplex) Boy/Girl One-on-Ones -Me and Kris Slater in Guy Capo's "GrudgeFuck" (DVSX) -Me and Mark Ashley in Axel Braun's "Anal Retentive 2" (Digital Sin) -Me and Kris Slater in Alex Ladd's "Deep in Cream 5" (DVSX) -Me and Mr. Pete in Jonni Darkko's "Anal Perversions 3" (Digital Sin) -Me and Jay in Kat Slater's "Campus Confessions 9" (Hustler) -Me and Manuel Ferrara in Manuel Ferrara/Steve Holmes "The Pussy is Not Enough 2" -Me and Chris Charming in Pat Myne's "Lethal Injections" (Metro's Fusxion) -Me and Joey Ray in Kat Slater's "Young Sluts, Inc. 14" (Hustler) -Me and Tony Tedeschi in Guy Capo's "Sex, Drugs, & Rock n Roll" (Evolution Erotica) -Me and JR King in "Ebony and Ivory" (Elegant Angel) -Me and Brandon Iron in Michael Stefano's "Fresh New Faces" (Platinum X Pictures) And, of course... Have you seen my solo "Selena Silver At Home" movie? Hope the helps give you a place to start enjoying some one-one-one Selena Silver. Check out my Selena Silver movie database for full cast listings for all these movies and exactly what happened in the scene as well as links to plenty of reviews and some trailers. Selena Silver - SelenaSilver.com [Link]
Kperv The Cuddler *struck (She slipped) 1818 Posts 1/04	Posted - Dec 31 2004 : 7:27AM Another scene with Selena worth mentioning is her scene with Ariana Jolee and Joey Ray in Butt-a-bang. It's got the feel of a girl/girl scene, with Joey there to provide a dick as a good quiet fuck toy. And they're both barefoot. Yay. [Link]

valjean4876 Member 953 Posts 3/04	Posted - Dec 31 2004 : 8:47AM Kperv wrote: And they're both barefoot. Yay. Click to expand It's a miracle! [Link]
TonyC Comstock Films 2523 Posts 8/03	Posted - Dec 31 2004 : 9:27AM I think Mr. Fockwolfe is confusing porn made for men who like having sex with other men with porn made for men who don't like sex at all. -T.C. [Link]
spitty Member 730 Posts 12/04	Posted - Dec 31 2004 : 10:07AM I think that DP Jones touched on something that gave this fascination with DP a clearer explanation. It seems to be the "domination" aspect that enters into it. The fact that a woman is getting totally manhandled and/or defiled by many men seems to attract alot of attention. Are most porn watchers into domination of women ? Maybe that's why Britney Foster insists on 2 girls plunging a dildo into another girl without any passion. It's all animalistic domination. I like raunchy girl/girl and girl/girl/guy scenes alot but I can't get into too much domination. All participants must be fully into each other at all times. To me . it's all about the women. I want to see the girls , not the guys. There are enough resources to go around for everybody and every taste. If you want to see lots of men per scene , there is no shortage. same for one on one or lesbian. The shortage is in the "quality" department !! [Link]
AC Cream Deactivated User 1066 Posts 5/04	Posted - Dec 31 2004 : 11:26AM cv wrote: Fockwolfe, You are looking for your porn in the wrong places. You should be renting discs from Vivid, VCA, or Digital Playground and other studios that specialize in feature films or "couples" porn. Click to expand These type of "you should watch features" comments are complete BS! Fuckwolfe has a very good point. He kinda got lost in the "gay talk", but cv & everybody else that dismisses people who make points like this thread in that way should check out some Porn history. Check out late 90's & early 2000's Hardcore/Gonzo(the great stuff that created the huge market that the current circus act directors are shitting on the memory of) and see how the female Performers were the focus of the scenes. Not just some piece of meat that we can see how many "kabobs" can be jammed in her. Fuckwolfe, The 1 on 1 female as the focus(the Star) genre is almost non-existent in today's Porn. Sean Michaels is still doing it, but if Interracial isn't your thing Peter North's North Pole series occasionally has these type of scenes. Also Jules Jordan has a scene or 2 in his films usually that you might enjoy. There may be a few others, but they aren't coming to mind right now. Good Luck Fuckwolfe, AC Cream [Link]
Skeeter Kerkove Member 967 Posts 2/03	Posted - Dec 31 2004 : 12:30PM As of December 29th, I filmed 367 sex scenes in the year 2004. True enough every single sex scene had anal. However, over 120 of the sex scenes were one on one. One girl and one guy. About 33 percent of what I filmed was one on one. Shooting one on one sex scenes are of course, the least expensive to shoot. In the san fernando valley, at least 5 days out of the week, there are easily over 60 one on one sex scenes filmed per week. There is alot of one on one being filmed. Alot of the producers, like myself, just did not market it as one one one. My movie Stick it, is all one on one sex. The most successful producers are filming what is truly making them the most money! Hopefully, some other people will be able to post a bunch of movies on this thread, to inform who is interested, in movies that are all one on one sex. The producers would love for this to really take off well, because they are the least expensive to film. While I was filming my last sex scene for Stick it # 3, I decided to turn it into a wild orgy, 4 girls 3 guys. The scene cost almost 7 thousand dollars. That was scene # 5 for the day. Remember, all of these group scenes are expensive to shoot. The Gonzo porn FAN! I know, I am one of them, demands group sex scenes. One on sex scenes is now a niche. There is alot of money to be made there, as long as it is marketed correctly. Good luck on your mission! To possess and view one on one sex! The New Year will bring you many fruits for your labor. Showering down from the heavens, like gifts from God, will be lots of DVD's of one on one sex! Skeeter Kerkove "King of Sodom" Bridgettes website has over 400 sets of one on one sex that we have filmed. So that is proof, it exists, even from us! Porn producer, director, performer. I am a huge fan of hardcore porn and I love [Link]
Para13 Member 12 Posts 1/04	Posted - Dec 31 2004 : 2:58PM I've not read every post here in this thread, but I do have something to say about this one. I watch porn, and good porn in fact as much as anyone, probably more than average. I like it and it's REALLY REALLY clear and not blurred at all as to what and why. Just because there is more top rate porn out there nowadays which is inclusive of DPs, hard anal, and group sex, which I like, doesn't mean it's bisexual or semi-queer, or flat out gay at all. That's just a load of bunk! Excepting with the girl on girl stuff. But that's Ok. There is as much as difference between night and day as there is between guys fucking other guys and a couple or more guys all interested in the girl and fucking her! It's not homosexual, it's not cloudy and it's not unclear as to the difference or as to the sexual orientation involved. As for male prowess, well porn has always been about that as much as anything. It takes two parts to make it work doesn't it? Derek Jolly dauphin wrote: I think Fockwolfe has a point. Though I don't think straight porn has disappeared. It has just gotten more bisexual. Before guys would not have been so willing to rub their dicks up against another guy's dick inside a very tight hole. Before guys would not have been so willing to fuck a pussy using the cum of other men as lubricant. Maybe the greater visibility of homosexuality in society has blurred the line between straight and bisexual. Things seem more homoerotic; more about celebrating "male prowess" as well as female beauty. Click to expand [Link]
AC Cream Deactivated User 1066 Posts 5/04	Posted - Dec 31 2004 : 3:54PM Skeeter Kerkove wrote: As of December 29th, I filmed 367 sex scenes in the year 2004. True enough every single sex scene had anal. However, over 120 of the sex scenes were one on one. One girl and one guy. About 33 percent of what I filmed was one on one. Shooting one on one sex scenes are of course, the least expensive to shoot. In the san fernando valley, at least 5 days out of the week, there are easily over 60 one on one sex scenes filmed per week. There is alot of one on one being filmed. Alot of the producers, like myself, just did not market it as one one one. My movie Stick it, is all one on one sex. The most successful producers are filming what is truly making them the most money! Hopefully, some other people will be able to post a bunch of movies on this thread, to inform who is interested, in movies that are all one on one sex. The producers would love for this to really take off well, because they are the least expensive to film. Click to expand WOW! What a shock this post was. Skeeter Kerkove in favor of 1 on 1 sex making a comeback!? Skeeter Kerkove wrote: One on sex scenes is now a niche. There is alot of money to be made there, as long as it is marketed correctly. Good luck on your mission! To possess and view one on one sex! The New Year will bring you many fruits for your labor. Showering down from the heavens, like gifts from God, will be lots of DVD's of one on one sex! Click to expand There will always be 1 on 1 films shot(for the reasons you laid out Skeeter), BUT I think most of the 1 on 1 scenes being shot today aren't in the style Fuckwolfe was referring to. Just because it's 1 on 1 doesn't mean the focus is on the female performer. A lot of the 1 on 1 stuff being shot today is about the guy fucking the female...."look at me Mr. Assclown fuck this nameless chick in the ass". Basically the focus is on what the guy is doing to the female performer. Which kinda comes back to what I think Fulkwolfe was saying that it seems like today's Porn is getting a gay slant to it. More men in a scene than women, multiple cumshots, bigger dicks! bigger dicks! bigger dicks!, & the removal of things that STRAIGHT men are into like passionate kissing, pussy easting, & (females receiving)salad tossing all seem to a lot of us to indicate a "Gayification" of Hardcore/Gonzo Porn. MAYBE if the Skeeter Kerkove's, Jules Jordan's, & RLD/PXP director's start shooting/marketing more 1 on 1 sex the "sheep" directors will follow and this "niche" genre will return to the forefront of Hardcore/Gonzo. Oh what a dream, AC Cream [Link]
spitty Member 730 Posts 12/04	Posted - Dec 31 2004 : 4:16PM Like I said before , there is something for everyone in porn but it's the quality that is dwindling. As much as I hate multiple guy scenes , many seem to like it because they enjoy watching a female being totally manhandled and dominated. I love girl/girl porn but it has really gone to the dogs because many porn makers don't give a shit about their customers. Britney Foster started with such a bang ( disturbed) but her videos have become increasingly boring and mechanical. There is absolutely no passion or interaction between the actresses. It's constant dildo plunging with Britney ordering the girls around. That is totally fucking boring , man !! There is nothing wrong with shoving a dildo into a girls pussy or anus but there has to be some passion or kissing or something resembling interest from one girl towards the other. I am saying all this because "one on one" lesbian scenes are always better than multiple girl scenes. Check out Naudia Nyce and Kimberly Kane in "defiled in style". Even though there is not much kissing , the interaction is incredible between the two. That scene , alone , blows away most of Britney Foster's scenes , not to mention most All girl video scenes. All this to say that I understand Fockwolfe's point. One on One for Lesbian as well as "straight" scenes. If I want DP , I would rather see 2 girls and a guy , where one girl is using a strap. The "ass to mouth" is even more kinky because there are 2 female asses involved. Sorry fellas , I just can't stand 2 men in a scene !! [Link]
Endless Loop Senior Member Tomatometer 1129 Posts 8/04	Posted - Dec 31 2004 : 5:33PM One thing I've learned in this forum, and frankly am still learning, is the extreme diversity of tastes, represented within what has appeared to be, a very bland mainstream. I've always believed it was simply an archaic, vanilla flavored, slothlike group of porn studios, steadfast in their refusal to accept any form of change. Least of all one, that had so many, dependant upon those very subtleties that nonetheless were within it. I think I'm not alone in having long thought my tastes were very close to center, and that all exteraneous acts, were the mere disillusions of a lazy, unmotivated, creatively challenged industry, out of touch with the lurid heartbeats of society's real sexual interests. Instead, I've been continously surprised at how things are so evenly distributed among our likes and dislikes. For every DP to which I've sighed "What? Again?" "These guys are gettin outa hand with this stuff", there were 5 others thinking "Geez, its about time they've tossed me a scrap of DP action, whats it take for these guys to learn, we want more of this stuff!". All the way down to the most inextricable detail, there seems absolutely nothing that appears to be loved nor hated by all, or at least someone willing to stand up to defend its right to exist. Shoes on? Shoes off? Longer foreplay, faster sex? Great cam work!, shitty camwork! White Black, Black White. Like a giant pornographic ecosystem, that distributes needed amounts of sustenance, to each and all, the removal of any obsure scene, such as a homely girl reading a book in a park, thats shown to be a porn mag, who then blows some old man on a bench, would deny some highly deserving soul who's been scanning tirelessly, mountans of dated porn looking for that very title. As long my porn of choice remains available and fresh, (anal creampies and on the endangered list), who am I, to suggest denying others anything less. Here's wishing to all the members of ADT, a truly happy New Years! Endless Loop [Link]
tmd5 Member seika izumi 502 Posts 6/04	Posted - Jan 1 2005 : 1:59AM gheesh, it makes me wonder sometimes if i'm turning gay. First off, I liked watching blowjob movies. You're pretty much sitting there looking at some guy's dick aren't you? Well, not really, but you know what I mean. Then there is cum and cumshots. Now i'm watching two men stick their things up a woman's ass and rub them together for awhile. Please don't ever cum in her at the same time. That's too gross to watch. Now we have women spitting a guy's cum into HIS own mouth. What scares me is I now kind of like watching a woman lick a guys ass. Funny thing is, is that it's only one particular camera angle where I don't actually see his hairy ass. Just so I know what she's doing. First time I saw it I couldn't look at it! Now these days we have two dicks in one woman's mouth. I like that idea and they need more of that. I know people who love the "chicks with dicks" stuff, but not me, no way...someone tried me to watching one, saying the transexual in it was "hot"...but uhh..she's still a guy!! Then I saw a fisting movie where these nasty women (in a good way) stuck their hand up his ass while giving him a blowjob. I didn't like the closeup shots but I liked the idea of how nasty and sick it was, and no I never want a woman do that to me. It was just something new. Then I saw a movie where two women put 3 fists up some trannies ass. I liked that too. It was amusing But nope, i'm not gay and not even close to it. I'm not even Bi-curious or whatever you want to call it. Strange isn't it? The one thing I don't like to see is women doing men with strap-ons. Strange huh? Another thing I hate to admit. I'm not homophobic and don't hate gay people or whatever, but it's hard for me to watch two gay men kissing. No chance ever I could sit and watch a gay porn movie. Give me a lesbian movie anyday though, I love those. [Link]

dauphin Member 6 Posts 12/04	Posted - Jan 1 2005 : 7:24AM RE: what Para13 wrote a few posts up. In a double anal / double blowjob the line between straight and bisexual IS definitely blurred because, yeah, the focus is on the female but a big part of the sensation you're feeling is coming from having your dick rubbing against another dick. Technically, you are having sex with / getting please from both the female and the male -- the definition of bisexual. It's not the same as being gay but it's sure as hell not 100% straight. Guys in films now have no problem with their cocks explictly touching the cum of other guys in a woman's mouth, on her face and tits, in her pussy and ass. As has been said, 100% straight stuff is now only a niche market, not exciting enough apparently. Maybe it's all about societal taboos -- just like the Blacks On Blondes interracial stuff. [Link]
BigMatt Member Sunrise Adams, Queen of Cute. 498 Posts 12/04	Posted - Jan 1 2005 : 8:32PM tmd5: You make some great points, and it is good to see that people realize that some porn may border to bisexual/gay but that it doesn't really matter because everyone defines their own orientation. You like the things you do, and you are straight because that's the way you feel about yourself. Is a woman bi or lesbian if she sometimes enjoy watching two good looking females having sex in a FFM movie? Or a man who likes to see a cock spurting cum on a woman? Or if he just enjoys watching the ejaculation no matter what? I think people should be able to experiment without being labeled, both with the porn they watch and in real life. After all, we can all relate to how sexual stimulation feels for a person of our own sex, and some may enjoy to just watch that without necessarily wanting the whole "package" in real life. [Link]
Mienhagen aka Shameless deactivated again Europe 696 Posts 6/04	Posted - Jan 15 2005 : 1:54PM Endless Loop wrote: For every DP to which I've sighed "What? Again?" "These guys are gettin outa hand with this stuff", there were 5 others thinking "Geez, its about time they've tossed me a scrap of DP action, whats it take for these guys to learn, we want more of this stuff!". Click to expand I agree. Its about 5:1 for more hardcore always recently. But this does not allow the industry to not care about those representing "1". In this way Fockwolves and similar comments are needed the more than ever. I am saying this completeley disagreeing with everything he stated except the HMA-stance. But I gladly take FF-able HMA if I can get more domination, more DP/DAP/TAP, more multiple studs vs one girl etc. [Link]
Mr. Peter Member 423 Posts 11/03	Posted - Jan 17 2005 : 12:45PM Yeah, straight porn disappeared deeply in the stretched cum covered gaping assholes and that's it. [Link]
Para13 Member 12 Posts 1/04	Posted - Jan 17 2005 : 1:37PM You say that like it's a bad thing. I don't see a problem there. But I'd still say it's straight porn since it's not gay porn. DMJ Mr. Peter wrote: Yeah, straight porn disappeared deeply in the stretched cum covered gaping assholes and that's it. Click to expand [Link]
Mr. Peter Member 423 Posts 11/03	Posted - Jan 17 2005 : 1:52PM Dont get me wrong, I kinda like it or dont care :-) Its good as long as its porn, nah? Edited by - Mr. Peter on 1/17/2005 1:52:36 PM [Link]
jollyroger9 Member San Diego,CA 25 Posts 1/05	Posted - Jan 17 2005 : 3:55PM As far as this subject of "straight, bi, gay" line being blurred. Perhaps what is being shown in videos today has more of it left in. But it's always been there. Did you ever go to a swing party in the '60s? 8mm loops to DVD- I love it! [Link]
Flying_Dutchman Member The Netherlands 21 Posts 1/05	Posted - Jan 22 2005 : 4:23PM spitty wrote: Like I said before , there is something for everyone in porn but it's the quality that is dwindling. As much as I hate multiple guy scenes , many seem to like it because they enjoy watching a female being totally manhandled and dominated. I love girl/girl porn but it has really gone to the dogs because many porn makers don't give a shit about their customers. Britney Foster started with such a bang ( disturbed) but her videos have become increasingly boring and mechanical. There is absolutely no passion or interaction between the actresses. It's constant dildo plunging with Britney ordering the girls around. That is totally fucking boring , man !! There is nothing wrong with shoving a dildo into a girls pussy or anus but there has to be some passion or kissing or something resembling interest from one girl towards the other. I am saying all this because "one on one" lesbian scenes are always better than multiple girl scenes. Check out Naudia Nyce and Kimberly Kane in "defiled in style". Even though there is not much kissing , the interaction is incredible between the two. That scene , alone , blows away most of Britney Foster's scenes , not to mention most All girl video scenes. All this to say that I understand Fockwolfe's point. One on One for Lesbian as well as "straight" scenes. If I want DP , I would rather see 2 girls and a guy , where one girl is using a strap. The "ass to mouth" is even more kinky because there are 2 female asses involved. Click to expand I totally agree with spitty. Besides straight porn, I'm a girl/girl porn lover too. Britney Foster's Disturbed was very fun to watch because it had passion and intensity. That is why I was very disappointed with Britney's latest movies which lacked those qualities. Why not give the actresses a few guidelines before the scene and just let 'm go with the flow? You will get better chemistry and a better scene in the process. I'm hoping to see Disturbed #2 soon, but I'm afraid it will be more of the same stuff. The movie can't be all bad because it has a scene with Selena Silver Will be checking out "Defiled in Style" too. thanx for your scene description!, spitty BTW, it also is a Selena Silver "Pick of the Week".... Going back to the subject of this topic: I don't mind watching a b/b/g scene, as long as you don't have to see the same angle all the time. It's the variety of shots, which makes all the difference. A great example is Jules Jordan, IMO he makes all scenes look good. [Link]
spitty Member 730 Posts 12/04	Posted - Jan 22 2005 : 4:35PM Hi Flying_Dutchman, You are very welcome. I like your idea alot , as well. Giving them the guidelines and letting them go sounds good to me. I haven't seen Disturbed 2 , but somebody mentioned that it's in the same style of all her recent stuff. What a bummer !! She has what it takes to make great lesbian porn but , for some reason , she is sticking to this new "mechanical" formula. Apparently , she claims to shoot the videos the way , she believes, a man would shoot the video , or something along those lines. Is this the way a man really sees 2 women having sex ? [Link]
goldenballs Member 343 Posts 7/04	Posted - Jan 23 2005 : 2:43PM I recently watched Internal Cumbustion 2 and spotted something that the gay police on here would have a field day over. I'm sure the whole internal creampie/sloppy seconds thing is completely off limits to many of the gay police anyway, but in one scene featuring 3 guys and one girl (can't remember names) one guy shoots quite a thick load into the girl's pussy, the cum then runs down from her pussy covering her asshole. The next guy (who comments on how thick the cum looks) then inserts his dick in her cum filled pussy and starts thrusting. He really seems like he's trying to get his dick all the way inside her to the point where he's grinding his balls right into her asshole, and thereby covering his balls with the other guy's cum. It really looks like he deliberatly wants to get the other dudes jizz all over his balls. And as he gets closer to cumming, he seems to have trouble jerking himself to climax because his dick is covered with the other guy's cum making it too slippery to grip. How about that then? [Link]

2Big Member 200 Posts 4/03	Posted - Jan 24 2005 : 12:47AM I agree with the original poster: all this gay stuff appearing in straight porn is disgusting. I mean, if you're into other men, there are millions of movies who cater to that. Let's keep straight porn straight: please, no more hairy balls dangling on the screen, guy enjoying each other's nut butter. I find the argument that dp is about "dominating women" particularly funny: I mean, you need another guy to "manhandle" a porn chick? Can't get the job done yourself? 2Big [Link]
Loraine Senior Member 1559 Posts 3/04	Posted - Jan 24 2005 : 1:16AM goldenballs wrote He really seems like he's trying to get his dick all the way inside her to the point where he's grinding his balls right into her asshole, and thereby covering his balls with the other guy's cum. It really looks like he deliberatly wants to get the other dudes jizz all over his balls. And as he gets closer to cumming, he seems to have trouble jerking himself to climax because his dick is covered with the other guy's cum making it too slippery to grip. How about that then? Click to expand Sounds very hot to me. [Link]
Mike Quasar Zero Tolerance Reluctant pornographer 1765 Posts 7/01	Posted - Jan 24 2005 : 1:47AM AC Cream wrote: MAYBE if the Skeeter Kerkove's, Jules Jordan's, & RLD/PXP director's start shooting/marketing more 1 on 1 sex the "sheep" directors will follow and this "niche" genre will return to the forefront of Hardcore/Gonzo. Oh what a dream, AC Cream Click to expand Ninety percent of what I have shot for the past ten years has been one on one. For me, it's the only way that true chemistry can develop. But I suppose I'm just one of the "sheep". Quaze Edited by - Mike Quasar on 1/24/2005 1:46:58 AM [Link]
Loraine Senior Member 1559 Posts 3/04	Posted - Jan 24 2005 : 1:53AM A lamb really... [Link]
Para13 Member 12 Posts 1/04	Posted - Jan 24 2005 : 1:51PM Again I just have to not agree. The things you described might not be what you want to see but it's definately not "gay". Besides if it were straight porn which it is , then it could not be gay. If the guys start going at it independently of the girl, then that is queer. But that doesn't happen in any of the type of porn I watch. If it did, then I certainly wouldn't watch it. Nor would any straight guys. Furthermore the guys who actually perform the action in the group sex scenes or the two on one scenes wouldn't be caught dead making it with other guys. They wouldn't do it period. DMJ "2Big wrote: I agree with the original poster: all this gay stuff appearing in straight porn is disgusting. I mean, if you're into other men,..." [Link]
Assanova Member balls deep 296 Posts 1/04	Posted - Jan 24 2005 : 2:16PM When a cock touches another cock, that's kind of gay no matter how you look at it. Annalingus performed on men, girls sucking guys toes, even lingering shots of the guys face-all of these things I could do without. [Link]
myk Member 367 Posts 10/02	Posted - Jan 24 2005 : 2:31PM On the gayness scale, an analog-digital meter of gayness, with 1 being getting a playboy subscription 'for the articles' and 10 being singing your favorite show-tunes during a break in your ballroom dancing class, I'd have to say that masturbating using another man's semen as lube, in any context, is at least an 8. Myk With regrets to any straight show-tune singing, ballroom dancing, stereotype-rebellers out there Loraine wrote: goldenballs wrote He really seems like he's trying to get his dick all the way inside her to the point where he's grinding his balls right into her asshole, and thereby covering his balls with the other guy's cum. It really looks like he deliberatly wants to get the other dudes jizz all over his balls. And as he gets closer to cumming, he seems to have trouble jerking himself to climax because his dick is covered with the other guy's cum making it too slippery to grip. How about that then? Click to expand Sounds very hot to me. Click to expand [Link]
Pirate Member 14 Posts 1/05	Posted - Jan 24 2005 : 3:19PM Assanova wrote: Annalingus performed on men, girls sucking guys toes, even lingering shots of the guys face-all of these things I could do without. Click to expand I have to agree that visual portrayals of those things don't do much for me. But I wouldn't agree that it's "gay" for a man to like having his anus stimulated by a woman. In a biological sense, there's really no distinction between a man's butt and a woman's butt. So, why should a woman rimming a guy seem "gay"? It's not the fact that a butt is involved. To me, the question is who's doing the stimulating. If it's a woman stimulating a man, with a finger, tongue, or something rubbery, it's just doesn't seem homoerotic (although in an aesthetic sense, I would join those who think there's nothing particularly pleasurable about watching a beautiful woman tonguing another man's hairy butt). [Link]
UCpanther Member 20 Posts 1/05	Posted - Jan 24 2005 : 4:23PM Para13, Some call it gay. Some insist it is straight. Gay and Straight are not the only two categories. In fact, this kind of porn is bisexual. It is bisexual porn for men who would never do anything gay. Nothing wrong with that except that most young guys I know who are homophobic, most of the porn they buy/rent the focus is on dick-rubbing-dick-in-a-tight-hole-or-mouth 'straight' porn. "Furthermore the guys who actually perform the action in the group sex scenes or the 2on1 scenes wouldn't be caught dead making it with other guys. They wouldn't do it period." Don't be so sure. Peter North used to love taking it in the ass in gay porn and many performers have sucked shemale dick. [Link]
pinkincide Member 229 Posts 1/03	Posted - Jan 24 2005 : 6:32PM I think we one-on-one fans need to speak up. I hear a hell of a lot of "Gimmee dp, dap, tp, etc." on the boards. When's the last time you heard "...And then she did a One-on-One!!!" from some ectstatic fanboy. The problem is I still like very hot, nasty, anal sex and I'm afraid producers are really going to turn down the heat and make "couples friendly" stuff if they start hearing requests for one-on-one. To further complicate things, I don't really care if another guy's getting blown while the girl's getting screwed. I just hate that girl-obscuring, crotch-crowding, move when the second guy comes downtown and fills my face with HMA (after 5 seconds of anal...grrr, but I've already beat that horse to death...). So One-on-one is more of an anti-DP safety margin more than a strict preference for me. [Link]
boss_hog Member maryland 266 Posts 3/04	Posted - Jan 24 2005 : 6:57PM 2 dicks should never touch. Neither should a man touch another man's cum!. DP's are cool though. Did that make sense? "Whatever you do DON'T CROSS THE STREAMS!!" -Egon Spengler, Ghostbusters- [Link]
Para13 Member 12 Posts 1/04	Posted - Jan 24 2005 : 8:13PM But if DPs are "cool", then how do you expect two dicks to never touch? They like to avoid it, I'd like to avoid it, but have you ever watched a movie with DP in it? I'm sorry but with the other dick one inch away and everybody moving around having a good time, you're going to tip swords once in a while! If they were going to freak out over that inevitablity, they'd never start into it in the first place. DMJ boss_hog wrote: 2 dicks should never touch. Neither should a man touch another man's cum!. DP's are cool though. Did that make sense? "Whatever you do DON'T CROSS THE STREAMS!!" -Egon Spengler, Ghostbusters- Click to expand [Link]
Loraine Senior Member 1559 Posts 3/04	Posted - Jan 25 2005 : 7:01AM I like well muscled HMA. Or the well muscled, smooth variety too. myk wrote an analog-digital meter of gayness, Click to expand ...intriguing instrumentation you have there myk. [Link]
Assanova Member balls deep 296 Posts 1/04	Posted - Jan 25 2005 : 1:26PM Pirate wrote: Assanova wrote: Annalingus performed on men, girls sucking guys toes, even lingering shots of the guys face-all of these things I could do without. Click to expand I have to agree that visual portrayals of those things don't do much for me. But I wouldn't agree that it's "gay" for a man to like having his anus stimulated by a woman. In a biological sense, there's really no distinction between a man's butt and a woman's butt. So, why should a woman rimming a guy seem "gay"? It's not the fact that a butt is involved. To me, the question is who's doing the stimulating. If it's a woman stimulating a man, with a finger, tongue, or something rubbery, it's just doesn't seem homoerotic (although in an aesthetic sense, I would join those who think there's nothing particularly pleasurable about watching a beautiful woman tonguing another man's hairy butt). Click to expand I agree having those actions performed on you by woman is not gay at all. Why any straight man would want to watch that is beyond me. Then again I could care less about money shots too. Caring about how big the guys load is seems a little bit gay too. I have no problem admitting watching porn probably registers a 2 on Myk's gay meter. I mean, close ups of HMA is bad but close ups of veiny, throbbing boners isn't? [Link]
GODFATHER Member Some say 'Make love, not war'.....I say you can do both, if you budget your time 578 Posts 9/04	Posted - Jan 25 2005 : 1:34PM Well, one of my gripes is the 'extreme' aspect flourishing now in porn. It seems that producers are now pushing the statistical envelope...most gapes...most cumshots...most dicks per penetrated female...most man-goo swallowed in a given scene. It's like they've missed the focal point of the genre itself. I like down-and-dirty sex. Nothing takes the edge off a long day, better than some college girl getting her ass-stretched in a B/G/G threesome. But all-too-often nowadays, producers seem to overemphasize BODY PARTS and FLUIDS rather than the sex itself. Or maybe that's just me. [Link]
arthur Deactivated User 165 Posts 9/04	Posted - Jan 25 2005 : 5:15PM I personally think that there should be male-male touching and other male-male interactions in straight porn movies. Rocco Siffredi has a few movies out that depict it. Good on him for challenging the taboo. [Link]

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Fockwolfe
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104 Posts
9/04

Posted - Dec 29 2004 : 6:56PM

Seems like everytime I want to see a fave babe, she's buried in HMA. Plus, the topics here are increasingly about gallons of guy cum.
For example, I have the real hots for Selena Silver, but every review of hers I read talks about freaking DPs. Hey, Selena, I'd like to see you.
Used to be the emphasis was on the woman, but not anymore.

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PL
Senior Member

God hates us all, you know it's true, God hates this place. - Slayer
1726 Posts
10/03

Posted - Dec 29 2004 : 7:21PM

HMA - Hairy Man Ass??

Anyway, there's plenty of one on one action out there. ZT typically does a good job of keeping that ratio. Plenty of Gonzo/All sex titles out there as well. When I think of Jules Jordan think of strong 1 on 1 scenes. isn't new Sensations typically the same way - I haven't seen their newer stuff though...

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DP Jones
Member

511 Posts
10/03

Posted - Dec 29 2004 : 8:09PM

OK,your logic is inescapable,I love seeing girls get DP'd.
Therefore,I must be homosexual.

DID YOU HEAR THAT ADT?WORLD?
I'M GAY!
I'M GAY!
I'M GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY!!!!

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Renton405
Member

114 Posts
9/04

Posted - Dec 29 2004 : 8:15PM

I applaud the guys that shave all the hair(peter north, brandon iron, stone, etc) off so we wont have to deal with HMA...In my opinion it makes the scene ALOT better...I agree a hairy fat man kinda ruins a scene

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dauphin
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6 Posts
12/04

Posted - Dec 30 2004 : 3:40PM

I think Fockwolfe has a point.

Though I don't think straight porn has disappeared. It has just gotten more bisexual.

Before guys would not have been so willing to rub their dicks up against another guy's dick inside a very tight hole. Before guys would not have been so willing to fuck a pussy using the cum of other men as lubricant.

Maybe the greater visibility of homosexuality in society has blurred the line between straight and bisexual. Things seem more homoerotic; more about celebrating "male prowess" as well as female beauty.

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spitty
Member

730 Posts
12/04

Posted - Dec 30 2004 : 4:20PM

There are so many videos ,these days, dedicated to "one on one" scenes !! Check out the reviews !! There are also many 2 guys/1 girl scenes , and this is what frightens me !!!
I can't understand what the appeal is of watching multiple guys with one girl , but that's just my opinion. Everyone has their preference and that has to be respected.
I am hoping for the trend to go towards 2 girls/1 guy or girl/girl with more creativity , nastiness , and passion. I love the pure filth , even to the point of it getting discusting , but that doesn't mean that there can't be passion and good chemistry along with it.
Keep it intense and filthy , but there has to be some kissing and other stuff too, and I DON'T mean romance or stupid plots with stories.

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anti-pop
Member

36 Posts
12/04

Posted - Dec 30 2004 : 4:31PM

That also spoils the day for me, but the anal crowd is singing the "DPP, DAP, TAP and so on..." song (not only that but they're spending big $$$ on it).

So I guess this is not going away anytime soon...

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DP Jones
Member

511 Posts
10/03

Posted - Dec 30 2004 : 8:09PM

As a recently "outed"lover of DP's,I shant apologize for my lust of this act.To me,it's about the forbidden raunch of a woman letting two guys into her at the same time,and of two guys dominating a woman.

But,I am aware there has been a huge increase in everything but simple one on one sex.A company like Redlight is a good example,churning out titles hoping to cover every niche which may be exploitable.I ain't complaining,but I know there is alot of it out there,and to me,at worst,it's becoming cookie cutter gonzo.It seems with 2 0n 1 sex,alot of gonzo directors are just going through the motions,like"as long as someone is plugging her holes,it's good.Cut!Print!Ship!"

I don't look for one on one sex(I do like Rodney Moore,and some of the Up'n'Cummers,but for obvious reasons I don't think Rodney applies to this thread),but I do appreciate scorching one on one scenes,even no anal!

I haven't even seen this series called Drive Thru(is that the title?),but it sounds promising,less editing,one on one,etc.

Hopefully there is incentive for directors to listen to the straight one on one requests,because they definitely are delivering for us......circus act fans.

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Mienhagen
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Europe
696 Posts
6/04

Posted - Dec 30 2004 : 8:21PM

Honestly, I dont care what other porn fans call me or the acts I like. As a matter of fact I shoot it off fastest while a girl is DPed or DAPed for more than 15 years now. Its just more fun to watch (for me).

...and for others there is really enough 1on1 sex out, IMO. The more as most MULTIPLEon1-titles are clearly marked by title and/or boxcover.

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MASAMUNE
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1452 Posts
12/04

Posted - Dec 30 2004 : 9:16PM

i agree. too much hairy ass man

i like to see more of the girl which is why i like lesbian porn....the hardcore les stuff like lez perversions

i hate having to look at a guys ass or the back of his balls like in those close ups

i like the gallons of guy cum

heres my idea.... we get some hardcore lezzie action, with strapons, buttplugs, and other toys (popsicles!), and then at the end at the critical moment, 6 guys come in and jizz on the girls' faces. i dont even wanna see their faces, or their bodies, just the necessary cocks and the squirting cum. and please dont show them wanking it for more than 10 seconds.

sounds good?

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BigMatt
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Sunrise Adams, Queen of Cute.
498 Posts
12/04

Posted - Dec 30 2004 : 9:34PM

There's more DP, anal, gangbang material now. Lesbian scenes are now completely normal in all flavors of porn but when it comes to gay scenes the industry is as homophobic as ever...

Ironic? Are we so used to lesbian sex that we think of it as something more "normal" than gay sex?

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spitty
Member

730 Posts
12/04

Posted - Dec 30 2004 : 9:35PM

Sounds good to me !!
Would the girls french kiss with all the cum and swap it back and forth alot ?
I am also into girl/girl scenes more than anything else but a threesome is good too, as long as the guy is not too dominant in the scene. let the girls ravage him and each other. He's just there to provide the pole so that the girls get hornier and perform even better towards each other.
They should make a "cumswapping" video , similar to the others but with a different twist. call it "spew for two" with the theme being lesbians having fun with a guy.Naturally , the focus would be on the girls having sex with each other along with the guy just providing the tool.
The japanese have a title called "sperm lesbian" where it's a bukakke , and the women spend most of the video swapping cum and making out.

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cv
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594 Posts
7/03

Posted - Dec 30 2004 : 9:40PM

Fockwolfe,

You are looking for your porn in the wrong places. You should be renting discs from Vivid, VCA, or Digital Playground and other studios that specialize in feature films or "couples" porn.

You should be visiting The Feature Side. Admittedly, much of the porn reviewed here does not fall into your ideals, but as far as I can tell, there are a lot of different people with a lot of different interests/fetishes and lots of people complain.

Of course, reviews here are voluntary submissions from people like you or me. If you see a dearth of reviews for a particular genre of movie, you are more than welcome to contribute your own reviews.

Good luck with your quest.

Edited by - cv on 12/30/2004 9:40:58 PM

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SelenaSilver
Selena Silver

529 Posts
7/03

Posted - Dec 30 2004 : 11:14PM

Fockwolfe...

...Glad you are into me; sorry to dissapoint you with all of the DP scenes. I am going to have to think of way to make it up to you. ;)

I gotta tell you - I actually love the act of a DP. They really feel good. I was doing them in our personal swinging life before I ever shot a scene on camera. Personally, I would rather shoot a DP scene than a one on one scene.

I think a lot of porn is about fantasy; it is about seeing girls do what your girlfriend won't do. At least for a lot of people.

For others who identify with the guy on the screen, I can see how they would prefer a one on one scene (or maybe 2 girls on 1 guy!).

I really have done some good one one one scenes though - I promise!

Here is a list to check out:

Girl/Girl One-on Ones

-Me and Belladonna in Belladonna's "Bellas Perversions 3" (Sineplex)
-Me and Holly Stevens in Britney Foster's "Disturbed 2" (Metro's Fusxion)
-Me and Sophia in Jason D's "Lez Perversions 5" (Sineplex)

Boy/Girl One-on-Ones

-Me and Kris Slater in Guy Capo's "GrudgeFuck" (DVSX)
-Me and Mark Ashley in Axel Braun's "Anal Retentive 2" (Digital Sin)
-Me and Kris Slater in Alex Ladd's "Deep in Cream 5" (DVSX)
-Me and Mr. Pete in Jonni Darkko's "Anal Perversions 3" (Digital Sin)
-Me and Jay in Kat Slater's "Campus Confessions 9" (Hustler)
-Me and Manuel Ferrara in Manuel Ferrara/Steve Holmes "The Pussy is Not Enough 2"
-Me and Chris Charming in Pat Myne's "Lethal Injections" (Metro's Fusxion)
-Me and Joey Ray in Kat Slater's "Young Sluts, Inc. 14" (Hustler)
-Me and Tony Tedeschi in Guy Capo's "Sex, Drugs, & Rock n Roll" (Evolution Erotica)
-Me and JR King in "Ebony and Ivory" (Elegant Angel)
-Me and Brandon Iron in Michael Stefano's "Fresh New Faces" (Platinum X Pictures)

And, of course...

Have you seen my solo "Selena Silver At Home" movie?

Hope the helps give you a place to start enjoying some one-one-one Selena Silver. Check out my Selena Silver movie database for full cast listings for all these movies and exactly what happened in the scene as well as links to plenty of reviews and some trailers.

Selena Silver - SelenaSilver.com

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Kperv
The Cuddler

*struck
(She slipped)
1818 Posts
1/04

Posted - Dec 31 2004 : 7:27AM

Another scene with Selena worth mentioning is her scene with Ariana Jolee and Joey Ray in Butt-a-bang.

It's got the feel of a girl/girl scene, with Joey there to provide a dick as a good quiet fuck toy.

And they're both barefoot. Yay.

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valjean4876
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953 Posts
3/04

Posted - Dec 31 2004 : 8:47AM

It's a miracle!

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TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03

Posted - Dec 31 2004 : 9:27AM

I think Mr. Fockwolfe is confusing porn made for men who like having sex with other men with porn made for men who don't like sex at all.

-T.C.

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spitty
Member

730 Posts
12/04

Posted - Dec 31 2004 : 10:07AM

I think that DP Jones touched on something that gave this fascination with DP a clearer explanation. It seems to be the "domination" aspect that enters into it. The fact that a woman is getting totally manhandled and/or defiled by many men seems to attract alot of attention.

Are most porn watchers into domination of women ? Maybe that's why Britney Foster insists on 2 girls plunging a dildo into another girl without any passion. It's all animalistic domination.

I like raunchy girl/girl and girl/girl/guy scenes alot but I can't get into too much domination. All participants must be fully into each other at all times.
To me . it's all about the women. I want to see the girls , not the guys. There are enough resources to go around for everybody and every taste.
If you want to see lots of men per scene , there is no shortage. same for one on one or lesbian.

The shortage is in the "quality" department !!

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AC Cream
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1066 Posts
5/04

Posted - Dec 31 2004 : 11:26AM

These type of "you should watch features" comments are complete BS! Fuckwolfe has a very good point. He kinda got lost in the "gay talk", but cv & everybody else that dismisses people who make points like this thread in that way should check out some Porn history. Check out late 90's & early 2000's Hardcore/Gonzo(the great stuff that created the huge market that the current circus act directors are shitting on the memory of) and see how the female Performers were the focus of the scenes. Not just some piece of meat that we can see how many "kabobs" can be jammed in her.

Fuckwolfe,

The 1 on 1 female as the focus(the Star) genre is almost non-existent in today's Porn. Sean Michaels is still doing it, but if Interracial isn't your thing Peter North's North Pole series occasionally has these type of scenes. Also Jules Jordan has a scene or 2 in his films usually that you might enjoy. There may be a few others, but they aren't coming to mind right now.

Good Luck Fuckwolfe,

AC Cream

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Skeeter Kerkove
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967 Posts
2/03

Posted - Dec 31 2004 : 12:30PM

As of December 29th, I filmed 367 sex scenes in the year 2004. True enough every single sex scene had anal. However, over 120 of the sex scenes were one on one. One girl and one guy. About 33 percent of what I filmed was one on one.
Shooting one on one sex scenes are of course, the least expensive to shoot. In the san fernando valley, at least 5 days out of the week, there are easily over 60 one on one sex scenes filmed per week. There is alot of one on one being filmed. Alot of the producers, like myself, just did not market it as one one one. My movie Stick it, is all one on one sex. The most successful producers are filming what is truly making them the most money!
Hopefully, some other people will be able to post a bunch of movies on this thread, to inform who is interested, in movies that are all one on one sex. The producers would love for this to really take off well, because they are the least expensive to film. While I was filming my last sex scene for Stick it # 3, I decided to turn it into a wild orgy, 4 girls 3 guys. The scene cost almost 7 thousand dollars. That was scene # 5 for the day.
Remember, all of these group scenes are expensive to shoot.
The Gonzo porn FAN! I know, I am one of them, demands group sex scenes. One on sex scenes is now a niche. There is alot of money to be made there, as long as it is marketed correctly. Good luck on your mission! To possess and view one on one sex! The New Year will bring you many fruits for your labor. Showering down from the heavens, like gifts from God, will be lots of DVD's of one on one sex!
Skeeter Kerkove "King of Sodom" Bridgettes website has over 400 sets of one on one sex that we have filmed. So that is proof, it exists, even from us! Porn producer, director, performer. I am a huge fan of hardcore porn and I love

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Para13
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12 Posts
1/04

Posted - Dec 31 2004 : 2:58PM

I've not read every post here in this thread, but I do have something to say about this one.

I watch porn, and good porn in fact as much as anyone, probably more than average. I like it and it's REALLY REALLY clear and not blurred at all as to what and why. Just because there is more top rate porn out there nowadays which is inclusive of DPs, hard anal, and group sex, which I like, doesn't mean it's bisexual or semi-queer, or flat out gay at all. That's just a load of bunk! Excepting with the girl on girl stuff. But that's Ok. There is as much as difference between night and day as there is between guys fucking other guys and a couple or more guys all interested in the girl and fucking her! It's not homosexual, it's not cloudy and it's not unclear as to the difference or as to the sexual orientation involved.

As for male prowess, well porn has always been about that as much as anything. It takes two parts to make it work doesn't it?

Derek Jolly

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AC Cream
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1066 Posts
5/04

Posted - Dec 31 2004 : 3:54PM

Skeeter Kerkove wrote:
As of December 29th, I filmed 367 sex scenes in the year 2004. True enough every single sex scene had anal. However, over 120 of the sex scenes were one on one. One girl and one guy. About 33 percent of what I filmed was one on one.
Shooting one on one sex scenes are of course, the least expensive to shoot. In the san fernando valley, at least 5 days out of the week, there are easily over 60 one on one sex scenes filmed per week. There is alot of one on one being filmed. Alot of the producers, like myself, just did not market it as one one one. My movie Stick it, is all one on one sex. The most successful producers are filming what is truly making them the most money!
Hopefully, some other people will be able to post a bunch of movies on this thread, to inform who is interested, in movies that are all one on one sex. The producers would love for this to really take off well, because they are the least expensive to film.
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WOW! What a shock this post was. Skeeter Kerkove in favor of 1 on 1 sex making a comeback!?

There will always be 1 on 1 films shot(for the reasons you laid out Skeeter), BUT I think most of the 1 on 1 scenes being shot today aren't in the style Fuckwolfe was referring to. Just because it's 1 on 1 doesn't mean the focus is on the female performer. A lot of the 1 on 1 stuff being shot today is about the guy fucking the female...."look at me Mr. Assclown fuck this nameless chick in the ass". Basically the focus is on what the guy is doing to the female performer. Which kinda comes back to what I think Fulkwolfe was saying that it seems like today's Porn is getting a gay slant to it. More men in a scene than women, multiple cumshots, bigger dicks! bigger dicks! bigger dicks!, & the removal of things that STRAIGHT men are into like passionate kissing, pussy easting, & (females receiving)salad tossing all seem to a lot of us to indicate a "Gayification" of Hardcore/Gonzo Porn.

MAYBE if the Skeeter Kerkove's, Jules Jordan's, & RLD/PXP director's start shooting/marketing more 1 on 1 sex the "sheep" directors will follow and this "niche" genre will return to the forefront of Hardcore/Gonzo.

Oh what a dream,

AC Cream

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spitty
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Posted - Dec 31 2004 : 4:16PM

Like I said before , there is something for everyone in porn but it's the quality that is dwindling. As much as I hate multiple guy scenes , many seem to like it because they enjoy watching a female being totally manhandled and dominated.

I love girl/girl porn but it has really gone to the dogs because many porn makers don't give a shit about their customers. Britney Foster started with such a bang ( disturbed) but her videos have become increasingly boring and mechanical. There is absolutely no passion or interaction between the actresses. It's constant dildo plunging with Britney ordering the girls around. That is totally fucking boring , man !! There is nothing wrong with shoving a dildo into a girls pussy or anus but there has to be some passion or kissing or something resembling interest from one girl towards the other.

I am saying all this because "one on one" lesbian scenes are always better than multiple girl scenes. Check out Naudia Nyce and Kimberly Kane in "defiled in style". Even though there is not much kissing , the interaction is incredible between the two. That scene , alone , blows away most of Britney Foster's scenes , not to mention most All girl video scenes.

All this to say that I understand Fockwolfe's point. One on One for Lesbian as well as "straight" scenes.

If I want DP , I would rather see 2 girls and a guy , where one girl is using a strap. The "ass to mouth" is even more kinky because there are 2 female asses involved.

Sorry fellas , I just can't stand 2 men in a scene !!

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Endless Loop
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Posted - Dec 31 2004 : 5:33PM

One thing I've learned in this forum, and frankly am still learning, is the extreme diversity of tastes, represented within what has appeared to be, a very bland mainstream. I've always believed it was simply an archaic, vanilla flavored, slothlike group of porn studios, steadfast in their refusal to accept any form of change. Least of all one, that had so many, dependant upon those very subtleties that nonetheless were within it.
I think I'm not alone in having long thought my tastes were very close to center, and that all exteraneous acts, were the mere disillusions of a lazy, unmotivated, creatively challenged industry, out of touch with the lurid heartbeats of society's real sexual interests.
Instead, I've been continously surprised at how things are so evenly distributed among our likes and dislikes.
For every DP to which I've sighed "What? Again?"
"These guys are gettin outa hand with this stuff", there were 5 others thinking "Geez, its about time they've tossed me a scrap of DP action, whats it take for these guys to learn, we want more of this stuff!".
All the way down to the most inextricable detail, there seems absolutely nothing that appears to be loved nor hated by all, or at least someone willing to stand up to defend its right to exist.
Shoes on? Shoes off? Longer foreplay, faster sex? Great cam work!, shitty camwork!
White Black, Black White.
Like a giant pornographic ecosystem, that distributes needed amounts of sustenance, to each and all,
the removal of any obsure scene, such as a homely girl reading a book in a park, thats shown to be a porn mag, who then blows some old man on a bench, would deny some highly deserving soul who's been scanning tirelessly, mountans of dated porn looking for that very title.
As long my porn of choice remains available and fresh, (anal creampies and on the endangered list), who am I, to suggest denying others anything less.

Here's wishing to all the members of ADT,
a truly happy New Years!

Endless Loop

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tmd5
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Posted - Jan 1 2005 : 1:59AM

gheesh, it makes me wonder sometimes if i'm turning gay.

First off, I liked watching blowjob movies. You're pretty much sitting there looking at some guy's dick aren't you? Well, not really, but you know what I mean.

Then there is cum and cumshots.

Now i'm watching two men stick their things up a woman's ass and rub them together for awhile. Please don't ever cum in her at the same time. That's too gross to watch.

Now we have women spitting a guy's cum into HIS own mouth.

What scares me is I now kind of like watching a woman lick a guys ass. Funny thing is, is that it's only one particular camera angle where I don't actually see his hairy ass. Just so I know what she's doing. First time I saw it I couldn't look at it!

Now these days we have two dicks in one woman's mouth. I like that idea and they need more of that.

I know people who love the "chicks with dicks" stuff, but not me, no way...someone tried me to watching one, saying the transexual in it was "hot"...but uhh..she's still a guy!!

Then I saw a fisting movie where these nasty women (in a good way) stuck their hand up his ass while giving him a blowjob. I didn't like the closeup shots but I liked the idea of how nasty and sick it was, and no I never want a woman do that to me. It was just something new.

Then I saw a movie where two women put 3 fists up some trannies ass. I liked that too. It was amusing

But nope, i'm not gay and not even close to it. I'm not even Bi-curious or whatever you want to call it. Strange isn't it? The one thing I don't like to see is women doing men with strap-ons. Strange huh?

Another thing I hate to admit. I'm not homophobic and don't hate gay people or whatever, but it's hard for me to watch two gay men kissing. No chance ever I could sit and watch a gay porn movie. Give me a lesbian movie anyday though, I love those.

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dauphin
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Posted - Jan 1 2005 : 7:24AM

RE: what Para13 wrote a few posts up.

In a double anal / double blowjob the line between straight and bisexual IS definitely blurred because, yeah, the focus is on the female but a big part of the sensation you're feeling is coming from having your dick rubbing against another dick. Technically, you are having sex with / getting please from both the female and the male -- the definition of bisexual. It's not the same as being gay but it's sure as hell not 100% straight.

Guys in films now have no problem with their cocks explictly touching the cum of other guys in a woman's mouth, on her face and tits, in her pussy and ass. As has been said, 100% straight stuff is now only a niche market, not exciting enough apparently. Maybe it's all about societal taboos -- just like the Blacks On Blondes interracial stuff.

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BigMatt
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Posted - Jan 1 2005 : 8:32PM

tmd5: You make some great points, and it is good to see that people realize that some porn may border to bisexual/gay but that it doesn't really matter because everyone defines their own orientation. You like the things you do, and you are straight because that's the way you feel about yourself.

Is a woman bi or lesbian if she sometimes enjoy watching two good looking females having sex in a FFM movie? Or a man who likes to see a cock spurting cum on a woman? Or if he just enjoys watching the ejaculation no matter what? I think people should be able to experiment without being labeled, both with the porn they watch and in real life.

After all, we can all relate to how sexual stimulation feels for a person of our own sex, and some may enjoy to just watch that without necessarily wanting the whole "package" in real life.

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Mienhagen
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6/04

Posted - Jan 15 2005 : 1:54PM

I agree. Its about 5:1 for more hardcore always recently. But this does not allow the industry to not care about those representing "1". In this way Fockwolves and similar comments are needed the more than ever.
I am saying this completeley disagreeing with everything he stated except the HMA-stance. But I gladly take FF-able HMA if I can get more domination, more DP/DAP/TAP, more multiple studs vs one girl etc.

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Mr. Peter
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Posted - Jan 17 2005 : 12:45PM

Yeah, straight porn disappeared deeply in the stretched cum covered gaping assholes and that's it.

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Para13
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Posted - Jan 17 2005 : 1:37PM

You say that like it's a bad thing. I don't see a problem there. But I'd still say it's straight porn since it's not gay porn.

DMJ

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Mr. Peter
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Posted - Jan 17 2005 : 1:52PM

Dont get me wrong, I kinda like it or dont care :-) Its good as long as its porn, nah?

Edited by - Mr. Peter on 1/17/2005 1:52:36 PM

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jollyroger9
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1/05

Posted - Jan 17 2005 : 3:55PM

As far as this subject of "straight, bi, gay" line being blurred. Perhaps what is being shown in videos today has more of it left in. But it's always been there. Did you ever go to a swing party in the '60s?

8mm loops to DVD- I love it!

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Flying_Dutchman
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Posted - Jan 22 2005 : 4:23PM

spitty wrote:
Like I said before , there is something for everyone in porn but it's the quality that is dwindling. As much as I hate multiple guy scenes , many seem to like it because they enjoy watching a female being totally manhandled and dominated.
I love girl/girl porn but it has really gone to the dogs because many porn makers don't give a shit about their customers. Britney Foster started with such a bang ( disturbed) but her videos have become increasingly boring and mechanical. There is absolutely no passion or interaction between the actresses. It's constant dildo plunging with Britney ordering the girls around. That is totally fucking boring , man !! There is nothing wrong with shoving a dildo into a girls pussy or anus but there has to be some passion or kissing or something resembling interest from one girl towards the other.
I am saying all this because "one on one" lesbian scenes are always better than multiple girl scenes. Check out Naudia Nyce and Kimberly Kane in "defiled in style". Even though there is not much kissing , the interaction is incredible between the two. That scene , alone , blows away most of Britney Foster's scenes , not to mention most All girl video scenes.
All this to say that I understand Fockwolfe's point. One on One for Lesbian as well as "straight" scenes.
If I want DP , I would rather see 2 girls and a guy , where one girl is using a strap. The "ass to mouth" is even more kinky because there are 2 female asses involved.
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I totally agree with spitty. Besides straight porn, I'm a girl/girl porn lover too. Britney Foster's Disturbed was very fun to watch because it had passion and intensity. That is why I was very disappointed with Britney's latest movies which lacked those qualities. Why not give the actresses a few guidelines before the scene and just let 'm go with the flow? You will get better chemistry and a better scene in the process.

I'm hoping to see Disturbed #2 soon, but I'm afraid it will be more of the same stuff. The movie can't be all bad because it has a scene with Selena Silver

Will be checking out "Defiled in Style" too. thanx for your scene description!, spitty
BTW, it also is a Selena Silver "Pick of the Week"....

Going back to the subject of this topic: I don't mind watching a b/b/g scene, as long as you don't have to see the same angle all the time. It's the variety of shots, which makes all the difference. A great example is Jules Jordan, IMO he makes all scenes look good.

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spitty
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Posted - Jan 22 2005 : 4:35PM

Hi Flying_Dutchman,

You are very welcome. I like your idea alot , as well. Giving them the guidelines and letting them go sounds good to me. I haven't seen Disturbed 2 , but somebody mentioned that it's in the same style of all her recent stuff.
What a bummer !! She has what it takes to make great lesbian porn but , for some reason , she is sticking to this new "mechanical" formula.
Apparently , she claims to shoot the videos the way , she believes, a man would shoot the video , or something along those lines.
Is this the way a man really sees 2 women having sex ?

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goldenballs
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343 Posts
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Posted - Jan 23 2005 : 2:43PM

I recently watched Internal Cumbustion 2 and spotted something that the gay police on here would have a field day over.
I'm sure the whole internal creampie/sloppy seconds thing is completely off limits to many of the gay police anyway, but in one scene featuring 3 guys and one girl (can't remember names) one guy shoots quite a thick load into the girl's pussy, the cum then runs down from her pussy covering her asshole. The next guy (who comments on how thick the cum looks) then inserts his dick in her cum filled pussy and starts thrusting. He really seems like he's trying to get his dick all the way inside her to the point where he's grinding his balls right into her asshole, and thereby covering his balls with the other guy's cum. It really looks like he deliberatly wants to get the other dudes jizz all over his balls. And as he gets closer to cumming, he seems to have trouble jerking himself to climax because his dick is covered with the other guy's cum making it too slippery to grip.

How about that then?

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2Big
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Posted - Jan 24 2005 : 12:47AM

I agree with the original poster: all this gay stuff appearing in straight porn is disgusting. I mean, if you're into other men, there are millions of movies who cater to that. Let's keep straight porn straight: please, no more hairy balls dangling on the screen, guy enjoying each other's nut butter.

I find the argument that dp is about "dominating women" particularly funny: I mean, you need another guy to "manhandle" a porn chick? Can't get the job done yourself?

2Big

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Loraine
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Posted - Jan 24 2005 : 1:16AM

goldenballs wrote

Sounds very hot to me.

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Mike Quasar
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Posted - Jan 24 2005 : 1:47AM

Ninety percent of what I have shot for the past ten years has been one on one. For me, it's the only way that true chemistry can develop.

But I suppose I'm just one of the "sheep".

Quaze

Edited by - Mike Quasar on 1/24/2005 1:46:58 AM

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Loraine
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1559 Posts
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Posted - Jan 24 2005 : 1:53AM

A lamb really...

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Para13
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Posted - Jan 24 2005 : 1:51PM

Again I just have to not agree. The things you described might not be what you want to see but it's definately not "gay". Besides if it were straight porn which it is , then it could not be gay.

If the guys start going at it independently of the girl, then that is queer. But that doesn't happen in any of the type of porn I watch. If it did, then I certainly wouldn't watch it. Nor would any straight guys. Furthermore the guys who actually perform the action in the group sex scenes or the two on one scenes wouldn't be caught dead making it with other guys. They wouldn't do it period.

DMJ

"2Big wrote:
I agree with the original poster: all this gay stuff appearing in straight porn is disgusting. I mean, if you're into other men,..."

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Assanova
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balls deep
296 Posts
1/04

Posted - Jan 24 2005 : 2:16PM

When a cock touches another cock, that's kind of gay no matter how you look at it. Annalingus performed on men, girls sucking guys toes, even lingering shots of the guys face-all of these things I could do without.

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myk
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Posted - Jan 24 2005 : 2:31PM

On the gayness scale, an analog-digital meter of gayness, with 1 being getting a playboy subscription 'for the articles' and 10 being singing your favorite show-tunes during a break in your ballroom dancing class, I'd have to say that masturbating using another man's semen as lube, in any context, is at least an 8.

Myk

With regrets to any straight show-tune singing, ballroom dancing, stereotype-rebellers out there

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Pirate
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14 Posts
1/05

Posted - Jan 24 2005 : 3:19PM

I have to agree that visual portrayals of those things don't do much for me. But I wouldn't agree that it's "gay" for a man to like having his anus stimulated by a woman. In a biological sense, there's really no distinction between a man's butt and a woman's butt. So, why should a woman rimming a guy seem "gay"? It's not the fact that a butt is involved. To me, the question is who's doing the stimulating. If it's a woman stimulating a man, with a finger, tongue, or something rubbery, it's just doesn't seem homoerotic (although in an aesthetic sense, I would join those who think there's nothing particularly pleasurable about watching a beautiful woman tonguing another man's hairy butt).

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UCpanther
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20 Posts
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Posted - Jan 24 2005 : 4:23PM

Para13,
Some call it gay. Some insist it is straight.
Gay and Straight are not the only two categories. In fact, this kind of porn is bisexual.
It is bisexual porn for men who would never do anything gay. Nothing wrong with that except that most young guys I know who are homophobic, most of the porn they buy/rent the focus is on dick-rubbing-dick-in-a-tight-hole-or-mouth 'straight' porn.

"Furthermore the guys who actually perform the action in the group sex scenes or the 2on1 scenes wouldn't be caught dead making it with other guys. They wouldn't do it period."
Don't be so sure. Peter North used to love taking it in the ass in gay porn and many performers have sucked shemale dick.

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pinkincide
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229 Posts
1/03

Posted - Jan 24 2005 : 6:32PM

I think we one-on-one fans need to speak up. I hear a hell of a lot of "Gimmee dp, dap, tp, etc." on the boards. When's the last time you heard "...And then she did a One-on-One!!!" from some ectstatic fanboy.

The problem is I still like very hot, nasty, anal sex and I'm afraid producers are really going to turn down the heat and make "couples friendly" stuff if they start hearing requests for one-on-one.

To further complicate things, I don't really care if another guy's getting blown while the girl's getting screwed. I just hate that girl-obscuring, crotch-crowding, move when the second guy comes downtown and fills my face with HMA (after 5 seconds of anal...grrr, but I've already beat that horse to death...). So One-on-one is more of an anti-DP safety margin more than a strict preference for me.

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boss_hog
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maryland
266 Posts
3/04

Posted - Jan 24 2005 : 6:57PM

2 dicks should never touch. Neither should a man touch another man's cum!. DP's are cool though. Did that make sense?

"Whatever you do DON'T CROSS THE STREAMS!!"
-Egon Spengler, Ghostbusters-

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Para13
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12 Posts
1/04

Posted - Jan 24 2005 : 8:13PM

But if DPs are "cool", then how do you expect two dicks to never touch? They like to avoid it, I'd like to avoid it, but have you ever watched a movie with DP in it? I'm sorry but with the other dick one inch away and everybody moving around having a good time, you're going to tip swords once in a while! If they were going to freak out over that inevitablity, they'd never start into it in the first place.

DMJ

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Loraine
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3/04

Posted - Jan 25 2005 : 7:01AM

I like well muscled HMA. Or the well muscled, smooth variety too.

myk wrote

...intriguing instrumentation you have there myk.

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Assanova
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balls deep
296 Posts
1/04

Posted - Jan 25 2005 : 1:26PM

Pirate wrote:
Assanova wrote:
Annalingus performed on men, girls sucking guys toes, even lingering shots of the guys face-all of these things I could do without.
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I have to agree that visual portrayals of those things don't do much for me. But I wouldn't agree that it's "gay" for a man to like having his anus stimulated by a woman. In a biological sense, there's really no distinction between a man's butt and a woman's butt. So, why should a woman rimming a guy seem "gay"? It's not the fact that a butt is involved. To me, the question is who's doing the stimulating. If it's a woman stimulating a man, with a finger, tongue, or something rubbery, it's just doesn't seem homoerotic (although in an aesthetic sense, I would join those who think there's nothing particularly pleasurable about watching a beautiful woman tonguing another man's hairy butt).
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I agree having those actions performed on you by woman is
not gay at all. Why any straight man would want to watch that is beyond me. Then again I could care less about money shots too. Caring about how big the guys load is seems a little bit gay too. I have no problem admitting watching porn probably registers a 2 on Myk's gay meter. I mean, close ups of HMA is bad but close ups of veiny, throbbing boners isn't?

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GODFATHER
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Some say 'Make love, not war'.....I say you can do both, if you budget your time
578 Posts
9/04

Posted - Jan 25 2005 : 1:34PM

Well, one of my gripes is the 'extreme' aspect flourishing now in porn.
It seems that producers are now pushing the statistical envelope...most gapes...most cumshots...most dicks per penetrated female...most man-goo swallowed in a given scene.
It's like they've missed the focal point of the genre itself.
I like down-and-dirty sex. Nothing takes the edge off a long day, better than some college girl getting her ass-stretched in a B/G/G threesome.
But all-too-often nowadays, producers seem to overemphasize BODY PARTS and FLUIDS rather than the sex itself.

Or maybe that's just me.

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arthur
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9/04

Posted - Jan 25 2005 : 5:15PM

I personally think that there should be male-male touching and other male-male interactions in straight porn movies. Rocco Siffredi has a few movies out that depict it. Good on him for challenging the taboo.

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