Okay, so I'm in the market for a new tv. So I figured I go with a 36" widescreen HDTV compatible. A friend of mine can get me a great deal on a sony. But I've got a couple of questions. Is there such a thing where a tv has built in HDTV signal receiving capability? No digital box needed? Is there a tv that doesn't need the digital box I've heard you need? And when they say a digital box is needed, do they mean the digital box you get from your cable company, or is it a digital box that has nothing to do with your local cable company? Is this what allows yout to receive let's say a football game broadcast in HDTV? Is there a tv out there where I don't have to buy the digital box? Also, I was checking out my cable companies digital box online and I checked out the specs, it's says under "HDTV support" - NO. Does this mean that even if I buy the digital box from my cable company that I still won't be able to get widescreen broadcasts in HDTV? Keep in mind I cannot afford any kind of plasma or LCD tv, it's out of my price range.
Not 36", but close. It appears to have HDTV tuner standard among a host of other features. If it were 42" and 1500 bucks, I'd personally be more interested. I think I'll just wait.
If it has a built-in reciever you don't need a box for OVER THE AIR HDTV signals (via an HDTV antenna). However, if you want to get HDTV through your cable company or satelite company, you need a HDTV converter box from them regardless of whether you have a built-in reciever or not.
You're probably only going to be able to get an OVER THE AIR signal if you live within 20 miles of a major city. So if you're out in the country, a built-in reciver HDTV (which is more expensive than an HDTV-ready one) is kind of pointless.
From your e-mail, it sounds like your cable company isn't offering HDTV yet - which means you won't be able to get cable channels in HDTV no matter what kind of TV you buy. If you live too far away from a major city to pick up the Over The Air signals too, an HDTV is going to be a waste of money for you.
I checked my cable company web site and they do offer HDTV in my area. So I guess that means that if I get a tv with a built in decoder, I don't need the box? If I buy a tv without the built in decoder I need the box. Does it really make a difference which one I get? Will I be able to get more channels in HD and a better reception/picture quality with a box from my cable company? Or will simply having a built in decoder be the same as having a box in terms if amount of channels and quality of picture. Which will be better suited for the future, would I be better off with the built in decoder or not? Also, when watching a non-HD broadcast. I'm assuming I will get bars on the right and left side of my tv if I don't stretch out the picture. When I was at my local audio/video store, I saw a widescreen tv showing a tv show or movie that looked like it was in 1:85. It had the black bars at the top and bottom of the screen which I've seen before when watching dvd's on my regular tube tv. But on the right and left side of the screen there were two vertical GRAY bars. The combination of vertical gray bars and horizontal black black bars made for an extremely strange viewing experience. It looked awful. Do certain makes of widescreen tv's use gray vertical bars and do other makes use black vertical bars? Does it depend on the make (Sony, Toshiba, Panasonic etc) When I saw the vertical gray bars combined with the horizontal black bars, it looked terrible. Just wondering.
OK. There are some recent developments in HD & Cable. So information that was accurate 6 months ago is not necessarily still accurate.
First, digital cable is not necessarily HDTV. HDTV through your cable company will be digital, but not all digital cable is HDTV.
Up until a few months ago, whether your TV had in internal HD tuner or not, you still needed an HD set top box (STB) to get HD from your cable company. However, there is now technology called CableCard. It's a card provided by the cable company that fits into a slot in your TV and will allow your TV to work just like an STB. Here's a link to Cablevision's (the worlds worst cable company) FAQ on CableCard. The information in this FAQ is pretty consistent from cable company to cable company.
There are not many TV's that have CableCard capabilities yet. However, it should soon be a pretty standard feature (like cable-ready TV's became in the 80's).
You will still need to pay a rental fee to the cable company for the card. But it will be less than the rental of the HD STB.
Right now the Sony KD-34XBR960 is probably the best TV currently available with CableCard capability in the size range that you are looking for.
BTW, 34" Widescreen is the HD equivalent of 36" 4:3 TV's. Right now, 34" is the largest widescreen direct view HDTV available.
One last thing about CableCard. The cards are brand (maybe even model) specific. Even if your cable company is rolling out CableCards (which I'm pretty sure that they are required to by law), they may not be able to support your specific TV immediately. When you call, they will ask you what kind of TV you have and then let you know if they can support it or not. If you buy another new TV in the future, you will need to arrange for the cable company to swap out your CableCard for a new one that is compatible with the new TV.
That's because there are retards working at your local A/V store. In order for that to happen, both the source (DVD player or HD STB) had to be setup as if they were feeding a 4:3 TV and the TV was setup as if it were receiving a 4:3 signal. If they were setup properly, there would have been no bars anywhere on the TV.Most give you the option, but default to gray. Gray is better because it has less chance of causing burn in. Having no image on a portion of the screen is just as bad for the TV as having a bright constant image. While the gray bars are more apparant when watching TV in a dark room, they are less likely to cause harm to your TV.
As noted above, there should never be a condition where you should see both letterboxing and windowboxing on your TV at the same time. So you don't have to worry about the source creating the black bars while your TV creates gray bars simultaneously.
My local CBS station has begun putting gray bars on the sides of their non-HD programming on the HD channel for exactly this reason.
Wrong. If you're planning on getting HDTV through your cable company ONLY, don't invest in the build-in decoder, because you'll need to get a box regardless. A build in decoder is only for OVER THE AIR (i.e. FREE) decoding.
About 6 months ago, the information in this post would be correct. However, in September 2004, it is no longer accurate. Read my post above describing how TV's that are equipped with a CableCard slot do not require an external STB to view HDTV through cable.
As described in the FAQ that I pointed to, using the CableCard instead of an external STB will eliminate some of the interactive capabilities of your cable service. But as far as watching both standard and premium HD programming, it is not necessary to get an external STB if your TV has a CableCarc slot and your cable company can currently support your TV with their Cablecard program.
Yes, my TV has a cable card slot too...but if you use these you will not have access to any interactive guides, pay per view or "on demand" channels. But not all cable companies offer these yet, so the original poster should check with his cable comany first.
Yeah, the xbr sony's are really the best out there. Only negative is the heavy weight and overall size (cause of the tube). Even consumer reports rated sony xbr as best tv they've tested.
I checked out my cable companys web site, there is no mention of cable cards. I called them up and asked about it, the woman I talked to had never heard of the cards, but liked the idea of them. She said if more tv's were being made with the card slots, she was sure they'd eventually have them. I figure I should try and get a tv that supports the card now, so in the future I won't have to pay the $15 a month for the HDTV box once my cable company starts issuing the cards. I'm in Canada and looked for this sony online you guys mentioned. Found it on sony's Canadian web site sony.ca and they want $2999 CDN for it. They'll have them in stock mid-September. 3000 + 15% tax is a little steep for me to spend on a tv. I've got a friend who gets good discounts at one of the bigger stores in the city that's been an authorized sony dealer for a very long time. Can probably get me a few hundred off the original price. Still a lot of cash though.
I didn't realize that when I answered. Right now, in the US, HD tuners are being mandated by the the FCC for all new HDTV's over a given size (I think it's 30", but I'm not sure). Part of that mandate is being HD cable-ready. This is where the CableCard comes in. At the same time, the FCC is mandating that the cable companies utilize the CableCard technology (over the objections of the cable companies).
I have no idea if any such mandates exist in Canada. Actually, I know nothing of the status of HD at all in Canada. If there is no government requirement, I would guess that the Canadian cable companies will wait until all of the kinks involving CableCard are ironed out in the US before making the investment.
Over the next few months, my guess is that you will have a hard time finding any HDTV's that don't have the CableCard feature (even in Canada). It wouldn't make financial sense for the electronics companies to make one type of TV for the US and a completely different one for Canada. I'm sure there are some minor differences. But differences that dramatic would surprise me.
Sony tends to be expensive. If you are able to wait a few months, I think you will see a wider range of HDTV's that have CableCard capabilities.
I don't think there is any kind of government mandate as far as the cards are concerned in Canada...yet. Otherwise the cable companies would already have them. I think the cable companies in the US are against the cards because of the pirating factor. If you look at the satellite receivers and the cards they use, a lot of people were programming their owns cards and getting channels for free until they switched to a card with a much higher encryption rate, now it's much more difficult to crack the codes for a direct tv card. It's just as hard to crack one of those now as it is a bank card. The cable companies are probably thinking it'll only be a matter of time before someone figures out how to program their own cable card. In Canada we get the same type of basic HD stuff you guys do, anything that abc, cbs, nbc, fox etc broadcast in HD we can pick up as well. And then there are some specialty channels that have some HD programming like the two sports stations we have (our versions of espn and fox sportsnet). The specialty sports packages like NFL Sunday ticket, NHL centre ice, NBA and MLB also have games broadcast in HD. I'm not familiar with any kind of governmet mandates here though. We get the very same tv's you guys do, shipped here from wherever they are made (China, Japan etc.). We just get them a little later than you do. So I would think that if all hdtv's will be made with the cable card feature, the cable companies will start offering the card, they would have to.
The cable companies are against them for the exact same reason that you want a TV that has one. The cable companies make a lot of money on Set Top Box rentals. If they lose that stream of revenue, they need to find something else to make up for it. I don't believe that any cable companies would voluntarily give up this revenue stream. That's why it had to be a government madate here.
Secondly, unlike STB's, the CableCards are unique to each brand (or model) of TV. As new TV's come out, the cable companies will need to keep up and be able to provide the cards.
The whole "card" concept is an advance over what cable companies used for many years. In the old days, when someone cracked a STB, the cable company was stuck (unless they wanted to spend millions swapping out STB's. The new digital STB's that the cable companies are using utilized cards. This way, when people are able to bypass the cards, they just have to swap the cards, not the entire STB.