Extreme Teen 37

Porn has officially crossed the line between sexual excitement and non-sexual true perversions. What's next? I shudder to think.

I once asked for pron films to be noted "non-anal" for those of us who don't like anal. I never thought I'd be asking for "non-vomit" labels as well. Sad, Sad world.

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You'll remember that Extreme had the "Cocktails" series a few years ago that had girls drinking bowls of vomited material. I think the Director's Cut of these releases also had enema drinking if memory serves correct.

Rob Black and Lizzy Borden are some sick people, IMO.

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Mr.Black really wants to be a porn martyr doesn't he?

Instead of going back to making smoldering smut like he did in the first year of Extreme,he just wants to put the final nail into his own(and perhaps the industry's)coffin.

Has Extreme bothered to put names to the girls on the dvd cover?

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I'm a firm believer in the 1st Amendment so I support Rob Black and Lizzy Borden's decision to produce trash. I would also hope that market demand would help determine the virtue of such a product's worth. Sad to think that there are enough people who purchase this crap to make it worth their while.

I see this as the same as scat. I don't get that either, and find it equally repulsive.

What's really sad is that this is the kind of crap that the right wing, fundamental christian groups point to when they compare porn to devil worship and other negative stigmas.

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I think it was bold, crazy, or just plain sick to put a vomit-eating scene in a mainstream, popular release such as the Extreme Teen series. Usually you would see a scene like this in the BTS segment or as an Easter egg. (i.e., Audrey Hollander's pee drinking segment in a recent Sineplex BTS or Ashley Blue's peeing into the mouth of Julie Night in a recent Girlvert BTS.)

I think it may repulse a lot of viewers who just rented the flick for it's under-age teen theme only.....just joking.

As far as market demand goes there is already a series devoted to vomit lovers so this is probably not a trend for most companies. Just Rob Black giving another "Fuck You" to society.

Still, I guess someone somewhere may find erotism in Heather's dietary program. To each his own.

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The other poster had it right.. this isn't erotic, and it only serves to make (legitimate/tamer) adult video MORE of a target by the nazi squads.

I too believe in the first amendment, BUT crap like this is just too much to bear. It should be marketed for what it is: Extreme Vomit Eating Teen #37.

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I don't know what's wrong with me, but pissing, fisting and even cum-farting is nothing compared to vomiting. If I wanted to see vomiting i'd go and watch a max hardcore movie. I can handle vomiting but don't slurp it up.

It's surprising to know this kind of stuff is just now getting released. Japan has been producing this type of stuff for years.

In Dogma's Confinement Trance and the Compulsive Oral Sex Slave series the girls quite often vomit. More than just a few times, you can even see the nasty stuff covering the floor and nasty vomit/slobber hanging out their mouth.

They now have a series out where the whole point of the blowjob is to make the girl vomit. The entire movie is that.

I've never seen a SCAT film and if I did it would disturb me for days. Really. I try to figure out how people can like that stuff, why that is and how they got into it. I highly doubt out of just nowhere they decided that they liked scat. I think perhaps they get desensitized to stuff they once found sick and disgusting and they need something more to top that. I know that the first time I saw my first REAL Japanese bukkake film I actually felt sick to my stomache. Now I like it. Isn't that sad?

I once got so disgusted at viewing goldenshowers and now I like it. I swear, if I ever get turned on by scat I know I've reached the bottom. Can it get any worse?

Then as a bonus in Japanese scat they not only have pooping but woman barfing on each others heads. Nice, huh?

Anyway, I just doubt anyone could top the nasty stuff they do in Japan. Perhaps since it's all censored they have to come up with other creative stuff. And don't tell me it's all fake. It's not.

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Sadly each of these "on the edge" themes involve the very degrading humiliation of another human being. I'm beginning to think that it's not the barfing or shit eating that turns someone on, but witnessing another person (usually a woman) being utterly and completely humiliated. Sad.

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There is a market for all kind of things.

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Even with "extreme" in the title that doesn't mean it should have puking. Most likely half of the viewers who see the movie probably wouldn't have a clue it has vomiting in it.

Before everyone could figure out how to make a decent bukkake movie they just skipped all that and went straight to vomit eating, can't figure that one out.

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"Extreme," the word, has meant many different things to porn viewers over the years. Before you were born, Deep Throat the movie, and the act of performing deep throat as glorified in the movie, was pushing the envelope... in other words "extreme."

We moved to facial cumshots, to oral cumshots, to swallowing oral cumshots, to face fucking and now swallowing multiple oral cumshots. But at least these things are sexual in nature... in other words "porn."

Filming disgusting bodily functions and people swallowing vomit, excrement, urine and enema water are freak shows, not sex!
The co-mingling of these acts with sexually explicit porn may, in fact, jeopardize all our "rights" to view porn in the privacy of our own homes. The "family values" crowd will exploit every opportunity to deny the rest of us our God-given and Constitutional right to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
I dare say that most juries would find the freak show stuff to be a bit beyond the pail... in other words not within acceptable "community standards."

I, along with most of us here at ADT, support those that choose to produce, "act" in and view freak show niche product. But please, and I can't emphasize this enough, keep it separated from mainstream porn!

Furthermore, why not try some truth in labeling with this type of material. If, as the freak show crowd seem to believe, consumers want this kind of shit, then clearly indicating this on the boxcovers should help people find these pitiful products.

Finally, studios wouldn't dream of releasing mainstream product in the "young teen" lines that would feature bondage, S&M, and guys jerking-off on girl's fingernails...
Why then should scenes of vomit eating be included without proper notice?

Rob, Lizzie and the rest of the assholes at "Extreme" are misguided talentless hacks.

When the average porn customer buys or rents a DVD because of Melissa Lauren's lovely boxcover, rest assured he's thinking pretty girl getting fucked and not secretly looking for girls eating vomit (or even vomiting for that matter).

Keep up the good work and please, pretty please, keep your lunch down and do your post scene hurling in the ladies room where idiotic directors and cameramen won't be filming it

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I totally understand that the majority doesn t wanna see that. It s not for everyone. But hey, stick with companies like Zero Tolerance,...that make good gonzo, but no "freak show", to quote you.

And let me masturbate watching movies from Extreme. Cause i won t get off watching anything softer.

Or maybe is it the fact that a woman says enjoying it, that disturbs you?

Edited by - melissalauren on 11/13/2004 1:49:55 AM

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i think anyone posting here likes watching hot chicks getting fucked. fine. it's sex, and sex is good.

but this is just silly. creampies? it's normal. this? just another way for rob black to say "look how far i'm willing to push the 1st amendment."

stuff like this makes me wonder why i support this industry.

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~ Well behaved women never make history. ~

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Forums like this are great. The vomit eating fetish freaks now have another title to add to their collection and those that are not into it can save a few bucks.

Melissa, save your money and invest wisely as our government run under Bush will be going after the porn industry much stronger than ever. Sadly, the Religious Right is running the United States.

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Now you know. It's at most 20 bucks, if you bought instead of rented. And the whole movie isn't a bust.

Note: creamlover, you are not the only one in this thread to express the sentiment that is in your quote. I just picked yours, but this is a response to all of them. Nothing personal.

Edited by - valjean4876 on 11/13/2004 10:43:45 AM

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1. This release also has Christie Lee in it so fans of hers may want to get this regardless of the Heather Gables scene.

2. For those of you who don't know the Extreme Teen series has been around for years and has always been your standard "young girl in pigtails" genre release. It was never known for the rough stuff or bodily fluid drinking. (Extreme had Slap Happy and Cocktails for that.)

3. The vomit part of Heather's scene is also shown in the opening credits. When I saw it I said, "Naw, that wasn't what I think it was, was it?"

4. For what it's worth, Heather only pukes a little bit. It wasn't a whole dinner, maybe just a light breakfast.

5. Though I'm sure Melissa will tell me to mind my own business, and I'm glad she's doing her thing and making a living and enjoying her life, her ability and desire to "get off" on these types of scenes worries me. I hope she has somebody in her life whom she trusts and who is supportive of this lifestyle and career. (Again, none of my business, just my two cents.)

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Some of their films I admit aren't that great, but they have a lot of gems in the mix for someone who wants something a little different but not too edgy.

If you really evaluate why people don't like them, it's because of the roleplaying and a few gross scenes. But if you compare them on the sickness scale to say Max Hardcore, suddenly they aren't so bad. Or on the roleplaying scale to say...the Perverted Stories lineup, they are ok. In fact they are doing what the Barely Legal and Babysitter series and a few handful of other lineups have been doing for years. Just some of their films have a few ugly chicks in them.

If you want to look at roleplaying getting really crazy and wierd, just look at the Perverted Stories lineup.

Some of the scene titles are:

Perverted Stories #3: The Roswell Penetration
Perverted Stories #19: Bag Lady, The Dummy
Perverted Stories #20: Bloodbath, Valley of the Dolls,
Perverted Stories #21: Dead Fuck, Gingerbread Girl, Box Lunch
Perverted Stories #23: Gorillas In The Ass, Refrigerator Heaven
Perverted Stories #24: Rubber Ducky, Mummy Dearest

What I'm trying to say is, Extreme isn't as bad as people are trying to make them out to be. There is a lot worst out there that's not getting nearly as much attention or complaints which doesn't make sense. Although I think it's all entertainment, if you don't like it don't watch it. But if you do feel the need to complain, people should start with the top not the middle. Because the top will just keep getting edgier and edgier if nobody does anything about that. It's only logical. Honestly, who really gives a shit!!

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P.S. Melissa Lauren is so fucking hot!!!

Your knees were so red in Service Animals 18! They should have gave you some knee pads! I loved watching you crawl across the ground on all fours. Damn you are sexy!

Edited by - rocco on 11/13/2004 4:48:03 PM

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Thanks for the tip on Christie Lee being in this version of Extreme Teen. I'm buying it for sure, now.

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The fact that "a woman says [she enjoys] it" doesn't "disturb" me. Why would it? What in my post would lead you to think that, much less throw it in my face?

As I posted,
"Rob, Lizzie and the rest of the assholes at "Extreme" are misguided talentless hacks."
You responded with,
"Then, count me as an asshole too.
Yes, i like to see a girl getting slapped, gagging on a cock, throwing up and if she eats it after, God bless her."

Well, I don't "count [you] as an asshole."
I love your asshole, but I digress :)

Actually, our positions are so close it's almost painful for me to try to make you see the significant differences.

As you suggested, I avoid "Extreme" because I do know what to expect from these people... but that's not the point.
"Rob, Lizzie and the rest of the assholes at "Extreme" are misguided talentless hacks" because they make poor-quality products, not because they produce materials that don't interest me... but that's not the point.

At one time, I used to enjoy Extreme's Cock Smokers series. Unfortunately, it went downhill to the point of worthless.
Poor-quality includes blowjob movies "cast" with and exploiting barely attractive no name crack whores giving BJs for lunch money in the Extreme warehouse while employess come and go, the phones ring unanswered in the background and loud arguments with girls and their suitcase pimps (probably with Rob over a bounced check) are clearly audible.
I choose not to waste my time or money when the market offers so many superior alternatives... but that's not the point.

The point is this...
Most studios produce lines that cater to a type of product you like to whack-off to... tit lines... BJ lines... anal lines... teen lines... interracial lines... veggie lines... you get the point.
Customers who rent/purchase Deep Throat This because they want a BJ film would – rightly – be pissed if what they got was double-penetration anal creampies.
Customers who rent/purchase White Dicks in Black Chicks are not looking for Asian girls.
Again, you get the point.

Customers have a right to expect a "teen" line – or any other line – to deliver what they represent themselves to be. The typical porn customer is not capable of making the informed, knowledgable decisions about porn that those of us in the Adult DVD Talk community are... and they shouldn't have to be!

Again, if a studio chooses to put Melissa Lauren's lovely picture on a title such as Assault That Ass #4, I have a right to expect content with attractive, nicely made up women having anal sex.
When Melissa Lauren is on the boxcover of Teenage Spermaholics I have a right to expect content with attractive, teen-style girls sucking cocks and swallowing loads of cum.

When a customer rents/purchases Extreme Teen #37 – which features a lovely picture of Heather Gables in barely-legal teen attire with her hair in pigtails clutching a teddy bear and with a pacifier in her mouth – the customer has a reasonable expectation that this is a "teen-genre" film, and not a niche girl-eating-vomit type product.
Nothing on the front or back boxcovers would lead you to suspect anything other than "5 Young Willing Teens Fucking Like Animals."

So, the "point" is that lines should have integrity and deliver what the titles and boxcover photos promise.

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Extreme did "Cocktails" back in the day, and I know if I want to see a beautiful woman like Taylor St. Claire puke into a bucket and then drink it, while getting slapped and forced to gag on cocks while her mascara runs, then Extreme is my vendor of choice. I like some of the crazier scenes, as long as I know it's all consensual -- and it's actually about sex -- but Extreme loses me (or the old Extreme did). This HeATher Gables scene sounds really mild actually, and she actually seems to specialize in doing this sort of thing, it's just bulimia reenactment. Whatever floats your boat. To me, it adds nothing much to my enjoyment of porn, but I guess there are bigger things to freak out about -- for me, anyway. I'm more offended when I turn on the TV and find out another 5 GIs have died in Iraq along with dozens of innocent people, because our asshole president decided to replace his addiction to cocaine and alcohol with a Holy War fix.

That actually makes me want to puke.

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beggars belief it really does.

Anyhow anyone know if Julie Night swallows the piss mentioned in the scene earlier in this thread ?

Thanks

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If it really matters, my guess is that she does.

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Yeah it matters - I don't think we see enough piss swallowing

I think there's a fair chance - saw a clip from Pissmops where Julie drinks some down. I do like that girl - there ain't much she won't do - my konda Porn performer

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You state "... and I can tell you firsthand that "typical" porn consumers have pretty good insights into what they want to see and who best provides it."

I couldn't disagree more!

You're absolutely correct when you say "typical porn consumers have pretty good insights into what they want to see." Damn right... they know exactly what they want.

You're dead wrong when you say "and who best provides it."

The typical porn consumer is heavily influenced by the boxcovers... particularly if they find the boxcover chick appealing.
They are infrequent renters/purchasers...
They don't write reviews...
They pay outrageous bricks-and-mortar stroke shop prices because they need to pay cash and conceal their porn from their SO (remember, I'm saying typical not all!).

Sure, if they stick with it, they will learn what we all here on ADT have learned over many years of getting burned and spending vastly more money, time and effort on porn than most people spend raising their children.

And this is why I say, "The typical porn customer is not capable of making the informed, knowledgable decisions about porn that those of us in the Adult DVD Talk community are... and they shouldn't have to be! "

Let's not make this harder than necessary...
Consumers have the right to rent/purchase what they are interested in, and the studios have an obligation to select boxcover photos and titles that accurately represent what the film is all about... particularly when most porn is shrink-wrapped and the return policy at every stroke shop I've ever been in is "No Returns... No Exceptions... Fuck You"

People shouldn't have to watch their backs and research to the point of becoming "experts" in order to make basic consumer decisions.
The porn industry has a long history of deceiving and ripping-off consumers as you and I both know.
Now, with tools like ADT, we who are knowledgable about porn are able to help one another find what we want and prevent others from being ripped-off.

If we were talking about something really important (like Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction on free TV), instead of porn, the "typical" consumer screams bloody fucking murder when they feel as if their expectations have been violated.

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To me, typical is the guy who visits a rental store that specializes in porn, and visits once a week and grabs a stack of DVDs. The clerks know what he likes (sometimes it's a her), and alerts the renter to the new whatever -- new Rocco, new gang bang movie, new amateur big tit line, whatever -- and they go home happy. The viewer discovers that Evil Angel makes really good product, so they rent a lot of Evil angel. Or they like fat granny gang bangs, or shemales or Puerto Rican street hookers manhandled by TT Boy. (Ewwwww, personally ...)

Anyone of average intelligence can service their needs as a consumer (porn or otherwise) based on repeat experiences of a satisying nature. I didn't need ADT to tell me how to be a better porn consumer. All I needed to know was "John Stagliano" and "Anabolic," for the most part. Then again, I didn't become a steady consumer of porn videos until I was in my mid-30s, and rentals were a viable legal option in Atlanta, Ga. Prior to that, you borrowed bootleg VHS copies from friends.

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