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nietzsche Deactivated User 5470 Posts 8/03	Posted - Nov 18 2003 : 8:30AM ...as discussed here Henri Pachard article @ yesportal.com Our own Canadian Girl gets honorable mention. Anal Sex In Porn by Henri Pachard 11/17/03 Email this Story Print this Story I'm betting that it will be a hit, but not because of its title; American Ass is not that original, even though it's probably perfect for it. And not because of the relatively new distributor, Fusxion (FEW'-shun?) although it's most likely that whoever's running it is probably an experienced player in the game. I'm betting on a guy that's been performing for a few years, but never made any waves on the set. And although I directed him several times, he was never known for any slick acting skills, but always showed up on time to slug it out until he patiently got his dialogue down. I don't think he considers himself as some stunning knockout, but every woman he worked with -- whether she knew him or not -- always came away feeling good about herself and her performance. When he fucks for the camera, I've never seen him degrade or physically abuse any woman. I'm betting on this quiet, confident professional that takes neither headlines nor prisoners. He's Pat Myne. He's the director of this new all-anal slammer that ships tomorrow; and if he shoots his stuff the way he likes to perform, it's most likely to reward its users with simple and consistent ingredients of hot-looking women and the men who truly know how to fuck like warriors. Now I'm not bringing this up because I've always liked Pat and respected his work; he doesn't need me or anyone else to do that. But I'm using this new all-anal line as another example to comment about a recent topic that's stirring up a lot of reactions on Adult DVD Talk: "Why is There so Much Anal Sex in Porn?" As readers probably know by now, I use this site very frequently for things to write about, because so many of its contributors share more passion and know more about this business than most of the pros in the game today. Of course the reactions to this topic of "so much" or "too much" ranges from complete agreement to total disagreement with its author, "Canadian Girl"; it's for this very reason that so many of us take notice; and begin to wonder more just why this it true. There are probably more porn vids that feature anal sex exclusively than ever before; and this trend seems to be growing. Over a year ago, I wrote an article on a similar topic concerning anal sex scenes, and I suggested that its popularity was a result of both the men and women hired to perform in these scenes would stop performing and become more real and honest with each other once the guy's dick got up in her ass. What I was sensing at the time, was that too many performers were trivializing their sex acts on camera; perhaps even wanting to conceal their feelings and not wanting to become intimate around a bunch of people standing around with their clothes on. Intimacy's a real bitch at times because it's a higher definition of trust that can't be faked. But now, fuck, I don't know if this is what compels the user to become so fascinated with watching anal sex in porn. It's probably just as likely that the bigger reason is another thought that the best porn to watch is not what we do, or even want to do, but what we only want to watch. But I think we all have to agree that most people on the planet don't fuck each other up the ass on a regular basis, and it's still a "no-no" in most, if not all cultures. What I'm beginning to sense now, is that there's so much porn, with either some, none or all anal sex, that many users have become so desensitized from it, that it's not giving them that kind of previous rewarding experience that once compelled them to return to it as frequently as before. It's also why I think there's been an increase in the kind of violent, or degrading, or multiple cocks in the ass, stuff that's getting shipped to the stores and found on the Internet. And even this kind of stuff isn't likely to remain all that successful, because in the long run, it too, lacks what truly compels users to return to it; it's meaningless. I think guys like Pat Myne and other directors who used to earn their livings by fucking on camera will sustain both the end users and themselves just by shooting what personally works for them while being easily identified with those end users who identified with their performances. But ultimately, I'm becoming even more convinced that there will only be two kinds of porn that will endure the longest. And the reasons are because there will be very few of them available because both will be too hard to do. One will be the kind that's not only sexually erotic, it will be also be so entertaining that the user will not realize that his viewing limits were celebrated instead of challenged. And I think the other will be the kind that's never shared by its users. The porn that's never confessed to watching is what will compel the viewer to use it over and over again. And that's something we'll never know. Click to expand Regards, The Philosopher™ Edited by - nietzsche on Nov 18 2003 [Link]
Cyberchicken Member 900 Posts 4/02	Posted - Nov 18 2003 : 11:43AM I think anals, facials, and swallowing are popular because most guys can't get their wife or girlfriend to do those things. As to becoming jaded, well maybe a little, but I can still watch a hard R movie like Nudes A Poppin and rub one out, so if the chicks are cute, fresh, and photo friendly, them having on camera sex of any kind is a bonus not a requirement. I'd love the major studios to do an all tease series, nothing but chicks, toys, and baby oil. CC [Link]
Sir Noel Plum Senior Studmuffin 1001 Posts 2/03	Posted - Nov 18 2003 : 7:31PM I think the factor Henri mentions aboout the acting stopping once the anal begins is certainly an important draw and possibly partly explains the fascination and growing interest in double anal. Perhaps in much or most porn the only time you can guarantee you are seeing real emotion is when you are seeing negative ones. If vaginal is so easy you can act your way through it the only real emotion you may show is during anal (and even then for maybe only the first few seconds), rough oral or during a reluctantly accepted cumshot! Perhaps anal is now being described onscreen as so easy - initial anal penetration always used to look a slightly torrid thing, now the girls are so prepared and the editing so slick you wonder if the girl has even noticed her fella has switched hole - that maybe double anal is the new anal in that it is only here the veneer begins to crack and honesty returns to the screen. SNP. Edited by - Sir Noel Plum on 11/18/2003 7:31:49 PM [Link]
cobalt60 Knuckle Dragger 2046 Posts 2/03	Posted - Nov 18 2003 : 7:51PM Cyberchicken wrote: I'd love the major studios to do an all tease series, nothing but chicks, toys, and baby oil. CC Click to expand You, sir, are a visionary! Seriously, there's a lot going on my head about what you just said. What's that they say about the most important sexual organ being the brain? Regardless of how much hardcore I've seen (and now that I've been here a while I know it's not much), it's still my fantasies that really turn the screws down for me. Porn has only helped my active imagination put the pictures together in more photorealistic ways. Sometimes I prefer the hazy focus from my subconscious, though, where the buildup, the tease, I suppose "the hunt" actually takes place, the part that gets the pulse up, the chest pounding with anticipation and excitement, you know what I mean... Porn is really frustrating when you think about it; the ultimate frustration. Sure, here's this beautiful girl, and yes, she has two dicks up her ass, but it's TWO OTHER GUY'S DICKS. How emasculating. (I think this is a different tangent, gotta change gears.) WEEEEEEERRRRPP....ok, yeah, so to substitute for our ability to have the girl on the screen, by Krusty somebody better stick golf ball sized anal beads up her ass so we get the high-five factor. ??? I'm losing it...can't make the point. Must be the lack of lubrication (beer, that is). Be right back. Am I even getting anywhere with this? Should I continue? [Link]
Sir Noel Plum Senior Studmuffin 1001 Posts 2/03	Posted - Nov 18 2003 : 8:04PM Cobalt60 wrote: What's that they say about the most important sexual organ being the brain? Click to expand Alternatively: Never say to a woman with a glass eye 'Yeh babe, I wanna fuck your brains out!' SNP barrel-bottom-scraper-in-chief Edited by - Sir Noel Plum on 11/18/2003 8:06:08 PM [Link]

Lazerus Member 187 Posts 9/03	Posted - Nov 19 2003 : 4:20AM I'm not sure that anal sex produces more "honesty" or unintentional reality in the scenes; or that it ever did. If anything, I would say the opposite: anal, because it is requires more preparation and falls out of the normal practice of sex for some performers, is more likely to appear "staged" and fake in the final product. Whatever "reality" might set in during these scenes is possibly trauma; as SNP said, the only real reactions we get now in some rough gonzo are the negative ones. The rest of it is so mechanical and disembodied to some performers, that the only authenticity in the action comes when they are being slapped, choked, or having their ass torn asunder. In that sense, I think Ron(Henri) is right; the feeling that porno is trivializing sex, making it all mundane no matter how outrageous it should be (some of these girls walk through a gangbang like they're taking their BMW through an automated carwash and wax); the trick is to make it fresh and signify in some small way that sex is a remarkable thing, no matter how simple the act portrayed. I think the films that manage to do that are the ones we notice and remember. [Link]
nietzsche Deactivated User 5470 Posts 8/03	Posted - Nov 19 2003 : 4:29AM Deleted. I found my answer. Edited by - nietzsche on 11/19/2003 4:31:15 AM [Link]
shameless Deactivated User Moscow 1313 Posts 1/03	Posted - Nov 19 2003 : 6:34AM Sir Noel Plum wrote: Perhaps in much or most porn the only time you can guarantee you are seeing real emotion is when you are seeing negative ones. (...) Perhaps anal is now being described onscreen as so easy - initial anal penetration...- that maybe double anal is the new anal in that it is only here the veneer begins to crack and honesty returns to the screen. Click to expand This sure explains a big part of my fascination with DP and DAP. Because DP and especially DAP are the only bits in porn you really normally see a girl in all her honesty. Attacked by 2 dicks it is very difficult still for most actresses to fake something. The best girls are those who truely enjoy DP and DAP - and you can tell the truth quite easily from the screen. Where I completely disagree with SNP, however, is calling this <negative emotion>. Why negative. It's just part of emotion. I know a lot of girls who feel arroused when DP-ed/DAP-ed. Study a few scenes of Sandra Romain for example and tell me where you see <negative emotions>. I wouldnt call these extreeme anal/DAP-emotions <negative> or , but <honest>, <true> instead. just my 2 cents... shameless <Shameless Kiev> - All Anal Agency [Link]
Walter Burns Legendary Quoter IAFD, supporters of beastiality. Just say no. 7564 Posts 11/02	Posted - Nov 19 2003 : 12:58PM cobalt60 wrote: Porn is really frustrating when you think about it; the ultimate frustration. Sure, here's this beautiful girl, and yes, she has two dicks up her ass, but it's TWO OTHER GUY'S DICKS. How emasculating. (I think this is a different tangent, gotta change gears.) Click to expand Well, in a way that is the basic fetishistic relationship we have with all images: they are presenting something "in absentia", they are showing something which isn't there. Maybe that is why porn might well be the ultimate "proof" that the brain might very well be the most important sexual organ. 'Honesty' is overrated and often not very desirable or attractive; believablity is what I am looking for. Something might be very 'honest', but still look 'fake'. And vice versa, something might be fake, but still look believable. The reason for this is simple, and complex at the same time: images are constructions, not (mere) reflections. (Walter, this is a thread about anal sex!!) Oh yes, anal sex! I can take or leave it. If it makes the scene better, I am all for it. If it ruins the scene, by all means, get rid of it. MLyons said: "I just wanted to make sure I wasn't on crack." (Uhm... you weren't sure before?) [Link]
earache New Member 5 Posts 10/03	Posted - Nov 20 2003 : 3:15AM Lazerus wrote: I'm not sure that anal sex produces more "honesty" or unintentional reality in the scenes; or that it ever did. If anything, I would say the opposite: anal, because it is requires more preparation and falls out of the normal practice of sex for some performers, is more likely to appear "staged" and fake in the final product. Whatever "reality" might set in during these scenes is possibly trauma; as SNP said, the only real reactions we get now in some rough gonzo are the negative ones. The rest of it is so mechanical and disembodied to some performers, that the only authenticity in the action comes when they are being slapped, choked, or having their ass torn asunder. Click to expand I agree Anal is the most FAKE thing in porn. It is destroys spontaneity and if you guys think girls are getting off on it... Get real. Many times I have seen otherwise fantasic hot scenes ruined buy Anal where people are really getting into eachother... then the by the numbers approach come in .... where the old farts (the executive producers)... who never watch porn or are that interested in sex... get in on the act.. "ehhh! you gotta get me my anals" . Anal is destroying porn period...and I am sick to fucking death of it. Why are we subjected to this colossal amount of FAKE sex (Anal sex) in Gonzo?!?! Ever considered the number of hot chicks that are scared away from the notion of doing porn altogether because they are scared shitless they will have to be subjected to the agony of the Anal ordeal? I suspect that in todays opening sexual environment that the number of HOT looking girls willing to give porn a shot could be 10 fold if they were not scared that they might be pressured into the fake ordeal of Anal... Add to that, that I can't watch it with any of my girlfriends as it's a turn OFF (making them LESS likely to put out for me) for them to watch it.... They know it hurts... Many girls would love John Leslie or Rocco if it were not for soooooo much boring painful looking anal. John Leslies movies would be the best couple and single strokers DVDS on the market if he went Anal Free.. [Link]

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