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Harry Joystick
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Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 9:16AM
oatmeal
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oatmeal
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Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 12:49PM
you've been licking things you should be haven't you?
jrv
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Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 3:45PM
It uses DLP, which used to have a dodgy reputation. But it may be better now.

It guess they claim this can actually resolve 1920 x 1080 on the display? That's a mighty tall order.

1080p is only 30 fps. There is no 60 fps 1080p, unlike 720p which does have a 60 fps mode. 1080i goes to 60 fps, so it's not clear that 1080i@60fps is in fact worse than 1080p@30fps.

I have a Sony 34" tube HDTV which can decode 1080i though the display can't actually resolve that of course. I still prefer the tube to any other current HDTV I've seen: it's brighter, and huge screens suck by comparison when you don't have 1080i/p source material.

 
oatmeal
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Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 4:15PM
Try a 720p signal (super bowl, masters, daytona 500, world series) on a dlp or lcd projection tv over 50 inches. Unbelievable.

I'd get a set but I haven't found one that has more than one DVI connection. although I'm a little confused on how much resolution can be delivered by component cables.

Bill All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 8:17PM
You can get full resolution with component cables. Cable & Satellite companies have the ability to force newer receivers to downrez some programming through component cables to 480p. However, none have.

Right now, I'm using the DVI input for my upconverting DVD player (it doesn't up convert through component) and I'm using the component connections for my HD Tivo.

For the most part HDMI connections have replaced DVI as the connection of choice for most manufacturers. The connector is smaller and allows for both audio & video to be carried on a single cable. The video portion of HDMI is the same as DVI, so HDMI to DVI is possible with either an adaptor or a cable with DVI on one end and HDMI on the other.

There are some DVI selector boxes available now and many new audio receivers have multiple HDMI inputs.

oatmeal
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Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 10:07PM
up to 1080p?
Sounds like the manufacturers are pushing people to buy receivers that have HDMI. Honestly, who is going to use HDMI to send audio to their tv if they have a perfectly good digital surround receiver?

My Dell 9300 laptop has a DVI connector and I'm heading to see a friend's 720p sony lcd projection widescreen tomorrow. I'm tempted to take it with me and download some of the HD files from the media player link above.

Bill All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 10:17PM
Don't know. There is nothing that sends 1080p to a TV yet. The bandwidth is there. So, technically there is no reason why they couldn't do 1080p via component.
Yes. The Nice thing about HDMI is that people will be able to run a single cable from each video component to the receiver and a single cable from the receiver to the TV.

Also, like DVI, HDMI also "talks" both ways. So my TV can tell my satellite box that it can accept 1080i, but not 720p. Then the Sat receiver knows to convert to 1080i without someone having to program the receiver.

oatmeal
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Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 10:55PM
The only thing that has 1080p that I know of is windows media files. My laptop does 1920 x 1200 so it's capable of displaying 1080p but at 17" there isn't a huge benefit. The microsoft HD advertisements I downloaded looked very clear. The IMAX samples and trailers didn't look as spectacular, it looks like poor mastering.

Hopefully HDMI fullfills the promise. The one bad thing I've heard about it is it will (or help) prevent you from being able to record digital content. Apparently that's the primary reason to get rid of DVI.

Bill All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 11:20PM
No. DVI and HDMI use the same encoding scheme. The only difference is the addition of audio to HDMI and a different connector.
oatmeal
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Posted - Jul 1 2005 : 12:24AM
thanks Bill. That's not that bad then.

There's a 23" Samsung LCD on sale that I may pick up for my bedroom after our discussion. It comes with a free year of digital PVR rental and HD service.

Any suggested DVD players to go with it or wait until BlueRay/HD-DVD?

Lee O
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8/03
Posted - Jul 1 2005 : 3:34AM
Careful on these new 1080p sets boys , an American mate of mine has pointed out to me that they may display 1080p but they won't accept it through the HDMI . Fucking stupid if you ask me . A little like Toshiba's first HD-DVD player which will have 1080p encoded on the discs but will only output at 1080i . Bring on the PS3 , I say .
rolemco
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Posted - Jul 28 2005 : 5:18AM
sony brainman! can't wait!
Posted - Jul 27 2005 : 10:23:51 AM
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