All things being equal, unless the guy worked so much better than the women I had booked, if a guy wanted more for any straight sex act they would be off my set. Of course I'm not a director and availability has something to do with it.
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In the Sex Palace 228 Posts 2/06
Posted - Feb 12 2006 : 4:31AM
Double Pussy or Ass penetrated i supose, because your cock touch another guy cock... but yeah the strap on sure is a candidate but i never saw that in hetero porn...thats kinda gay so...
Taking a strap-on up the ass is considered straight? do a BJ to a trans is considred straight? not to mention bein assfucked by him. And Bisex features are considered Straight either?
If you are a male porn superstar-just showing up. Rocco said in an interview (when he was still performing for other companies) that he gets paid a very large amount to perform.
With very few exceptions, IF porn studios think we are going to continue buying/renting "straight" porn to watch the girls fucking the boys with strap-ons, they are seriously misguided.
I think the VAST majority of "straight" porn consumers want to see the boys fucking the girls. Is this really a concept we now have to defend?
I'M ALL FOR STRAP-ON SCENES! However, it is a niche preference. Make strap-on genre lines to your heart's content. Just be sure to clearly label the product so that consumers have no doubt what they are getting. PLEASE don't waste my porn dollar by inserting girl-fucking-boy-with-strap-on material in mainstream "straight" porn.
I agree except for the fact I don't like strap-on porn so the fact is IF there's a scene like this it must be stated on the cover or in the title such as "cream pie for the straight guy" another thing i don't like to watch , I'm a classical guy in that matter
It's because double anal is unhealthy or at least a little bit dangerous (due to men's internal bacteria)or there's anything else we can't imagine?
For women is even more dangerous because if the actors aren't very skilled they may hurt an actress and even make some bleeding opening a way to actresses own bacteria
I've always considered this equation to answer this question: male+female=straight male+male=gay
Just like a lot of people don't count toys as being the real thing in g/g scenes,I think the same rule should apply to toys in FTM anal scenes too. It's all a matter of stimulation, not sexuality.
Then all transvestit movies are Gay movies , unless proved the contrary a she-male is still a male
it's more than this i think , to me being penetrated is very uncomfortable even when my girl do that with a finger , it doesn't matter if my wood become ticker (my girl says so)it ceases the fun for me (well almost), I accept because of her , she likes it but it's not my favourite thing
your equation is too simple but at least makes something clear.
Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 2/12/2006 2:14:13 PM
"Mope". What a perfectly derived word, to denote the lowest of the low. Likely originating from the latin root mappa or "mop". The putrid sludge, thats rinsed out of mop buckets, behind xxx videoshops, and peepshow parlors.
I presume as a "mope" you're inevitably gonna pan around, and catch some dude jerkin, while gazing at YOUR ass.
...which is probably what the c-note is meant to account for.
I'm quite sure that the word originated from the root mappa is map they have even the same meaning
How this people accept to do this stuff it's a mistery probably someone told them : do you like to shot in a porn movie for 100 bucks? and they : Straight? and then: Yes, here is your contract please sign down there. At the set: ok boys the actor will fuck whereas YOU masturbate and then jerk off on the actress, but beware you must aim well and obviously you ABSOLUTELY MUST cum when I'll order you to do so , right? any question? Ok let's go and remember don't even try to cum before nedeed.
Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 2/12/2006 5:21:38 PM
me to I masterbate so fucking much (off and on) that I would love to take some paper for it
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The Dude Deactivated User
In the Sex Palace 228 Posts 2/06
Posted - Feb 13 2006 : 1:43AM
Well for me DAP or all stuff where something is inserted in the guys ass or his cock touch another cock is GAY, thats how i work. When such thing are in a movie i prefer to know it, sure a minute of DAP won`t stop me from buying a movie but i will fast forward it, i don`t like that. Just like G/G with toyz, for me its not real, and its like a solo scene, the kind of things i don`t enjoy watching. To consider it Straight for me you need a boy and a girl and let them do it, and i would say a girl ``coming`` on a boy face is out of my league so it must say on the cover if its in the movie.
How much time i rented movie to see that the scene with the girl why i rented the movie was a G/G...aaaaaaarg thats what i was saying...so i prefer personally that G/G stuff is in G/G movie only.
As for a Bukkake scene...well im not sure if i could do that, there a risk catching some cum of another guy...yurk, and its a big turnoff to see all these guy doing it naked all over you. In a 4 man gangbang at least you can focus on the girl and she do stuff for you, but a bukkake basically you see guy jerking and masturbating all around for only a 30 sec of fun jerking on the girl
Any act where a guy's wang is touching another guy's wang is G A Y! Remove the girl from the equation, and it's GAY.
So to me, all the double vag/double anal stuff is lame. I thought it was bad when during a normal DP, a guy's balls would slap against the other guy.
How do performer's rationalize that? Like in their head they're saying, "Okay, I'm gonna be rubbing my dick against another guy's dick. I'm just gonna close my eyes and hope for the best."
I remember seeing a Diabolic or Anabolic film where it was a girl and three guys (one guy was Brian Surewood). The guys start in with the double vag, and the camera pans over to the side, and there is Surewood. Arms folded, shaking his head and he looks in the camera and says, "Fags!"
Rocco Siffredi/ Jean Yves Le Castel (DAP with Sabrina Johnson) Sean Michaels / Mark Davis (DVP Chloe) Ron Jeremy/Lots of guys (DAP Tammi Ann , DAP-DVP TP Annabel Chong) Lexington Steele/Mr Marcus (DAP Aurora Snow) Erik Everhard /Jay Ashley (DAP Aurora Snow) Erik Everhard/Jay Ashley/Pat Mayne (TP Aurora Snow)
BTW if in a orgy 20 girl and 2 men you took away the girls then it's gay?
To me, DAPs do have a touch of gayness to them. No matter how much the girl's pained expression may divert attention from the core act of two guy rubbing their dicks against each other, that is what they're doing. To each their own.
But regardless of what the girl may shove up the guy's ass, a scene with one guy and one girl can't really be at all gay IMHO.
I don't find a double anal penetration a gay act. The male perfomers don't have sex with each other, they have anal sex with the same woman at the same time. But it's a very nasty heterosexual sex act which only a few performers are willing to do.
I'll leave it to others on DAP, but I've noticed in a couple of scenes where endless shit-talker Wesley Pipes - seems awefully earger for the act. Less about the girl and more about rubbing up against the other dudes dick...
I think a few of you guys are a bit too hung up or obsessed with gayness or homosexuality. If you don't like an act, don't watch it. I don't see what you're getting out of saying "this is GAY, that's GAY." At most, it's bi. (and I won't deny that there is an element of bisexuality in DAP/DPP/DBJ. Hi arthur!)
Then again, these guys seem to be secure enough in their sexulality that they don't really give a damn what a few people think as they happily screw girls like Aurora Snow and cash their cheques for doing so.
To take it to an extreme, why are you jacking off looking at m/f sex? you're whacking off while there's a hard cock on the screen. Sounds a bit gay to me.
Or when you're wanking yourself, that's a guy's hand on your dick. That's like, totally, the definition of gay, right?
scipio...my words got taken out my mouth too! i blame you! but its true! lol anyways,,,i kinda like watching all those cocks rubbing together....maybe i am GAY?! uh...maybe not :)
Well... those two cocks are rubbing together inside a pussy... so I would guess that the whole thing would be closer to a bisexual act than a gay act. The gay act would be two cocks rubbing inside of a man's ass.
As for the strap on thing. Well, yes, the man is being penetrated, but by a woman. This works for the man since the dildo is hiting his prostate which heightens sexual pleasure, and it also works for him if he likes getting dominated. The whole point of a female to male strap on scene is that its femdom. The female is dominating the male, and the female is a very active and important part of the equation for the male. Without the female it isn't the same.
So I guess any guy who ever got off on that whole finger up the asshole during a blow job thing is gay to? Cause I have to tell you, just because the guy's ass is involved doesn't make him gay. It just matters if the person doing things to the guy's ass is male.
And Trannie videos... well... those are kind of gay, but also boderline bisexual (the mix of female and male).
You also are all basing sexuality on the old catagory system. The modern day psychological view of sexuality is a spectrum. As in, while you can be fully straight and fully gay, a good portion of the population fall into the middle ground, and yet not entirely bisexual. Get with the times guys.
*Oh, and male performers are usually just payed one fee for any act. The only time their pay is raised is if they are in... dun dun dun... GAY PORN! Yep. The only way male talent can get a good deal more money is to either become a major name like Randy Spears or Peter North, or do it with a guy.
Well, we're veering a bit off topic here, RubyRed, but now you're making a broad generalization by saying the point of m/f strap-on stuff is that it's femdom. As a frequent male participant in said act, I must say that we just do it 'cause it's fun. Sometimes there's a bit of a domination aspect, but even then, we don't tend to take that kinda thing too seriously. I like it 'cause it feels good, she looks really pretty doing it, and I don't get leg cramps
But as for the following:
Amen. Shout that from the rooftops.
Back on topic: didn't Lockwood get paid a lot for getting pegged in Devinn's movie? If it's not because of the act, does this mean he's an A-list star now? Discuss.
Actually, if a person goes to a psychologist and seems to express extreme homophobia (which I really haven't seen here. This is porn after all, and some straight guys just don't want to see two dicks rubbing together or whatever), they usually find out that the person has repressed homosexual desires that they are afraid of.
Like I said, not really the case here.
With Kurt Lockwood... well, as far as male talent goes... he is actually pretty A list. He's worked with a ton of different companies, and although is reputation is sometimes less than stellar when it comes to his private life (who knows what of that is true), on camera he has proven himself to be an excellent woodsman. Plus, most people know who he is, and when it comes to couples videos expecially, he is someone that women don't mind watching.
For the strap on... I'm suprised that he got so much. This isn't the first time a girl has fooled around with his ass. In his second scene of Neu Wave Hookers Naomi Zen is back there for most of the scene. If I remember correctly he got rimmed and fingered.
Kurt was paid the rate for a few different reasons. 1. This is his first on camera strap on scene. Paying a high rate for someone's first should be no different male or female. 2.I've hired Kurt before and he's always been professional and provided a good scene. Whether or not that happens on others sets or with other people is not my concern. 3.Another company got word of the scene and decided to outbid me. So I stepped up to the plate to play with the boys. :0) 4. Anal gets paid a higher rate. Period. I'm sure there's negotiating of rates for a girl's first on camera anal. 5.He has a strong gay and straight following which means more pieces sold.
At the end of the day it all comes down to promotion and dollars and cents. That's what this biz lives on.