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Posted - Sep 28 2003 : 7:42AM
I was wondering if one can get infected by the HI Virus when swallowing pre-cum. isn't that kind of the same like sperm?
And can I also get infected if I swallow just a very little bit of sperm or only when I take the whole load?
DenverDon
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Posted - Sep 28 2003 : 9:27AM
If I understand it correctly, it is the exchanging of liquids that poses the danger.

So yes, pre-cum, saliva, etc. would pose a danger.

oreb
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Posted - Sep 28 2003 : 1:38PM
I was under the impression that saliva was not a big threat.
lindi
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Posted - Sep 28 2003 : 2:21PM
Source: Rick Sowadsky, a communicable disease specialist with the Nevada State Health Division AIDS Program

darkangel
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Posted - Sep 29 2003 : 1:40PM
Just a quick note:

HIV uses sticky proteins to attack your T-cells. Saliva contains enzymes with the express purpose of breaking down such proteins and therefore renders the HIV virus "impotent." That is not to say that one could never obtain HIV orally, but the odds are so small it is "virtually impossible."

***However, "when in doubt there is no doubt." Especially where HIV is concerned.***

Other STD's would be a different story.

 
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Posted - Oct 22 2003 : 1:13PM
I don't get it.
For example: The guys in the gay porn movies use condoms during anal sex (I'm sure non of the actors DOES have AIDS or anything, they 're surley been tested before filming).

They only use condoms while doing anal sex. They do this (I'm sure) only because they want to be a good example to the viewers.

But I can also get infected by taking someone's penis in my mouth. I can prevent that the guy cums in my mouth but I could easily swallow some (HIV-) pre cum during the blow job and this could also happen to porn stars (I know...most of them have been tested before).

But what does it help to use condoms during anal sex if you blow someone's cock before? The chance of getting infected is equal.

Kimi Lixx
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Posted - Oct 22 2003 : 2:06PM
Perhaps they are not so much worried about protecting themselves from HIV as they are from other various and sundry bugs that reside in the booty. (yeah, I said booty intentionally)
Also, condoms are used in porn much of the time just so the studio can put forth a consumer friendly "safer sex" image. The performers aren't making the decision or using the condoms to prevent disease at all.
joeblow69
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Posted - Oct 22 2003 : 8:32PM
Actually, it is estimated that up to 50% of gay porn stars currently are HIV+. Most of them are just not "out" about it. There are a few exceptions, like Cole Tucker (who I think retired shortly after announcing his status) and Aiden Shaw, who we've known was HIV+ since he shot Descent. Interestingly enough, it was thought to be so widely known that Aiden was HIV+ that no one bothered to tell one of his co-stars from one of the Addiction movies. Apparently this guy had been living under a rock for the last few years, and had no idea until after they shot his scene.

Even stranger, Hot House is having a contest where a buff porn viewer can win a "date" with Aiden and perform with him in a scene from their new movie, Perfect Fit. Nowhere do they mention that Aiden is +. I guess it just isn't an issue.

In general, I don't think there is any testing that goes on before a gay shoot. Everyone just assumes their partner may be +, and acts accordingly. I did hear rumors, though, that certain big stars (like Billy Herrington) mandates that his co-stars be negative.

My understanding is that unprotected oral sex is considered very low risk. There have been anecdotal cases of people who claim to have gotten HIV through oral sex only, but I don't think there is any documented proof yet. From what I've read, once you've taken the a bare cock in your mouth, you have opened yourself up to risk, and whether or not you swallow any cum doesn't add to that risk. Of course, I'm not a doctor, so don't go out and start swallowing cum because I said I read somewhere that it doesn't increase risk.



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