Homerotic Porn

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DOYLE Member 143 Posts 2/06	Posted - Sep 7 2006 : 12:30AM Porn these days is very homoerotic, atleast Gonzo. It is all about the dick, check out Feeding Frenzy, CUm Glazed and in general #### of guys on girl, all those guys whacking it, its very homerotic, not tha there is anything wrong with that but seriously any thoughts...may I say GGG numerous others show homoerotic shit is the norm these days... [Link]
DanaDeArmond Porn Unicorn TheInternetsGirlfriend.com 2786 Posts 1/06	Posted - Sep 7 2006 : 12:31AM i wish they would show guys making out. or going down on each other. im into bi dudes. a lot of girls are. [Link]
absynth Member absynth makes the heart grow fonder 434 Posts 8/06	Posted - Sep 7 2006 : 12:38AM If you want to be technical, isn't it homoerotic any time two cocks touch each other, are close to touching each other, or one guy comes into contact with anothers cum? (there goes two in the mouth, dp, double anal, double vag, cream pies, etc...) What about one dude kissing a girl after she just sucked on another guy in the scene or eating her after his buddy just pounded her? (or is this just bad editing?) :P Edited by - absynth on 9/7/2006 12:40:56 AM [Link]
DanaDeArmond Porn Unicorn TheInternetsGirlfriend.com 2786 Posts 1/06	Posted - Sep 7 2006 : 12:40AM dude. all of that sounds hot to me. [Link]
bmfan Member 14 Posts 8/06	Posted - Sep 7 2006 : 1:27AM there are plenty of "bi" movies out there, you just have to look in the right place. they usualy wind up lumped in the "gay" category [Link]

The Fly Is Open Member Where in the hell is my grilled cheese? 575 Posts 3/05	Posted - Sep 7 2006 : 1:38AM Even with a woman the likes of Dana DeArmond onlooking, it would take at least two bi-curious girls in the session before I would even think about being comfortable being sexual with another man. [Link]
ma meeshka Iconoclastic Member 3939 Posts 4/06	Posted - Sep 7 2006 : 2:42AM absynth wrote: If you want to be technical, isn't it homoerotic any time two cocks touch each other, are close to touching each other, or one guy comes into contact with anothers cum? (there goes two in the mouth, dp, double anal, double vag, cream pies, etc...) Click to expand If you want to be technical, it's actually homoerotic . Homerotic sounds like a XXX Ikea. Homoeroticism is when two people of the same gender, mainly men, are aroused by one another. In hetero porn, this is generally in the subtext, or rather, the performer's unconscious. Most gonzo porn is phallocentric, and it's got a lot to do with the sexual ambiguity of the people producing the films. They're either in the closet or struggling with dick issues. I couldn't care less about cocks, but I'm told I do. [Link]
pinc_noiz Deactivated User 758 Posts 6/05	Posted - Sep 7 2006 : 3:13AM ma meeshka wrote: Homoeroticism is when two people of the same gender, mainly men, Click to expand please explain sexual ambiguity of the people producing the films. They're either in the closet or struggling with dick issues. Click to expand I'm bi-curious myself. Not anyone mature has ever made a problem of this. Am I "sexual ambiguity"? In the closet or struggling with dick issues? Not that I know. Do girls (acting) homoerotic (think about this, ma meeshka) have penis envy? p_n [Link]
ma meeshka Iconoclastic Member 3939 Posts 4/06	Posted - Sep 7 2006 : 3:40AM ho‧mo‧e‧rot‧i‧cism /ˌhoʊmoʊɪˈrɒtəˌsɪzəm/ [hoh-moh-i-rot-uh-siz-uhm] –noun a tendency to be sexually aroused by a member of the same sex. ho·mo·e·rot·ic adj. 1. Of or concerning homosexual love and desire. 2. Tending to arouse such desire. Click to expand i'm comfortable with my sexuality, and i have no problem with identifying with the arousal of other males. but hetero porn, marketed to hetero men, in theory, should give prominence to female sexuality. if not, it's gay or bi porn. gonzo is quite cock-oriented, and i don't think it's always a conscious decision. it's usually an extension of the film maker's personality. i.e. jules jordan has the set ups to his hetero flicks where he focuses on the girl for a long time. compared to some kind of film where the director has a dialogue with the male talent about how he should pound the girl, virtually ignoring the girl completely. [Link]
pinc_noiz Deactivated User 758 Posts 6/05	Posted - Sep 7 2006 : 4:19AM ma meeshka wrote: ho¡Emo¡Ee¡Erot¡Ei¡Ecism /ˌhoʊmoʊɪˈrɒtəˌsɪzəm/ [hoh-moh-i-rot-uh-siz-uhm] ¡Vnoun a tendency to be sexually aroused by a member of the same sex. ho¡Pmo¡Pe¡Prot¡Pic adj. 1. Of or concerning homosexual love and desire. 2. Tending to arouse such desire. Click to expand Earlier you wrote: "homoeroticism is when two people of the same gender, mainly men,". The last part of this, "mainly men", was the part arising my question. ma meeshka wrote: but hetero porn, marketed to hetero men, in theory, should give prominence to female sexuality. if not, it's gay or bi porn.. Click to expand To me, seeing hetero as "sexually aroused by a member of different sex", hetero marketed movies should give prominence to actors of both genders. Homosexual marketed movies should focus on sex between man-to-man or girl-to-girl. Bi-porn focuses on different sexes interacting same-sex and different-sex. ma meeshka wrote: it's usually an extension of the film maker's personality Click to expand I second that. But makes this the producer "sexual ambiguity" or in the closet / struggling with dick issues? Don't think so IMO. ma meeshka wrote: where the director has a dialogue with the male talent about how he should pound the girl, Click to expand To me this makes the director macho-like, dealing with testosterone and adrenaline levels. No reason to expect "sexual ambiguity" or in the closet / dick issues related behaviour. p_n [Link]
lessthanzero Member 89 Posts 6/06	Posted - Sep 7 2006 : 4:46AM I wouldn't say that this type of gonzo is homoerotic at all. Mosogynistic...sure, Objectifying women...check, Degrading females...yes. It is very Frank TJ Mackey friendly. "Respect the Cock!" Marketed to men who would love women if women loved them back, but women wouldn't give them the time of day, so they want to tear them apart. Or to guys who have been hurt when they have loved women, and are now hardened and calloused. Or men who feel powerless in their own lives, so they seek out porn in wich they can vicariously dominate women, through the poundings given by the male performers. These men are probably wrong and should channel there frustrations throuh counceling or other activities. But calling them closet homosexuals, or subconsciuosly turned on by other men, thats just a cop out. [Link]
ma meeshka Iconoclastic Member 3939 Posts 4/06	Posted - Sep 7 2006 : 4:53AM pinc_noiz wrote: Earlier you wrote: "homoeroticism is when two people of the same gender, mainly men,". The last part of this, "mainly men", was the part arising my question. Click to expand homo means man, but it is often inaccurately used for women, or lesbians. To me, seeing hetero as "sexually aroused by a member of different sex", hetero marketed movies should give prominence to actors of both genders. Click to expand should, but don't always. and i said marketed to hetero men, not couples. like how playboy is marketed mainly--if not entirely--to men. i don't think i've ever seen any kind of gender equality anywhere in the world, let alone in a porn film. But makes this the producer "sexual ambiguity" or in the closet / struggling with dick issues? Don't think so IMO. Click to expand how would you describe someone that likes to shoot cocks in exploitative films for a living? [Link]
pinc_noiz Deactivated User 758 Posts 6/05	Posted - Sep 7 2006 : 4:56AM @ lessthanzero Very good remarks indeed (regrettable for me personally, some are very recognisable). Nearly all of this thread however is seen from a male's perspective. It would be very interesting reading a woman-pov on this. They're watching the same 'hetero marketed' movies, and are probably more male-orientated viewers? p_n Edited by - pinc_noiz on 9/7/2006 4:57:35 AM [Link]
john thomas Deactivated User 1168 Posts 6/06	Posted - Sep 7 2006 : 5:02AM ma meeshka wrote: homo means man, but it is often inaccurately used for women, or lesbians. Click to expand Just wrong. The "homo" in homosexual comes from the Greek where it means "same" (as also in words like 'homogenous' or 'homonym'). So homosexual means being sexually attracted to those who are of the same sex as yourself. Gay men and lesbian women are both equally homosexual. [Link]
ma meeshka Iconoclastic Member 3939 Posts 4/06	Posted - Sep 7 2006 : 5:09AM john thomas wrote: ma meeshka wrote: homo means man, but it is often inaccurately used for women, or lesbians. Click to expand Just wrong. The "homo" in homosexual comes from the Greek where it means "same" (as also in words like 'homogenous' or 'homonym'). So homosexual means being sexually attracted to those who are of the same sex as yourself. Gay men and lesbian women are both equally homosexual. Click to expand you're right, i think i said what i meant wrong. homo as a prefix is generally same, but specifically relating to homosexuality, etc., it is mostly used for men, or man. it's that way in most dictionaries, and this is because of misuse (by people like me ). [Link]

pinc_noiz Deactivated User 758 Posts 6/05	Posted - Sep 7 2006 : 5:30AM ma meeshka wrote: homo means man, but it is often inaccurately used for women, or lesbians. Click to expand I learned otherwise ... should, but don't always. and i said marketed to hetero men, not couples. like how playboy is marketed mainly--if not entirely--to men. i don't think i've ever seen any kind of gender equality anywhere in the world, let alone in a porn film. Click to expand Isn't a hetero couple statisticly most likely hetero-man & hetero-woman? Men are just the biggest consumers, that why it's mainly marketed to hetero men. Only niche products are usualy marketed specific into that niche consumer market. Unfortunately I haven't seen much gender equality neither, no matter where and when. Maybe 'money votes', in porn-land too? I've no problem seeing movies depicting women roughing up men brought to market... But they aren't there, and when 'money votes', this concludes a non-excisting market. how would you describe someone that likes to shoot cocks in exploitative films for a living? Click to expand Director / producer. Doesn't that someone shoot cunts too? p_n [Link]
pinc_noiz Deactivated User 758 Posts 6/05	Posted - Sep 7 2006 : 5:34AM ma meeshka wrote: homo as a prefix is generally same, but specifically relating to homosexuality, etc., it is mostly used for men, or man. it's that way in most dictionaries, and this is because of misuse (by people like me ). Click to expand Not in the dictionary you used. Nowhere I know it's used like that too. Nice thread: thanks. p_n [Link]
ma meeshka Iconoclastic Member 3939 Posts 4/06	Posted - Sep 7 2006 : 8:34AM Well, you query [invalid URL removed]these people, for one, if you have a problem with the current usage of the word homoeroticism. Regardless of your beliefs on the etymology of the word 'homo,' there is a consensus out there that in this instance it pertains to men. Probably due to its colloquial use, or misuse. [Link]
pinc_noiz Deactivated User 758 Posts 6/05	Posted - Sep 7 2006 : 9:44AM Using the link provided, I looked long and hard, but nowhere could I find evidence leading to belief the word 'homo' pertains love / sex between men. But never mind that, the word is probably misused often indeed, it would be nice to have a reaction on Doyle's original statement from a women's pov. p_n [Link]
absynth Member absynth makes the heart grow fonder 434 Posts 8/06	Posted - Sep 7 2006 : 10:38AM Call it what you may, but that doesn't change the fact that it's almost common place in HETERO porn for a guy to tongue down a girl's mouth/pussy/etc after another guy's cock has been in it. I'd imagine that it's pretty hard to keep track of who's doing what to whom in a scene with more than two people. I've just always wondered if it was a matter of editing and things being perceived as occuring out of sequence? (kinda like 80's porn... the actresses shoe is off, oops...now it's back on.) Please don't misconstrue this as being phobic, for I am the furthest from that. I am simply posing this as a question. [Link]
LamontCranston Member 71 Posts 7/06	Posted - Sep 7 2006 : 10:42AM I agree that porn presents many images that are homoerotic or autoerotic. Porn as a whole has more imagines of some guy with his hand on his dick the any other image. he’s whacking to get it up, holding on to it while fucking or being sucked, he’s whacking while waiting, he’s whacking to the cum shot, he’s whacking. I’m not bothered by men’s body parts touching incidental to the scene, what bothers me is the producers insistence on providing an un obstructed view of the entire length of the dick at all times, this causes the talent to assume what has become standard porno positions, where participant are only touching at the genitals. I think the producers after making X number of movies might lose a bit of fine discrimination re: homoerotism, they want to get this one finished and in the can, move on to the next project. I prefer amateur productions where the producer hasn’t perfected his “vision”. [Link]
pinc_noiz Deactivated User 758 Posts 6/05	Posted - Sep 7 2006 : 12:07PM absynth wrote: for a guy to tongue down a girl's mouth/pussy/etc after another guy's cock has been in it Click to expand This morning I did my groceries in a shop that was robbed last night. Am I an accomplice now? p_n [Link]
pinc_noiz Deactivated User 758 Posts 6/05	Posted - Sep 7 2006 : 12:18PM LamontCranston wrote: some guy with his hand on his dick the any other image. he’s whacking to get it up, holding on to it while fucking or being sucked, he’s whacking while waiting, he’s whacking to the cum shot, he’s whacking. Click to expand How homoerotic (autoerotic??) can you go ... LamontCranston wrote: I’m not bothered by men’s body parts touching incidental to the scene, what bothers me is the producers insistence on providing an un obstructed view of the entire length of the dick at all times, this causes the talent to assume what has become standard porno positions, where participant are only touching at the genitals. Click to expand This is just called 'sex', in whatever state you're in. Don't like it: don't watch, or even have sex ... LamontCranston wrote: I prefer amateur productions where the producer hasn’t perfected his “vision”. Click to expand No "participant touching the genitals" here? No whacking to get it up, holding on to it while fucking or being sucked, ... You don't even like sex, don't you? p_n [Link]
vodka tonic coolest cucumber who 1243 Posts 11/02	Posted - Sep 7 2006 : 12:34PM I'm gay and I can attest that there's nothing homo-erotic in gonzo porn. There's no emphasis on the male body, a lot of performers are butt-ugly and the framework is equally divided b/w endless close-ups and shots of the girls' face/jiggling boobs. The idea that dicks in themselves are homo-erotic is a straight idea. [Link]
pinc_noiz Deactivated User 758 Posts 6/05	Posted - Sep 7 2006 : 1:28PM pinc_noiz wrote: it would be nice to have a reaction on Doyle's original statement from a women's pov. Click to expand Nice to have a reaction on this topic seen from a different perspective. Not so much seen from a women's pov , but no less welcome. I completely agree with it. p_n [Link]

DanaDeArmond Porn Unicorn TheInternetsGirlfriend.com 2786 Posts 1/06	Posted - Sep 7 2006 : 1:30PM boys kissing and doing "stuff" is hot. everyone else is just splitting hairs. [Link]
LamontCranston Member 71 Posts 7/06	Posted - Sep 7 2006 : 2:57PM No "participant touching the genitals" here? No whacking to get it up, holding on to it while fucking or being sucked, ... You don't even like sex, don't you? I love sex my friend, I waiting to see it in the movies I purchase. Still waiting. My point is that Porn sex has the same relation to sex as the WWF has to a street fight. The homoerotic aspect of straight porn has more to do with the producers churning them out in the most efficient manner possible than with sexual orientation the actors. [Link]
pinc_noiz Deactivated User 758 Posts 6/05	Posted - Sep 7 2006 : 3:02PM LamontCranston wrote: The homoerotic aspect of straight porn has more to do with the producers churning them out in the most efficient manner possible than with sexual orientation the actors. Click to expand Could you please explain to me what it is with these producers, they prefer to make 'homoerotic' movies? p_n [Link]
absynth Member absynth makes the heart grow fonder 434 Posts 8/06	Posted - Sep 7 2006 : 3:03PM BRING BACK 80's FLUFFERS WITH LEG WARMERS AND BIG HAIR!!! sorry, couldn't resist. [Link]
CarbonT Member 404 Posts 8/05	Posted - Sep 7 2006 : 3:35PM vodka tonic wrote: I'm gay and I can attest that there's nothing homo-erotic in gonzo porn. There's no emphasis on the male body, a lot of performers are butt-ugly and the framework is equally divided b/w endless close-ups and shots of the girls' face/jiggling boobs. The idea that dicks in themselves are homo-erotic is a straight idea. Click to expand I would say that this is pretty much the definitive statement on this topic. Seeing a dick or many dicks, however closely, in the process of penetrating female orifices isn't homoerotic. [Link]
BadDoggy Member 17 Posts 6/06	Posted - Sep 7 2006 : 5:31PM I like gangbang movies, and I don't think it's because I'm subconsciously attracted to men. I just like watching girls slut it up. By your definition of homoerotic, the only type of a porn a 100% straight guy should like is lesbian porn. [Link]
LamontCranston Member 71 Posts 7/06	Posted - Sep 7 2006 : 5:33PM pinc_noiz wrote: LamontCranston wrote: The homoerotic aspect of straight porn has more to do with the producers churning them out in the most efficient manner possible than with sexual orientation the actors. Click to expand Could you please explain to me what it is with these producers, they prefer to make 'homoerotic' movies? p_n Click to expand I don't think they prefer homoerotic porn although I couldn't say for sure, but I think one might become desensitised and not put so fine a distinction on what might be seen as "homoerotic" or in some cases lose sight of what is erotic. The guy is immersed in the culture. Who know how a guy who's made hundreds of adult movies might be getting off in his private life, I tend to think he's not doing what frustrated porn hounds like me are doing, watching porn [Link]
pinc_noiz Deactivated User 758 Posts 6/05	Posted - Sep 8 2006 : 3:24AM I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, but will give my first reaction: LamontCranston wrote: one might become desensitised and not put so fine a distinction on what might be seen as "homoerotic" Click to expand Is there a need to distinguish between different kinds of sex (homo/hetero/auto-erotic and so on)? Personally I like (to watch) sex, and are completely indifferent about the 'labels'/names you could give it. LamontCranston wrote: Who know how a guy who's made hundreds of adult movies might be getting off in his private life, I tend to think he's not doing what frustrated porn hounds like me are doing, watching porn Click to expand Are you interested in knowing how producers/directors make sex in their private time? Not me. Hopefully, on a personal level, he/she will not become a 'frustrated porn hound' like you. Which saddens me knowing p_n [Link]
scipio Senior Member 1901 Posts 2/00	Posted - Sep 8 2006 : 3:54AM ma meeshka wrote: gonzo is quite cock-oriented, and i don't think it's always a conscious decision. it's usually an extension of the film maker's personality. <snip> some kind of film where the director has a dialogue with the male talent about how he should pound the girl, virtually ignoring the girl completely. Click to expand I think there's a much more pragmatic couple of reasons for this - The key male performers of a gonzo director often appear to be their mates/buddies after awhile. Therefore: 1) You have that frat-boy mentality going "hey guys, let's go fuck some bitches." Or for others, and to put it more nicely: 2) As the girls are interchangable and generally transitory to a director or series, they don't have the same social importance or connection to the directors/producers that the same five guys they always work with do. You might shoot/fuck Nautica Thorn four times over a couple of months, but you're working with your crew and regular woodsmen day after day. [Link]
Texan Member 167 Posts 3/04	Posted - Sep 8 2006 : 7:58AM As a straight male, watching a bunch of cocks being jerked off is not a turn on. BUT watching a bunch of cocks being jerked off near a woman's face is a major turn on. Especially if she's hot for the cocks and the impending cum. [Link]

ma meeshka Iconoclastic Member 3939 Posts 4/06	Posted - Sep 8 2006 : 9:36AM scipio wrote: I think there's a much more pragmatic couple of reasons for this - The key male performers of a gonzo director often appear to be their mates/buddies after awhile. Therefore: 1) You have that frat-boy mentality going "hey guys, let's go fuck some bitches." Or for others, and to put it more nicely: 2) As the girls are interchangable and generally transitory to a director or series, they don't have the same social importance or connection to the directors/producers that the same five guys they always work with do. You might shoot/fuck Nautica Thorn four times over a couple of months, but you're working with your crew and regular woodsmen day after day. Click to expand i think we all know they're several drinks away from 'letting it all out' [Link]
LamontCranston Member 71 Posts 7/06	Posted - Sep 8 2006 : 10:07AM Is there a need to distinguish between different kinds of sex (homo/hetero/auto-erotic and so on)? Yes [Link]
pinc_noiz Deactivated User 758 Posts 6/05	Posted - Sep 8 2006 : 10:43AM LamontCranston wrote: Is there a need to distinguish between different kinds of sex (homo/hetero/auto-erotic and so on)? Yes Click to expand Oh, I could ask why ... , but all I do is full-heartily disagree. We're just of different opinions. p_n [Link]
scipio Senior Member 1901 Posts 2/00	Posted - Sep 8 2006 : 10:44AM Different Strokes for Different Folks. [Link]
scipio Senior Member 1901 Posts 2/00	Posted - Sep 8 2006 : 10:46AM [invalid URL removed]Homerotica [Link]
ma meeshka Iconoclastic Member 3939 Posts 4/06	Posted - Sep 8 2006 : 11:12AM we just need to weed out the faggots for the lynchmobs. unite, brothers! [Link]
pinc_noiz Deactivated User 758 Posts 6/05	Posted - Sep 8 2006 : 11:13AM scipio wrote: [invalid URL removed]Homerotica Click to expand You could post this [invalid URL removed]in this thread also. Gets me thinking ... p_n [Link]
Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14594 Posts 3/02	Posted - Sep 8 2006 : 12:29PM ma meeshka wrote: we just need to weed out the faggots for the lynchmobs. Click to expand Wood piles went out when electricity came in. [Link]