I also think that we can't give religion a pass here either, as most religions (and certainly most in North America) are just downright anti-sex excepting for the narrow allowable sex for procreation within a M/F marriage. You also can't ignore the movement of white Christian Evangelicals in the US who are vehemently anti-sex, anti-women and anti-modern. An example of the perversity of this movement is how they treat child sexual abuse. If a father molests a 12-year-old, then the blame among those churches lies with the girl and her mother. The girl was probably "coming on" to her father and tempting him, and the mother/wife wasn't putting out often enough to keep the father/husband sated. I mention this movement because it is increasingly powerful and has an outsized influence on American society.

(I'll also admit to mentioning the American white Christian Evangelicals - and we have some who espouse those ideas in Canada too, but they are fewer and hold limited power - because they make me seethe with rage. I won't tolerate their movement to strip humanity from people who need our support. I'll also say that there is nothing Christian or evangelical about these people. That may be how they label themselves, but neither label is accurate.)

Last comment, and one that is more on the topic. I recall watching a documentary years ago that may have been titled "After Porn Ends," or something along those lines.

(I just checked and there is a YouTube channel with that name but I haven't checked it out:

https://www.youtube.com/@AFTERPORNENDSDOC/videos )

If I didn't get the name of the documentary right, I still recall the interviews with Randy West. For younger members, Randy was a prolific performer, producer and director active from the late 70s and through to the early 2000s. (I still watch his scenes. I don't have many videos from his series "Up and Cummers," but he performed with and shot a lot of fresh new talent at the beginning of their careers.) What I remember most about the interviews with Randy is his sadness. I don't remember if this was stated or just implied, but the message came through that Randy felt that being a porn star limited his appeal to women outside the industry (especially as he got older) and he missed having a "normal" life with a wife he could grow old with. I recall that when he was interviewed he was single and not happy about that.

I guess I've ranted and rambled a bit and I hope this doesn't derail your thread.

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I also remember reading an article about a well known male star earlier this century who had left the industry and was working in the dental field and he lost his job when a female patient recognized him and talked to him as a fan would. For the life of me I can't think of his name.

I think you hear less about male porn stars because the focus is on the women and not them for the vast majority of viewers and as a group, male stars are not nearly as well known as the female stars especially prior to the internet.

There are always exceptions but for the most part, general society is not very accepting of performers, especially those wanting a 'normal' or 'traditional' lifestyle.

To me, I think it's due to putting it on film which lasts forever and all can see at anytime. A male or female, can have done many things prior to meeting someone and you can have the attitude "what I did before I met you doesn't matter" but that's hard to do with someone who did porn because you can see it at any time. As I mentioned in another thread, I had a family member who did porn. Trust me, hearing what they used to do is not nearly as impactful as being able to see it. Folks just can't reconcile that sweet Suzi or gentleman Johnny are the same person when they see what they do sexually (even though those judging usually do the same thing but it's behind closed doors and not for the world to see).

Edited by - gjh3102 on 7/26/2025 9:13:16 AM

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