Probably because one needs to have a password and to have entered through another page, to have access to that one.

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Olly Vic Sizemore aka "Seeu Saht"

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So I can't help you out on that one.

New Jersey's very own Vicious Tongue strikes again...

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Gator

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Cheers!

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Some small talk in bed may be:
-I love the way your ass looks (as your getting her doggy)

-Your pussy is so sweet (when your down on her)

-Your pussy is so wet

-I love the way you suck my cock (if you don’t, tell her how you like it, guide her (this is only to your benefit, but if she knows how to please you a little, she’ll probably want to please you more))

-Can you sit on my face and come on it

-Tell me how to eat your pussy till you come (Once you’ve become adept at this, Tell her you want her to sit on your face and come on it)

-Get nasty with her, after you’ve fucked her good go down on her again.

Encourage her to be nasty with you, and talk is the best method other than doing.

If you’re honest with her and talk about your sexual desires she’ll become more responsive.

I am a firm believer in pleasing my woman, the better she gets off the better it’ll be for me.

If you get better and better at pleasing her, the more responsive she’ll be at trying to please you.

I have been very fortunate in finding the woman I have. I can say anything no matter how rude, or vulgar it sounds, she’s right there with me. She knows I’m just enjoying her, and she me.

Some girls can be very difficult when it comes to releasing their inhibitions. (I don’t know about men, just covering my ass for you ladies.) I had a girlfriend for about a year before I felt it was ok to tell her I wanted get her in the butt. 3 ½ years later, she was wanting me to stick her. So patience pays. How patient are you? Do you love her? If so, she’s worth the wait. If not, you might want to start looking elsewhere.

The only real advice I have is don’t kill yourself trying to get things like this done if you’re not in love, it’d be much easier to find the right woman.

I don’t know what else to tell you unless you give up more info about your relationship, and how far you guys go with your talk already.

Good luck and great sex,

DD

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Sorry to repeat myself but - start in the shower - a facial is no big deal in the shower. Ask for a bj in the shower, then you're already in position. It seems more "pornlike" if you're having sex, you pull out, get in position and shoot a load on her face.

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Probably, Meridian. But since you asked....

I usually avoid these "How do I get someone to do something they don't want to do?" types of questions because I find them kind of creepy, frankly.

I have thought about Pornboy's pressing problem however, as well as a solution regarding his wish to not appear 'too perverted'.

I know this may sound a little wacky, and it certainly lacks the underhanded tactics usually involved, but why not try...the truth?
Just tell her - this is normal in porn, in fact, it's how EVERY SINGLE sex scene ends, and the females appear to love it. So it's only natural you want to do it too! She might come back with "Ewwwww!!!" or "That's degrading" or "WTF is attractive about my face covered in splooge?"
It's important to remember though, that there is a big difference between porn fantasy and reality, and that porn actresses are PAID to do this. To expect your girlfriend to WANT to is crazy, and frankly, a little cheap. So if you respect her as you say, at least offer to pay her the going rate, for Christssakes.

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Seriously, it never occurred to me that there was anyone in the whole world who did this in real life but apparently there are. You learn something every day.

I don’t have any problem with couples who do enjoy doing this but just can’t see what’s in it for the ‘recipients’. At all. It might be good fun for the ‘depositor’ for some reason but I can’t see that it’s so different to leaving it on the floor and then rubbing her face in it. Same end result. It does seem just too degrading to do anything for me.

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quote "Seriously, it never occurred to me that there was anyone in the whole world who did this in real life but apparently there are. You learn something every day."

I think this is another case of "porn trends" that people see, and might actually think that it would be fun to do, or that other people are doing it, when no one I know personally is even remotely interested in something like this, and that includes men. But then, most of the men I know don't watch a lot of porn. Sometimes, sure, but not often. Mainly, because of stuff like this, along with all the other nausea inducing acts that have become so prevelant.

I would like to start a movement perhaps you'd be interested in:

SPUNK

S top P orn's U nattractive N asty K inks

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I’d own maybe 25 videos, many chosen just from the covers. Most of the time you just can’t tell what’s on there, ('adult movies are like a box of chocolates.') and the idea of a girl I’ve recently met choosing one at random and both of us watching it is terrifying. ‘You actually like this sort of stuff !!??’ she’d ask, and I could feel myself going from prince to frog in her eyes . ‘Well, no. Not really, but there’s no avoiding it.’, sounds pretty feeble. Anyone else ever have that nightmare that they die and their parents have to come around and clear out their stuff? Bill Hicks did a great routine on that on ‘Relentless’, possibly the greatest stand up album ever.

To my mind at least there are two broad types of X rated movies out there, and the ‘other’ type are those that I’d be embarrased to admit owning even to friends that know me really well. I was reading through reviews on IAFD once and there are a few guys on there who seem to review nearly every second movie ever released. One of them wrote something along the lines of, ‘<some actress> is so good looking I even enjoyed watching her just fucking.’!!! One of the scariest things I’ve ever read. Is that how people end up after they’ve watched a certain amount of porn? Am I going to one day be sixty years old and so jaded that only things that will register at all will require drugs, electrodes and extensive use of the ‘Anal Intruder’ (as seen – all too briefly for some - in the movie Top Secret). Maybe, maybe.

Who knows, but for the time being all I’m after my local porn merchant are healthy, attractive people having fun, having sex. ‘Having fun’ can mean different things but to me it means that if you shut your eyes and listened to the cast talk, you could imagine them smiling. If someone fell off the bed or something everyone would have a laugh about it. Remember Pretty Woman, where Richard Gere is showing Julia a ring or necklace or something, and suddenly snaps the case shut? She’s really surprised but just laughs and laughs, and if that was acting then she deserves every cent of her millions. A band called New Order have a song called Every Little Counts which is a good song with some really stupid lyrics. The singer just bursts out laughing halfway through the first verse and can hardly keep going. Most of the way he’s fighting off fits of laughter. You can tell they had a lot of fun recording it, and a lot of people really love that song.

A few ‘fun’ moments like these doesn’t sound like something beyond the adult movie industry but sadly they can be scarce. I have one of the Shanes World movies and that’s good. One guy goes, ‘now this is the breakfast of champions.’ as he clears off the table and puts his own ‘spread’ on there and goes down on her. Great stuff.
But the thing about fun is that it excludes anything with negative associations. This did include facials and anal for me but I’ve now seen so much of both that I guess I’ve grown a little used to them and there can be times where they’re bearable. If the guy isn’t carrying on like like an abusive jerk and the girl is really smiling and looks to be truly enjoying herself then I don’t mind it. Not crazy for it, but so long as you have gorgeous women looking happy to be nude in front of the camera I can forgive a degree of ‘weird’ stuff. But any signs of aggression, coercion, reluctance, wincing or other negative stuff is just a huge turn off. Usually there’s some eye fluttering and that’s pretty much enough to kill things for me.

Some I can tolerate some stuff but would definitely prefer that there was a way I could buy movies and be sure they didn’t have it to start with. I think the only way at the moment is to buy stuff from the early nineties. When Private came out with lots of gorgeous European girls and tons of anal lots of people went crazy over one and/or the other and I guess the USA companies thought they had to do tons of anal too to keep up, and that’s the way things are these days. What I’ve done with a few movies is to make copies of them, editing out all the stuff I don’t like. I have this Max Hardcore movie (my one and only purchase of his stuff). I’d say the last two minutes are probably the best half of the edited version.

So overall I can understand that lots of people love the more hardcore / extreme stuff and that’s fine, but there are also plenty of people who shy away from it, maybe never coming back, so some way of content identification sounds like a great idea. It’s a bit like smoking. Some people won’t go to places they can’t smoke, and other won’t go to places where other people are smoking. And I don’t want to have to resort to buying Playboy movies, so maybe adult movies could have letters on the cover A = anal, F = facials, M = Max, etc… so people (like me) can avoid nasty surprises.

Or I’d love to see lots of SPUNKy movies people could buy too. That would work! Maybe one day...

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"One of them wrote something along the lines of, '<some actress> is so good looking I even enjoyed watching her just fucking.'!!! One of the scariest things I've ever read."

Oh, you're a man after my own heart. Yes indeed.

" Is that how people end up after they've watched a certain amount of porn? Am I going to one day be sixty years old and so jaded that only things that will register at all will require drugs, electrodes and extensive use of the 'Anal Intruder' (as seen - all too briefly for some - in the movie Top Secret). Maybe, maybe."

It can happen. Although the picture you paint made ME laugh out loud, it is not that unthinkable, really. For some there seems to be a progression and escalation into harder and harder porn. I don't think anyone can deny that, but I suppose there's nothing to be done about it either, until someone crosses the 'line', which is kept arbitrary. For many others, there comes a point where you just realize that this is turning you OFF more than anything, and unless things change, the people churning out this stuff are going to start losing a lot of viewers. But don't despair, and don't send away for that 'Anal Intruder' just yet. Many studios are represented here at ADT, and they DO listen to what we have to say.

I myself would like to see *some* porn scale back a little. As you said, show them having fun, keep their clothes on a little longer, stop with all the DPs, the inevitable frenzied jerk off into the girl's face, the general hard and mean tone that so many of them have. I'm beginning to sound like a broken record, but I think the key here is VARIETY.

A movie I think you would like, and wouldn't have to be embarrassed to show a girlfriend (as well as being downright HOT) is Justine: Nothing To Hide 2. I should have my review posted sometime today. It was made in '94 as well, and they do have fun in it!

Again, welcome Meridian. It's going to be a pleasure to have you here.

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I’m one guy out of millions, but it seems like the industry just seems to keep churning out movies and it’s incredibly hard to differentiate them. If there was a title released that I would really love it would just be one of a thousand on display in a store and I would never know. There’s demand and supply but it’s not always so easy for them to meet up. I could read reviews but how can I tell if they had similar tastes to mine? Is there only you Blondie…? Maybe all reviewers should have to list their top 10 of all time as a reference.

As for the (in our view) shortcomings that have been mentioned there’s obviously a lot of demand for them. It’d be interesting to see how the top 10 titles of 2000 or say 1994 compared in terms of content and sales. Has the ascendancy of facials / anal boosted sales? I’d guess it has, and that these days there are a lot of guys churning through the harder edged stuff while most other people buy a lot fewer tapes per year. And they just walk into a store and choose almost at random too. That’s the demand side simplified quite nicely...

Onto the movie makers and I always thought that the guys with the ‘take that, bitch’ attitude probably needed it to keep their hard ons going for hour after hour. It's hard work (ha ha) I'm sure.

The part I don’t really understand are the female performers. I remember a comment you made once about women who wouldn’t do anal disappearing after a few months and I don’t really understand that. They’re viewed as porn stars lite? Everyone gets bored of them so quickly because they’re only playing around, not doing the ‘real’ stuff? There so much pressure put on them do it that they either do, or go? No wonder many only do girls or simulated sex. I'm sure there are plenty of women who thrive on the combative, aggressive stuff and don't mind things that others might consider degrading but fear that it also takes a toll on others...

And I could be way off base here but I think a lot of guys are basically just full of crap when they’re talking with beautiful women. It’s infintely easier to talk about appearance, or physical things than emotions. They say, ‘you should get a boob job’ because it’s a really easy thing to say. Everyone ‘knows’ a boob job = better boobs just like a nose job = nicer nose so why not do it? Who’s going to argue against ‘better’ breasts? Not too many guys, so I guess it eventually builds up to a deafening chorus. Similarly with anal. Yeah, you should do it. Everyone wants you to. Everyone else does it. Pays more. Not that a big deal. The fans worship it. You'll feel better. Blah, blah, blah.

And maybe they’re right some or even most of the time. Sometimes it seems like the whole world is at war with our insecurities and anything can look good compared to what we see in the mirror. Whatever works for people... And maybe I’m completely rambling about things I don’t know that much about, who knows.

Now that I'm finished ranting and complaining I'll work something postive, about the things I (would) love to see more of. Eagerly awaited I'm sure, (by an audience of at least one!), but I like to write and it'll make me feel better.

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Funny thing is I think more of the market is looking for natural people having fun sex rather than heads in toilets. But the silent majority stays silent and simply stops buying porn.

Edited by - stephdunn on Nov 20 2001

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