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bargin
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Posted - Mar 27 2014 : 12:10PM
How can they stay hard during those acrobatic and fast fuckings that require the blood to move to muscles instead of the dick. Thats what happens to me all the time. The dick goes soft when I try to be really active with my partner on top of me for example.
glow99
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Posted - Mar 27 2014 : 3:02PM
Wouldn't it be more difficult being on top than it is being on the bottom?
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Posted - Mar 27 2014 : 6:10PM
It is my understanding that a lot of the male talent use performance enhancing drugs. I can't say for certain that answers your question, though.
bargin
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Posted - Mar 28 2014 : 8:05AM
If you do the thrusting from the bottom, just like in most porn films, for example Manuel, Erik Everhard etc.
What about the scenes where you watch the male pornstars go from limp to hard. As I said I don't know how the do it.
Slector
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Posted - Mar 29 2014 : 1:27AM
Using Viagra or Cialis doesn't mean you have an erection constantly. It just makes it easier to get it hard when you want it to.
 
earthwindfire
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Posted - Mar 29 2014 : 2:57AM
Viagra, etc help a lot and most guys in the industry would use it. But, these guys are also "Special" and can do things that most people can not. That is why they chose a career in porn; it is something only a very select few can do. Most guys think because they can bone a girl from the bar for 2 hours they can make it in porn. It isn't that easy as we all know.
Most of us, even if we use Viagra, still can't do some of the crazy shit porn guys do. Just the way it is. It is hard when we try to compare ourselves to porn performances when fucking in real life. I find porn an enjoyable part of life but I have always found myself super critical of my performances and even if I fuck a girl until she is sore and says stop I still have this fear I didn't perform enough.
GMfan
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Posted - Apr 13 2014 : 10:38AM
"Special"? Er... Okay.
So, edging techniques, being potentially desensitization due to circumcision, viagra etc, psychological tricks etc and even editing don't ever play a part? For all we know, a guy could be doing multiplication tables in his head while he's on screen.
Also, consider sexuality. If a male performer is Bi, leaning more toward gay, the emotional distance of the situation can allow for him to last longer.
You seem to idolise male performers and they make you feel insecure despite you "fucking a girl sore". But you're not considering the environment of a film set and all the various aspects listed above. And sexual performance in reality doesn't just boil down to banging away over and over again.
pornfanatic
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Posted - Apr 25 2014 : 11:29AM
Are you implying that guys like randy spears, mick blue, erik everhard and manuel ferrara have genuine erections?
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Posted - Apr 25 2014 : 7:07PM
Manuel for one has addressed the question that he uses anything pretty head on. He says he doesn't use anything and I haven't heard anything to suggest otherwise. In fact I've only heard things that make that seem likely. A bts showed Riley Steele, Manuel and the cameraman talking about drinking. The cameraman brought up how Manuel doesn't drink and is reluctant to use even Tylenol. I can't speak on the other guys, but Manuel seems to genuinely not put much of any drug in his body.
Cloudburst
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Posted - May 1 2014 : 9:42AM
What about stuff that guys inject directly into their dicks like Caverject? How common is that versus using a pill like Viagra?
Also what percentage of guys working in the industry do not use any sexual enhancement aids at all?
Fld
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Posted - May 3 2014 : 6:05PM
I don't understand the question. Unless you do olympic heavy lifting or running on a convoyer belt at the same time, it's unlikely that it get soft because of moving.
Staying in good health, eating natural vitamines is more effective than viagra.
pornfanatic
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Posted - May 6 2014 : 6:59AM
What vitamins are you referring to? Anything specific?
Fld
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Posted - May 6 2014 : 7:14PM
No, nothing specific. Fruits, vegetables... you get it...
earthwindfire
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Posted - May 7 2014 : 2:42AM
I don't understand why anyone would opt for the needle injection into the penis when there are several pill products you can swallow. Yikes!
I could be wrong, but I read somewhere that Caverject works whether you are turned on or not. Whereas , Viagra and the like do require a sexual arousal to get things "up".
Edited by - earthwindfire on 5/7/2014 2:43:36 AM
Fld
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Posted - May 7 2014 : 6:43PM
I'v seen a documentary about it and the guy said that he trained a lot.
He masturbates at least once day for an hour or more and try to last as long as possible and control what he is doing.
He said that Viagra and other stuffs don't replace such training.
You can train yourself into that.
 
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Posted - May 23 2014 : 8:31PM
I'm confused, what are you worried about by clicking it? Seems to simply be letting people know the blog may have adult content, why the privacy concerns?

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Cloudburst
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Posted - May 23 2014 : 9:35PM
One of the articles contains the following: "It was normal by default. To be a male porn star meant that you swallowed pills or shot up your dick."
Is this actually true, that all male porn stars use pills or injections?
Secondly, if true wouldn't pretty much any decent looking male who's not obese be able to work in the porn industry? All he has to do is swallow one or two ED pills and his dick can stay erect in order to overcome anxiety about the other people on set and being on camera.
Am I missing something here? Because I constantly hear about how SUPER HARD it is to get into porn, and that's why you see the same guys over and over.
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Posted - May 23 2014 : 10:48PM
Danny is saying that to be a male porn star, you need some pharmaceutical assistance. He is not saying that taking the pills can make you a porn star. That's an entirely different issue.
Here's a sports analogy. A number of top athletes (especially those who have been busted) have said you need to take performance enhancing drugs to play in the big leagues. But no top athlete has ever said that PEDs can make an everyday joe into a top athlete.
Taking Viagra won't guarantee you'll be able to get an erection. It might help, but it's not a guarantee.
The reason why the same guys work over and over in porn is not because new guys who want to break into the business can't perform. It's because they might not be able to perform, and that's the key. A producer is hiring a production crew, makeup artists, location shoot fees and the female(s). That's a shitload of money invested. When he hires a guy, should he hire a new guy who may or may not be able to perform, and if the guy can't perform, the producer has thrown thousands of dollars down the drain? Or is he going to hire a guy how has proven himself time and time again, even if he has to pay more? The choice is pretty obvious. That's why it's hard for new guys to enter the business. It's not that they can't do the job. It's that they haven't yet proven that they can do the job. Do you understand the difference?
Have you ever taken Viagra? I have, and yes, it does help me maintain an erection. But if I had to be in a room full of dudes I didn't know telling me how to bend my body and place my head, telling me to stop making noise or say certain things, telling me to move over there, and then cum RIGHT NOW, I guarantee I would go soft. I'm pretty sure most dudes would go soft in that situation.
Funny thing about Viagra, is that increasing your dosage only helps to a certain point. 25mg was good, 50mg was better, but 100mg wasn't any better than 50mg. So it's not as if you can just dose the guy more until it works.
If you want to get your foot in the door, and it seems you do because you keep bringing this issue up, you should find a hot girlfriend who also wants to enter the industry. Or be born with a ridiculously huge dick that works consistently on command. Can't change the latter, but you may be able to do something about the former.
amadeo
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Posted - May 24 2014 : 1:02AM
ED meds help. Suhagra, Tadacip.... etc.
Cloudburst
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Posted - May 24 2014 : 4:37AM
Macko I appreciate the response but how do you know all of these things are true about the porn industry, do you actually work in it or know people who do?
Here's my question: so I'm a guy with a huge penis who is also an exhibitionist. I'm pretty sure I have what it takes to make it into porn but I don't have a girl I can bring with me. Is there a real chance of me getting a chance to prove myself or all doors shut? And if it's the latter, then how do the few new guys (key word there being FEW not NONE) that you see each year break into the porn industry?

Edited by - Cloudburst on 5/24/2014 4:39:25 AM

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Posted - May 24 2014 : 6:51AM
I don't have any firsthand experience with the porn industry, but I think I've read quite a bit about it both on this forum and elsewhere. One of the most repeated questions is from guys asking how they can get into the industry, and the answers I've read from industry insiders is always the same, so I'm just repeating what I've read. You've posted on here a lot, so I must assume that you've also read the same advice that I've given, right?
Another entry into porn that I didn't mention earlier is by doing gay porn first. That's how Peter North and a few other guys did it.
I guess I have the mindset of an employer. If I want to hire someone to do a job, I want to make sure they can do the job first. And if there's the possibility that someone new who doesn't know what they're doing can cost me a lot of money, I don't mind paying extra to hire someone with a proven track record. Same fundamentals carry over to porn, I imagine. You have to prove you know how to fuck well.
If you have a big dick and you're an exhibitionist, that's a start. But if you expect that a producer is going to let you demonstrate your skill on a girl he provides, I seriously doubt that would happen. Why don't you find a girl who doesn't mind making a sex tape, then send that out to porn studios? I mean it's always possible that you'll get a lucky break without having to find a girl willing to fuck you on camera first, but if you're serious about being a porn star, it seems kind of ignorant to just rely on hope instead of taking the steps that will greatly increase your chances of success.
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Posted - May 25 2014 : 12:12AM
You didn't answer this question: how do the few new guys that you see each year break into the industry do it if it is supposedly super-duper extremely hard to get in?
About having an employer mindset, that's the issue right there in a way. People don't even want to take a risk (I mean how much $$$ would they lose if the guy fucks up the scene anyway) so they keep using the SAME FUCKING GUYS over and over and over, who BTW then have the ability to bang THOUSANDS of attractive women from a large "porn pool", while at the same time keeping out potential new talent that can do the job just as good. Then maybe instead of the SAME GUYS fucking a different hot new chick EVERY DAY, they'll only get to fuck a hot new chick once or twice a week.

Edited by - Cloudburst on 5/25/2014 12:17:10 AM

 
Macko69
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Posted - May 25 2014 : 2:27AM
A lot.
Here's a suggestion: please continue to grumble as to why new guys are rarely given a chance. Because people who grumble about the way things work are so much more successful in life than people who actually try to make things happen.
"...new talent that can do the job just as good." Yeah, right.
Cloudburst
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Posted - May 25 2014 : 5:02AM
In response to your statement about "grumbling", your logic is completely faulty as usual.
For example you write about people who "make things happen" at the same time writing about how hard the industry makes it for new guys who want to break in, how it's almost impossible. According to you if you can't find a girl (and let's be honest what are your chances of finding a girl to do porn with) or do gay porn (which is revolting and a non-starter if you're a straight guy), then you can't get into the business, so why even bother then?
Regarding the cost of filming a scene, what exactly is "a lot"? Are we talking several hundred dollars, several thousand, give an approximate amount. I'll even throw out a wild card for you, what if the guy trying to get into the biz pays for the scene up front? If he fucks up then the studio doesn't lose any money.

Edited by - Cloudburst on 5/25/2014 5:20:10 AM

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Posted - May 25 2014 : 12:09PM
Macko69A is talking about a percentage of income, not a specific dollar amount. No matter what your income is, spending a lot of it on one project is a big risk.
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Posted - May 25 2014 : 1:24PM
Did you really think anyone would ever be serious about such a comment? Are you unable to identify sarcasm?
I see what the issue is now. You are incapable of imagining yourself in someone else's position. In the Porn Pool thread where we had an exchange, I said when I watch porn I imagine myself in the guy's position, and you were incredulous that I could do such a thing. In the "why I would never hire a prostitute" thread, you said you'd never hire a prostitute because if you started to choke her and she told you to stop, it'd remind you that you were paying for her to fuck you and make you feel like a chump. You are unable to understand what a woman being fucked by a stranger would feel if the stranger were to start choking her. Can you even fathom how fucking terrifying that would be for the woman? The only thing YOU cared about is how she would make YOU feel.
And now you are incapable of understanding why a producer would prefer to hire a guy who has proven he can get the job done over someone who has no track record, and may or may not get the job done. The only thing you are fixated on is the question of why they won't take a chance on a new guy like YOU. No concern about the producer wasting his money, wasting everyone else's time, and hurting his professional reputation. You can't even imagine how damaging this could be for someone else. It's all about you.
Dude, out of concern for you and those around you, I once again urge you to seek professional help before something very bad happens. A person who is incapable of seeing situations from another's point of view is really a danger to themselves and people they come in contact with.
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Posted - May 26 2014 : 11:40AM
QUESTION FOR MODS:
Are personal attacks allowed on this forum? Macko69 has now "diagnosed" me two times, and made me seem like some sort of psychopath who can't put himself in other peoples shoes. He is twisting my words around making all sorts of personal accusations about my character based on things I said on a porn discussion thread

Edited by - Cloudburst on 5/26/2014 11:49:13 AM

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Posted - May 26 2014 : 11:47AM
Macko you are operating from the POV of the greedy employer. I'm thinking about the underdog guy who's trying to break into the business, not about myself. The reason it pisses me off is because the SAME GUYS get to fuck thousands of hot girls, while new performers are kept out by greedy selfish producers who won't even give the guy a chance to prove himself, you couldn't be more wrong on this one.
davebowman
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Posted - May 26 2014 : 12:44PM
The answer is simple: hire a prostitute/escort to have sex on camera with you (there are plenty who will offer this service, though unless it's all POV you'll need to find or hire someone else to actually shoot the thing - again, some girls will provide this service). Then send your sex tape to all the porn producers, and hope that your blistering sex skills will impress them so much they will give you a chance.
But then I realised, going by another thread you have stated that you will never pay anyone else for sex. Despite seemingly wanting a career where you yourself get paid for having sex.
Oh well. <shrugs>
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Posted - May 26 2014 : 1:01PM
^^
Numerous people here are assuming that I myself want a career in porn (which is understandable because of my questions) however I do not.
I am asking questions relating to the difficulty of new guys (not myself, but new guys who want a career in porn) breaking into the industry, and why it puts up so many barriers and makes it super-hard for new performers to enter the industry. It bothers me and seems like a selfish asshole greedy thing to do to keep new guys out while simultaneously enabling the same batch of guys to fuck thousands of hot girls over and over year after year. Some prolific performers who are still active have been in the industry for 15, 20, 25+ years and they are still fucking hot young girls instead of allowing some new blood into the industry.
Sean Michaels is a good example, the guy is 56 years old and he's been in porn now 27 years fucking thousands upon thousands of hot chicks in the ass.
Edited by - Cloudburst on 5/26/2014 1:02:10 PM
 
Macko69
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Posted - May 26 2014 : 3:11PM
Oh man, I'm sorry. I guess I misunderstood. Let's me reread what you wrote earlier.
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Posted - May 26 2014 : 3:33PM
Porn is a business. The only goal is to make money.
Lets say you've got a scene set up. You've got the female talent hired, you've got the crew hired, you've got the location hired, you only have a certain amount of time to get the scene shot.
Do you take a chance on hiring some complete unknown newbie, who has no proven track record, may fail to get wood, lose wood halfway through a scene, not be able to come, or come too early - hell, the guy may not even turn up! Or do you hire someone you know can and will perform, and has proved so thousands of times before.
If you don't mind losing the whole day, and $$$$ for the shoot, then you take the newbie.
Any sane person trying to make a profit on the scene will take the proven professional.
davebowman
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Posted - May 26 2014 : 3:35PM
Hell, I'd like to see more varieties of guys in porn as well, but the reason they find it so hard to break in isn't because people are being 'selfish asshole greedy', but for very practical, sensible reasons regarding not wanting some newbie to fuck up your scene and cost you money.
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Posted - May 26 2014 : 7:12PM
.
It's called a hypothetical dumbass.
Edited by - Cloudburst on 5/26/2014 7:14:13 PM
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Posted - May 26 2014 : 8:48PM
What businessman will take the risk of shooting a newbie when experience has thaught him that over 90% (if not 99%) of the guys who want to be in porn will fail in front of a camera?
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Posted - May 26 2014 : 8:55PM
Jacco can you explain how a few new guys do break into the industry each year, if as you say producers won't take a chance on hiring any new guys??
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Posted - May 27 2014 : 6:49AM
Usually the way davebowman mentioned, they hire a girl and shoot a scene with her. Do that a few times and you might get noticed. You can sell those scenes to the amateur lines. I know several guys who started that way, both as a performer and as a director.
One other way is having a really hot girlfriend who only wants to perform with you.

Jacco

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Posted - Jun 8 2014 : 6:58PM
The industry is geared towards new women, not new men. Just look at the discrepancy in pay terms. Guys might get $500 a shoot while girls get $500-$3000+. And yes, new guys can 'break into' the industry. You do it by shooting yourself with your own new women talent pool. That's the only sure fire way. You can hire current female talent when your revenue streams are coming in.



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