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VincentVanGauge
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Posted - Aug 23 2005 : 11:15AM
Well, of course it would help if I knew I was good. I care for the girl, prostitute or not, and want her to get off because I think that's the point in sex. Of course I said I prefer to have had sex to have sex, but there is more to having had sex than just having put my penis into a vagina. So I think it's normal that I'm nervous, though I don't think I'll have any wood problems. Making up my mind is much more difficult than making up my penis...
Um... sounds great but what does that mean exactly?

There's no such thing as inexistence.

Robbie
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Posted - Aug 23 2005 : 12:08PM
Hey Vince, how's the job hunting going?
VincentVanGauge
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Posted - Aug 23 2005 : 12:39PM
Thanks for asking, Robbie. Oh well, I must admit I don't do too much for it... looking for a job is depressing stuff and I'll have to become busier at it if I want to be successful. But well, it would be much easier without being depressed, that's for sure.

There's no such thing as inexistence.

Robbie
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Posted - Aug 23 2005 : 3:38PM
Vince, getting out the house is a must for you. Basics right. Promise us you'll spend at least an hour a day looking at job sites. Yeah?


 
VincentVanGauge
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Posted - Aug 23 2005 : 6:59PM
I only make promises when I'm sure I'll keep them, so I'm sorry. All these companies who only want people with at least three years of work experience and a driving licence or only women with French as first language bore the crap out of me. It's the same as with women, you only succeed when you're already successful.

There's no such thing as inexistence.

scipio
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Posted - Aug 24 2005 : 10:17AM
You just need to pull your fist out, mate.

If you can't get a job, find something that interests you and get into some study.

This will get you:
Out of the house.
Some skills or marketability.
Interacting with real life humans. Not anonymous nobodies on the interweb.
Some of them are girls. Practice talking to them as people instead of potential lovers. Just doing this will improve your confidence in speaking to the opposite sex.

so.. which is it?

If it's just nerves.. honestly, just suck it up, grow some balls and do it. Look at ShiWarrior's recent escapades. He started as nerveous as all hell, now he's a veteran.

When it comes down to it though, wasting time on the internet is fun, but chances are you'll never meet any of us, and eventually we'll all move on from ADT at some point or another and you'll have nothing left from this.

Sure people on the net can be nice, intelligent, offer many perspectives different to your own, etc, but your life is what's going on right now, and the most valuable experiences you'll have aren't reading this post, they're outside.

Play on the net by all means, but live your life outside as well. Otherwise, one day 10 years down the track you'll wake up one morning, and wonder where a huge chunk of your life went.

Life is hard sometimes, but you've got a far better lot in life than most of the world's population. Make the most of it while you can.

Robbie
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Posted - Aug 25 2005 : 6:53AM
I think I've been quite direct with you Vince several times when a lot of people have done the nicey-nicey approach. I've asked you What the fuck did you do before adt? and some basics in this thread, like Did you leave the house today?

It was all with the best of intentions and I reckon you have made some progress. But I have to +1 scipio.

Change in tactics, mate. You've had a lot of excellent advice and its not working. So, I almost feel like I need to make you feel embarrassed or something. I don't mean to be nasty, I just want the best for you. You're very talented and totally underestimate yourself, and I'm just getting so frustrated now!


VincentVanGauge
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Posted - Aug 25 2005 : 9:41AM
Scipio, thank you for your honesty. Everything you say sounds so logical, and yet I still can't put it into action. Here I have friends, out there I'm alone and don't belong anywhere. And whenever I go out I experience again that I don't belong where I went to.

As for the two paragraphs you quoted I don't think they're mutually exclusive. I want to know I had sex with a girl and made her cum, not just put my penis into her, otherwise it's not sex somehow, it's just accompanied masturbation.

I already wonder now where all these years have gone. My environment raised me to obey, not to become a self-dependant adult. And suddenly no one is there to lead anymore and everything I believed in and worked my butt off for (because I knew nothing else) crashed and all my efforts had been in vain.
I know, it sounds like a cheap excuse and a try to blame it on others. But what can I say, I was paralyzed by fear (especially of hell) my whole life long and still am. Whatever I do is staying where I feel comfortable and avoiding fear. It may be wrong but I hope it's at least understandable somehow.

I know I've got a better lot than most others and I often had a bad conscience because of that. But it's the things one cannot see I lack most. Those that are not essential to survive. Those that make the difference between existence and life - love and happiness. These don't come from material wealth and I don't want to have a bad conscience anymore that I'm unhappy even though I have a better lot than most. I blamed myself for everything my whole life long (well, until I started to think for myself, watch porn and so on), now I've become too tired for that.

Robbie, please don't be frustrated. I've been looking for advice since years now and never managed to put anything into action. I just didn't completely give up everything yet though I'm pretty hopeless. Please don't expect anything will change anytime soon. Maybe it will, maybe it won't. I'm so used not to get what I want (concerning immaterial things) that I just don't believe in anything anymore - well, except for going to hell. That doesn't help, and forced belief doesn't work.

And please don't stop being the good friends you are "for my own good". I won't blame anyone if I get the feeling that I wasted my time some day. It's my own decision to be here - finally something that is my own decision.

Maybe we should let this thread rest now and have fun in the others. There's a lot of great advice here, and if I ever overcome my angst then maybe I'll succeed. Since there obviously is no trick to get some without confidence I have to get rid of my fears first.


Edited by - VincentVanGauge on 8/25/2005 9:45:18 AM

croy
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Posted - Aug 26 2005 : 10:55PM
Robbie, I think many have tried. He has gotten comfortable not taking that first step.

VVG, a man with nothing to lose is the most dangerous of all.
With nothing to lose, there is no reason to hold back from achieving a goal.
Don't wait until then.

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