Since most of the fans, top directors, and top companies don't seem to like all these fake and ugly implants that the girls insist on getting, why not phase them out, make better porn, and make more money by paying those women less money? You can't just say not to use them because there wouldn't be enough talent to choose from. But, what if the top five companies just say there's gonna be an across the board cut of say $500 or 30 per cent less for a scene for any girl who has implants. The talent pool doesn't dry up, the girls still need the work and have to take less, the companies pay less, it encourages the girls not to get implants, and the fans are happier if this scourge of porn slows down. It just rewards good behavior. And if the implant mania slows down, it keeps the fans happier, makes for better porn, fans spend more, and companies make more money.Money runs any business, so why not use a money incentive to make it run better?
Frankly, if anyone can look at some of the worst boob jobs on the planet and get an erection and encourage other women to do the same thing, I think they just might be a lost cause. It seems we have more porn fans who love implants than people who don't care for them. I don't understand how that could be but whatever.
Yeah I think the numbers speak for themselves. Those of us who don't like implants are clearly in the minority, whether it makes sense to us or not. We're just more vocal about it and that's why it seems like there are so many of us.
Because if you look at the tests where they ask you to point out the fake tits MOST people can't tell most of the time. Porn fans (true) porn fans are a special breed, they can tell partially because they see so many tits and partially because they follow the girls from entry to departure and get to say hmmm Lela Star didn't used to have fantastic tits! Guys like tits. I think something that the all natural crowd might be better off pushing is for more "normal" porn. You'll never get rid of tits (fake or no) cus the majority would prefer big fake tits to small real ones. But I know I purposely avoid anything with Teen in the title because Teen is code for flat. If I was attracted to twelver year old boys. . .I'd probably be jail. But still.
^ I love big tits. No, wait. I LOVE big tits. Big real tits. This has nothing to do with being attracted to twelve year old boys. In fact, while I can accept that a particular star has small tits and I will still be willing to check her out, if she doesn't have the other womanly curves either, I won't be a fan. I don't think anyone will say Brianna Love or Jenny Hendrix look like twelve year old boys. But it's not even that I love small tits. I love, love, love big ones too! For every Naomi that I enjoy watching, there's also a Gianna Michaels, Cassandra Calogera or Jordan Star that I watch all the time. And it's not just about stars who get implants after they started in the biz. Of course those are easily noticeable. Lela Star was a good example of someone whose tits I liked (and they weren't small before, they were a healthy C-cup), and then she got implants, and I didn't like her tits anymore. But I also don't like many of the fake tits that came attached to their owners when they started in porn. That's why I've never enjoyed Audrey Bitoni's scenes for example, and I've never seen what her tits looked like before she got into the biz. It's not just breast implants, either. I also don't like butt implants, like Heidi Mayne or Danielle Derek. But I love junk in the trunk plenty. See, it's not about big or small. All sizes can look good. It's about tits that actually look like tits. And feel like tits, and move like tits... you get the idea (I hope). [edit: one of the pic links went dead, had to find a new one.] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 12/16/2008 3:58:18 AM
this is an incredibly idiotic statement sammy boy.... i mean ridiculous. not all of us have bad boob jobs thank you. and there are a good amount of fans who dont mind boob jobs. and to make a suggestion like yours is plain silly, the whole cutting the girls rates by $500 for having boob jobs? really? how about we stop beating a dead horse about the implants crap. it gets old. just accept that there is always going to be boob jobs in porn, if you dont like them buy or rent dvds that have only natural breasted chicks in it "im the girl your mother warned you about"
That's not really it either. I took one of those "tests" to see if I could spot fake tits. Now in porn, I spot them right away, usually. In these tests, I often don't. Why? Because they deliberately use photos where you can't really tell. Maybe it's a pose where the implants are less obvious or really favorable lighting. Whatever. Those tests are designed to fool people. Most porn chicks are not fooling anybody with their implants. We complain because they are not "fantastic". They usually look awful. Best case scenario is that they will be a little suspicious looking. Often they're so bad you can't help but think about them the whole time they're on screen.I like tea. I won't drink just any tea. I actually care what it tastes like.What? None of that makes any sense at all. There was a woman I knew all my life who was as flat chested as I am. She was 25 years old the day I was born. She was as flat the day she died of leukemia as she ever was. If you think a woman looks like a 12 year old boy because she's flat chested, that's pretty fucked up. A lot of women are just flat or have small breasts. There's a big difference between a 30 year old woman with small breasts and a 12 year old boy so stop with the stupid insinuations. And teen should not be code for flat. Teen should be English for teen. As in 18 and 19. I don't care if the girls are flat, medium or huge. I just don't want to look at fake tits. I've seen 19 year olds who had natural boobs bigger than most fake boobs. I've seen 40 year old women with flatter chests than many 18 year olds. We have been trying to normalize nature. It is just natural for some women to be flat. And it isn't necessarily unattractive. It's just variety. As long as they're old enough to be fucking, there's no reason to be going on with the pedo labels. I don't understand what you're saying here. Normal porn? Can you elaborate? Normal people know normal women who are flat chested. It IS normal. Why should there be anything wrong with these women doing porn looking exactly the same way they'd look having sex with their husbands or BFs? Edited by - randomprecision on 12/13/2008 12:49:37 AM
I would have to agree about Implants don't make or break a performer for me and I would suspect for the vast majority of porn viewers outside of ADT as well.
For some the boob job is really too bad. An example that comes to mind is Lela Star. Personally, that was a deal breaker. Senseless travesty, lol But the idea of financial penalty for boob jobs? STUPID. It is all up to personal taste. No reason Lela should not get paid for her scenes like everyone else Personally, my taste is capricious when it comes to boob jobs. On some, think it looks bad. On others, think it looks great. Some of my faves like Mindy Main and Lichelle Marie have really obvious fake tits. Actually started liking Kara Bare MORE once she changed her look and became Shawna Lenee with the boob job and the bleached hair. And yes, have put down good money to watch scenes by all of them and many other boob jobbed performers. So you see Sammyboy, it is all a matter of taste, so it makes no sense to have an "across the board" pay cut like you are suggesting. Such a rule is just YOU trying to enforce YOUR taste on everyone else. Do you think your taste speaks for all fans?
I think maybe this is the biggest problem. Women are lead to believe there's such a thing as a good boob job. For those of us who really dislike them, if we can tell it's a boob job, it's a bad one. You don't notice a boob job on a girl you've never seen before unless it looks unnatural. That's what I don't like. That's a big thing with me. I have a hard time with painting a tree pink to make it prettier. If you're going to interfere with nature, you need a true artist. And even then, it's the entire concept of the thing most of us who don't like them are objecting to. These guys doing most of these boob jobs are mostly charlatans. Edited by - randomprecision on 12/13/2008 2:32:29 AM
If you can't tell the difference between women and boys you should start over and search for better clues. Actually talking to real women might help with the clarification. This is how guys leave a party with a tranvestite and swear they did not know. "But She had really big tits.." There is a similar line in the movie "Only The Lonely" By Maureen Ohara to Alley Sheedy "Theresa (Ally): No, no that's a problem I have, I'm not really that endowed on top. Danny (JohnCandy): No, no, no, no, no. Rose (Maureen): You're built like a thirteen year old boy..... And this takes you to the part of the problem that will never be solved. "Self" esteem based on someone elses opinion of yourself. This continues to escalate until a behemoth like Maureen Ohara or a super thin Twiggy become the standard for all women to emulate with nothing in the middle. It's not a one size fits all world we live in. The same esteem problems faced by men show up when a guy like Steven Warshak sells enzyte and gets 25 years in prison for bilking over $500million out of guys who were not satisfied with the size of their penises. The breast implants are more icing than they are cake to me. They are not a deal breaker by any means. If the girl is happy with the enhancement then so am I....
Again, that is your personal taste and you are welcome to it. But that hardly justifies "across the board" rule like Sammyboy is suggesting. Ridiculous it is simple, if boob jobs were truly universally hated, then there would be no market for it. No chick would get them. Fact is, they are NOT hated. Fact is, many guys like big tits on chicks, fake or not. So be it Frankly, it's stupid to try to force specific personal taste on entire porn industry
I know they are not universally hated. Those who absolutely hate them are probably in the minority, in fact.I have no polite response to that.Well, sorry. I've been trying to jerk off to porn that's been utterly ruined by fake boobs my entire adult life. No single thing has made my porn viewing more miserable than this. It's been improving a bit lately but there have been many times when a scene that would have been dynamite was rendered unwatchable because of implants. Edited by - randomprecision on 12/13/2008 7:17:09 AM
Who are these supposed top directors and top companies that supposedly don't like these implants? It seems to me that the biggest concern of any of these companies is to make money. And since the top companies seem to employ girls with them in large numbers in would stand to reason those girls have a big following and the company makes money from it and that's why they're the "top companies". If "most" fans supposedly don't like fake breasts why do the movies with girls with implants usually sell so much better than girls with flat chests or "all natural" titles? Why if "most" fans don't like fake breasts why hasn't they've gone away in porn? It seems that if what you say were true the porn biz would reflect the no implant trend after all this time.That is totally ridiculous on a number of levels. First, if this were true in any way possible the girls without implants would all be the biggest stars in the biz. Second, there's plenty of girls without implants to turn to if a company wanted to actually go that route. The company/directors pick the girls they aren't forced to pick anyone they don't want. Also, there are girls trying to break into porn in record numbers and some of them don't have implants. If the hatred of implants was as big as you claim the girls without would be the ones to mostly get in the biz and have the biggest careers but that's obviously not the case. Where are all these poor women with boobjobs complaining about how implants ruined their career and got them less work? They must be out there in high numbers because according to some on this "most" guys don't like them and they're so horrible to look at. If we listen to the nonsense being said here a boob job is the kiss of death for the career of any girl who gets them because they are supposedly so universally hated. If you don't like boob jobs that's perfectly okay. But all this other silly crap that gets thrown out in these discussions by guys who don't like implants is just silly. If you don't personally like breast implants that good enough...really. There's no need to claim no one else likes them or they all look horrible or they're ruining the porn biz or whatever daffy rationalization you come up with to try and justify your own personal hang up. And try to remember that the porn industry isn't building itself around your personal tastes and hang ups. There's plenty of different girls, fetishes, companies, directors and porn for anyone to enjoy. Watch the stuff you like and stop dwelling on what you don't. fixed quote Edited by - heynow on 12/14/2008 11:42:13 AM
The surgical scars are sometimes helpful too You're kidding, right? The only fake tits that fool me, are the ones that have been exceptionally well-done, and still look and move like real tits (e.g. Lanny Barbie).
I do wonder if a girls IQ and the likelihood of her having a boob job are linked? I don't know any smart women who'd consider it! For me, natural, even when it's A or B cup, is so much more sexy than even the best fakies!
Well then, that's your tough shit. The entire porn industry is not at your behest. Again, you are welcome to your personal taste. What Sammyboy is suggesting is that that taste be enforced "across the board." It's stupid, not to mention totally presumptuous and self absorbed Personally, high heels turn me off. Garter belts and stockings turn me off too. They are actually a deal breaker to me when it comes to whether or not a scene is watchable. Yet they are common in porn Would it then make sense to have an "across the board" pay cut against any director who puts those things in a scene? Of course not. Easy enough to just watch some other porn that doesn't have those things. Goddamn there's enough porn out there to cater to whatever your taste might be, enough of this whining
I haven't seen any such link in real life. Some of the smartest women I've known have had plastic surgery of one kind or another, most of it unnecessary in my opinion. One of the managers in a company I used to work at had fake tits. She went on holiday flat chested and came back with a D-cup and a new wardrobe of low-cut tops. She could be a bit of a bitch, but she definitely wasn't stupid. I wonder if the surgery ultimately helped or hindered her career? As for porn. There does seem to be a good argument that fake boobs increase a performer's earnings. That's hard to understand for those of us who hate fake boobs, especially when so many performers (Lela Star for example) looked perfect before their surgery, but that does seem to be the case. It's hard to blame a performer for wanting to increase their income. If the surgery does help their career, whether in porn or feature dancing, then it isn't necessarily an unintelligent decision. It's not like they owe their implant hating fans anything. Of course plenty of women, in and out of porn, get them for personal reasons too. If implants genuinely help them feel better about themselves then who are we to argue? I reserve the right to bitch and moan when my favourite porn performers alter themselves, whether that's a boob job, pumped up lips, or bad tattoos, but there are plenty of other girls to watch instead. I never get such a fanboy attachment to a particular girl that her getting fake boobs is the end of the world.
My shit is semi firm. And it only stinks about half the time I know that. If it was, we wouldn't be having this conversation.I never said I agreed with the OP that anything should be enforced. But there is also nothing wrong with giving the girls incentives to keep things natural. If they can be pushed to get boob jobs, why is it any different to go the other way?I don't like 'em either. I've made my peace with high heels but I still hate garters and stockings.I'm the wrong person to ask about that. Because I probably would ban stockings if I could.One would think. It's not always as easy as one might imagine it to be when one hasn't actually looked for something different. Probably 80% of the porn doesn't appeal to me for one reason or another. That's a lot of sorting. It's barely worth it. Edited by - randomprecision on 12/14/2008 6:46:31 PM
I don't see how this equates with a girl getting a boob job, If you don't like how she's dressed in a particular scene, you can wait for her next one, but once she has bolt-ons they're in every scene. You could say that I can just look for other girls, which is true, but this year I've only seen one new girl who I really like and guess what, she gets her tits inflated and they look awful to me!
I'm in the pro impant catagory, at least pro good implant. How I look at it is the porn world if full of artificiality anyway, so what's the harm of a little more of it if it looks good and makes me feel good.
The way I look at it is you don't make things better by making them worse. And the problem is that it almost never looks good. 1. 90% of the time, it looks absolutely terrible and totally ruins whatever appeal a girl might have had in the eyes of anyone who's being realistic. 2. 9% of the time, it isn't completely awful but is only just tolerable because the work was done with extreme discretion and the woman is so hot you can kind of look over it. It's still obvious that it's a boob job and is therefore irritating to people who don't like them on principle. 3. 1% of the time, you can't tell the difference but a debatable improvement in 1% of the women who have it done is simply not worth all the ruin the pursuit of it causes.
It is completely unrealistic to regulate this in any way, nor to use incentives like the ones suggested. What we can to is simply to do what we do here, encourage girls to keep their natural tits, many of them are reading this, as are producers. Also, we can vote with our money, which is probably not going to have a big impact. But that's really where its at and I don't see much point in getting agitated about it. I'll just go with the girls I know and like, that's the safest bet.
really? you dont know any smart women at all then? its to help with how we like ourselves? why is this such a damn big deal? has nothing to do with our iq level, or our snarts here buddy. plenty of smart women get their boobs done. its all about self confidence and they get it from have surgery which btw also doesnt make them any less of a person! "im the girl your mother warned you about"
I love enhanced big tits if they are done right. Adrenalynn(best tits in porn), Madison Scott, Audrey Bitoni(until she re-did them and now I can't watch a new scene with her in it), Katie Morgan, Kianna Bradley(Wow!), Kinzie Kenner, Teagan Presley.
I can also enjoy natural tits. Lexi Belle is incredible, Ruby Knox oh my!, and Jamie Elle has perfect tits. I don't understand why people don't like big tits when there are no scars. It turns me on big time to see a girl with big tits in reverse cowgirl. I love seeing the tits bounce up and down.
You honestly need help figuring out why someone would be hopelessly turned off by fake body parts? If they're implants and I know it, I don't see big tits bouncing up and down. I see implants bouncing up and down. Does that help? Edited by - randomprecision on 12/15/2008 4:31:09 AM
I remember reading once that babies who are deprived of natural feeding become fixated on large breasts in later life. I guess there must be a lot of bottle babies out there in porn buyer land.
I'm a fan of natural boobies. Nice ones, saggy ones, fat ones, flat ones...I love them all. I think that's what I like most about real boobies, they come is soooo many different varieties. Not to say I'm a huge hater of fakies. I love a lot of girls that have 'em, but I just prefer natural ones. They jiggle more and I don't fear popping them when I give them a nice slap or tug (some people are afraid of the dark, I'm afraid of a lawsuit from squeezing and popping some poor girls boob job. Don't ask me why). Anyways, some of my favorite girlies to work with or girls I think are mega hot have boob jobs. Some are done well, some look like they got theirs done at the Dollar Store boob job hut in Panorama City after a night of heavy drinking. It just makes me wanna cry though when I see a girl with PERFECT boobies go out and get them done. I guess that's the fun of watching a lot of porn from the pre-boob-job-craze. In the 70's is was a buffet of all different kinds of perfect natural boobies all jiggly and bouncy with every thrust or slight bump. My final thought goes out to the porno babes thinking about getting a boob job. A.) Wait a few years after the age of 18 to get them done. I too at one point wanted big giant boobies but decided to wait a couple years after becoming of age to get them and a year or so after I turned 18 years old came to a realization, It's about quality not quantity ;) B.) Make sure you are getting them because YOU and only YOU want them and think they will make YOU feel better about yourself. Fuck your current boyfriend, fuck you thinking you'll make more money in porn or dancing if you get them. A boob job is forever, your boyfriend should love you for you and porn and stripping doesn't last forever. C.) If you do decide a tit job is the way to go: Please, PLEASE, PPLLEEAASSEE do not get tit's on a budget. When you get your bobbies done it should be no holds bar in the finance department. You're not buying a jar of mustard, you're buying boobs. Stay away from the cheap shit. Those are the ones that end up looking like big giant octagons on your chest with one nipple facing south and the other one looking kinda north/east.
That's spot on! It's not the size of a womens breast that's hot, it's the shape. I love pert tits, yeah D's are awesome but girls like Sasha Grey and Lexi Belle have great smaller B's. Boobjobs may increase the size but the problem is they fuck up the shape! And your other pont about bursting them. I love playing with girls breast, even being a bit rough with them, if you can't do this or feel scared to do it, then sex is ruined imo.
Chiming in to add that Kristina totally nailed it. I wonder if people are affected by whether they have first-hand experience with fake boobs or not. If they are extra stiff, it feels like there are a few tennis balls sandwiched between me and someone. It's a total turnoff - when I see it on-screen, it has the same effect.
And the way they move. I've only seen a couple of sets of fake boobs that almost had me fooled on the motion part. I said almost because that's exactly how it was. I might not have noticed except for I'm a big fan of the way real tits move. It just doesn't happen with a boob job.
well it doesnt happen when a girl goes way to big, and they are inflated like basketballs in her chest. i must say i think i have had one of the better boob jobs in the industry. they look real, feel real and move like real boobies. and when i am in doggy they dont ripple which with the majority of girls have that ripple affect. and i dont say this to be vain at all im just very happy and proud with them, had a follow up yesterday and the doctor was just so excited that they turned out perfect, she said sometimes she still surprises herself, shes been doing implants for 18 years
I date a (married) woman with tits like yours. Look real, feel real, don't ripple. If you're gonna go for implants, I think that's the way to go. But you so fine any damn way.
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Posted - Dec 18 2008 : 12:12AM
thanks so much! i want some new ones real bad. i want bigger bewbies :] i need to send over some pics to my doc and let him see how much his work is being viewed. and d a m n i can NOT agree more with scars i hate hate hate bewb scars! so glad i have non thanks doc ;]
thanks buddy. i was very picky with the doctors i went to. i went to 5 consultaions with 5 dif docs.... went with a female and she had consistently great results with other patients, i noticed in her books. key thing not to go to lage to fast, choosing the right implant, and placement. some chicks go for the cheap ass doc, or the ones who are jaded and like the ddd look on 120lb'ers "im the girl your mother warned you about"
I'm not a fan of tit jobs. But I admire real-like ones. To me, sex skills and talent should be most important. I love Sasha Grey. Real tits. Real hot. I love Jenna Haze. Real tits. Real hot. Ginger Lynn, in her day. Real tits. Real hot. I think that when a girl has the skills and a unique style of delivering it, men recognize it with boners and dollars. If tit size was paramount there is no way Sasha or Jenna would be as successful and popular as they are. The thing I see in Sasha and Jenna are little babes who can walk into a room....tell a bunch of guys that they'll fuck the shit out of all of them....and then do it joyfully. Who cares about their tits? We love their little ones. They're gorgeous. I also love Shyla. Not crazy about her tits though. But damn! That beautiful-ass WOMAN can fuck! I think women are more concerned with tit size that men are. Hey, fuck men anyway. Remember, boners and dollars. We just wanna see great fucking by fine-ass women.
You might well be right. Hottest women I've seen in porn is Brianna Love. Sasha, Jenna H. and Rebeca L. aren't far behind, newbies like Lexi Belle and Stoya are doing it for me too. Jasus, I don't think there's even a C cup between them and I'm not complaining one bit! Keep it real, girls. Please!
^ NO, GIRLS DO WHAT MAKES PORN FANS HAPPY! Which is the reaction you'll get from most on this forum. As if any of these guys would say no if a girl with implants wanted to fuck them. I still loves me some Mindy Main, Shy Love, Britney Skye, Audrey Bitoni, Lela Star, etc.
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Posted - Dec 12 2008 : 10:53PM
Implants don't make or break a performer for me and I would suspect for the vast majority of porn viewers outside of ADT as well.
You're kidding, right?
I know that. If it was, we wouldn't be having this conversation.I never said I agreed with the OP that anything should be enforced. But there is also nothing wrong with giving the girls incentives to keep things natural. If they can be pushed to get boob jobs, why is it any different to go the other way?I don't like 'em either. I've made my peace with high heels but I still hate garters and stockings.I'm the wrong person to ask about that. Because I probably would ban stockings if I could.One would think. It's not always as easy as one might imagine it to be when one hasn't actually looked for something different. Probably 80% of the porn doesn't appeal to me for one reason or another. That's a lot of sorting. It's barely worth it.