Have 20 and 50 dollar bills hanging out of your pockets where they can see them.

Wear a fragance known as Essence of Wallet. The kind that makes you smell of leather and old money.

Works on many women, regardless of ethnicity.

"Back then they didn't want me,
Now I'm hot they all on me.
I'm Mike Jones..."

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Edited by - BSD on 8/12/2006 6:34:07 PM

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There is a lady named Norah Vincent who is a journalist and she wrote a book about becoming a man. For 18 months she dressed as a he, 'Ned,' did guy things like visit strip clubs, joined an all-male bowling team, lived as a man in a monastery for 3 weeks, and even dated women acting as a man. He/she writes a pretty interesting book about how women treat men, how women mistreat men, how women want to be treated by men, and how difficult she found it to reconcile the expectations that women have about men, how they want a man who's part brute and part geek.
Pick up the book. You'll enjoy the read and learn something about women most men don't know. It's titled, 'Self-Made Man,' and here's a little from Norah/Ned.

The rejection that Ned experiences in the dating scene had a powerful impact on Norah. "It's awful. I think most women don't have any idea how much guts it takes, how much emotional energy and confidence it takes to approach a woman," she says. "Men need ego because they don't get to show weakness and they don't get to show need, they have to compensate for it by a sense of, I can do this, I'm entitled, because that's all they have."

While guys may appear brutish, undemonstrative and unfeeling on the surface, Vincent found that inside they're as victimized as women by their gender socialization, the "straitjacket of the male role." What's more, although it won't please many feminists, Vincent concludes that women, not men, actually call the shots, at least where hooking up is concerned.

When you see it from a guy's point of view, you really realize that, if nothing else, at the most basic sexual level, women can really take it or leave it most of the time," she says. "Just that aspect alone already gives us a leg up because we get to choose; we get to say, I'll take you but I won't take you. That's a lot of power."

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Wherefore art thou Bornyo?

j/k

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Sometimes it's better to cut your losses.

Peace lovin' Donny Osmond.

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Bornyo is quite right - don't become a babbling brook. She will already know you are interested, this will just make you look bad. Plus, if I am in hearing distance, I will be annoyed.

In the end, you make your own luck. You may feel like you have a bad approach, but it gives you a better chance than never approaching. Don't be rude and don't be more glib than you can (actually) pull off.

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I know that I sound a little gruff on the board, but hey, when I'm out screwing around, it's a whole lotta fun! And yeah, I get my ass dogged too sometimes - I just think of it as being for the better

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(She'll make that decision on her own, without much help from you.)

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2. Make eye contact. Smile. Not the creepy baby-killer smile, the other one. No, not the "put me in a padded room" one, either. Like you're a happy person. But not too happy, and not on drugs.

3. Say "hi".

4. Body language and/or a stern "no" (or
"I'm married" or "I'm gay" or what have you) should clue you in as to whether to waste your time pursuing further conversation.

5. Watch / read the news and read books and talk to other guys about things other than pussy and sports (you know, like history, religion, philosophy, science, current events that you just learned about from watching / reading the news), so you'll have interesting things to talk about other than "I really just want to fuck, can we skip this part?"

Becoming a proficient conversationist (no, not conservationist, you right wing freak, cobalt ain't sneaking nothing subliminal in here) is a skill that only gets better with practice.

You'll learn the ebbs and flows of conversation, and once you do, you'll be a natural to talk to anyone, anywhere, about anything, whether the cops, on a job interview, God on Judgment Day, whatever. And you'll probably learn to enjoy it along the way.

But most of all, relax. Have fun. Don't take rejection personally, or if it happens all the time, check your pits and then check that smile in the mirror. See, now that's just creepy. No, now you look like a beauty pageant contestant. Natural, go for natural.

And don't forget the beer.

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"Vegetarianism for me is about saying ‘yes’ to things - even meat." - Coupling

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I apologize, seriouspervert, for participating in the hijacking of your thread, but I think you know what you gotta do, if you just dig deep. No one can help you but you. It's a stark and intimidating truth, but there it is.

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ultimately, you'll have to change teams. guys are much easier to talk to anyway.

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Maybe the problem starts with being too goal-directed. ("What magic words can I say to eventually get this woman to fuck me?")

Or because the potential conversation is thought of as a poll about your self-worth. ("If she doesn't want to talk to me, I guess that means I'm not handsome enough, smart enough, charming enough.")

Or because you exaggerate your control over situations. ("If I say the exactly the right things, she'll like me; if I don't, she won't.")

As opposed to:

"Hmmm. This babe is really cute! I wonder if she might be fun to hang out with? Let me shoot the bull with her for awhile and find out."

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Edited by - bob on 8/20/2006 12:25:23 PM

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Did I really type all that before? You know, I'm really not that locquacious in real life. I just like the way it feels when I type words like 'locquacious'. I hope I spelled it right.

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I like talking to strippers, but only if they're naked and I'm not, and they'll let me put my feet up on them and set my drink on their haunches and read the paper while I do.

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You're firing on all four cylinders today, dude.

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