Reviewers Recommend Hot Wives 8, The - review by Captain Jack Director: Mike Quasar Starring: Van Wylde, Jay Smooth, Codey Steele, Ella Reese, Charlotte Sins, Freya Parker, Melissa Stratton. Read review
American women are great. I've lived here all my life and American women in porn constitute most of the women in porn that I've seen. But lately, I've gotten kind of bored with women from the US. Maybe it's just because I'm jaded and have seen the same people over and over again, but even most of the new American girls don't do anything for me. Sure, I'll always have my favorites that reach deep inside of me for whatever reason that I like them: Stoya, VJ, Gia Jordan, et al. All 3 are beautiful women, and intermindintly, others move into my scope of view, but for the most part, I'm all Americaned Out. When I look at anything Euro/Russian-based: Rocco's stuff, Asshole Fever, DP Fanatics, ASScore, 21st Sextury, and such I am filled with an awe of how beautiful the women are. American women are beautiful, but to me, Euro/Russian women are on another level. It's kind of like comparing standard definition to to HD: Yes, SD is ok but once you see HD, SD is just not the same. It's like that with women in a way. If you check out any of the 'Nude' photography that's out there that isn't American-based, like Hegre, MetArt, etc, you see a totally different type of look, physically, than you see with American women. It's like when people ask for ID's on here, sometimes you can just look at the girl and tell she's Euro/Russian. Maybe it's because of a decreased number of tattoos and implants and piercings, but you can just tell that they're not from the US. Physically, the girls are in much different shape. The American girls range in all sizes: BBW --> Anorexic. There's a few that look beautiful naturally: they are in shape, aren't too skinny or fat, and are just beautiful. But the Euro/Russian women tend to be in better shape, are skinnier yet not anorexic, look healthier all around, and appear to take better care of themselves. Case in point: I just looked at some nude shots on Hegre - I was literally blown away by this woman. She was just lying on a bed with her legs in the air...nothing super erotic, no DPs or bukkakes or anything, just nude. To me that picture was more aesthetically pleasing than a lot of US porn that I've seen in years. It was like a paradigm shift in a way, even though deep down I've thought this for a while, just beneath the surface I guess. You could almost see the woman's abs as they were flexed and she had perfect skin tone and musclature. You could see hips and ribs, but not in an obtrusive or nasty looking way (to me at least). It just seemed like a more natural and pleasing view of the human body than big implants and tattoos and the moreso out of shape way that some girls from around here tend to look. I love big boobs and tattoos, it's just a nice change of pace to see what women looked like centuries ago, when there was no McDonalds and cosmetic surgery. Sure, not all of the women were beautiful, but the ones that were just give you some kind of primal feeling in your gut that THIS is what women are supposed to look like...it's a classical human form, to me at least. Now again, I love American women. I'd have to since I'm in America. There's beauties here that give you the "primal gut feeling" that are aesthetically pleasing, but there's just more of them in Euro/Russian vids/pics. Maybe it's the gluttony and destructive nature of the American lifestyle, the prevelance of fast food and no exercise. I don't know. But there's nothing to me like a Venusian beauty who is proportioned right and looks like a work of art, rather than a cartoon version of the human form. I don't know what I like about it, but I do. A lot. It's almost as if there's more of an awe and a mental stimulation when you look at that stuff versus the US porn/nudes out there. This isn't meant to sound negative or condescending in any way towards US women. Again, I love them, but there's some kind of classical attraction I have to women who aren't from the US. It's like comparing apples to oranges in a way, but I get more enjoyment out of Euro/Russian nudes than I do out of hardcore US pornography. It's a whole different type of enjoyment. Feel free to flame away since I know this probably ruffled some peoples feathers. I never write posts that are this wordy so if you read it, thanks. I'd like to know what others think about this even if it's contrary to what I think. That's the beauty of conversation. Flame away guys.
I'm a bigger fan of American girls that's for sure! I mean my top 10 favorite pornstars only have American girls on the list ever since Sandra Romain retired.
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Posted - May 30 2009 : 5:39AM
This passage seems a little strange. I didn't know you were a world class athlete that is in impeccable shape and eats totally clean. Yet you are complaining about the diet and exercise level of american girls. It just strikes me as a bit on the disingenous side. But that's just me.
Oops, I left Kerry Lou logged in on my comp and posted under her name! My fault.....lol
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Posted - May 30 2009 : 6:54AM
I do agree that most of the upper level European girls are much more beautiful than American girls, but there is a coldness to the performances of these Europeans that I can't get past. It makes for great circus watching them get ravished by the Eurostuds, but it never hits the spot like good American porn scenes do. Maybe I'm just more tuned into our hodgepodge culture, but there is a lot more variety to American porn. The girls here know what American consumers want and expect from porn. It's all fake, but at least it has the illusion of desire when it's done right. To be honest, American and European porn has bored the shit out of me lately. I'm all about Australian porn. I will never understand or like Japanese porn, even if many of the Japanese women are super fucking beautiful.
I think the quality of the nude photography you mentioned is better - more carefully crafted to pay homage to beauty and that makes a big and welcome difference for me.
I completely agree that European women are hotter,and it's not just in porn either.When I went to Prague,I saw unbelievably hot girls everywhere.It was incredible.
If you believe that European women in porn are more beautiful than their American counterparts then I suspect that you've only been exposed to a very small slice of Euro-porn.As Speelie was fond of pointing out, this is largely due to the nature of European porn. Unlike Chatsworth, where, for better or worse, everybody is one big family, women in Europe often don't know anybody else on the set, and may not even speak the same language as the other performers or the crew. You find much more open performances in Euro porn when the people are all from the same place and/or know each other better.
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Posted - May 30 2009 : 2:45PM
Bingo. And I think that the number of truly gorgeous Eastern European women who do hardcore porn is nowhere near as high as it was a few years ago; you see a lot more trashy, coarse street hooker types than Amazink Jane Durlinks, Wiskas, Monica Sweethearts, etc., in most of the movies nowadays. Plus, if our economy goes deeper into the crapper, our Pretty Girl Desperation Index may rise to the point that more of our home-grown 10's will start doing porn. So, eventually, a transnational equilibrium of porn babe hotness will be reached.Abby Winters? What other Australian porn is there?
To explain further, I realize and have noticed that euro shoots as Chode mentioned are hotter/harder than those of their American peers, but they just seem so much more impersonal. I'm sure the girls not speaking good english has a lot to do with it.
I don't watch SNL anymore but has Lonely Island's "I'm on a Boat" ever actually been featured on the show? Anyway... The more porn you watch, the more you'll realize your tastes will ebb and flow, go up and down and take on all sorts of transformations. I'd say you're simply going through a phase. Everyone eventually needs change of pace and/or scenery. Foreign-shot productions provide this relatively easy. I experienced a short Euro girl phase, as well and it was because I also (temporarily) grew tired of all the fake tits and tats so girls like Angel Dark, Michelle Wild, Rita Faltoyano, Jane Darling, Sharka Blue, Laura Lion and the like appealed to me greatly. The movies of Roy Alexandre, Christophe Clark and other directors with similar subject matter became my comfort food. But eventually, you'll tire of that as well. And you'll come back "home." We'll be here waiting. Enjoy your "vacation."
I'm not convinced of that. I believe there are differences in the way porn is perceived in America versus other parts of the world as well. There's a harsh stigma that follows a girl around in America if she does porn and becomes widely recognizable. Every guy will sit around and beat off to her pictures on the internet and then talk trash about her if he ever sees her. I don't think that this is so much the case in other places. Americans can be real dickheads if they recognize a girl from porn. I've never been to Europe but I think sometimes, attitudes are more relaxed there and a girl is probably less likely to be hounded over it. So I think the kind of girl who is going to do porn in America is the type who just doesn't care what people think and that's fairly rare. She might be pretty or she might be average or plain. When choices are limited, it's going to be more mixed. I personally kind of like the average or plain girls. But in America, they often go on to get a bunch of cosmetic surgery that (frankly) doesn't help at all. They usually look OK (to my eyes) until something convinces them they don't look good enough. Edited by - randomprecision on 5/31/2009 12:22:40 AM
It was shown sometime earlier this season. It might have been when T-Pain was the musical guest. They played the edited version, of course.Thank you sir! :) Nice post too btw. Edited by - chodemasterj on 5/31/2009 12:42:46 AM
I hear ya Chode. When I went to the UK, I was in shock. Awe... and other words that are similar lol. I would definitely like to take a trip to Hungary, Russia and all these places women seem to good to be true. I'm a sucker for a non American accent.
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Posted - May 31 2009 : 2:12AM
I've noticed this, girls in Europe seem more reserved or even bored in the sex scene, partially they just don't overact as much as American girls but at the same time they don't really have anyone that I've seen with the vibe of Gianna, for instance. Harder but impersonal I understand but I don't get how a scene can be 'hotter' but impersonal. A sense of connection and intimacy (even if just well acted) in a scene is what makes it hot for me.
nice, i wasn't aware of that. Thanks Christian. I could only find one bad version of it on YouTube but it was still awesome nonetheless. Thanks for bringing that to my attention.
As I can't stand the overacting, this doesn't bother me so much. I think the Eurobabes (the better ones) have their own way of expressing themselves. It's more subtle than half an hour of constant screaming but it's more real and feels more connected (to me, anyway). If I can't believe what I'm seeing has any resemblance to how a real person might act while having sex, there's no connection no matter how many orgasms she pretends to have.
I live in the UK. Over the last 5 years we've had a huge influx of EE migrant workers. You can spot that the girls are EE from 100yards, they all have fantastic figures. I think it's because they were economicaly disadvantaged, compared to people in the west. They don't live on junk food, party every week, binge drink or take drugs. They don't sit watching tv, or on a pc all day for recreation, they play sports instead. Thier life style has been much healthier, much like that of a western one of the 1950's. Yeah EE girls, on average, are better looking than western ones, the phrase BBW has started to creep in much more here and women seem to think it's ok to be big waddling fatties!
just had a thought....well I've thought it before but i realized it was relevant to the discussion so I'll bring it up. do you think that the kinds/types of growth hormones in foods these days in America tend to make the women seem different between Euro/Russian and American? Like it makes them age faster, to an extent....
It could do, especially when combined with tanning tables, nose candy, partying, alcohol and lack of excerise. I recently saw a tv program, on the use of sunbeds. They reckoned for a 35-40 year old women, who had used them a lot, it would have aged her skin by 10 years!
Come on now, my friends! There are beautiful women from everywhere in the world! Americans are great, but so are Asians, Africans, Indians, Europeans, Latinos, Fillipinos, I agree that there are subtle, or even not so subtle differences, but we are all the sames species, so natuarally us perves are gonna want to bang all types of chicks. Here is my vote for diversity in porn chicks!
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Posted - May 31 2009 : 6:57AM
Another vote here for eurobabes. However, I also like to see girls acting in features, and so I lean towards the english-speaking features. I also like teens with a girl next door look - and its much easier for me to imagine an American girl living next door than a Ukrainian one.
I went through a phase where I was only watching Private movies for a year or two. I had gotten tired of the same old faces and / or themes in American movies. Now, I'm tired of Private, and I much prefer the American productions. Perhaps these things just go in phases with people.
I agree that this girl is strikingly "beautiful, firm-bodied, huge-titted," but Gentlehard could you name some scenes where she's "flirty, warm, eye-contacting, do-anything"? I've seen her in Teen Tryouts Audition 59, Cream Pie Orgy 9, and Stuff my Ass Full of Cum 12, all from Devils Film, and she seems completely uninterested, turned off, and uncharismatic in all these scenes.
Johnshaft wrote -- "I agree that this girl is strikingly "beautiful, firm-bodied, huge-titted," but Gentlehard could you name some scenes where she's "flirty, warm, eye-contacting, do-anything"? I've seen her in Teen Tryouts Audition 59, Cream Pie Orgy 9, and Stuff my Ass Full of Cum 12, all from Devils Film, and she seems completely uninterested, turned off, and uncharismatic in all these scenes." Mandi in I Wanna Buttfuck Your Daughter 4, one of the best fully-clothed, jerk-off-to scenes ever . . .
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Posted - Jun 1 2009 : 11:01AM
That theory has been floating around for a while. Most shampoos have female hormones in them, which is causing girls to fill out younger. I vaguely remember being 16 and we just didn't have girls who looked like Lindsay did at that age, or Milley Cyrus does now.
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Posted - Jun 1 2009 : 11:07AM
Much of the arguments against American porn here are exactly why I went the JAV route. It's not like I ENJOY the pixilation or dialogue in a language I don't understand. I went to JAV because it had what I wanted. Natural girls, few boob jobs and those that were out there were very well done. No tatts. No piercings. Hardly a dye job in their hair. Good camera work that virtually omits the male performer, and sex in natural positions, as opposed to hanging off a couch in what looks painful and uncomfortable. My problem is American porn changed. Not the girls. They are the result of it. We always hear how the girls rule, they have all the power. Bullshit. It's male-run. male-dominated, and when guys started putting their names on the movies, it was over. The girls just became orifaces.
Probably. I'm having my Private phase right now and really enjoying it. I love the girls and the general artful look of the movies, as well as the locations. I haven't stopped watching American porn, but I kind of limit myself to stuff like the Barely Legal stuff with somewhat natural looking girls, and to my favorite stars who are mostly natural or have some other aspect that I love. Edited by - JohnW on 6/1/2009 11:50:36 AM
^ I think you're probably right. There's been some good stuff from this studio over the years, but their Russia branch is putting out some seriously bad stuff right now. This one guy who performs in about half the scenes is seriously creepy - as in passive/agressive, plus he seems more interested in his own dick than in any of the girls he's supposed to be working with.
Hot Wives 8, The - review by Captain Jack
Posted - May 30 2009 : 4:57AM
