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Billy Bathgate
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Choooooooch!
507 Posts
7/02
Posted - Jan 14 2010 : 7:02AM
I currently use an EPSON CX4800 but it is dying. The Epson was just OK; the Lexmark before that was a piece of crap.
I have no problem upgrading from a dot-matrix to a laser if need be.
I use it for myself AND do tax returns for various people, so clear copies are essential. Faxing optional, scanning is an absolute must. My computer guy suggested an HP LASER.
Tax season is fast approaching; I need to make a move NOW !!
Your advice?????
RandomPrecision
Senior Member

Enjoy!
8175 Posts
3/06
Posted - Jan 14 2010 : 11:24AM
HP printers are OK. I have one. It's not a laser printer. It's inkjet. Quality seems good enough to me. The software is a little unwieldy but I've never seen a printer with good software.
Robert
Member

My past is a foreign country. Most things are different there, including word usage.
503 Posts
12/06
Posted - Jan 14 2010 : 2:01PM
A few years ago HP made a business model decision to become the best supplier of desktop printers. Both function and cost. I think they succeeded.
I used one of their ink jet printers to file my tax return (Turbo Tax) last year. Great job. Looked just like the IRS tax forms.
Don't know about the scanner function. Don't particular care for 'multi-function' devices. I have a separate scanner that works fine.
A bit OT, but I have a little software program (free version) that does an excellent job of converting scanned images of text into text files that can be opened and used by my word processor and text file editor programs.
Harri Patel
Senior Member

#SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele
5110 Posts
3/03
Posted - Jan 14 2010 : 3:10PM
All the consumer-grade machines, including HP, are now cheap plastic China-crap. Look at the price, and the warranty, and ask yourself if you'll be comfortable throwing the machine out when it stops working the day after the warranty expires and having to buy a new one, because it's likely that that's exactly what will happen.
Consider getting in touch with a business copier/office machines vendor, and price out a few commercial-grade printer/copier/fax/scanner units -- the kind they put in small offices. Even the smallest, most entry-level machine in this range -- such as one of the "Desktop" machines in Canon's ImageRunner line -- will be far more robust than anything you could get at Office Depot or Costco, will actually be repairable if something goes wrong with it, will have a feeder that actually works, won't constantly be getting paper jams, won't constantly be refusing to print until you run down to the store and buy a new $40 thimble-full of ink for it, and won't take up that much more space than a consumer-grade machine. Even a used, off-lease commercial unit will be more reliable than a consumer-grade one, and you'll probably be able to find a vendor that you can wheel and deal with if you call around enough.
LubeNLuv
Senior Member

1854 Posts
3/06
Posted - Jan 14 2010 : 4:43PM
I will never buy another Epson printer product ever again. I stayed with them since the 80's, moving with them into ink-jet and laser printers. But sometime around 2002 they made some engineering decisions with their inks to try and maximize their revenue stream and they lost me as a customer for life as a result.
HP's are hard to beat for the money, especially their inkjet all-in-ones. Get an all-in-one (fax/scanner/copier/printer) inkjet and you'll be happy for a long time to come. If you don't need the fax capabilities, take a look at the HP Photosmart C6380...currently rated a best buy by CNET and PC Magazine. I've heard good things about the Canon Pixmark printers as well, usually a little cheaper than the HP's, but the ink carts can be harder to find.
I just bought an HP OfficeJet Pro 8500 for my home office. Everyone in the family prints to it, faxes from it, runs network copies using it (converts anything scanned to PDF's on-the-fly also). Great machine for the money.

Edited by - lubenluv on 1/14/2010 4:46:46 PM

 
skronker
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Scopophiliac
9780 Posts
9/02
Posted - Jan 14 2010 : 7:03PM
I haven;t used a printer in several years. I refuse to use paper in business dealings. Not possible for everyone, I know. But in making this decision and sticking to it, I've saved a lot of money.
BYOB_Kenobi
Senior Member

“Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard
2684 Posts
8/09
Posted - Jan 14 2010 : 8:37PM
BillyB,
I've actually have had good experiences with HP laser printers (from SOHO entry level monochrome lasers to midrange monochrome lasers targeted for more volumes, all <$600) at work and educational institutions on reliability, production, and economic criteria for printing journal articles. I've personally used the HP LaserJet P1505 and many of the 2003-2006 models (the blockier ones, one step up from the personal entry monochrome laser) and all have had excellent results and satisfactory reliability (no failures).
My advice, if you want one step up from the entry level B/W lasers (e.g., LaserJet P1xxx models), go for the blockier (pic below) HP laser monochrome printers. On a personal note, Newegg customer reviews have helped me tremendously and actually have been pretty accurate in satisfaction.
Good luck.
(the blockier midrange models that I used and liked in the past tend to look like this, more expensive, but print a lot of pages fast)
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Edited by - BYOB_Kenobi on 1/14/2010 8:41:41 PM
Jordan1
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Fishing, a fun hobby!
490 Posts
7/08
Posted - Jan 14 2010 : 9:47PM
I finally was able to get in contact with my neighbor so I could relay the manufacturer and model of the printer to you. It was bought sometime shortly before Christmas.
Every year she makes a Christmas card and gives it to me. This time however, I immediately noticed that the card she printed out looked like store quality. She was surprised that I immediately noticed and then I asked if she bought a new printer. At first she tried to fool me into thinking she hadn't, but it didn't work.
Anyway, the one she has is a HP 6500 and she told me that it scans well also. The only thing I'm not sure about is whether or not it will shut down if it runs out of ink like my Canon does. That is one of the biggest bullshit functions in a consumer product I've ever seen.
Stopping the printing function from working is a good idea, but stopping the scanning from working seems like a bullshit ploy to force you to buy the ink.
Unfortunately, when I bought it 5 years ago, I wasn't aware of this until I ran out of ink. If I would have known this, I would have purchased a stand-alone scanner and printer.
At some point I may look into Harri's suggestion.
Billy Bathgate
Member

Choooooooch!
507 Posts
7/02
Posted - Jan 14 2010 : 9:53PM
Thanks boys and girls. I'm buying an HP. "Chuck" my computer guy endorses. Probably something on the cheap so I can just buy another one when in conks out in a year or two. Geez, two rounds of ink cartridges almost as much as the printer itself.
Robert
Member

My past is a foreign country. Most things are different there, including word usage.
503 Posts
12/06
Posted - Jan 15 2010 : 11:04AM
I agree with your approach. When the printer fails replace it.
BTW, the way to evaluate the 'cost' of a printer/cartridge/paper is the cost per printed page. An expensive (industrial strength) printer must print a lot of pages before the cost per page begins to come down to the cost per page of the so called entry level desk top models.
Harri Patel
Senior Member

#SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele
5110 Posts
3/03
Posted - Jan 15 2010 : 2:18PM
You have to factor in your own time and aggravation, though. Office machines, in general, Just Work, and will continue to do so for years. You spend a little time at the beginning setting it up and learning its particular command set, but after that, it's basically a toaster: you don't have to think about it, you don't have to worry about it; all you have to do is put bread (paper) in it.
Home machines Just Work Sometimes -- usually at the least important time. I can't even begin to tell you the amount of time I've wasted trying to accomplish simple tasks like printing an envelope, and the thing decides it's Tuesday, so it's not going to feed envelopes without mangling them today. Or you're trying to get something out the door, and the rip-off color ink cartridge that you just bought a week ago suddenly won't print anything that's blue. It's always something. You waste your time and tear your hair out over this bullshit; then you also have to figure in the fact that you have to spend more time setting up and learning a new machine every year. And you spend more time dealing with the usually-Mickey Mouse fax/scan capabilities and software of the home machines.
And if you have a problem with a commercial machine, you pick up the phone and talk to your rep at the vendor. Home machine? Have fun standing in the return line at Costco, chump.
RandomPrecision
Senior Member

Enjoy!
8175 Posts
3/06
Posted - Jan 15 2010 : 7:54PM
My biggest problem with printers is I hardly ever use them. It's hard to justify spending much when I might only use it a few times a year. And even then, I refrain from using it even when I'd like to because the ink is so damn expensive.
LubeNLuv
Senior Member

1854 Posts
3/06
Posted - Jan 15 2010 : 8:35PM
I wish to god I could convince everyone I do business with to follow this guideline. But until courts uphold verbal contracts, ratified via email and faxed signatures, are binding, I can't. I've tried. It just isn't working.
We have gone entirely paperless with our home finances, however. All bills are online. All payments are bank-to-bank transfers. Even my kids now have all their textbooks online and can submit their homework online (using Word or OpenOffice formatted documents). So there is progress. But the paperless world has thus far escaped me.
I'm curious as to the nature of your business dealings and how you've been able to eliminate paper. That seems like a holy grail....care to share?
RandomPrecision
Senior Member

Enjoy!
8175 Posts
3/06
Posted - Jan 15 2010 : 10:07PM
^ With a name like Skronker, what kind of business deals do you think he's doing?
LubeNLuv
Senior Member

1854 Posts
3/06
Posted - Jan 15 2010 : 11:00PM
Good question.
Where I hail from, a skronker is a term used to define a skipping stone that sails a long ways between skips. By the same token, it is also used in a complimentary fashion for someone who can perform something gracefully and without disturbing something else. I've heard it used in pool halls up here when someone performs a nice trick move around one ball to get to another cleanly.
I've also heard it used in association with sour notes from a musician.
So yeah....now I'm really curious.
 
Harri Patel
Senior Member

#SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele
5110 Posts
3/03
Posted - Jan 16 2010 : 1:32AM
Ironically, he's an ink-stained wretch.
Bill All-Star Supporter
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5334 Posts
6/00
Posted - Jan 16 2010 : 11:00AM
Ironically, he's a writer. He's written two editions of a book and has written for many magazines and newspapers.
Although the submissions of articles and books is perfect for electronic communication, eventually, much of his writing eventually makes it to a paper format (although, I would imagine, there is a lot that is disseminated via the Internet these days).
Edited by - Bill on 1/16/2010 11:01:58 AM



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