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Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 9 2007 : 2:54AM
My wife's computer is acting up when she's surfing or streaming. After a certain period of time she gets the "Firefox cannot find server" message. The same thing happens when she's using Internet Explorer. It doesn't matter which website she's trying to connect to -- her browser can't find any of them. After about half an hour of downtime, she can start surfing/streaming again, but the error recurs.
--It's not a connection problem, because the signal is strong.
--Her cache is cleaned regularly. That doesn't seem to help.
It feels like some kind of "capacity" issue, but I can't manage to troubleshoot it. I can't find anything relevant on the web.
Any ideas?
HarryWild
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Make me believe
622 Posts
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Posted - Dec 9 2007 : 3:54AM
Usually when your internet brower gives that message: "that it cannot locate the server" - it is because you are disonnected to the internet at that point in time. Your internet service provider(ISP) has either having problems with bandwidth or the trouble is located in between your ISP and your computer connection like bad phone lines or cable lines.
Hope this helps! Hopefully it is a cable or line that is not fully plug in and so it is loose and causing this behavior! Otherwise call your ISP for help!
licker
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Heretic, Iconoclast, Skeptic
1141 Posts
8/03
Posted - Dec 9 2007 : 4:32AM
Can other computers on the same connection still get to the site? If so, it may be a TCP/IP configuration problem in her own computer, or a switching/routing issue on your LAN.
If all computers on the link are affected, but she has a good connection to her ISP, it is most likely that the ISP has upstream internet connection problems. If this is so, she will probably be able to see the ISP's own server (usage meter, web mail etc.) but nothing on the wider internet.
If she browses via a proxy server, try changing her browser settings to use "direct internet access" instead, as it may be a capacity or bandwidth problem on the ISP's proxy server.
Good luck.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 9 2007 : 12:15PM
Yes. My computer isn't encountering any problems.
This is our set-up:
My computer is connected directly to the internet via ethernet cable -> modem -> DSL line.
Her computer is connected to the same modem through a wireless connection.
Her signal strength is excellent. During the time (15 to 30 minutes) before she receives the error message, she has fast access to all websites and internet content. Even after she's received the error message, her signal strength remains strong and undiminished.
I have one big clue that I can't interpret. The other day I tried to download a Norton update on her computer. The complete download was 64 MB. It was downloading quickly until I hit 51 megabytes. Then everything stopped, and I received the error message. I cleaned out the cache for the umpteenth and tried once again to connect to the Norton site and download the update, with the exact same result. After 51 MB were downloaded, the browser froze and the error message popped up.
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Edited by - bob on 12/10/2007 10:43:19 PM
RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
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Posted - Dec 10 2007 : 10:07PM
Is she using Vista or what? It seems like Vista has some kind of issue with LAN connections. I'm a big dummy so I couldn't even begin to tell you what it is. Every time I use the sleep function (rather than shutting down), when I wake the computer up and try to surf to a web site, I imediately lose my connection and have to do the diagnose/repair thing and reset the local area connection (whatever the hell that means). After that, it works fine. If I shut my computer down completely, no problems when I come back and boot up. Anyway, Vista is all kinds of picky with LAN and DSL connections. When I was using XP, I never had problems with DSL.
 
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 10 2007 : 10:42PM
RP --
She's using XP on her computer, so Vista isn't the problem.
conquistador
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Hellhamster.
2947 Posts
10/03
Posted - Dec 10 2007 : 10:51PM
Have you run spyware/malware/etc scans yet. I know you probably thought of it but it is worth asking.
conquistador
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Hellhamster.
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Posted - Dec 10 2007 : 10:52PM
There is a whole thread somewhere (sorry I am no help with links tonight Bob, I apologizer, I try to be very good usually.) that talks about cleaning out a windows machine of potential junk.
RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
8175 Posts
3/06
Posted - Dec 10 2007 : 10:57PM
Have you tried searching for a new driver for the NIC? I doubt that's the problem but I always try that first. Is system restore turned on? Maybe you could try and restore back to before the problem started?
K
Smitten Kitten

Cloud 9
530 Posts
2/06
Posted - Dec 11 2007 : 2:28AM
Could have something to do with Windows Zero Configuration (sounds ever so helpful, no?).
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Bornyo
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803 Posts
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Posted - Dec 11 2007 : 4:56PM
From K's link:
This sounds like it could be it.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 11 2007 : 8:20PM
^^^
Unfortunately, that isn't the problem. I had already disabled 802.1X authentication.
I don't think it's a connection problem. Even when the browser is frozen (and both IE and Firefox are frozen/unfrozen at the same time), the computer reports that it's connected to our wireless network and that the signal strength is strong.
It seems as if the computer's browser function is itself hitting some kind of capacity ceiling in terms of packets received. Is that even possible?
I'm beginning to wonder whether an XP Repair Install is my only hope. Either that, or sepuku. [xx)]
jayo All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 11 2007 : 8:53PM
My parents had a very similar problem, but they had dial-up. It was maddening. The fix ended up being when they went to DSL, so I always figured it was some goofiness in the dialup connection.
I've pretty much given up trying to diagnose problems in Windows/Explorer. I've had my own problem (in another thread) and I can't get anywhere with it. MS "diagnostic"s are about as good as its security.
Harri Patel
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#SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele
5110 Posts
3/03
Posted - Dec 11 2007 : 10:05PM
What creates the wireless connection? Do you have a router? When the problem starts occurring, does resetting or unplugging/plugging back in the router fix it? Does she use her computer anywhere else? Does she have problems there as well?
K
Smitten Kitten

Cloud 9
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Posted - Dec 12 2007 : 3:54AM
When you say "frozen", do you mean that the browser windows freeze up, or just that they can't access the web?
If it's the latter - and possibly even in some cases if it's the former, as Windows can get into quite a hissy fit when its network goes down - it may well have something to do with Wireless Zero Configuration.
I've known others who've experienced similar problems.
Occasionally, even though there's already a perfectly stable connection, our promiscuous friend, WZC, thinks it jolly good sport to sneak around, looking for other wireless networks to pounce upon.
Windows still claims to maintain a strong connection to the old network, and the connection usually comes back again 2-3 minutes later.
If wifey only ever connects to your home network, one solution would, IIRC, be to simply disable the WZC service. (I'm posting this from a phone, so you'll have to Google around to find a how-to.)
If she webs around, you might try creating the two batch files mentioned in the link.
 
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 12 2007 : 11:50AM
The connection is created by a PCI wireless adapter transmitting to a DSL-based 2WIRE modem. No router. Resetting and unplugging/plugging don't help. It's a desktop computer, so she never goes anywhere else. She uses a WiFi connection because an ethernet cable would be impractical given the location of her computer relative to the where the modem is.
I should add that she had no problems for over a year with the current set-up . This problem popped up very recently, which is what makes it so strange.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 12 2007 : 11:54AM
Just that she can't access the web.
It's taking 15-20 minutes in our case.
I know how to do this. I'll give it a try and report back. Thanks!
Bornyo
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Posted - Dec 12 2007 : 12:23PM
Bob it's possible her wireless card is intermittently bad even though it says otherwise. It wouldn't be the first time.
Pick up a cheap USB network "card" and try it- they're about the size of a thumbdrive and you can always use it on something else later.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 12 2007 : 5:14PM
I tried this. No dice.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 12 2007 : 5:15PM
I see a trip to Fry's Electronics in my near future.
conquistador
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Hellhamster.
2947 Posts
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Posted - Dec 12 2007 : 5:21PM
Did you drive cleansing?
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 12 2007 : 9:16PM
^^^
Yep.
conquistador
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Hellhamster.
2947 Posts
10/03
Posted - Dec 12 2007 : 9:29PM
are you ready to clean install windows?
Harri Patel
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#SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele
5110 Posts
3/03
Posted - Dec 12 2007 : 10:26PM
Get somebody with a laptop to come over and try to connect wirelessly and see if they have the same problem. If so, then the 2wire is probably crapping out.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 12 2007 : 11:10PM
^^^
Tried that. The laptop had no trouble connecting. It's not the modem.
It may be the WiFi card. It may be something with the OS.
I'm going to try Bornyo's suggestion first. If that craps out, I'll try a Windows repair install. If that craps out, I'll do a clean Windows install.
Thanks for all your help! I'll keep you posted.
 
jayo All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 13 2007 : 12:21AM
One last thing to try before you go nucular on it.
There are utilties that "optimize" the connections to the net for Broadband, dialup, etc. Perhaps one of the more arcane settings got hosed? If you can get a freeware or shareware-trial utility, you might be able to "fix" the bad setting.
Just a thought.
conquistador
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Hellhamster.
2947 Posts
10/03
Posted - Dec 13 2007 : 7:28AM
Best computer advice ever: flatten and rebuild.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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5516 Posts
3/03
Posted - Dec 17 2007 : 2:14AM
Here's how I fixed my problem:
Fuck WiFi.
I have two phone lines in my home, so I added a DSL account to the second line. We had an extra modem laying around, so I didn't have to pay for that. Now my wife has her own direct internet connection. She's thrilled. I'm thrilled.
Fuck WiFi.



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