50 to 1 was a major letdown. I can clearly see why the movie is so much cheaper for Brandon to produce. 80% of the girls are butt-ass ugly. Crack addicted, saggy titties, fried hair dogs...
With the exception of the stars (Monica, Karina, Bianca, etc) the girls were just skanky. Sometimes less is more. Getting 50 different chicks to suck your cock is an accomplishment in itself, but next time Brandon should get some girls that don't look like they came straight from the methadone clinic.
I don't mean to disrespect Brandon, b/c I love the AGSOI series, Intensities, and Baker's Dozen, etc...and I will continue to buy those movies. I just hope this series doesn't replace AGSOI.
I would love to hear other opinions from those who have seen this movie.
Plus AGSOI, should be a better line for BI, I mean man take a hint, in the last wek like eight people have started threads or specifically mentioned their desire for that project to be cont'd. I saw part of 50 on 1, some funky bitches, thats for sho. Also, AGSOI is a cathier name and showcases his name which is essentially his brand.
-Doyle
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Posted - Feb 4 2006 : 12:15PM
I thought the movie was OK. However, with every scene (and there are alot of them) being pretty much the same, the movie does get monotonous after a while, which is why I was never able to watch the whole movie in its entirety without having to fast-forward through most of it. As for the girls' appearances, Brandon himself said that he was going for the young, natural look, and not the made-up artificial pornstar look. Depending on your preference, that could either be a good or a bad thing. Basically, I had no problem with the movie, I just wish the scenes had a bit more variety among them.
The lack of variety didn't bother me at all. I LOVE young, non-pornstar types. For example, Jackie Ashe in AGSOI blew me away. She doesn't look like a pornstar at all, she looks like a college freshman. But she is pretty and innocent looking. You cannot say that the no-names in 50-1 were even in her league. Makenzie Wilson was an exception, and so was Jamie Huxley. There were maybe 3 or 4 more that were strokeable, not including the established starts. But that was it.
I think it's a little superficial to use only good looking girls, and Brandon is one of those guys who seem to have a genuine interest in the girls and always find something interesting about them, he don't want them to be one dimensional porn characters. If I want to watch really beautiful girls I buy a fashion magazine.
can someone sum up the movie concept in 50 to 1 quick please I know it sounds like a dumb question. I have seen ASOI and Baker's
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Posted - Feb 4 2006 : 1:47PM
phatbasey wroteBasically, the movie has 50 scenes with 50 different girls all involved in quickie scenes with Brandon. The settings all take place in the same officeroom and there is alot of POV action. Some of the scenes are all BJ, while some have fucking. Plus, all the girls swallow at the end. That pretty much sums it up.
Let me get this straight. You think it is superficial if a director chooses only good looking women to put in his movies? Are you serious? Porn is supposed to be about fantasy, having hot babes doing crazy ass shit. Look, I'm not into fake boobs, tons of makeup, b/s porn like Vivid puts out. I prefer girls like Teagan, Keri Sable, Jackie Ashe, etc...But most of the girls in this movie were train wrecks.
I really like 50 To 1.I didn't expect every girl to be top notch,but there were a few nice surprises in there,including some girls I haven't seen before or since.I like the concept of some of the girls in one of their first scenes,swallowing a load from a guy they just met shortly before the scene.There's a more intimate feeling to it than,say AGSOI or Baker's Dozen.It's just a different style than we're used to seeing from Brandon.I also like the foot fetish moments in some of the scenes.I can see how it's not for everybody,though.
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Posted - Feb 5 2006 : 12:26AM
I know at one point Brandon said that he likes women to look normal, and not dolled up in his films.
Personally, average women don't do it for me. I like women that are in shape and take time to look good not only for themselves, but for those who may be admiring from a far.
At the same time, it would be hard, not to mention expensive to assemble a cast of 50 fine females.
Brandon is hella cool, and if he ever rushes through me town we can fire up the grill, but casting in his titles never holds my attention.
That said people go nuts for his releases, so just goes to show that I'm in the minority.
I am sorry you don't like the girls...or the methadone clinic where I shot most of the scenes.
To be honest, I enjoy meeting new girls. I don't expect greatness. They don't expect much from me, either. Each girl has a story to tell which, for me, is infinitely more interesting than the sex act.
I genuinely enjoy the interviews of each girl and the facets of their personalities that get revealed.
Yes, porn is about fantasy. If yours involves goddesses beyond reproach, avoid this title (and series) at all costs. If, on the other hand, your fantasy involves women who resemble those who are at malls, etc., then check it out.
Sorry that it seems repetitive. I try to make the interviews different with each girl. Maybe I should just try the "crawl up stairs and play with dildos before 2 naked guys come in" approach. Better?
Last time I looked at real women on the street, none were wearing fake eyelashes with heavy makeup and neon fishnet stockings, etc. Reality can be daunting. Accept it or go into your own fantasy world.
Back in the late 80's I had a HUGE crush on Stacy Donovan. Why? Because she looked like a real girl, not some goddess that I could not speak to.
Porn has many flavors. If you don't like mine, try elsewhere. Seriously.
Volume 2 and 3 are similar to the first one, except that they are better, in my opinion. Time will tell, but I am betting tens of thousands on my gut.
I'm glad for this thread. I probably saw this title and didn't bother to click it because I assumed it was some kind of crazy gangbang, which I wouldn't be interested in. Now I know, because of my strange preferences, that I should definitely check it out.
I wonder if this has happened to others? This might not be the best title for the series, now that so many of us browse online and not in a real store.
Obibong: I sincerely hope you do take the time to check out this release. I also hope you consider taking the time after you have seen it to put some comments on this board. Good or bad, a series that is unique like this one deserves to be discussed.
Yes, I could have got locations each time I shot. I also could have paid for makeup artists and wardrobe. Guess what? It wouldn't even resembe what it is....a real look at girls starting out in the business.
Kaci Star did THROATGAGGERS #10 today for Red Light District. She did great and swallowed 4 loads. She did a strong scene and gave incredible energy throughout. Now, if you want to see Kaci's first swallow scene ever, you will have to watch 50 to 1 #2 on March 9th. Watching her lose her cum swallowing virginity on camera is a special thing. No, it's not going to win any awards, but it's a real moment. That's something that's needed more in this industry, where girls do their 7th DP in as many days.
Ed Powers is in the 300's of his Debutantes series. Reality porn at its best. Now, instead of 5 or 6 girls, you get 50. They all swallow. They don't bullshit during the interviews and you learn a little bit about what a non-pro, non-jaded girl is thinking minutes before eating cum from a guy she just met.
That may not be a turn-on for some, but I am so looking forward to hitting volume 300 of 50 to 1. Support this series and I promise you I'll keep doing my best to get to that number.
50 to 1 #2 has close to 7 hours of original viewing material for less than $20 through adt affiliate stores. Say whatever you want but nothing compares value-wise.
I bought 50 to 1 and thought it was awesome. The girls were all cute and natural looking, as if they just walked in off the street. Also great butt tease, which is what I look for. Vanilla Sky looked completely different without the heavy make up, very pretty. Also, no gross gargling, spitting, or gagging. Very realistic stuff.
Although I do not like Swallowing movies much I agree 1000% with Brandon's point and I am not kissing his ass. I am going to start a new thread concerning "normal looking girls vs porn superstars".
I also think that a series like AGSOI would have been a huge seller if it had appealed more to the "normal" buyer, instead of the gag-puke-choke-drool circus crowd. I bought one, but never went back.
Thanks for responding. I truly believe you, and many others, are missing my original point. The location (your office?) where the scenes were filmed was fine. The lack of makeup, fishnet stockings, sexy lingere, etc...was not a problem either. I really believe less is more, and I like most of your films. I even enjoyed your Q&A with the girls before the scenes.
But the vast majority of the girls in 50-1 (that weren't established vets of porn) were 3's and 4's. Yes there were a few surprises, and I mentioned them earlier. But most of the girls have no chance of making it in the biz because they are just too damn ugly.
I wish you the best with this series, and I agree that there is a lot of value if you base a film on the number of performers and cumshots. But based on the looks of the women, I will stick with NCDA, DTH or AGSOI!
God hates us all, you know it's true, God hates this place. - Slayer 1726 Posts 10/03
Posted - Feb 5 2006 : 2:04PM
I don't think anyone in that flick was ugly, being "a 3 or a 4" doesn't make you ugly. So with that, I'd rather have "a 3 or a 4" with energy/personality than a 9 or 10 with nothing - example, most contract girls.
I really liked the flick and it was exactly what I was expecting. As I stated in my review, it felt like one big long BTS movie - and BTS are something I really like. Brandon, I can only HOPE you get to volume 300.... I mean shit, that's 15,000 girls!
P.S. Brandon, I agree to a point about the Dirty Debutantes, it's reality porn, but Ed is the main character. I have nothing against the guy outside of he REALLY creeps me out [xx)]
You're kidding, right? How many of the 50 girls did you find attractive, not including the pornstars? I thought there were maybe 4 or 5 new faces that were strokeable.
To answer your question, on Disc 2 there was a little mouse who referred to herself as a "frat mattress". She was a snaggletoothed stripper from Carolina. Cute little bod, but the face. No thanks.
On Disc 1 towards the end, there was a saggy titted broad who appeared to be in her mid to late 30's. Argh. And of course the really muscular and leather faced tanning bed beauty who preceded her looked great while my DVD player was FF'd through her scene. But upon pushing the play button, things went downhill fast.
To each his own. I hope you found all of the girls attractive. More power to ya!
dplovr: Many of the most popular girls look barely average imo... but since they often perform way better they still get lots of jobs and lots of fans. I don't care if a girl takes her money to pay the rent, buy diamonds, clothes, booze, weed and/or heroin as long as she's putting it down in front of the camera. So they all deserve a chance I think... one thing is certain though - there's more good looking girls than guys in porn...
You can't expect a movie with 50 girls to be crammed with what I assume must be much more expensive girls, like Keri Sable...
Going in, I know not all the girls are going to be hotties. I like to see girls that look like they could be my nieghbors. What I don't like is to see girls that look like they just got done doing a hit. I don't know what the girls do and don't do before they get to the shoot, and I'm sure Brandon doesn't either, but it's pretty obvious that some of the girls, not all, looked strung out. I usually just skip to the next girl. Other then that, Brandon, great job on all your releases.
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Eric381 Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 5 2006 : 7:19PM
Bran,
I thought the methadone clinic was just fine dammit! I say to mix things up next time, go with a senior home to give this guy the variety he seeks.
That said, no different than yours or many other directors, I always ENJOY the BTS scenes, which indeed includes lots of dialogue. That said, so far I've enjoyed the first installment of this movie. The insight into each girl was far better than the sex itself, but I can't make an overwhelming complaint about the movie thus far.
If you enjoy a title, praise it...if you don't care for it, there's no need to trash the talent or the directors for it. For some reason, I thought that was against forum guidelines?
Betting with one's gut can be costly, for certain. But at least you enjoy the work you're doing! I'm a firm believer in only doing a job if you're happy with it.
The movie reminds of websites like First Time Auditions, etc...very pro-am, but with a professional director, and not some shithead just running a website. Hopefully, some of these newbies will stick around! And without sounding queer, Brandon...dude, you're ALOT better looking than Ed Powers, who should have handed down the "debutante" crown by now.
PL: On the same level of potential starlets, Brandon would have to go 30-40 editions of "50-to-1", but hopefully before he opts to add a ponytail & potbelly to his appearance. I don't think that's an unreasonable number given his momentum with #2 and #3 already on the books!
dplover: All I can ask is, if these girls are so butt-ugly...what are you waking up to each morning (if self-animate, surely it doesn't wear makeup in bed)? Do you think the contract girls look "all that" without all the glitz & glamour before each scene? Something tells me you wouldn't make very good male talent if you couldn't "keep it up(hill)" while FF'ing thru a 3-4 minute scene. [:p)]
I reviewed it just recently, and I'd also agree that there are a lot of girls across the two discs that I have no interest in ever seeing again. Ever. Please.
However, naming which ones people find "ugly" really doesn't achieve anything or have much of a place here. Especially when you bear in mind that physical attractiveness is a matter if personal taste.
I also mentioned in the review that I got more out of the disc as something interesting to watch than as a maturbatory aid. I think the more telling thing about the number of sub-par girls in 50 to 1 is in showing the number of filler scenes in the current massive spate of gonzo/wall-to-wall releases. Though people don't seem to complain about the same girls nearly as much when they're heavily made up and taking two dicks up the butt...
I reviewed it just recently, and I'd also agree that there are a lot of girls across the two discs that I have no interest in ever seeing again. Ever. Please.
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Posted - Feb 5 2006 : 10:42PM
I agree with dplovr, that 50 to 1 was a big letdown for the reasons he mentioned. But I like the concept and will be curious to see how it evolves.
*hands dplovr a flame shield for all the B. Iron fanboys here on adt. . .
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Pocketcomb_Pimp Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 5 2006 : 10:57PM
Rock,
Hopefully you ain't salty. I think you are a great tallent, I was just making refference to an older exchange between you and another guy. I agree that fishnets and fake eyelashes are a bit much and if both of those were removed from porn you'd never hear me complain.
Porn is shot in LA and we all know that LA women raise the bar on domestic beauty. Hell even Mix A Lot said "LA Face with an Oakland Booty"
I ain't slammin you at all, I'm just saying that a pretty face with good hair and makeup go a long way. Some of the women I've seen in your productions look underproduced if you know what I meen.
It's your product, and my guess is it's selling. Truth be told I'm irritated because I love your work, but haven't seen anything lately due to the collective appearance of the female cast.
Chuuuuch!
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Eric381 Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 5 2006 : 11:09PM
Yeah, but you failed to quote the part where Scipio noted:
"I also mentioned in the review that I got more out of the disc as something interesting to watch than as a maturbatory aid."
That is tell-tale enough that there is just different types of porn. Some like the TonyC style of thinking - slow & passionate - some like the details, regardless how pretty or "ugly" they are.
dplovr: The "frat mattress" you referred to is none other than a budding Sierra Sinn when she first got into the business. I am proud to have shot her early on and would love to shoot her again for another line suck as BAKER'S DOZEN. Like all girls, she has refined her performances and is probably more polished now than when my scene with her was shot. I STILL like mine if only because it captured something you cannot capture anymore...her wide-eyed innocense at discovering what she is getting into.
Certain people would be happy if I hired 50 professional cocksuckers (all with the biggest names, award pedigrees, etc. behind them). Guess what I'd get? 50 pros with no awkwardness whatsoever, doing something they've done several hundred times each.
Then again, some bigger names won't even do shoots like this. I tried to hire Lauren Phoenix but was told she wasn't interested. I understand and that's cool.
I am infinitely more interested in meeting brand new girls. Like little fawn rising to their wobbly legs for the first time, these Bambis are testing their porn legs out for the first time. Kudos to them for having the guts to eat cum on camera. Kudos to Platinum X for having one release in the month that is a little bit more original and innovative than some others.
I am not the smartest pornographer nor am I the dumbest. I just know what sorts of things I want to see. Like I say, I am gambling a lot on this experiment. To rent this title might cost you only a few dollars or to buy it around $20.
You owe it to yourself to at least see Brianna Love in Volume 2. Hands down, watching this woman eat a load is something you can only see at Red Light and Platinum X.
Lastly, the last time I felt this strongly about a series was when I pitched BAKER'S DOZEN to the then-head of production at Red Light, Vince Vouyer. He turned it down...and I could not be happier with his decision.
Paying trib-ute to SinncentVanSage 1412 Posts 12/04
Posted - Feb 6 2006 : 8:39AM
Paging Walter, the Fixer and every other person attracted by boobies; this should be the Mystery Quote of the Week.
By the way, 50 to 1 sounds quite interesting... I mean there are people who say drop dead gorgeous singer Fiona Apple "looks exactly like the drug addict she is", and while I don't know about her attitude towards drugs I surely know she looks highly fuckable. What's more, I'm into natural-looking girls, and even though my favourite porn stars are incredibly beautiful that's not the main reason I'm into them. It's most sexy when something of the girls' real personalities shines through the scenes. They can but don't have to be extremely beautiful to be cute, and cuteness is what turns me on most when it comes to a girl's appearance. More often than not so-called butt-ugly girls turn out to be as "ugly" as a butt to me, and who doesn't like butts in here?
In Gauge we thrust.
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Posted - Feb 6 2006 : 10:49AM
:) This happened to me initially. When the movie was first being discussed in the forums, I saw the title "50 to 1" and figured it was another gangbang flick.
It was only after closer inspection did I find out that it was 50 girls (each at one time) and 1 guy.
That totally changed it for me. And the fact that is was POV too.
I agree with Brandon's reasoning. I like to see films where the girls resemble the girls I would see and/or approach in everyday life at the mall, at the grocery store, in the bars, et cetera. I live in a college town so when the semester is ongoing, the majority of girls are 20-somethings in tight low rise jeans, and a simple top. So I liked that aspect of 50 to 1.
And I also agree with dplovr about the fake boobs and lots of make up you see on so many girls. I believe if a girl is gonna wear make up, she (or the stylist) should make it look as if she's not wearing any make up.
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Eric381 Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 6 2006 : 5:09PM
Ahhh, but alas...THAT'S the kind of girl I'd like to see in porn as well, albeit not all the makeup.
Some horny college cuties that are just looking to make sure their student loans get sprayed....I mean paid off.
I think there is one incosideration being given here. I'd be inclined to say that many of the "fakes" (those with fake boobs, and I mean that in a good way) who enter porn danced prior to their entry into the industry. So the boobs were applied for another aspect of the industry - cosmetic surgery in order to please patrons that are literally oogling at you from 5' away.
Then of course, you have the few who insult the industry (AFAIC) who dance for a living. They make 10 movies to supplement whatever future they might have as a feature dancer, and have the nerve to call themselves a "pornstar", when in fact they were only an interim "adult actress".
Whereas you've the opposite, there are girls who are in the biz for a year, and decide to get them to enhance their image on-screen (or some contract outfit decides it's in their best interest, lol).
To further illustate my point, let me tell you about a shoot I did a few hours ago with the lovely and talented Jamie Elle. She is an interesting person to meet and comes from a small town in Oregon. Cute as a button, she explains the tattoo on her shoulder that she got when her mom passed away. It's not the fodder for the grist mill you see in most porn interviews, but it reveals some great traits in her personality.
Yes, she eats a load that is lovingly placed on her tongue but she first tells you a little bit about herself. It's fascinating to me...and should be, too, to anyone else who takes the time to check it out.
In a crowded porn world where even makeup artists schedule appointments starting at 8:00 am so they can squeeze in 9 10 and 11 o'clock jobs, 50 TO 1 is a breath of fresh air.
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Eric381 Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 6 2006 : 5:26PM
And it also illustrates the intelligence & wit of the director to arise such questions, other than the typical "how big are your tits?", "when did you first eat cum?", etc.
Brandon, if you've been able to do this to 150 girls thus far (give or take, assuming a double or two?), I consider it a little look into the lives of the performers that we'd otherwise not get to see, because so many people become jaded about who they used to be after they've become famous.
While I don't like to delve into the private lives of anyone who I'm not personally associated with, this type of interview sort of hypocrites even my own view on that. Why? Because I like it, it's something "new" & "different", and gives you something "before they were star(s)".
I got a kick out of seeing Tiffany Holiday's tribal, albeit it's not the most ideal piece of artwork when you consider that the same person has a stage name in the industry as well. That said, I'd dare not ask what the tattoo meant in chatting with her during AEE, lol.
I overlooked this title as well, thinking it was another gangbang variation. The real description sounds interesting. Tapping into the girl's personality is so undervalued in current porn. I'm getting tired of the quick transformation into the tedious porn star "character" in most scenes, following some preliminary innocuous questions.
One of the most memorable scenes in recent years was a bonus scene in a Mike John movie. Leah Luv wanders in off the street, Mike has her crawl, cock gag and take a facial. Leah looks like the proverbial deer, but she's also cute and vulnerable with her braces, un-pornish tits, and her wonderment at what men want young girls to do for their stroking fantasies.
"I don't think this Industry is for me!" she screams at one point. I would have agreed with her. Little do I know...
Sorry, but I can't accept criticism where a 50 girl movie is a "big letdown." My advice: Stick with all the other 5-7 girl movies out there. You can't be all things to all people.
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Eric381 Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 6 2006 : 7:38PM
Just because I appreciate his work doesn't mean you need to get personal. It helps if you base your reviews & comments with an opened mind.
I got no issues with interviews. I love BTS and Interviews when done correctly. Truth be told I got no issues with you. I've told you repeatedly that I like your work.
Most of us have seen the girls without makeup and hair and some aren't even recognizable. I was just trying to say that LA is full of beautiful women, and it's not always reflected in your works.
I'll also agree that in a title of 50 women, most people won't like every girl. Hell doesn't Deja Vu still have the slogan, 50 women and 2 ugly ones?
I wouldn't buy a title like that regardless of who made it. Do your thing though. You're still golden with me.
Don't be defensive Brandon. I am a fan. Some people may be trying to give constructive criticism, so try not to take it personally.
I still feel you are missing the point. The movie could have had 500 girls and still been a "big letdown" based on the below average looks of the majority of the performers.
Consider yourself lucky. With your horse sized cock and the fact that Monica Sweetheart has swallowed your jizz, 90% of us fans would gladly accept a little criticism to be in your shoes!
Thanks for the feedback. Really, I mean it! I don't expect everyone to love this title. I know for me it is more interesting than seeing girls in features doing "acting." Like I say, you can't please everyone.
When you get an average movie with 5 or 6 girls, chances are that not every single girl will be to everyone's liking. The ratios don't change much with 50 to 1. I mean, no one could reasonably call Monica Sweetheart a big letdown. Continuing down the list of soon-to-be-superstars, you have Avy Lee Roth, Bianca Pureheart, Gen Padova, Courtney Simpson, Erin Moore, Gianna, Georgia X, Hollie Stevens, Jamie Huxley, Tiffany Rayne, Delilah Strong, and a plethora of others.
C'mon.....get real. Are these girls only hot in other movies?
I didn't think so.
Enjoy the starlet buffet and quit complaining that you didn't leave room for dessert.
Now for crying out loud go fuck some 18 year old up the ass, bust in her mouth and share it with the rest of us sickos. Rest assured, I will keep buying your movies!