I would argue that what they have done is not so much fall off as stay exactly the same in a market that's changed around them. They produce pretty much the same content they did 8 years ago, which for the majority of people I've found that don't like them is their problem with them. It's just that that content isn't necessarily what's in style anymore.
How would that change with a different/faster release schedule? You'd simply get the "dull filler" more quickly as well. Releasing scenes faster doesn't magically make the overall quality level go up.
Evilangel has a new release that has some rough scenes but i haven't checked it out yet.Rocco's Perfect Slaves:American Edition is out or slated to be out soon.From the trailer you can see it has some amazing rough content.The Allie James and Ash Hollywood scene seems particularly good with some toilet seat play as well .
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Posted - Sep 9 2014 : 12:26PM
^^I don't know if there are any current sites or movie series that I can rely on to be truly rough the majority of the time. Pornstars Punishment met my expectations at least 3/5ths of the time, which was a very good rate. I remember when Perfect Gonzo's sites used to satisfy almost 100% of the time (Raul Cristian didn't name his company Cruel Media for nothing) but now they're soft. Kink's Bound Gangbangs was very reliable but Hardcore Gangbangs' track record has been more mixed. I guess of the major sites Evil Angel is currently leading when it comes to hard content, but to be honest what I try to do nowadays is follow individual pornstars who seem to make any scene they are in rough. Adriana Chechik is a good example of this, though I haven't watched any of her work since her Howard Stern interview and don't know if I will again. Bonnie Rotten is another such example. They're a handful of pornstars who just naturally up the ante in scenes that would otherwise be softer.
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Posted - Sep 9 2014 : 2:06PM
^&^^ Thanks alot guys I appreciate your recommendations as I love rough content but I am sure you guys will agree that over the past couple of years its been hard to cum by. Missporn I like the following a pornstar idea, ill give it a go and wanka thanks for pointing me in the right direction I cant wait for that Rocco title to cum out, Keep the rough content cumming guys!
For me, the only scenes that I have liked for the entire year of Brazzer's output are the ones with the slow-mo in them (all of them apparently directed by Brando): AJ/Maddy - Stars and Stripes Mischa Brooks/Jada Stevens - How to Consult a Perfect Ass Kagney Linn Karter - Porno PI series Dani Daniels - Whore of Wall Street series But lets be honest, out of the hundreds of scenes that they have put out, if only a few considered good then that's not a very good ratio. What's more interesting about Brazzers is just how much stuff they produce, you think there is going to be a hot scene and there (typically) never is. Its getting to be more like once a month that there's something good and that's it. So much material that is just flat.
it seems like they had a pretty good week and a half at the beginning of september, ending with a new(?) Jayden Jaymes scene I haven't seen any of it though.
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Posted - Sep 20 2014 : 7:09PM
^I like more of Brazzers' content than not and that's as true of this week as it is of any other, but I seem to be in the minority here. Edited by - misspornUSA on 9/20/2014 7:10:39 PM
Brazzers didn't fall off, they are fine and I still think they offer the best value in porn. I think they had better days when they kept things more simple but they still have the best pairing and the best talent in the business. Adult DVD Talk members have always been against girls with breast implants that won't do anal so you have to keep in mind that these forums are biased. ADT members are more into all natural girls that love anal sex. These forums have mainly attracted Evil Angel fans who love Rocco, Joey Silvera, Bellladonna & John Stagliano's approach to porn which is totally different than Brazzers. I disagree that Brazzers has only done a couple of good scenes this year. Many of the scenes are too fancy for my tastes but they quality is still there.
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Posted - Oct 5 2014 : 1:45PM
^ nice write up. I like Brazzers because a lot of the scenes end in massive facials. I don't know why. Maybe their talent saves up before a Brazzers shoot? Can u tell me if they still have scene comments?
I would hope so. There would definitely seem to be a market out there for it. Look at how Blacked has launched, and their first 3 DVDs all became top sellers.
I see Brazzers is now pushing a "premium" members site. Got an interstitial this morning when I pulled up the site offering it for $1 (normal price $7.95). Didn't pull the trigger. So far, it just looks like it is content that they have previously made available for free (e.g. BTS) and are now attempting to monetize. I'll wait a bit and see if there is anything there worth spending money on. Stuff like "be entered automatically in all of our contests!" isn't much of a motivator for me.
Thanks Tintin, i'm glad somebody agrees with me. If they put as much effort into that site as they do in all the other sites instead of treating it like a chore that has to be done, I might consider re-joining. Edited by - lezlover on 10/8/2014 4:54:45 PM
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Posted - Oct 10 2014 : 6:17PM
I really wish Brazzers would drop the fish eye lens effect. does anyone actually like this? I want to see the ass in its natural form for the love of Christ!
I have a question I hope someone can shed light on... BRAZZERS used to have a few IR sites. I've seen pics but never saw an actual scene (I think). I'm guessing those sites weren't popular enough for them to keep around. Can anyone give some insight/thoughts on why they didn't catch on like the other sites and tell me how they compared to the stuff they produced for the non-IR sites?
^Are you sure that it's the one's under the Brazzer brand and not the ones under the RK brand? I checked the sites that appear to have interracial content under Brazzer and the only two that come up are teens like it black and butts and blacks. That's not to say that some of their other sites don't offer IR content but these are the only ones to use IR as the marketing tool. Neither has updated since 2008 so they are quite dead.
^ I'm talking about BRAZZERS sites from years ago...probably from around 2006. They had IR sites. When they started putting out BRAZZERS DVD years ago I was looking forward to seeing the BRAZZERS IR content but it never came. I read later that they stopped making IR content for the IR sites and they went away. It must be because they weren't doing as well. I was wondering if anyone had any idea why those sites didn't do well. Were they shot differently from typical BRAZZERS scenes? Were lesser talents involved? Were they just badly done? It just seems strange they had/have all that content already shot and don't do anything with it.
There was a ton a racist comments on Brazzers scenes from like 2008-2012, they seemed to have died down a lot recently as far as the harsh racism from posters over there. They should probably experiment with shooting some type of interracial site in the future but I'm sure it would feel watered down. They used to shoot interracial sites but the quality does not hold up and those sites haven't been updated for years. Occasionally you'll see interracial but doesn't happen that often over there.
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Posted - Oct 12 2014 : 1:00AM
It's always pissed me off that Brazzers "pulled the plug" on that Teens Like It Black site after just 8 scenes. Hailey Young's scene on it is still a favorite of mine.
I'm a member and absolutely love my membership. I have nothing but good things to say about the site, especially now with "Big Butte Like It Big" on its way back.
Yeah I've been posting here since 2003 and I have to tell you that you can't judge a site or a pornstar's popularity by these forums. Occasionally a huge thread like when Teagan first started shooting was a good representation of how much buzz she had. More often than not a lot of the posters on here will totally crap on anyone who is a huge star or becomes highly successful. Jenna Jameson used to get a lot of crap on here back in the early 2000s and now you would think Brazzers is like the new Wicked or Vivid because they've managed to breakout and become the WWE/NFL/McDonalds or Porn.
Sounds about right...very well said. These attitudes are typical of Internet forums. You mentioned WWE, and on wrestling forums people generally hate big time stars (the very men they rooted for when they were underdogs). It's a mentality that I don't quite understand. I enjoy seeing my favorites make it to the top. Brazzers has a lot of variety. Yes, they feature a lot of 30+ women with enhanced breasts. But they also have two sites dedicated to women with large backsides (today's update had Layla Pryce who has a straight-up "ghetto booty"). Hot & Mean is a fun change of pace and not as bad as people here make it out to be. Would an Interracial site be a good way to mix things up? Yes but maybe their surveys and other research have indicated that a majority of their members don't want that. The reason we don't get an IR site could be the same reason we don't get a European-themed site or a site dedicated to transgender women: it's just not what most of their target audience wants. Plus, as others have stated, their forays into interracial have been met with hostile comments and lots of dislikes.
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Posted - Oct 12 2014 : 11:49PM
That is why and when I stopped reading Brazzers' members comments. Maybe the racism has died down since but the anything goes approach of Brazzers to members comments doesn't seem to have changed. Veronica Avluv stopped shooting for Brazzers in large part due to their refusal to moderate comments. Edited by - misspornUSA on 10/12/2014 11:50:18 PM
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Posted - Oct 13 2014 : 5:02AM
In terms of content, Brazzers have long been one of the premium sites I can always count on shooting top quality, excellently filmed, crisply shot porn. The website is lush, excellently designed, and has some of the best search search functions of any site I have been a member of. Also, the prices for membership when considering all of this are extremely good. They are one of the few sites that I am always excited to visit every day, and whenever I see on Twitter or wherever that one of my favourite performers, or even a new one that I have just discovered, have shot a new scene for them I can rest assured its going to be done with care and professionalism. Where they fall down hard is in their moderation of the 'community' on the site, especially on the comments section. It brings nothing positive to the site and serves absolutely no other function other than to bring out the worst in people. This in itself is not so bad if they had moderators that gave a shit and did their job properly. It has long been a serious bone of contention and has long been an issue raised with Brazzers on the forums countless times by it's members and yet they continue to do absolutely nothing to regulate it efficiently. Example, you get 10 people telling a performer to go die in a hole, stop bringing them to the site, screaming in all caps for somebody to do anal, or worse wishing disgusting acts on them or their family and friends. This would get some retarded number of thumbs up. A person like me, sick of reading this negative shit, which is completely unneccessary and demands action, tells that person or people to STFU. What happens? Downvoted and my comment is removed by the Moderators, but the shit-slinging, malicious comments remain. Or, I can post something really positive about a performer or a scene praising Brazzers and the performer, only to find it gets mass downvoted. Some prick above screams "STOP CASTING UGLY BITCHES WITH FAKE TITS!!" and he's lauded with upvotes. So who do the moderators remove? Yep, my comment. SMFH. I'm not joking, this comments sections needs to be completely removed and have absolutely no way for the fans to express their views. In my time as a member all I have seen come out of this function on the site is the continued exodus of performers so fed up with the negative, unmoderated comments that they have left. As one poster said above, Veronica Avluv just grew sick of it, and tragically she is not the first and will most certainly not be the last. I would rather have my favourite site run like a totalitarian dictatorship than provide free speech for trolls and insensitive, whining fucking assholes. If they did away with the comments section altogether, it would be a far better site. And it does have to be removed because it's quite clear they have not got the first damn clue on how to moderate it intelligently. Either keep it positive and deactivate the trolls, or don't let ANYBODY speak at all if that is too difficult to manage. /rant
I almost never look at the comment section so it's hard for me to know how bad it is. I assume it is only because of what people like you say about it. Is it possible that one of the reasons why they don't bother to do anything about it is because only paying members can post comments. The number one rule in business is that the customer is always right even if you know he's wrong. Of course they could moderate it a lot more but if you remove a paying members comment than aren't you saying that he is wrong so we are back to the number one rule. It's also quite possible that since Brazzer knows which scenes gets downloaded the most than they don't really care if it gets a lot of negative post because they assume the people doing that are trolling and still downloaded the scene and also downloaded the other ones the star of that scene did for Brazzer. I don't bother posting comments on specific scene because it's too late to do anything about it scene since I had to first see it to comment on it. Case in point the anal scene Mia did for Brazzer. Super hot girl who does an amazing scene but it's shot outside and in such a way that the bulk of the action is always in shadow due to the sunlight and the angle of the camera. Why complain now that the scene is over?
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Posted - Oct 14 2014 : 2:18AM
^ The customer is never right for business if they are the reason the business is leaving, in this case, the performers. There's no excuse not to moderate it, it is flat out laziness and ignorance. A pointless, meaningless, deliberately malicious, comment is not "right" and has no place on a pubic forum for the performer's to see, whichever way you cut it. Unfortunately, Brazzers are not the only one guilty of this.
^ Nothing against Veronica Avluv, but I suspect the bottom line impact of her not shooting new scenes for Brazzers will be negligible. In any case, nobody forced her to read the comments under her scenes, just like nobody's forcing performers to visit any other place on the internet where their work may be "discussed". That's not to say that the scene comments sections aren't crap (most of the time they are), but to insinuate that they're somehow ruining Brazzers' business is really overblown and silly. Edit: I'm also not sure if your experience from ^^^^ is just particularly unlucky or if you're just suffering from tunnel vision. Most deliberately inflammatory comments I see under scenes these days are receiving massive down votes, not up. Edited by - shalalin on 10/14/2014 1:19:46 PM
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Posted - Oct 14 2014 : 1:48PM
Nobody is forcing these anonymous people to be utter cunts but they are and that is the point. Saying that the performer should not look at these comments is shifting the blame and avoiding the issue, especially when the comments of porn viewers are actually particularly important when it comes to getting work. So I'm sorry but your argument holds no water whatsoever.
^ You yourself are implying that not all porn viewers' comments are equally useful, so why should a performer feel compelled to read any and all such comments instead of just the ones posted in places where they are likely to be (somewhat) sensible? I'm not shifting the blame whatsoever, I'm saying that performers need to exercise common sense and not just try to "interact" with "fans" in any random cesspool just because it might further their career a tiny little bit. Why do you think most performers these days limit themselves to venues they can control, such as personal social media accounts? (This is no different to expecting performers to have enough common sense to realize that, say, shooting for Facial Abuse might not be the best idea.) In any case, contrary to your earlier silly claim that the performers constitute Brazzers' "business", as others have already pointed out the subscribers are their actual business, so it's not terribly surprising that the comment sections are geared towards making the subscribers happy, not the performers. You might have a point if porn performers were somehow highly sought-after and irreplaceable, but quite frankly, 99% of them at any given time are not. For any performer who refuses to shoot for Brazzers (or any other major company), there are 10 others who'll gladly take the slot on the shooting schedule. People with no leverage don't get to make demands, it's that simple. Edited by - shalalin on 10/15/2014 12:40:45 PM
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Posted - Oct 15 2014 : 1:55PM
'Common sense' should have to be exercised in every conceivable circumstance when the owners of the company and the site should be moderating the site to begin with. Despite your denials you're just churning out the "Don't like it? Don't watch it" argument in a more fancy way. The "argument" you are putting forward is the sort of one that a troll would use to defend their malicious behaviour.
I canceled my subscription a while ago. Brazzers became to "vanilla" for my taste. Maybe some people like big fake boobs and pornstars that mainly live by vaginal sex and straight "vanilla" scenes. I'm just not one of those. I like varity. And Brazzers don't offer that much for me. But hey if Brazzers is what float your boat than go ahead watch it. Who am i to stop you. Edited by - Danger Josh on 10/15/2014 2:11:39 PM
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Posted - Oct 15 2014 : 2:45PM
^ That's the most important thing here, as you say, it's content is either for you or it's not. For me, it's one of my favourites for the reasons I described earlier. A site like Naughty America or Porn Pros, for example, which essentially churn out the same scene on a conveyor belt with dfifferent girls and have no concept of the variety of camerawork are the sort that I cancelled my membership to after I grew wise to their content. Also, they're not adventurous enough for my tastes, in that you never see anything even close to slightly extreme or kinky. For some people, this kind of porn is ideal - simple, to the point, straightforward fucking with your favourite pornstars - and I can see the appeal. But this is not for me. Brazzers on the other hand delivers on everything these other sites do not. So, arguments about their abhorrent moderating abilities aside, they remain one of the best and have done in the last two years since I have been a member.
If they could manage at least 1 IR scene a week, then they'd have my attention. They produce 2 scenes a day, so 14 a week. Is 1 of those 14 too much to ask to cater to IR fans? I don't think it would be a bad idea, plus that still allows them to maintain about 93% vanilla. Just doing 1 in 14 scenes as IR isn't a radical dismantling of their almost all white routine, but actually would make sense. Isn't diversifying a portfolio supposed to be a good idea? It's not like this is a small company that must adhere to niche tastes. When you're as enormous as Brazzers is, you can actually benefit more than almost anyone else by diversifying. Look at Wal-Mart. They're the #1 brick and mortar retailer in the world, and they didn't get to that by staying with offering just clothing and appliances. They have automotive, lawn care, even a market. I'm not trying to a be P.C. dictator or anything, although I do find it disturbing to read accounts posted here about Brazzers former failure to moderate hate speech in their comments.Hopefully they have handled that by now. It just seems like they are leaving money on the table by ignoring such a popular genre.
Edited by - Melvyn on 10/15/2014 6:33:30 PM
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Posted - Oct 15 2014 : 6:32PM
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I agree about the interracial site but I just think they need to fight the right performer to do it. They experimented with male talent over there like Jason Brown, Lucas Stone, Jon Jon & Sean Michaels to name a few but none of the scenes really blew anyone away. Honesty think they should take a run at Mandingo since it just seems like the relationship with Jules isn't really going anywhere (at least it seems that way). Hopefully the director they hire for the interracial site has a different style than most of the stuff they release now. Also one of my gripes with the site is that they experience server issues on an average of about every month. The site consistently has issues when you cannot login from time to time and it's been a consistent problem that they should attempt to cut down on. Right now the site is actually down.
I agree with you on everything, except I'm an almost all anal guy. However, I can't even get into their newer anal scenes.. and definitely agree about the girls. Well one thing I find is that most of their girls seem to be bubble butts with huge butts. I don't like huge anything, I like just regular looking sexy girls. So that puts me off, and I don't like the way their scenes are shot now really. My favourite is probably 21sextury. Assholefever (a part of 21sextury) is very good. Down side is most of them are eurobabes, and eurobabes are great but I like to see a lot of Yank and Limey girls too, prefer them even because they seem more like.. close to home, more like someone I know, and there are some great ones out there.. who don't seem to be doing enough anal. Waddupwitdat?
I must admit i will always have a soft spot for Brazzers because as a teen searching the net for FFM scenes in 2007-8 i found so many great group scenes with the likes of Jayden Jaymes, Nikki benz, Rachel Roxxx, Shyla Styles etc it kind of made me a fan of Porn. They still make some great group scenes but my one complaint is that they film scenes but sometimes take ages to release them. They filmed a syren de mar FFM scene a few months back, playing a stepmom fucking two teens, similar to the MomsBangTeens.com scenes from RK.com which i really like but it still hasn't been released.
Ha, how ironic i moan about the stepmom Syren scene but its out now, along with 9 other scenes for a new site on Btazzers called Moms in control. (they must have filmed all these months ago and decided to lauch a new site with 10 scenes i guess) with 9 of the 10 scenes being ffm scenes this is like the sites MomBangteens from RK.com and Milfsoup/Stepmomvideos from Bangbros and MomsTeachSex.com. I like those sites and the older and younger pairings so i hope this site has success and has numerous updates.
^Yeah, I was keeping track of the scenes on the Brazzers "preview site" (posted the trailers to some in the star crossed forum) They were original listed as Brazzers Extra scenes and then they disappeared from the preview site a week or so ago. I was worried. Glad they're up. Always awesome to get 12 new scenes in a single day. Hope the site last longer than the CFNM site ZZ tried to launch earlier this year.
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