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Perverted_Jewish_Guy
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207 Posts
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Posted - Jun 27 2010 : 9:19PM
It seems like porn sites will never reveal the true information of each pornstar. I am getting quite tired of it.
For example, Jenna Jameson is reported to be 5'6 on just about every stats page on the Internet. In reality though, she's only 5'3.
Lela Star is reported to be 5'1. Now that is a short height but she looks even shorter than that. One of my buddies is 5'6 and when he saw Lela Star she seemed much shorter than him (significantly more than 5 inches) even in high heels.
A lot of sites report Mariah Milano to be Latin. She is not! She confirmed on this site that she's 100% Sicilian.
Audrey Bitoni is marketed as being Italian/German when in reality she's really Middle Eastern...
It's things like this that piss me off about the porn industry.
backdoorman
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Posted - Jun 27 2010 : 9:50PM
Algaliarept
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3557 Posts
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Posted - Jun 27 2010 : 10:26PM
Isn't Sicilian "Latin"? Ist not Hispanic, but should be "latin"
Perverted_Jewish_Guy
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Posted - Jun 28 2010 : 1:34AM
lol
Ghozt
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57 Posts
6/10
Posted - Jun 28 2010 : 7:23AM
Sicilian is Italian
 
A-ten
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581 Posts
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Posted - Jun 28 2010 : 11:13AM
Start a site and make it your job to ensure that all pornstar physical stats are accurate. I bet you'd even have fun measuring them.
Kelli
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NaughtyNews.Network
220 Posts
8/08
Posted - Jun 28 2010 : 11:43AM
I run about 50 websites and I've always worked really hard to get accurate information about the stars and for years now it's really been a passion of mine to get accurate information out there and in many cases proving that my information is correct by providing the information and documentation where I got that from.
Then something odd happened .... I started to get a lot of heat about it from the porn stars themselves or their agents or managers. I once reported a porn stars correct birthday because around the net in at least 19 places I found it to be wrong - not only the year but also the day. I reported the correct day then showed I was correct by blacking out all but that on her DL proving her real birthday. She was about 5 or 6 years older than other sites report and not only that but her the day was off by about 5 to 10 days (depending on which site you visited) She and her agent freaked. I actually got cursed out by her agent so I removed the year and proof of how I know her real birthday.
Fair enough, some girls don't want to reveal their real sge, right? Well that same star I then posted her corrected height. I can't remember exactly right now but it seemed like some sites were reporting her as like 5'1 or 5'2 when in reality she was like 5'6 or whatever. Again the agent freaked out on me. He said that I was hurting her chances at booking jobs because I am reporting she is to tall. I explain, "but she is that tall". He cursed at me some more before saying "ya but we don't tell people that because if they think she is to tall she won't get jobs". Ummm ok.
Chasey Lain used to be reported she is 5 foot 6 or 5 foot 8. In reality she is barely 5 foot tall.
Once I reported a girls actual heritage. I got it from her directly. Her contract studio was not happy with me about that. They felt it was better to market her as a "Latino" because it reached a wider audience.
Something else crazy is the cup size on girls. I've noticed that more often than not, when a site reports her measurements, they are not accurate. Take Nikki Benz. I read on a site she had double D cups. When she was on the set of Hocus Pocus XXX I learned, that in reality she's much bigger than double D. I think they measured her to be like F cup.
And everyone lies about their clothes sizes and weight. That's just a given. I won't say who I'm talking about because it's rude but I booked a girl on my movie Hocus Pocus XXX and I had to get all of the sizes for everyone to buy costumes. I got all of this information from their agents - now keep in mind this girl is with the same agent who previously didn't want me revealing the real age or height of one of his other stars, so I should have considered the fact that he was fool of poo but I didn't, this being my first movie I produced and all. The girl showed up and seriously could not fit into the costume. We aren't talking 5 or 10 pounds different either. She was at least 20 or 25 pounds bigger and at least a full 2 sizes. I had already spent a TON of money on those costumes and now I had nothing for her. I was soooo pissed.
Why can people just not tell the truth? Their real fans are going to love them no matter what. Their fans want to know the REAL them, not the made up crap fed to them. The love the star and want to know about the star. It only annoys the fans when they later find out the truth.
SO LISTEN UP MANAGERS, AGENTS AND PR REPS -- your star isn't to old or to fat or to tall or to short. She's not to Latin or to white, to German, Indian or to Hispanic sounding. The fans love her for who she is so stop feeding the people bull shit about who your star is. Just be honest. The fans love your star if she is 19 or 23. They loved her because they've previously seen her in something. Do you think they will really change their mind if they find out a girl is really Jewish and not Italian. SERIOUSLY?!?!?!!
ninja1
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Posted - Jun 28 2010 : 12:52PM
I can understand the agent wanting to hide his client's age because it probably does dramatically affect her getting gigs or not. The height is interesting, looking at OP's annoyance at girls being "too short" and the agent's attempts to promote his girl as being shorter than reality.
As a bigbooty fan, I always take notice of the hips measurement, and it's interesting how many of the "famous" bigbooty girls will understate their hip size.
Rarely does anyone claim anything above 38 inches, except the "megabooty" black girls who proudly proclaim their 50+ inches when asked in interviews.
Nikki Benz
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Posted - Jul 1 2010 : 3:33AM
Actually my cup size is 34DD. Although a lot of my bras are a 36D. It really depends on the make of the bra, but no I am not an F cup. Considering my feature dancing costumes are custom made and I'm always getting measured I think I'd know my bra size ;)

Edited by - Nikki Benz on 7/1/2010 3:34:32 AM

ekarth
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Posted - Jul 1 2010 : 7:19AM
but we as audience are just supposed to watch porn and jackoff.
if searching for their height, date of birth and penis size information like you intend to write a biography or publish baseball like playing cards of them. In that case I suggest you personally visit the CA and verify the facts.
tedddy79
Member

10 Posts
7/10
Posted - Jul 6 2010 : 1:47PM
You gotta love these girls that stay 19 for 3, 4 even 5 years. I guess time suspends in the San Fernando
Valley, huh? What's up with 19 anyway? They're legal @ 18, but they're always 19.
Algaliarept
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3557 Posts
7/08
Posted - Jul 16 2010 : 3:48AM
Pornstar Baseball Cards sound like a great idea...i hereby Copywrite this!
Edited by - algaliarept on 7/16/2010 3:51:44 AM
lastchance
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22 Posts
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Posted - Jul 18 2010 : 4:18PM

Being someone who went to acting school, I can understand the false info to a point. We were taught never to reveal our true ages whether it was not listing it on our resume or telling casting agents. If you look the part, then you should be able to play the part. I think this is fair for the porn industry as well. Unless you're a big star, like in Hollywood, when your up on IMDB and your so famous you can easily get the roles you want.
Like other big industries that are hurt by the Internet and economy, agents and stars are desperate for revenue and are willing to bend the truth or leave out details to sell the product. Hell, I sell jewelry on the street in Soho, and I've learned that to be a good salesman you have to be able to communicate well, work with the customers wants and needs, and only give as much info as needed unless they ask. Unfortunately, the porn biz is more of a "don't ask, don't tell" sort of business than most. We are fooling ourselves though, if we think that they aren't putting on as good as a show or act for our attention like any other big business.
I think a good example of all this is if you looked up Audrey Hollander's bio almost anywhere. They all say the EXACT same thing without much differentiation. The two main (selling) points are that she's a college educated girl who went for teaching and that she's married (to Otto Bauer). What isn't mentioned at all is that she's a stripper or ever stripped. When I found that out, I realized that her profile makes it also sound like she and Otto did their own private thing for a while and then jumped into porn, helping to throw more attention to the fact that she's married and educated and that they eased into it. This all serves as some sort of selling point, so their viewers will wonder how such a nice, educated, married girl from next door could do the nasty things she's done on camera. They leave the part out of her being a stripper because it would hurt the fantasy! So in fact, they're not really lying, but bending the truth by leaving things out.
This bending happens ALL the time, with every girl. It's not until you see some kind of documentary or behind the scenes interview of them talking about how they either didn't grow up with parents or was abused, moved somewhere to strip (because they didn't have the confidence to hold regular jobs), have some kind of chemical dependency, and then start shooting movies. And EVERY time you see either the lack of love, confusion and lack of who they really are, and the attitude (or even words) "yeah, so HERE I am" as if there was never anywhere else for them to go.
So you tell me, do fans of porn want the reality (that we ALL know exists, but are willing to put aside for a few moments out of our day so we can please ourselves do we want the fantasy ABOUT the supposed reality that helps us also justifying coming back for more?
Algaliarept
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Posted - Jul 19 2010 : 1:19AM
I will say that I'm not a fan of when companies airbrush tattoos off of DVD cover girls. (Monique Alexander comes to mind)
Algaliarept
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3557 Posts
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Posted - Jul 21 2010 : 1:03AM
Frankly, I get thsi alot on tv now. I will look at the synopsis for a show on Dish Network and it will say "New", then I start to watch it and its a rerun.
WTF!
 
Johnothan Pedak
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Catastrophe
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Posted - Jul 21 2010 : 1:57AM
My favorite false info is when a girl has been "18" for several years.
Lord Lucifer
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Sins of the flesh
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Posted - Jul 21 2010 : 2:06AM
I mostly read that she's Spanish/German (although I've seen Italian/German & Latina, as well). What's your source on her being of Middle Eastern descent? ? ?
ScottMcGowan
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"Skip the sex. I wanna see the stories." -Scott on Girlfriends Films
149 Posts
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Posted - Jul 21 2010 : 5:03AM
I know that the agent that gave you the business about this certainly didn't use this point, but it might even be viewed as somewhat irresponsible to actually post someone's real date of birth on a website.
As you know, DOB's are often used for verification purposes when dealing with banks, credit card companies, and other places where people keep long term accounts.
Porn girls (end even the guys) do unfortunately get their share of obsessive fans who use the interwebs for rather nefarious purposes at times.
As a fan, I personally do like to be able to get accurate information about performers. I think it's just fun sometimes to look up info and be surprised at a stat or some such. Being in the business, though, I always expect the marketing line first as opposed to accuracy. In other words, I rarely believe anything I read online.
In terms of personal information, I personally feel like a DOB might be a bit much. Wouldn't a properly updated age suffice?
ilikepornguy2010
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35 Posts
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Posted - Jul 21 2010 : 11:30AM
Tons and tons of younger guys I've talked to ACTUALLY want a woman to be older than them, so why are porn stars staying or advertised at 18 and 19 ? Doesn't even make sense to me. The ones in their 30s and 40s should be playing up their age difference and using it to their advantage as "experienced" and "cougar" and all that.We all DON'T want bubblegum cheerleader type "ummm... like... oh my god"
aoife
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Posted - Jul 24 2010 : 6:58PM
If it's accurate, sure. I remember some of these porn girls I used to see in a lot of videos back in 2000, 2001, we were about the same age.
Today, I'm like 6 or 7 years older than those same girls, because it turns out they are like 24 years old. 10 years ago, they were 19. What the hell happened? What did I miss? :/ And why do these people in the porn industry think we're actually going to believe that stuff? We can do the math and it doesn't add up. But we're still expected to buy it, right?
Doublethink, huh? a la Orwell, I guess.
ScottMcGowan
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149 Posts
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Posted - Jul 29 2010 : 4:03AM
From my point of view, a couple of things happen that make this the case.
1. Porn fans aren't always given the respect they deserve. Unfortunately, many studios, retailers, and website owners feel like their customers are disposable, and that's a shame.
2. Many websites that post porn news or otherwise work as a source of information about the industry end up reporting more on the marketing than actually looking for correct information. Since many websites make their money off affiliate programs, they usually just use the proverbial "company line"
3. Who are we kidding. It's the porn business. Short of the veritable handful of responsible, hard working, dedicated people in this game, the industry generally wallows in it's own mediocrity (at best) and failures (at worst).
Schmse
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I'm not here, this isn't happening!
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Posted - Jul 29 2010 : 4:23AM
I find it ridiculous if latinas are advertised as asian, indian or arab.
nateglass
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Posted - Jul 29 2010 : 11:45AM
My favorite going years back was the Bring Um Young with Aurora Snow on the cover. As many of you probably remember, the BUY boxes had pics of the girls with their age down to the year and month. But under Aurora Snow's pic it said "18 years, 13 months". The measures we'll go to to sell these girls as not over the age of 18 is amusing.
aoife
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Posted - Jul 30 2010 : 1:51AM
Kinda like when they advertise Rebeca Linares as a Latina!
She's from Spain!
Kelli
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Posted - Jul 30 2010 : 2:57PM
Sites of all kinds including Wikipedia and IAFD have been listing porn star's birthdays for years. It's very common practice dating back to the earliest porn star websites in the 1990's.
 
Kelli
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220 Posts
8/08
Posted - Jul 30 2010 : 3:02PM
Pleasure excuse my ignorance but I don't understand then what exactly defines a Latina, if being of Spanish decent isn't included in that.
Can you clarify for me what defines a "Latina"?
I was always under the impression that includes people from Mexico, Spain, Brazil, Puerto Rico, Cuba, etc.
When you Google it, the dictionary says "Hispanic and Latino Americans are Americans with origins in the Hispanic countries of Latin America or in Spain."
torris
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Posted - Jul 30 2010 : 3:21PM
What is the ethnic heritage of Audrey? Middle East is a big area. Suddenly I'm interested!
torris
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Deep within Mila's anus
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Posted - Jul 30 2010 : 3:22PM
Two of my best friends are Sicilian and they don't like to be called Italian. They are Sicilian! They see Italy as a foreign occupier
torris
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Posted - Jul 30 2010 : 3:23PM
Barely Legal magazine is the worst offender at this. Tuesday Cross is wiped entirely clean of her tats. Esp. the open heart one in the middle of her chest
torris
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Posted - Jul 30 2010 : 3:24PM
or MILFS wihtout stretch marks lol
torris
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Posted - Jul 30 2010 : 3:25PM
Yeah, those Devils Tight Indian Pussy are just absurd. Just b/c you grab a random name out of the Mumbai white pages, doesn't mean I don't recognize Nataly Cruz and Jayden Williams(!) as Hindi cooze.
elgringoviejo58
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Posted - Jul 30 2010 : 4:16PM
The Truth in Pornography Section of the Better Business Bureau has been notified and is investigating these matters.
Lord Lucifer
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Sins of the flesh
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Posted - Jul 30 2010 : 5:50PM
^ Hahahaha! Good one!
According to her wikipedia page, she's Spanish/German:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audrey_Bitoni
According to her iafd.com page, she's multi-ethnic:
http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=AudreyBitoni/gender=f/audrey-bitoni.htm
According to her official webpage, she's caucasian:
http://www.audreybitoni.com/audreybitonibio.php
WHATEVER she is, she is the most drop-dead gorgeous girl in the biz IMO.
ChodeMasterJ
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Posted - Jul 31 2010 : 12:47AM

And Kelli, I'd assume latina means they are from Latin America or have heritage in a Latin America country, not a country in Europe who happens to speak the same language as those in Latin America. That goes against what it says on Wiki, but that's how it's used where I'm from which is about 30% latino.
elgringoviejo58
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Posted - Jul 31 2010 : 7:34AM
Re Rebeca Linares didn't De Sangre Espanol used to be a complement? BTW es Rebeca Castellana o de Catalunya.?
 
ScottMcGowan
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149 Posts
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Posted - Jul 31 2010 : 10:30AM
That doesn't necessarily make it a good idea, does it? I'm not trying to dog ya, here. Simply making an observation.
Porn girls' Driver's licenses have been posted (without the courtesy of covering vital information) online before, but that wasn't a good idea, was it? Just because something is done, even commonly, doesn't necessarily mean it's a good idea.
elgringoviejo58
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Posted - Jul 31 2010 : 3:57PM
Just found out that Rebeca Linares is neither Castellana nor Catalana, she is Euskadi.
Algaliarept
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Posted - Aug 1 2010 : 7:34AM
this reminds me of something stupid that they constantly do in mainstream TV. Several actors will play multiple characters over the course of a show like Law and Order or CSI, and we are expected not to notice. For example, Jerry Orbach once played a defense attorney in a large role in an episode of Law and Order, and only a few years later he began his long running role a "Det. Lenny Briscoe" and we weren't supposed to notice?! How stupid do the producers think the public is exactly?
Algaliarept
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Posted - Aug 1 2010 : 7:38AM
wow, that would be a real shock if the buyer had no knowledge of Tuesday Cross whatsoever before she disrobed
Goodspeed
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Posted - Aug 1 2010 : 7:46AM
Most descriptions for web scenes with the words "wet pussy" are lying.
jizzyjay
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914 Posts
10/07
Posted - Aug 18 2010 : 10:11PM
Here's my beef, I brought Candy stripers on dvd.It said all the origninal scenes had been put back on the movie.That's the 2 fisting scenes,one with Amber Hunt, the other with Nancy Hoffman.Well it's only inply that there was a fisting scene going. You see the hand going up to the vagina and just as the hand going in the scene cuts to something else.Another video called Alex Derenzy Passion,in the oringinal film Gayle Sterling has 5 other girls at her place and she's taking butt plugs and putting them in the girls asses. In the reissue that entire scene is cut out.I'm also tire of people calling Alexis Silver latin.She's not latin, she half black/hslf jewis.
Bert Piel
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Posted - Sep 25 2010 : 7:17AM
Surprise is half the fun.
mich
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Posted - Sep 25 2010 : 11:32PM
They don't think you're stupid. They're not trying to fool anyone. These are actors playing roles.
monicamattosrocks1
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Posted - Oct 2 2010 : 8:46PM
Spanish word "Latina or Latino" means a Latin American.
Spanish word "Hispano" means one who speaks Spanish. English translation of Hispano is "Hispanic".
In the US both words are used to catagorize Spanish speakers or one with descendents from a Latin American country. Those terms are almost like "Kleenx" which we all call tissues. I'm 3RD generation Mexican American so not being racist. Just how we look at the way we got categorized by the US CENSUS.
So someone could be both but not always. ie" Philipinos are neither yet speak Spanish. Confusing I know.
Example of both: Zuleidy -Zuleidy.jpg Spanish father, Columbian mother born inSantiago de Cali, Colombia. So Latina since bornin in Latin America. AND Hispanic since lives in Los Angeles & US would census would list her as both Latina & Hispanic.
Example of neither:
Rebecca Linares is Basque. rebeca-linares-006.jpg Born in San Sebastián, Basque Country, Spain,which is an autonomous community in Spain. The Basque Country has always maintained a very notable singularity. It has its own language, Euskera. Basques are still very typically West European in terms of their Y-DNA and mtDNA sequences So she is not of Latin America nor Hispanic descent. Basque is their own bloodline.
Another example are Brazilian's. Brazilian are not Hispanic. Best example is Gisele Caroline Bündchen. gisele-bundchen-.jpg The FAMOUS Brazilian model. She is of German descent and speaks Portuguese the official language of Brazil. So she is neither Latina nor Hispanic.
As for marketing someone as Latina it's been going on for years. Hollywood had Katherine Zeta Jones catherina_zeta_jones_legend_of_zorro.jpg
Bert Piel
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Posted - Dec 4 2010 : 6:26PM
Bugged me too.
simon33333 All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 26 2010 : 10:40PM
They do not think that you are anyone else is stupid, there called actors for a reason, they take on different roles. If they did not mainstream films would not exist.
simon33333 All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 26 2010 : 10:51PM
Hi Bert, Off subject. Perhaps you would like to tell me something about what you heard about Stepfanie Kramer. You stated your brother heard from people in the 70's in Newyork.I e-mailed you and never heard from u. Just a favor of reply. Alot of people think iam crazy. Too many people have come forward and proven me right to some extent. Have not done much research in light of the fact that my father died this year.



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