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mishabisha
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3/09
Posted - Mar 27 2009 : 6:22AM
I am very curious about phenomen called anal porn. I am asking you, if anybody know when first anal scene in porn was released? I am not so old so I dont know what was situation 20 years ago, but the fact is that anal has almost rapid growth in porn. Can anybody can describe what was porn in 80, 90 and 2000? We all know what is situtation know. I am asking you if you compare year 2000 and 2009, do you think anal has growth? And finally the last question, what will bw porn in 2019? Will there be even more anal, maybe pussy porn will become just fetish,...
ntfighter
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Posted - Mar 27 2009 : 8:46AM
Maybe it will. Pussy hair has become a fetish. For a while there it seemed as if natural breast was heading that way.
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Oblivious

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Posted - Mar 27 2009 : 10:56AM
I'm thinking it peaked in 2004 or so. Seems like I am seeing less anal in the market now. Someone should run the stats.
Someone much smarter than me will reply. I'm sure of it!
bedfordinho
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Champagne Super Nova
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Posted - Mar 27 2009 : 11:47AM
^ No I think your right does seem to be on the decrease. Dps will eventually not exist at this rate.
rc7394
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Posted - Mar 27 2009 : 12:17PM
First anal scene was in early 80's or 70's. Seka did anal once in a while and Veronica Hart and a couple other performers back then.
 
4theheart
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Posted - Mar 27 2009 : 1:33PM
No I don't think pussy porn will become fetish(thank goodness),@ least as perceived by most viewers) if only because, it's still the dominant form of sex(and in part due to its biological functions)and so there will be viewer interest in it(demand needing supply) And within the porn world I think the case can be made that the trend is stabilized/slowing. If you take the largest agency like LA direct, something like 12-14 girls do anal out of 100+ girls on the site, so about 10% do it. And that number hasn't really grown if you compare the last couple years to this year. Because while a few new girls do it now, prior girls who had done it, are retired now(vanessa lane, delilah strong etc.). Jules Jordan has mentioned here that he has a hard time finding new talent that do anal because of agents advice to starlets. This may be a good or bad thing, according to ones tastes, but I'd agree with the others that the trend of anal in porn is not rising and is probably decreasing.(although I don't have many hard statistics to back taht up)
Algaliarept
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Posted - Mar 28 2009 : 8:44AM
I would hardly say that anal is increasing in frequency
Ronald
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Posted - Mar 28 2009 : 1:39PM
we need more anal and more DP!
jettyman
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Posted - Mar 28 2009 : 2:13PM
I think the studio's have run out of ways to incorporate anal, butt, ass and gape into movie titles to tell the buyer it's of that type. It seems most movies be it teen, milf, i/r, blond or tits etc, has at least a couple of anal scenes in the release. That makes none anal movies in mainstream porn few and far between, do you ever see on a box cover "Non Anal edition" I don't think I've seen it, I think anal has become expected in porn. Tits seem to be the flavor of the month at the moment like anal was a few years ago, there are lots of fuller tits (not over sized) movies around. Tit movies 10 years ago were full of overweight women who had fat tits, now tits are in fashion the girls are young, trim, good looking and like tit play, which I think is great. So going back to the original post, what's better than a full breasted teen getting fucked in the ass? not much, so I think anal is here and here it will stay....J.
Bluto
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3/09
Posted - Mar 28 2009 : 4:32PM
The demise of anal porn has been predicted many times.
The NY Post ran a series in the 80s saying porn was dead, because anal porn was seen as an extreme desperate act for sales.
Brandy Alexander constantly yapped in RAME in the 90s that anal was just a fad, about to disappear.
The fact is that gonzo porn is bought primarily by disfunctional types, who wouldn't pay a nickel to see vaginal sex. Now, or in 2050.


Dan
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Posted - Mar 28 2009 : 7:22PM
Perhaps the amount of anal sex in porn films depends not just on the taste of porn fans but also on the willingness of the porn ladies to have anal sex. And the willingness of porn ladies to have anal sex probably depends a lot on the competition they have to deal with.
When there are more ladies entering the porn business for one reason or another. Then a bigger percentage of them probably will agree to do anal scenes. Because both the ladies and the film makers in such a situation are competing for a limited number of porn fans. And they naturally try to out-do each other in terms of nastiness, naughtiness, and the hardcore.
From what I can remember, anal sex in porn films really took off in 1990's. Probably because a lot of East European porn ladies flooded the porn market. And in their competition with each other, these ladies ended up doing some really hot anals and DPs with the hardy guys.
When economy got better in Eastern Europe. Then good-looking women from there found other opportunities besides making porn. Which decreased the competition between porn ladies. And which was probably why anal sex in porn films began to decline after about 2004.
Perhaps now there are a lot more women willing to have anal sex in porn films because of the economic crisis and lack of opportunities to make money in other ways. But now the studios and the porn fans don't have as much money as they used to have. And that might be why porn studios are not taking advantage of the willing ladies to make more anal porn. The studios do have to pay the ladies more for anal and even more for DP sex. And with the money being tight. Perhaps film producers often choose the cheaper vaginal act in order to cut their costs of production.
But this economic crisis won't last forever. Eventually, people and studios will have more money to spend on porn. And at that time probably there will be another flood of anal porn. Because it takes time for the unemployment to decrease during an economic recovery. And many porn ladies at that time would still be willing to have anal sex in order to get ahead of their competition.
JohnW
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Posted - Mar 28 2009 : 10:08PM
I think some may put too much weight on factors like the economy in the US or Eastern Europe. The internet revolution is the main factor in my opinion. Suddenly it was a LOT easier to get hold of porn, and suddenly the choices were much more varied. Now you could actually get hold of stuff that matched your particular fetish, or you could develop the fetish.
When I first saw porn in the early 90s, I remember a lot of it was "ugly" and much less appealing than today. Clearly, I didnt know where to fidn the good stuff. And neither did most people. Back then I thought a lot of the girls were ugly, cocks creeped me out, and I would probably have found anal to be disgusting.
Then the internet came around. Suddenly you could get hold of all kinds of porn. Now you could find anal porn that looked good. Suddenly many fetishes got less creepy as there was more competition and more options within each fetish.
I was not interested in anal until 2 years ago or so, in my mid 20s. And the reason was not that I wasn't exposed to porn before that... far from, I was (and is) a horny bastard (like all guys :P ). But it just didn't catch my attention, and I was turned off to some extent by all the talk about "dirty anal". I was always more into the visual of oral sex rather than penetration in porn anyway.
BUT I slowly found out that there was in fact some clean, gentle anal sex out there, where the girl seemed to enjoy it. That's how I came to be able to watch it... I was never one of those who had an obsession about it, quite the opposite. But in the end, as long as it is presented in a "nice" way, I am able to enjoy it. I suppose that is how many "new" people have been brought aboard the anal train.
Edited by - JohnW on 3/28/2009 10:09:12 PM
Altair
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Posted - Mar 28 2009 : 11:47PM
I dislike anal porn and only watch it if the girl is incredibly hot and she has no other non-anal videos on a particular site. The main reason I dislike it is that I can never convince myself that the girl really enjoys it. Sex is best for me if both sides are getting off on it, and anal seems like it's just designed to find a tighter hole for the guy to stick his dick into. That may well be false and these actresses who claim to enjoy anal may actually do so. But I have a hard time believing that it's the case-mainly because my past girlfriends didn't want to have anything to do with it whenever I brought the subject up.
rc7394
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Posted - Mar 29 2009 : 10:55AM
Give it some time. The reason why there's not more anal right now is because there are tons of very young girls. Wait til the porn pool gets a little older. Remember a few years ago tons of girls were doing anal like Katja Kassin, Monica Sweetheart (who was never afraid of anal), Jayna Oso, Vanessa Lane, Julie Silver, Jane Darling, Melissa Lauren, Bambola, Luci Thai, Sandra Romain, etc. And some girls refuse(d) to do anal: Nikki Benz (did it 1x), Lichelle Marie, Lily Thai, etc.
ALL european movie actresses nowadays do anal which is fantastic (Dorcel, ATV, Pink'O films).
spearmint
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3/09
Posted - Apr 5 2009 : 12:21AM
That's odd, because it seems to me that anal content began to skyrocket around 2004-2005. But that may be due to the increase in demand for it at the same time, which possibly skewed the popularity of anal porn.
No matter what the truth is about anal sex within porn, heterosexual anal sex outside of porn has been increasing. At least, it was prior to the worldwide economic crises.
 
TheMilkman
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Posted - Apr 5 2009 : 10:09AM
Georgina Spelvin did a DP in Devil In Miss Jones..1972.
bigdick
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Posted - Apr 5 2009 : 12:05PM
Less anal in porn mean less money I spend. I've not rented a RLD video for almost two years. But Jay Sin and Jules Jordan, Brian Pumper (Gapeman)Evil Angel stuff had been stacking up in my collection.
More extreme anal sex is what the industry needs to continue it's growth and stop the decline that has been going on over the years.
Lange
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3/04
Posted - Apr 5 2009 : 4:44PM
The problem for me with most american gonzo studios (Zero Tolerance, 3rd Degree, RLD etc): For every anal themed movie they produce you get 10 milf movies or barely legal movies with only few or none anal scenes. And the girls in the anal movies are the same 15-20 women. Luckily for me the same is not the case with porn produced in Europe. It just seems to me as us europeans demand more anal than american fans does.
SmellsLikeAss
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Posted - Apr 6 2009 : 10:24AM
I'm with you guys on this one, if it's not anal then I don't buy it.
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Posted - Apr 7 2009 : 1:34AM
And Linda Lovelace and Dolly Sharp did anal in the original Deep Throat.
I'm sure there was anal sex in some of those 1920's stag loops.
spearmint
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3/09
Posted - Apr 7 2009 : 1:38AM
I hope it's true about anal sex being very prevalent in Euro porn. Then I can be amused when hypocritical Europeans claim that Americans are stupid.
More extreme anal sex would only accelerate the decline. But don't take my word for it; let the guilty feelings build in viewers. It certainly is interesting to observe how people deal with them.
camaban
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Posted - Apr 7 2009 : 4:54AM
Lange, there are not more girls in the US who do anal these days, therefore the same women again and again. And yes, that's totally different in Europe, and yes the pornfans in Europe demand much more anal than in the US. The logical consequence is that maybe 90% of the DVDs I buy is Europorn. I would buy more US produced porn, but only if more US girls do anal, not the same bunch over and over.
Edited by - camaban on 4/7/2009 4:54:59 AM
Lange
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Make Gapes not War
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3/04
Posted - Apr 7 2009 : 8:09AM
Me to. I haven't bought a DVD with american girls in years. Christoph Clark is the king. Great girls and lots of anal. Every time I find a new american girl at ADT I always get disappointed when almost none of them do anal or are expecting to do anal in the nearest future.
camaban
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Germany
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8/03
Posted - Apr 7 2009 : 8:48AM
If you ask them here, they like anal sex in their private lives. But on screen, never or maybe later or only for their website. I can't imagine that this strategy makes more money during a porn career than the one of a girl who starts doing anal from the beginning or shortly after. The sad thing is that there's a lot of American girls who I would like to see taking it up the ass. But pussy only - not for me, thanks.
Lange
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Make Gapes not War
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Posted - Apr 7 2009 : 9:07AM
Yes it's sad when you hear someone saying that they like anal in their personal life but don't want to do it in front of a camera. They only want to do if their popularity is going down. European girls don't have a lot of limitations - I really like that. Many of them are drop dead gorgeous and are willing to do all kinds of nasty things.
 
Chriss
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4/09
Posted - Apr 7 2009 : 11:43AM
Bro, you are so on point. I hate when I hear that. That's such a crock of crap. I don't even think SAD is the word for it. They like it in there private life but they don't do it on camera. What's up with that. Maybe it's the money they are demanding? What I think sucks is when a porn star decides to do anal and there out of shape. I finally saw this ebony chick Diana Devoe do anal. It sucked because she waited to long and she got fat than decided to do it. If you saw her ass back when she start her career you would have sworn she was going to do anal like in her second video but she waited like 6 years to do. At least she gave her fans a anal before she departed.
I would like to see more anal scenes by American pornstars but in a progressive way.

Edited by - chriss on 4/7/2009 11:48:28 AM

warrenwest67
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Posted - Apr 7 2009 : 4:15PM
I have seen some Greek mosics that depict DP's and that was, what 1000 years before Christ? Since it was on a wall of a public building i would call that porn for its day.
JohnW
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Posted - Apr 7 2009 : 5:48PM
They can do whatever they want to whenever they want. What is the point of whining like it is their duty to do whatever you want? If you wish someone would do anal, fine. But if they don't, don't spend your time whining... move on. I wish some stars hadn't retired.. but it's their choice. You should be glad that they are getting naked on camera in the first place. Go shop for the stuff you like instead of being unhappy with the choices of people who have every right to choose how and what to do on camera.
Edited by - JohnW on 4/7/2009 5:49:17 PM
Porn Scout
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Posted - Apr 7 2009 : 6:11PM
Fewer American girls do it, especially the really hot ones, but the ones that do can generally work as much as they want - again, especially the super hot ones.
ninja1
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1/08
Posted - Apr 7 2009 : 6:40PM
Please explain what, visually, convinced you that she would quickly do anal?
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Posted - Apr 7 2009 : 7:25PM
Maybe they want to only have anal sex with their boyfriends because they can trust them to be gentle and call it off at any moment it becomes too uncomfortable or painful. On the set, that wouldn't be as much of an option.
I think it's notable that, it seems to be at least, that more successful US girls tend to stick around longer than Euro girls. This may have something to do with the propensity for anal early on in Europorn.
camaban
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Germany
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Posted - Apr 8 2009 : 4:05AM
^ I disagree. It's not because they go the anal route very early, it's because most of them didn't plan a longer career in the porn business as their US counterparts do. And in that short time they want to earn as much money as possible. And that's a good thing.
[mod edit: removed quote]
Edited by - killbillvol69 on 4/8/2009 4:23:45 AM
Chriss
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4/09
Posted - Apr 8 2009 : 4:12PM
She has a big juicy butt and alot of her other female co stars in videos with her did anal. So I figured she would jump on the anal wagon. She did eventually.
Johnw, I was not whining. I was just agreeing with Lange.
Edited by - chriss on 4/8/2009 4:14:43 PM
Zondag
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Posted - Apr 8 2009 : 4:33PM
I am not a great fan of anal in porn movies, but I agree with the fact that anal is more important in EU than in the USA... think about hottest girls doing anal, one of the greatest was Sandra Romain, an european hottie, as well as Monica Sweetheart (i love the way she fucks!). A few italians movies are produced every year and almost every scene contains anal sex; Rocco is obsessed with anal and has done a lot of anal themed movies.
Personally I don't think that today there's a particular interest for anal...for example, I love Brazzers productions: there are a lot of beautiful and sexy girls but in the majority of scenes you don't find anal, even if the gal involved normally does it (i.d. Carmella Bing, Shyla Stylez, Shy Love, just to name the most known). A lot of girls are incredibly hot without doing anal at all, for me Jayden Jaymes, Memphis Monroe, Nikki Benz, Lichelle Marie are damn sexy and they don't seem to do anal at all.
Finally, i have to admit that I watched Eva Angelina doing anal for the first time (for me) and that did turn me on a lot! :)
JUSTWRONG69
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Posted - May 4 2009 : 11:05PM
Hell yes! It should be EXPECTED! Any girl wanting to go into porn should be paid well, and do everything. I only support anal actresses at the least.
 
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Posted - May 4 2009 : 11:17PM
Does the name Tiffany Mynx ring a bell? While I agree that Sandra was a tour de force, and Monica is indeed a sweetheart, the Mynxster is still the champion and will remain the champion until she officially retires.
I say that with over a dozen of my favorite performers being European, btw.
PS - Anal sex is a less frequent occurrence in American-made porn these days, probably because it costs so much more than vaginal, and we all know that companies have seen a serious loss of revenue to the internet. That's my best guess at cause-and-effect, anyway.



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