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OK the DVD was a great success. Now I want to try it with a read hard drive. I'd like a fairly large one, at least 120G. Does it work the same as the DVD, installation-wise?
Make sure to check what type of hard drive you currently have. Older PC's will typically have an IDE hard drive. The connectors on an IDE hard drive are pretty much the same as on the DVD burner that you installed. Here's a picture of the back of an IDE hard drive.
Newer PC's typically have an SATA. This is what the back of an SATA hard drive looks like.
Whatever style hard drive that you currently have is the same style that you'll want to buy.
Edited to fix first link.
Edited by - Bill on 4/18/2007 9:48:47 PM
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Posted - Apr 18 2007 : 8:31PM
You accidentally posted the same one, both Sata.
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Posted - Apr 18 2007 : 8:34PM
Hi Bill, I just wanted to say that while this may be true for neech's mother board, many mother boards have no problem accepting both types of hard drive connection. It is not an either/or situation.
(I'm running 2 SATA and one IDE drive)
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Posted - Apr 18 2007 : 8:35PM
never mind.
Edited by - nietzsche on 4/18/2007 8:45:04 PM
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Posted - Apr 18 2007 : 8:38PM
nietzsche, do you know what brand/model number mother board you are using in your PC (I am assuming you're aren't on a mac)?
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Posted - Apr 18 2007 : 8:44PM
P4p something. I see it when it boots but I don't remember it at this moment.
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Posted - Apr 18 2007 : 8:59PM
It would be handy to know to research help for your question. Either way you go though, if you've installed a DVD drive you'll likely find hard drive installation a snap, it's easy.
Using both hard drives, my only issues have ever been that my SATA cables jiggle loose more easily then my IDE connections do when I move my computer. My are held in place using pieces of tape after finding this out.
The more you dig around in your computer the more confident you will become with it.
The only sure thing I *can* tell you about hard drive installation is an easy was to make sure you're grounded when you're doing it. And you can do this easily by leaving your computer plugged in while you are doing servicing but unplugging the big connection between the PSU and your motherboard. this means that while you are touching your computer's internal workings and the case you are grounded. Just remember to plug power back into the MoBo. when you're done.
Right. But based on the fact that Neech wanted to buy an external DVD player because is was easier than installing an internal one, I figure that he's looking for an easy plug & play solution using cables that already exist in his PC, rather than trying to figure out how to connect something different to his motherboard.
I did this. Piece of cake. Just make sure you are grounded before reaching into stuff. I had bad luck with a Western Digital drive though. It isn't the installatin - that was just setting the jumpers, sticking it in, and hooking it up. The drive itself was faulty.
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Posted - Apr 18 2007 : 10:55PM
P4P800-VM. Is that what you need to know?
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Posted - Apr 18 2007 : 10:57PM
Exactly. I don't want too much work. Actually, I don't want to screw anything up.
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Posted - Apr 18 2007 : 11:03PM
Yes. I use ASUS boards as well and have never had problems with them.
Your board can use SATA drives and that would be my choice for it, because they are faster then IDE connected drives. And you won't need to fuss with any jumpers.
The only other advice from me is that if you have multiple drives it is handy to space them a slot apart (if you have the space in your case) when installing them due to heat issues. This is not a consideration that usually matters too much with hard drives, but anything I pay money for I try to keep in ideal condition.
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Posted - Apr 18 2007 : 11:05PM
I think I'm going to buy that bitch next week. :neechwank:
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Posted - Apr 18 2007 : 11:06PM
Oops, no longer available. Are Seagates generally good quality?
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Posted - Apr 18 2007 : 11:09PM
I think seagate drives are great, and they are quieter then most others I know of.
Meritline won't do you wrong. I've bought much from them, and newegg too. Best prices overall usually newegg. Best service and support after the sale, I hate to say it: CDW.
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Posted - Apr 19 2007 : 1:17AM
ATA and SATA drives use different power connectors.
Computer power supplies manufactured for the last several years have leads for both ATA and SATA drives.
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Posted - Apr 19 2007 : 1:34AM
And if for some (bizarre) reason your power supply doesn't have SATA connectors, powers adapters for molex are available for around 2.00$ an most computer shops.
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Posted - Apr 19 2007 : 1:51AM
$20 cheaper at Newegg. The Newegg one is OEM (just the drive itself in a silver bag; no box, no SATA cable, no little bag of screws, no instructions, no installation CD). Hopefully, the one you ordered is at least the retail version (that comes with all that stuff), but the Meritline listing doesn't seem to specify that it is.
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Posted - Apr 19 2007 : 10:06PM
The newegg one sounds like it's reconditioned or something. I hope mine comes with all the bells and whistles or else I'm going to be bugging you people.
No. Newegg just typically has better prices than Meritline. One of the exceptions to that rule is DVD Burners. That's because Meritline is a big seller of recordable DVD's. So, like printer manufacturers who sell printers cheaply in order to sell ink, Meritline sells DVD burners cheaply in order to sell recordable DVD's.
I would actually be surprised if the drive that you bought is the retail version (comes in a retail box and includes cables, etc...(the DVD burner that you bought didn't come with anything, right?)
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Posted - Apr 19 2007 : 11:10PM
Either way, we'll be happy to help you install it.
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Posted - Apr 19 2007 : 11:26PM
The DVD came with a sheet of instructions in about 5 languages and nothing else. Not even screws, which i did not need fortunately.
Generally, Newegg = lowest prices for consumer grade PC stuff. TigerDirect is not bad, either, but I may get more "bite your tongue" from that comment, too. Meritline is best for blank recordable media, but like I said, they have never done me wrong on anything I've ordered (and I've ordered a few external drive enclosures and the like) and never felt ripped off.
Hardware's admonishment reminds me that last time I had a problem with something from CDW, and called them about it, they said it had been more than 30 days since the invoice date and I would have to contact the manufacturer directly for warranty repair. They suck. I dealt with Pioneer RMA, and they were nice but it took sending that 109 burner back twice before they finally replaced it (and about two months, and all for a $40 piece of hardware, what a chap in the ass).
Hope and pray you don't have to do the manufacturer RMA thing. IT gets old fast. Pun intended.
I disagree with that one. I've found that Rima.com beats Meritline on all blank recordable media that I buy (although I still check with Meritline when I'm about to buy, just in case they have one of their sales going on).
The fact that Meritline has a pdf of the Seagate product manual online tends to make me believe that you won't even get that sheet of instructions this time.
Unfortunately, it's virtually impossible to spot a faulty drive unless it's either DOA or it dies shortly after installation. They can sometimes run fine for a while before they die. Every hard drive I've bought in the past few years has started making weird noises after a few months of use. None of them has actually died yet but it's hard to trust a hard drive that's making strange noises with irreplaceable files. It's basically a useless drive if you can't trust it.
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Posted - Apr 26 2007 : 7:20PM
Got the hard drive today. No instructions, no mounting screws, no nothing. Just a hard drive. Will advise.
I'm ready for you to start posting questions about mvc oop code constructs. And answer my questions about squid caching proxy server - mine hosed and I'm not sure why.
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Posted - Apr 26 2007 : 11:18PM
All right, so where do I get screws for this thing? What do I ask for?
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Posted - Apr 27 2007 : 12:51AM
Go to a computer store and ask for a set "hard drive screws" and/or "case screws". Surplus parts stores have them as well.
Likely they will cost less then a dollar or they may be free.
You wouldn't happen to have on old PC, that you haven't thrown out yet, lying around somewhere, do you? If so, cannibalize it for the screws that you need.
Otherwise, you can get the screws from these guys for about a buck for four of them.
Another option would be to see if there are any computer fairs near you. The ones around here have gotten much smaller over the last few years. But they are still a good place to pick up things such as cables, tools and hardware (such as screws).
If you go to a small computer store (as opposed to Best Buy), they might give them to you. They cost next to nothing. If you do much of this, you end up with a bucket full of them.
Just make sure they go in nicely. If they're too big, you risk going through the case and shorting out something inside. But usually that takes a lot of force and it should be obvious that something's wrong. If the screws go in nicely, you're golden.
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Posted - Apr 27 2007 : 7:12PM
Correct. I need a power connector, and the other connector. Whence?
You can get the cables that you need at a CompUSA. But they are tyoically overpriced. If you don't have a small computer shop locally, you can get an 18" SATA power/data cable from Newegg for $3.99. Unfortunately, the shipping is $4.99.
Before you buy, open your PC and make sure that you don't already have a SATA power cable. IF you do, then you just need a data cable.
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Posted - Apr 27 2007 : 8:06PM
Are you sure you need the adapter for the power cable? If you haven't already, check the computer's power supply (the usually gray box that has the fan in it the blows out the back of the computer) for unused wires that are typically bundled up right where they come out of the metal housing. Unless your machine is quite old, there are probably going to be one or two SATA drive power cables in that bundle.
Any computer store should have what you need, or newegg.com if you're afraid to leave the house. CompUSA-type stores might only have overpriced bling-bling name-brand cables, so try a mom-and-pop store first, if there are any where you live.