New Pornstar Interviews - [more]
Audrey Madison Interview

"I really want even more DPs and double anal. And more gangbang stuff."
All Forums > The Feature Side > The Feature Side Forum Page 60 > Instructional Videos
AuthorPost
darkangel
Member

87 Posts
4/03
Posted - Mar 18 2004 : 10:59AM
(I thought that this would have been discussed before, but my searches came up empty so here goes)


My wife and I are becoming more exploratory in our love making and feel that we have a lot to learn that would increase our pleasure. I thought that we might try watching a couple instructional videos just to get an idea of what we might be able to do differently, but the trick is that my wife doesn't like either porn or talking dirty one bit.

We have recently been enjoying some bondage/submission, and I think that a good example of what I'm looking for instructionally is the "Nina Hartley ... Submission 1." I'm concerned, however, that its probably too sexually explicit and would be too much of a turn off for her (screen shots show a man ejaculating onto a woman and that doesn't seem like domination of a male to me). I could be wrong, reviews say that its very light so I don't know...

Essentially, I'm looking for sexually explicit instructional films that downplay the visual aspect in exchange for a more clinical approach (but not too cold either). I know I'm looking for a needle in a hay stack and probably wont find exactly what I'm looking for (we may get the Nina Hartley guide and just skip the explicit parts) but I thought that I would ask for advice, suggestions, etc before just settling for something.

Thanks in advance as always.

TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - Mar 18 2004 : 11:32AM
I have not seen any of their work, but you might try www.bettersex.com.

-T.C.

darkangel
Member

87 Posts
4/03
Posted - Mar 18 2004 : 12:11PM
Thanks for the quick response Tony. I actually have been looking at several of the titles that they carry as good candidates, but I can find very little to give me an idea of the content/quality of the film (screenshots, box pictures, etc.) I'd like to have an idea of how things will look once I pop in the video to possibly save face.
lindi
Senior Member

12345
3205 Posts
9/02
Posted - Mar 18 2004 : 1:27PM
I have seen the Nina Hartleys.

Domination 1 - please read the review - this is really very tame.

Domination 2 It's a totally mild movie. If you get any milder, you are having a tea party in white linens on a soft-focus, grassy, daisy-filled meadow, in slow motion. Truly!

Even this part was funny and cute, not nasty:

YogaGrrl
self-removed user

757 Posts
12/01
Posted - Mar 18 2004 : 1:30PM
I like Learning the Ropes 4. Frank and Ona do a great job explaining bondage (and spanking) techniques in a completely nonthreatening way. They talk about the sensual aspects of it and even briefly discuss tantra. They also tell you how to construct your own bondage equipment easily and cheaply with materials available from the hardware store. IIRC, Ona gets partially to fully nude, but Frank does not.

Audiovisual quality is a bit weak, but oh well. I'd still recommend it.

 
TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - Mar 18 2004 : 1:37PM
The other thing you might try is to have a look at sites like Goodvibes.com, Babeland.com, Blowfish.com

They all have a strong education/enlightenment angle to their marketing and carry quite a few educational titles. Browse through their video collections, then come back to ADT to see if any of them have been reviewed here.

Of course you should also pick up a copy of the best porno movie ever made: Marie and Jack: A Hardcore Love Story

-T.C.

darkangel
Member

87 Posts
4/03
Posted - Mar 18 2004 : 2:22PM
Great sites Tony! We'll peruse those in more depth later!
Lindi, would you recommend them to someone who doesn't like and has never seen porn because of the standard Christian biases against it? My ultimate goal is to try to help her understand that sex can be a lot more relaxed and fun than Christians make it out to be. For the better part of 18 years she was taught that sex was a horrendous sin and she's finally starting to see the joy in it and see the possibilities.

Now, to maybe help your answer we are both Goths and love latex and leather and light domination so that's definitely a pluss, I guess I'm just a little hesitant that the nature of the sex would be more toward porn and what would keep a guy interested than what would keep her interested.

And quality is probably a must so as not to reinforce her idea that most if not all sexually explicit material is shot on shakey cam in a hotel room, warehouse, etc and be a complete turn-off.

Thanks again for your input.

Loraine
Senior Member

1559 Posts
3/04
Posted - Mar 18 2004 : 6:41PM
darkangel, Hi, I'm new over here, still finding my way around although I've used the reviews on this site to inform my porn buying choices...thank+you reviewers!

A couple of suggestions: It may be worth considering tackling your search in two parts. The first part might be introducing your wife to some gentle porn as a start and then seeking out material that may offer more specific ideas for new activities to add to your exploration.

Tony's Marie and Jack is sweet,hot,tender and just gorgeous, I'm biased...M&J are often in my DVD player. :)

We've also been watching "Sexual Secrets" from the Alexander Institute, and would highly recommend it as an introduction to adult film/programs (full review on freddyandeddy.com, sorry folks couldn't find one here) the AI have a site www.lovingsex.com

Sexual Secrets is a 6hr DVD with six women talking about the kind of sex they like. It has a high quality production feel, warm lighting, good sound, nice music, sets that appear to be real bedrooms,a gym, bathrooms and showers and a rather hot scene in a home laundry. The programs have an unhurried leisurely approach without all the exaggerated moaning and contortions of most mainstream porn.

Sexual Secrets features attractive couples having a great time; hot,playful,loving sex. The sex is explicit but I don't recall a focus on penetration shots, I think you'd be hard pressed to find anything that would shock or offend a newcomer to adult material. It's all very beautiful.

Yikes, I'm heading into the longest post in history syndrome...hope this of help. :)

YogaGrrl
self-removed user

757 Posts
12/01
Posted - Mar 18 2004 : 7:17PM
Hey, Loraine's here! Welcome to Adult DVD Talk, and post all you like!
Loraine
Senior Member

1559 Posts
3/04
Posted - Mar 18 2004 : 7:21PM
Thank you sweetness, you know me, brevity is not my strong point.
darkangel
Member

87 Posts
4/03
Posted - Mar 19 2004 : 9:32AM
Hi Loraine - Thanks for your suggestions. I tried to find the review you mentioned but couldn't (I'll look deeper later on) and I did find that the Alexander Institute seems to have several different releases of "Sexual Secrets" with different cast members(?). Can you narrow down the field?

Again I'd like to point out that my wife is at this time still very much against the idea of porn in general, so what I'm looking for is something more along the sexually explicit educational line (more directed sex rather than just sex scenes, maybe?) that we might be able to learn from. If my wife decides that she can watch sex and enjoy it without being struck by lightning then that's just an added bonus, not my main goal.

TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - Mar 19 2004 : 9:38AM
I hope this doesn't sound completely self-serving, but I believe that M&J might possibly be the best possible introduction your wife could have to watching sexually explicit films.

If you contact me privately, we'll figure out a way to loan you a shop copy.

-T.C.

YogaGrrl
self-removed user

757 Posts
12/01
Posted - Mar 19 2004 : 9:48AM
Here's a link to the Freddy and Eddy review that Loraine mentioned.

And seriously, if and when your wife does feel ready to explore visual erotica, I second (or third) the recommendation for Marie and Jack. You can't do better than that.

Meanwhile, I haven't yet seen a DVD that combines pure instruction (no explicitness) with very high production values. If you're looking in the BDSM realm, I suspect that's going to be an especially tough order to fulfill. I'll keep on the lookout, though. Meanwhile, Learning the Ropes 4 is still the closest thing I can think of, since it contains no intercourse and is done in a very loving way. It's shot in a living room, not a warehouse, if that helps.

Edited by - YogaGrrl on 3/19/2004 10:01:56 AM

darkangel
Member

87 Posts
4/03
Posted - Mar 19 2004 : 10:44AM
I know this is a tall order to fill, and I will probably just try to rent a couple dvd's and talk with her about her reactions to gauge if this is even worth pursuing. We will probably check into some books as well but I don't think that they can quite capture the idea like video can.

Thanks for the link, "Sexual Secrets" sounds like a great segue into visual erotica if she's receptive (but right now I don't think she is).

I really appreciate your help and advice and from what I've heard of M&J I don't doubt that it is a great film, but that buzzword "Hardcore" in the title puts it immediately out of the running at least for now. Again, maybe in the future after some of the taboos have been erased.

Edited by - darkangel on 3/19/2004 10:44:38 AM

TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - Mar 19 2004 : 11:48AM
You know the orginal title was simply "A Love Story" but my feeling is that people weren't buying it because they didn't think it was an explicit movie. In my mind "Hardcore" is a bit of a pun, but cause the film is far more hardcore in it's sentimentality than in it's imagery (still, there's plenty of penetration in it.) We changed the title and sale went up about four fold.

FWIW, I've had people tell me that thought it was less explicit than the Spice channel, even through Spice doesn't show penetration. I think this is because the explicit scenes in M&J are well integrated into the overall story, so people don't feel as "slapped in the face" by them. Don't get me wrong, sometimes a slap in the face is just the thing!

-T.C.

Edited by - TonyC on 3/19/2004 12:19:07 PM

 
lindi
Senior Member

12345
3205 Posts
9/02
Posted - Mar 19 2004 : 12:17PM
Hell if I know! I'm stumped. But the Nina movies are cheap, you could have a look at Dom 1 and see. ::shrug::
darkangel
Member

87 Posts
4/03
Posted - Mar 19 2004 : 2:16PM
LOL - I wondered how or if you would be able to answer that one! Oh well, I think we are leaning toward renting Dom 1 and a Sinclaire Institute vid just to compare and see what we might like. That way we can send it back if we don't like it and won't feel like we've wasted too much money. If she doesn't like 'em then we don't have to watch 'em.

Thanks for your help everyone.




Jump To: