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daviangel
Member

Only time I would buy a girl flowers is if she was in the hospital
455 Posts
1/04
Posted - Mar 11 2004 : 12:17AM
Is this just a temporary thing or does the internet seem to be getting slower everyday?
No I'm not being facetious.
The reason I say this is that by all definitions I'd say I'm addicted to net since I spend a majority of my time on net.
Anyways this leads up to my personal observation that the whole internet just isn't what it was a year ago.
I mean I would get on the web click on a page and it would come right up. Now it seems like every other day I click on a random webpage it'll take a couple of seconds to come up or it won't come up at all. Actually just a couple of minutes ago I tried to do a google search and it wouldn't even come up. I'm using cable modem and I have an opteron cpu with 2gig's ram so I doubt it's me.
Is all this damn spam and viruses finally having an effect on the overall speed of the net?
Also I'm constantly checking this page internet health report and seeing a lot more red lately whereas before it was always green.
So in conclusion anyone else out there that uses the internet as much as me noticing any subtle effects I mentioned above or is it just "me"?
p.s. also just posting on ADT sometimes takes forever or doesn't post at all
mookiemeister
Super Cool Dude

181 Posts
7/02
Posted - Mar 11 2004 : 12:23AM
I'm still connecting to the internet on my 56k modem. And my modem is only able to connect to my ISP at 28.8kbps. So every web site I visit take quiet a long time to load. And I've developed a lot of patience. So I don't notice any slowdown at all.

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jamesn
Senior Member

Cambridge, MA
750 Posts
1/04
Posted - Mar 11 2004 : 12:32PM
my cable connection has some slow moments too, out of curiousity, have you changed your mtu, rwin, etc since you installed windows?

my speed improves a bit if i set the mtu=1500
MSS=1460, make sure to disable black hole detection, RWIN=256960 time to live=64(128 works well too) and definetly up the http1.0/1.1 values to 8/10, maybe more. there are some programs out there that do this for you, but if you don't want to install more junk, those numbers are more or less optimized for cable, or at least they improve things for me.

you've got a ton of ram, and if you are caching files to disk all the time as you surf, you could install a virtual drive or ramdisk and change the location of the temporary internet files to that. writing to memory is a hell of a lot faster than to disk--you could easily create something 128mb or more, maybe it's worth a shot.

i'm kinda inclined to agree with you and just blame paris hilton for slow page loads-good luck though-j

Hardware All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

Your other left
14594 Posts
3/02
Posted - Mar 11 2004 : 2:30PM
I notice fluctuations from time to time. More people are being added to the Internet daily and yes, viruses do raise the noise floor, so it isn't surprising. However, there are a couple of things to consider that don't really have anything to do with Internet bandwidth:
1) cable is based on the old Ethernet model, which is to say there's a fixed amount of bandwidth shared by all users in an area. So, as the cable company gets more subscribers to use their ISP service more connections are competing for a piece of the available bandwidth, meaning congestion can occur before you even get to the Internet; and
2) web sites continue to add graphics and flash content, which increase the page size, hence the download time.

Regarding posting problems on ADT, Drew has mentioned that there is an issue with the servers he is aware of and working on. I believe the post is in Tech Talk if you want to do a search on it.

cobalt60
Knuckle Dragger

2046 Posts
2/03
Posted - Mar 11 2004 : 3:02PM
I hope it does crash and burn (the Net, not ADT ). Idiots think that because they can't get to MSN and check their damn Hotmail account that you must be a fuckup who can't run his network right. Did it occur to them that MSN might be down? Fuck no. It's me, I don't know what the hell I'm doing.

They think that every attachment should be opened regardless of the broken English in the message about "This is password protect file. You open! You open NOW!"

They think that damn Pogo game requires my immediate attention to get their Java runtimes updated so they can fuck off all afternoon (and it becomes no wonder how I justify so much ADT time, natch).

They won't run Windows Update or a firewall or a virus scanner or spyware blockers/removers, then wonder why their Internet connection is running so slowly.

For all its vaunted value as a research and communication tool, between all the porn, games, jokes, viruses, worms and other bullshit littering the wire, I'd just as soon take a backhoe to every backbone from UUNet to SONAT as troubleshoot downtime.

Oh...sorry.

The routing tables are one of the worst bottlenecks. If not for multi-thousand dollar Cisco and Bay Networks and other high-end appliances, it'd go down in a heartbeat. You know what makes matters worse? I've dealt with so many ISPs that have one or two full-time technicians who know less about DNS (among other things) than I do, that it's a wonder any of this shit works at any given time.

Sensing a little burnout? Yeah, it happens sometimes. I get over it.

 
Grendel
Member

The deep, dank earth.
6 Posts
1/04
Posted - Mar 13 2004 : 11:14AM
I have noticed a slight drop in overall "speed" over the last couple years. I agree with Hardware, that part of this is the increasing size of files on the web pages themselves.

Cobalt60, I hear you loud and clear. Before I convinced my employer to purchase an enterprise AV solution for our mail server I had a secretary call one of my desktop support guys because she was upset over not being able to install a screensaver. When he got there she was repeatedly clicking on "wicked screensaver.pif".

I had the same issue with users refusing to run windows update. I ended up setting up a SUS server and using group policy to enforce updates. Every little bit helps.

cobalt60
Knuckle Dragger

2046 Posts
2/03
Posted - Mar 14 2004 : 5:28PM
That's coming up. I'm in the process of migrating to M$ Small Business Server 2003 and will be doing exactly that -- SUS and group policies. I believe it's going to solve a lot of issues for us.

The Internet will survive despite itself. Somehow these things always do. If we don't blow the whole planet up first, but I'm rather over that mood.




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