but first, hey Im back after a month lay off, I dont know if anybody remember me I came on here asking about black females not doing rimjobs on black guys. I have found one black male performer by the name of santino lee that has had black females rim him, but none of them working today. But Iam slowly starting to learn after watching a pityful throat injections 2 and hearing about black females in the biz talking mad shit on black guys and finally seeing that jazmine cashmere scene in throat injections 1 where she gave a pityful performance that Black Porn will never be as or even close to freaky as white porn and interracial porn. But who is at fault as to why alot of black porn is pathetic now days. You would of thought when they went to those all black blow bang movies like throat injections and crunk juice they would get more innovative and turn it up but they failed to do so. So is it that the black women in porn dont feel the black guys like that, so they will limit what they would do and or only fuck black men for the money and want to hurry up and get out of the scene. A couple of things could support that and one of them is most definetly Jazmine Cashmere's pityful performance in throat injections, I remember when she said in an interview that she was the nastiest black female in the biz, well that scene was more so sloppy than nasty. And am I in no ways insulting anybody just calling it how it is presented and the way black porn is present is they get these superfreak black females in these black flicks like Jazmine Cashmere, jada fire, marie luv, but you get no RIMMING, I hardly see anymore CUM SWALLOWING in black porn just ass cumshots, DOUBLE PENETRATIONS are more rare than seeing a asian guy in porn, BUKKAKES, FACEFUCKING, ect. Another reason it could be the black females is the fact that they get nasty for white men, so do black women who want to do porn are mainly black women who are more attracted to white men, so they are more comfortable with them? Or it could be that some go around saying that black men in porn arent clean (which if true then what would posess white women on porn to get freaky with them?) So more so to my knowledge spreading lies. Or it could be the popularity of IR porn between black men and white women is making black women in porn jealous and want revenge. But stronger arguements could be made for black men in porn, since the majority of black porn is MADE BY THEM. They are the directors, producers and creators of their own movies. So why not make it themselves, but alot of black directors dont even get nasty or freaky when they make IR porn with the exception of L.T. who occasionally very ocassionally does but of course only interracially. Black male PERFORMERS who is into alot of the freaky stuff you see in IR porn like Tee Reel, Lefty Larue, L.T., Mr Marcus, Tone Capone, ect. How come they dont ask a black female to get down like that when performing with them? Even white men who make black scenes in some of their films like Joey Silvera's black cock addiction series doesnt even go there with black women & men. He started adding black women in the series and their scenes with the exception of mercedes santos(but she is a latina.) didnt deliver. Whatever the reason the freak level in black porn is done, proof of that is several black women have done alot of their first cum swallowing, gangbang, anal, DP scenes with white men, some have never done any of those with black men like millian blu has never swallowed black cum, tia cherry has never been in a all black DP scene and so on.... And of course all of them who have done rimming has never done any rimming. All black porn is now days is BIG BUTT POSITION SEX, basically what that means the primary focus is on the ass so most of the acts in black porn is all in how the ASS is positioned. Thats good to look at, but Im not paying 15 $20 dollars just for that. I usually dont mind paying for the movies, the piracy could fuck up your computer and free sites usually only give you snippets, but I aint paying to see BIG BUTT position sex, so I could watch the snippets of big butt porn on the internet for free. But that is all black porn surrounds itself with now, there is no expansion on sex in black porn. Big butt porn is good, but there is nothing to go along with it which could mean it could be that black directors are not that imaginitive. I was a bigger black porn fan than IR porn fan, but now that has officially changed unless black porn can dig itself up out of its grave. Edited by - Flash on Aug 20 2009
First of all, u have every right to like what u like, but to tell u the truth, black women are conservative, just check back all the way back to the 50's, black women have never really got into that kind of sex, why? cause it's not how they were raised. Don't compare the sistas to the white girls, cause white girls are more daring, willing to try new things (not all) but most, while my sistas (go back to what i said about being consevative) are not going there. I think black women have come a long way in their sexuality, u can't make black girls be like white girls, they are who they are! Come to think of it, i think i've gotten a lot out of black girls, for instance, my UP THAT BLACK ASS SERIES is one, and BLACK SQUIRT is another. And just because a sista don't eat a man's ass don't mean she's not freaky. Just check out all the SUGARWALLS BLACK TALES SERIES 1-4 and u will see what i mean! I remember in high school we (meaning my friends) used to talk to the sistas in a civilized manner about giving head, and we always got cussed out, so my brother, what i'm trying to tell u is that, no matter what any director shoots involving black girls u might find 1 or 2 that might be into swallowing, and the others are just there cause they are getting paid, oh they'll do it, but deep inside they do not like it, but that's how it is, u can't make a sista like something that they know absolutely nothing about, they're are a lot of new sistas coming into the buisness, will they be like JADA FIRE or MONE' DIVINE, maybe not, but only time will tell! Edited by - el tea on 8/20/2009 12:02:20 AM
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We blacks aint it into that nasty shit like the whites! Maybe you are but i aint. Black women like marie luv worship white men, and she doesnt wanna do the extra nasty stuff to black men. It is a known fact that black women in porn prefer scenes with the white boys...and they go extra harder for white men. They get paid regular amount to, they dont get extra like white women do to do the extra nasty stuff to black men. They just wanna impress the white men. It is what it is.
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Posted - Aug 20 2009 : 12:19AM
It wasnt a diss my brotha, I stated that. And Im not comparing sistas whtiegirls and if the black women are so conservative then why do they do it with white men? And I know that sistas in the past has done it I mentioned that, but none were on the rise. And if you know anything about amatuer black porn, you would know the sistas do rimming alot especially on one site called www.dearlorenzo.com Only reason I mention that act because that seems to the one act you dont see that much if not any in black porn. I mentioned jazmine cashmere she has done damn near all of it with black guys, except that act, so what the hell is that saying. She has done it when she was guess what AN AMATUER on www.blackbachelor.com So it looks as though that it is not them and maybe more so the makers of pro porn. One more question are you L.T.? The name is spelled different I didnt get the hint it was you until you mention Up that black ass series was yours. If so, Im a big fan of yours so dont take it as me insulting anybody, as I stated when I first came on here, I would just like to see more freakiness in black porn, Only reason why Im into the freaky porn now is because a couple years ago I got into IR and white porn, I liked how they got down like that, I would just like to see black pro porn take it to that level I love black porn but they are running out of BIG BUTT ideas(LOL), I had to find those sugarwalls series to find out and that missing jasmine cashmere scenes from blackbachelor.com which they should put out on DVD he has a high price to join his site, I loved that scene they had her in.
I'd be surprised if big names like Mr. Marcus, Lex, Brian Pumper, or Justin Slayer couldn't get some ass love if they really wanted it. Maybe they aren't requesting it all that often. They hold pretty high status in the porn world, no?
I'm glad u like my stuff, but u didn't insult me, i'm just stating stuff that i know of. Now i have seen some sisters rim black guys before but like i said "SOME" it's probably around 5% of sistas that do that, but like i said earlier give these new sistas a chance to find more about their sexuality. I am not getting into certain sistas that do stuff to white guys that's their decision, hey black girls have done some freaky stuff to me so that's that. And there will be another BLACK SQUIRT!
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Posted - Aug 20 2009 : 2:03AM
okay, just was making sure you didnt take it that way, I would feel bad if someone Im a big fan of think I was insutling them, I forgot ya'll come on here and talk to the fans.(lol) Im just a big black porn fan in the world where alot of black males are Bigger IR porn fans, Just would like to see more. I'll be on the lookout for that new BLACK SQUIRT I would put that up there with freaky shit, but Im still going to hold off paying for some of the other black porn unless I see some freaky shit, my personal choice. Hey white porn directors raised that bar, lol.
Since my return to porn collecting I'm very disappointed with the overall quality of black female talent in porn right now. Obviously there are some good ones (Misty Stone, yum) but over all too many fat girls with belly rolls and cellulite. I'm sure that phat onion booty 'n' such has its devotees but I'm a geezer who started out in porn in L-U-V with Sahara, Angel Kelly (mid 80s)Heather Hunter and Ice (late 80s/early 90s). Seeing Sahara in a porn mag originally made me get the gumption to go into a porn store in the first place. I barely scan the black section anymore, definitely feel that slant eyed Asian and Latins have a much higher quality of tight bodied girls willing to be depraved.
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Posted - Aug 20 2009 : 2:11PM
Making sure I didnt leave this out one thing good I did see in throat injections 2 was that it was some of the girls first gangbang/blow bang and chyanne jacobs first cum swallowing and Im glad that newcomer cali davenport did her first gangbang scene with black men but really she does only black men which I say is a good thing since their are white women that dont do interracial, Im glad black females like her dont do IR since you got white women out here who dont. But STILL throat injections 1 & 2 could of been better along with crunk juice, but thats what I mean alot of black porn tries to go there by uppin the freak level, but it comes out subpar, but alot aint delivering. Oh and I found more first by black females with white men (All I had to do was google it.) alongside Millian Blu whose first cum swallowing scene was WHITE. and Tia Cherry whose gangbang and DP scene was white Also Jayla Starr (the blasian chick) First anal was with a white man. Chavon Taylor's first anal was with a white man Mercedes Santos first DP was with white men. Melody nakia's first blow bang, bukkake was with white men. Aurora Jolie's first gangbang was with white men. also her first cum swallowing in a gangbang which makes sense since its her first gangbang(lol) Speaking of gangbangs those have seem to happen only occasionally in black porn, I guess the orgies replaced them but those orgies are all about the same old same old BIG BUTT POSITION SEX... I love big butt porn, but come on its porn, bring somehting more than that. Those black orgy flicks doesnt even want to give you DPs at least let alone cum swallowing, alot of anal and of course they are not going to do any rimming.
^I was gonna make a spike lee joke here, but instead I would love any black female performers who monitor this list to comment: is there more pay in bg/white couplings or do you black girls just want to be with white dick in the same way white guys want to fuck black girls. (i.e. exotic culture exploration for a group that tit-allates (heh heh) but the voyeur doesn't have access to black girl social encounters in his "non-porn" (I could say real!) life? Discuss :-)
Actually I don't even see any rimming done by black pornstars when it comes to IR scenes either. I made a thread about black women rimming white men and obviously not much succes there. I guess this type of stuff is not their thing.
I remember the first porn I rented, it was Super Freaks with Obsession, Mary Jane, and others. That was some super freaky (the title did not lie) porn for its day ...I was amazed at the action. I agree with Supa Dupa, I want to see porn with black girls that rival Eastern European girls in terms wild sex. BTW, Jazmine Cashmere is in my top five performers.
The reason is simple Black porn is made for a black audience, and a lot of stuff you see in white and IR porn most black guys aren't really that interested in, Black guys like to fuck, straight up knock the bottom out, and are not too interested in another dude fucking the same female he's running up in. and a lot of the stuff like rimming and doing a DP is considered bordering on being gay to a lot of black males, most black men have no interest in bumping dicks with another guy even if its inside a chick ass and pussy. hell if two black guys are doing a chick they make pains not to get too close to the other guy, for instance I did a three black guy one white girl party and we guys made damn sure not to touch each other or make slightest of contact, more like taking turns and swapping places but making damn sure we made little to no contact with each other, come to think of it in my 35+ years of fucking, I can't recall any two black guys and a chick three some where you even made contact with the other guys unless you happen to be changing positions, that other dude dick had to maintain at least 1 to 2 feet distance from you. as the young guys say these days NO HOMO BIG BUTT POSITION SEX Most black guy like big asses, remember this is black porn for a black audience, if you notice the covers of most black videos show ass, not a lot of tits, you see more tits with white porn, if a white chick got a big ass black guys will love her, black guys aren't really into small narrow ass white or black women, that's more a thing, I find the Latina talent have the combination of both nice asses and big tits Thick Woman Black guys and white guys view women sizes differently, where a white guy will feel a size 10-14 chick is fat, a black guy won't, most black guys prefer thick women. I also think that the black porn girls that white guys are crazy about don't rank as high for black guys, and the white girls black guys like don't register high with their white counter parts, for me a thick white girl like Claudia Marie or a black chick like Stacy Adams would be a better fuck for most black guys that these skinny young white or black chicks. you know this chick won't break WHY DO BLACK CHICK DO STUFF IN IR BUT NOT BLACK FLICK 1- most likely they are not asked because it's not need for the intended focus group 2- Pay, black companies tend to pay their black female talent less then a white one, white companies will pay more, you pay enough you can get almost anything, and a black female knows she got to go the extra distance to become well known, also it depends on where the company is located, companies on the east coast tend to pay less then the west coast, but then again you don't have to compete as much for talent with other companies on the east coast. In Summary to see what you want to see stick to White or IR, Black porn is not dying at all it's going in the direction of the targeted audience, Black Men. The big thing to remember with the IR thing of BW/WM Fucking hot looking black women is a black guy normal reality we all get some in our lives but it's a white guys fantasy, so black guys don't need all that extra stuff in their black on black porn. View Stacy Adam Adult Entertainer ad. Edited by - xpersuasions on 8/20/2009 10:06:34 PM Edited by - xpersuasions on 8/20/2009 10:11:16 PM Edited by - xpersuasions on 8/20/2009 10:13:07 PM Edited by - xpersuasions on 8/20/2009 10:17:15 PM
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Posted - Aug 20 2009 : 10:39PM
No actually they do it alot man. Ice La Fox Sinnamon Love Chyanne Jacobs Skyy Black Beauty Dior - rimmed her first ass on ghettogaggers Jazmine Cashmere Marie Luv Millian Blu Jada Fire Fire Vida Valentine Desiree Diamond Theses are just the ones I know about.
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Posted - Aug 20 2009 : 11:36PM
Actually if they werent into that stuff they wouldnt have tried an attempt with gettin freaknasty with throat injections, crunk juice, black girls get nasty too, Up that black ass, chickenheads, ect. blacksonblondes features alot of gangbangs and DPs. Black porn companies do make IR gangbang movies, and some black ganngbang movies, cherokee d'ass did a couple of black DP scenes, where are yo seeing that the brothas arent into. That is a small portion, just like it has ALWAYS BEEN A SMALL PORTION THAT ALWAYS SAID THAT BLACK FEMALES ARENT FREAKY! IT JUST GETS BLOWN UP, THATS ALL.
Also I already prove that alot of that freaky stuff happens within the amatuer porn world and homemade sex tapes and like me and L.T. said they use to do RIMMING back in the day especially one black male pornstar in particular in Santino Lee. www.dearlorenzo.com A couple of the Sugarwalls series amatuer black porn company black magic http://fucktubetv.com/view/1083/this-one-fire-ole-girl-thick-ass-doing-her-thing/ [link removed: No tube sites] Here is a screen from that blackbachelor scene jazmine cashmere did, you can see the whole scene on his site http://www.blackbachelor.com/jazm467.jpg PORNSTAR KIRA http://www.rude.com/v/w5LS2WZfRNl/view/u-do-me-i-ll-do-you-pt-2-of-3-by-seddrock/ Speaking of Kira she is probably the only black pornstar who did this a couple of times with the brothas. It wouldnt be made period if no one liked it and if you check the comments on the vids more like it than hate it. You wouldnt see it in amatuer and in homemade aka hood porn if black men didnt want to see it. Your going by the old thing that black people dont get down like that, and that is a thing of the past, black people are starting to outweigh the ones that arent that freaky. Besides one of the good things about porn they have something for everybody, so it would make sense to create the freaknasty black porn for the blacks into that type of porn, black porn is on a one genre basis and to say that black men all like the same type of porn is kind of stereotyping Iam more than sure there are fans of black porn out there that like the freaknasty stuff as well, thats why like I said they made it before in black pro porn and still make it in amatuer black porn. Edited by - supa_dupa09 on 8/20/2009 11:46:53 PM
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Posted - Aug 20 2009 : 11:39PM
Also I never said I didnt like BIG BUTT PORN, but I would like more added to it in porn, I mean it is porn, its not like its a rap video or a stripper show.
I think that this is a really interesting topic. I'm white and enjoy watching black on black sex (and doing interracial sex), especially any kind of ass sex. I've seen black chicks eat black male ass at parties, so I don't understand why it's uncommon in black porn. My question is is black porn aimed primarily at the black consumer? Is the black porn featuring huge black female ass, as discussed in this thread, aimed particularly at a black male audience? Is there much of a black female audience for black porn? I really love the skinny black street girl look. I think that girls like that are amazing. Can anyone recommend websites or DVDs that feature skinny black street girls? If they're being fucked by black guys, so much the better.
Remember I said most black men not all black men, really a lot of it not freaky at all, ghettogaggers, nothing sexy not freaky sortta junvenile rape sodomy fantasy, if I got to feel like i'm raping a female to get off then you may have some issues, black gang bang, not a recent deal, we do it but I don't think most black guys get off on it, unless it's a white girl getting gang bang, No one saying black females ain't ready, ain't ready to do what, I had black females I dated giving me rim-jobs and dick slob jobs in the 70's that shit ain't new, but i'm not interested in watching it at all, what i'm saying is this, what a lot of black guys like actually doing is not something we like actually watching, i don't think most black guys want to watch another mans ass...period so watching a guys ass getting lick doesn't register high on their must see TV. if you like watching guys getting their ass rimmed watch black tranny porn, that's a given in that genre. Edited by - xpersuasions on 8/21/2009 6:46:38 AM Edited by - xpersuasions on 8/21/2009 6:53:30 AM Edited by - xpersuasions on 8/21/2009 6:54:54 AM
Very interesting. Would you like to post more in my thread here? https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/forum/topic.dlt/topic_id=116315/forum_id=1/cat_id=1/reply=1354220#post1354220 Knowing the movies and clips they're from would be great. Thanks.
Ice La Fox did it on www.frankwank.com along with millian blu. Desiree Diamond did it in a movie called house of domination. And Chyanne Jacobs along with Havana Ginger did on Rusty Trombone.
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Posted - Aug 21 2009 : 3:52PM
Yo are missing where Im getting at overall, and overall is like I said they make porn for everybody, cover all genres, their is an audience for everything when it comes to sex, thats why there are so many genres in porn. And they have gotten freaky in black porn before and for the final time you see it in amatuer black porn, its pro black porn, its not homemade porn, amatuer porn, its pro porn. They make BIG BUTT MOVIES FOR WHITEGUYS WHO LIKES BIG BUTTS, WHEN WE ALL KNOW THAT WHITEGUYS ARE MORE OF BREAST MEN, BUT THEY MAKE IT, SO WHATS THE PROBLEM WITH MAKING FREAKY BLACK PORN FOR BLACK GUYS THAT LIKE THE FREAKY SHIT. CASE MADE RIGHT THERE. AND i DON KNOW WHERE YOU WERE TRYING TO GO WITH MENTIONING TRANNY PORN, BUT I IN NO WAY WAS COMING AT YOU, SO NO NEED TO COME AT ME I DONT WATCH GAY PORN.
Lack 100 said: Black women like marie luv worship white men, and she doesnt wanna do the extra nasty stuff to black men. It is a known fact that black women in porn prefer scenes with the white boys...and they go extra harder for white men. I'm glad I'm not the only one who notices that stuff, I'm also glad you said cause I said before on another thread and got rip for saying it.
Hey guys let's try not to quote the majority of the thread when making a new post. When quoting, just take the part that you need from the earlier post, and delete the rest. It makes things easier for everyone. Thanks.
Relax dude, a whole lot of straight guys watch tranny porn but won't watch gay porn, anyway you did say you like to watch rim jobs, and your looking at a guys ass hole, there are some guys who may feel that like watching a guys asshole is sortta gay, ain't nothing wrong with that and I have no problem with whatever anyone likes, so i'm not coming at you in any way, just making a observation. Edited by - xpersuasions on 8/21/2009 9:07:52 PM
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Posted - Aug 22 2009 : 1:41AM
Oh okay, nah I consider tranny porn gay, lol. I dont like it to watch guy's assholes, ACTUALLY I first saw it in straight porn in gangbang my face in that infamous sasha grey scene where she done it to a couple of black guys, and its all about the nastiness(in a good way.) of it, rimjobs is one of those acts you see where it doesnt cross like piss and scat do, it is just like the right kind of nasty, like when a girl deep throats the nastiness of that is the fact that a girl got a dick in her muthafuckin throat. Luv that shit.
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Posted - Aug 22 2009 : 1:49AM
Why did you get ripped for it? Was you saying it in offensive way?
Ewwwwww, y'all long-winded up in here today! I will admit some good points were made. I think it pretty much breaks down the way Dr. L.T. expounded near the top of the thread. Black porn iz far from done. Sistas are ready to get freaky but they gotta feel the respect as well as the paycheck. Some would say,'Respect a ghetto gagged chicken head, aw hells no,' but I think that is the wrong attitude. Lex, Sean, Marcus and now L.T.make a connection with the most of the talent that is respectful and friendly. Not all the time because some sistas want that super diva treatment and they haven't been in the business that long. Real vets like: Kira, Sinnamon Luv, Kitten, Vannesa Blue and a few others(Chastity still around?)should be receiving five star treatment on any set they step on. Wow I thought I was gonna be brief but I got long winded too. Hey L.T. Looking forward to White Mommas II and hope to see you mixing it up with Rucca Page, Claudia-Marie and the long awaited throwdown(at least for me)Lisa Sparkxxx. Oh, and please, don't forget England.
No I had said Marie Luv said on her blog that she didn't do too many black guys cause they didn't turn her on, It was a thread on interracial porn. I can't remember which one it was,anyway someone responsed that I was wrong and she didn't say that,well low and behold, she repeated the same thing at least 4 or 5 times on a more recent thread about how white porn porducers don't embrace black female porn stars.No I wasn't offensive at all,I was just repeating what she said.When I respond to something I always try to be respectful, I might have a bit of sarcasiem in there but I'm never rude or doing any name calling.
Marie Luv has said "no black guys" on a behind the scenes dvd once. But in contrast she's done plenty of porn with black guys, and from what I can tell likes it. She has a thread here, maybe just ask her in "Porn Stars" section. I wouldn't take it personal, I think for certain IR dvds(white guy/black girl) it may just be role play.
SOmeone on radio, I forget who, once noted black people don't do any of the stupid shit white people do. You don't see them doing extreme sports, skydiving, bungee jumping, binge drinking... you know, life risking dumbassery. And yet they still live life to the fullest. Was an amusing observation. Anyway, on to porn. There probably is a subtle desire to push the envelope more on IR porn than in black-on-black porn. After all, we may have a biracial president but it's still a little illicit or naughty or verboten or however you want to put it to have a mixed race pairing. The one thing I've never liked about the porn scene is the exaggeration of stereotypes. Latinas and Asians talk with the dumbest of fake accents. Black girls all do that stupid ass jiggle (see any Ball Honeys video) and talk ghetto. There's no excuse for it and it wasn't always that way. You never saw Heather Hunter or Vanessa Del Rio acting like that.
In my opinion there is nothing wrong with any stars telling what their preference is. If Marie Luv prefers white guys over blacks then more power to her. Would anyone have a problem if a white pornstar prefered black guys?
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Posted - Aug 23 2009 : 1:08AM
Can you give me the thread so I can see it, if that is true then forget her overall, cause she aint even into black guys, so no reason to see if she would get freaky because the answer is obviously no.
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Uh yes whiteguys(not all.) do, thats why nicole banks when she stated her preference for black guys, wasnt not only percieved well by whiteguys, but she has done only one IR anal scene versus about 4 or 5 white anal scenes, that sounds like those were booked on purpose to me. And Why dont the black and latina females that dont do whiteguys get as much publicity in porn as much as the whitegirls that dont do black guys and other black female pornstars and so on.... Cali Davenport is hella sexy and a very good performer along with kim treats and vanilla red and especially FLAME. To only have a starmaking career in porn by doing only whiteguys is not only B.S. (raven black made a name for herself doing IR porn. Along with sara jay.) but racist towards pornstars that prefer black guys. But on the real if she prefers whiteguys I dont care, but no need for the diss, tori black prefers black guys and she aint diss nobody... But back to black porn, Im more so talking about females that are into the brothas or so they say, Edited by - supa_dupa09 on 8/23/2009 1:27:46 AM Edited by - supa_dupa09 on 8/23/2009 1:35:07 AM
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Posted - Aug 23 2009 : 1:47AM
Any way black porn dont and or no longer have a FreakNasty Genre... Tosay there isnt an audience for somethin that has not been tried or consistent with is not being honest, because if they could put a fat genre in porn especially black porn, black porn loves them fat genres(I like some not all.) I mean really a fat genre but no(consistent) Nasty genre. I dont get that. But they have tried with throat injections and crunk juice and other titles, but the scenes are so hesitatant at going the extra step and not to mention came off subpar in what they were obviously trying to copy(Gangbang my face, sperm receptacles, NCDA, ect.) Why even try to copy those type of films if your not into getting nasty in black porn? Those flicks are in the nasty genre, why take that concept and subdue it? White females have alot of their first onscreen sex acts like gianna and tori black doing their first anal with men of their own race, Lisa Ann and chayse evans did their First DP with DP with men of their own race, Why do so many black females do alot of their first with white men?
I always thought the main reason for that is penis size. I see many pornstars who seem to prefer black men usually do their first anal or DP with white guys and I just assumed it was because of size. Or probably the more logical reason is because when a big name pornstar does anal for the first time it's the bigger company that pays the most money and will get the most attention for the girl and the bigger companies ususally tend to cater to a white audience. Do you really see Gianna doing her first anal with someone as big as Lex and doing it at BLACK MARKET, CANDY SHOP, BLACK ICE, etc...? As much as I like Gianna and would like to see her do IR anal, doing it with any of those companies would be a bad career move.
Totally true. I talk about this with my white friends all the time. They all want to or have done crazy stuff like that and I can't relate to it at all. I see them as crazy and they see me as a boring/scared when it comes to that type of stuff. I don't know if the same thought process exists but when I was a teen, we (black guys) thought white guys who had to do all the goofy/crazy sex stuff had to resort to that because it was the only way to satisfy a woman because their sexual skills were lacking. When white guys bragged about how long their tongues were and how they could eat pussy, we thought of him as a lousy lover that had to do that to actually get the girl off. We thought that if you gave it to a girl the right way there'd be no need for any of the crazy or other stuff that doesn't involve penis penetration.
But there are people who want to see/hear that. Sadly because they either relate to it or that's how they view that particular race. You ever watch the news or some show where a black person talks like they just walked off the plantation or talks in some ridiculous hip hop/ghetto speak that they think is cool? There's an audience for that type of stuff so I don't see a problem with a company supplying that for that demographic. I think both Heather and Vanessa did that type of thing too but it was them in the context of a feature with them playing roles. Heather was/is big into hip hop and her speech reflected that but it wasn't nearly as overdone as some people do now. I've seen a few Vanessa films where she played up the Latin thing to a silly degree.
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Posted - Aug 23 2009 : 12:24PM
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Posted - Aug 23 2009 : 12:29PM
Found it here. She said white guys are more energetic, not that they didn't turn her on. Big difference. I've seen this observation by others as well, that black porn studs aren't as vigorous as, say, TT Boy or Erik Everhard. They're more laid back and chill, in all things, really.
She also said that she'd just done a scene with two black guys that was coming out in September. Hey from what I've seen, Marie likes to fuck and fuck seriously, while a lot of guys simply like to talk. As for why a lot of black female performers don't get nasty. I don;t think the genre doesn't particularly allows or expects it, and most simply don't want to and/or know they simply don't have to. I still remember H.J. asking a black girl it licking balls was out of the question. The girl's answer was that she simply wasn't expecting to even go down there. And don't believe every porn actress does everything she loves or wants to on film. Very few like the taste of cum, yet how many facials and swallowing scenes do we see in every film?
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Posted - Aug 23 2009 : 2:18PM
Great thread. It's not just the "freak nasty" sort of stuff that is lacking in black-on-black porn. In general, ANY sort of fetish material is underrepresented in black-on-black or IR porn. Most of the offerings are just straight up fucking and sometimes all bj. Now, I can dig either one of these categories, but I would like to see more IR & black-on-black: -Foot fetish -Stocking/Pantyhose fetish -Handjobs -More Big Tit Stuff with Tit fucking! -POV And when I say, IR, I mean black guy / non-black girl. Black girls do plenty of the fetish stuff with white male partners because the companies that make these type of videos hire white actors almost exclusively.
I've seen Kylie Ireland say the same thing on these boards. Now that I think about it I have to say there's some (not every black performer) truth to it. I wonder if that's just a "black thing" or if it's because so many of them are so big and they're taking it easy on the girl? Of course someone like Lex or Prince are exceptions.
I really don't think you're going to see much of that suff with a black on black cast. As others have pointed out there is a big desire from black viewers to see that stuff. The companies who would be most likely to do that suff are the companies that cater to (mostly) black men. I'm sure they've tried stuff like that in the past and probably didn't have the success they wanted. That's why you don't hardly any of that stuff from companies like BLACK ICE, BLACK MARKET, WCP, JSI, etc... When the other companies do it and do IR stuff they're catering to a (mostly) white audience. Of course there are black guys who like that stuff and there are white guys who don't. I'm black, and for me personally the stuff you name isn't something I go out of my way to see. I'm mostly about the girls. If there's a girl in one of those types of movies I want to see I might check it out, otherwise I have no real interest. I used to buy/rent bondage/fetish videos only because I was a big fan of Summer Cummings and didn't really like her in lesbian scenes. Otherwise, I just don't get the bondage stuff. Before big butt/bubble butt movies were as common as they were today I used to buy/rent spanking videoes to see certain girls because not many movies focused on butts back then. But there's no need for me to do that these days.
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Posted - Aug 23 2009 : 8:56PM
Ordell, excellent observations! I never agreed that the frequency of the exaggerated stereotypes used reflected the actual demand for it, which eliminates the reason that it is done out of demand. Also, I don't understand why exaggerated vernacular is used today. Personal, when I hear it, it's a major turnoff because it reminds me of juvenile behavior as a minority growing up in an all-white state.
Like he said babe its not asked in most of the companies that we work for and then with the guys black guys we work with you never know if they might like it or you might get hit in the mouth lol but black porn is built for black audiences there are few far and between of those brothers who actually like getting their ass licked but there is a video or section for that but for the one's that like just straight on fucking you have your section of videos of that. Black girls love being with white guys in films because either the guy is more passionate compared to the average black male performer who just wants to fuck her. she has her choice in what she feel like being fucked like that day depending on who the talent is. There are white boys that are straight fuckers and passionate black men like sean micheals. I am so tired of people or fans trying to section off black and white porn. if you don't like something then don't watch it cont. to watch the tight body latinas and asians. that is perfectly fine but like my dude said there are a lot and i mean a lot of white and black men that love big assess or big women period it just depends on what you prefer. And although you are a fan as a performer myself you absolutely have no idea what we as women black or white go through on these sets just to put out a scene money or not we fucked and we do what the most freakiest or the most boringest person do behind closed doors that most women or men who like to comment wouldn't do.
I don't buy for a minute the notion that black females are less freaky than white females. Sure, some black female pornstars may have a limited menu of what they're willing to be filmed doing, but I live in Philadelphia, and black females on the street here do whatever. I know that firsthand. Reading the posts in this thread, I have the impression that much of the audience for black porn is thought to be interested in vanilla (no slight intended) sorts of porn, and that limits what black female pornstars are asked to do on sets. Just a thought: a portion of the porn audience may be tuning out black porn because it is perceived to be either too conservative or ridiculously too conservative. On the other hand, when it comes to porn, or any form of commericalized sex, there is a market (of some sort) for anything, so maybe black porn, such as it is now, generates profits. For me? I like ultra-skinny black females who are stone freaks and down for whatever, with the emphasis on ultra-skinny.