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Posted - Feb 11 2009 : 7:43PM
Most of the time it seems forced to me. Maybe not by the director, but more like she's expected to say something so she blurts out shit. Kind of like "oh my god, fuck me" or something... Some do dirty talk nicely, and those are the girls it seems natural from. Even though the actual words are crazy. Examples: Bree Olsen or Kelly Wells. Just my opinion though.... World Class Adult Reviews
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Posted - Feb 11 2009 : 10:03PM
Penny Flame is real good at it...she has imagination. I remember her saying something like "I want to take you home so I never have to stop fuckung you" to Manual Ferrara in Sports Fucking 5....I sure lost it on that one.[:)}
I sometimes wish that the girls would concentrate more on having sex instead of talking shit all the time. Some girls are good at dirty talking but then again some are just annoying - and I don't want to name any names - I just avoid watching them or turn down the sound.
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Posted - Feb 12 2009 : 9:17AM
I agree most of the dirty talk seems forced or put on to try and stimulate the mood and that the ones that can do it freely and naturally are the ones that can really take the scene to the next level. Bree Olson, Penny Flame, Kelly Wells are all very good at that, and Kristina Rose, Jenna Haze, Jenna Presley, and AnnMarie Rios are some excellent "dirty talkers" that come to mind
I was wondering if anyone remembers a quote from Gianna Michaels - it was something like, "I'm not your wife, so fuck me like..." don't remember the rest, but if anyone knows if that came from a movie, which title? And as far as dirty talk goes, I absolutely love it... sometimes. The girls that just say the same thing over and over again I can do without. Otherwise, I would like to see way more dirty talk, and wonder why not script it... sometimes anyway. I can only assume that there are creative people in porn, so why not use it for some choice words in the midst of the sex? Or even some line that gets the sex going... lol, "fuck me" usually works for me, but there are probably way more creative ways to start a sex scene.
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The inane chatter is almost done by rote. We are expected to make porn look like well, porn. The worst thing any performer wants to hear from a director is "more energy". Carmella Bing is subtle and nasty enough to sell her dirty talk well. Aurora Snow's is organic and sexy, and Claire Daimes is so nasty that I almost popped in first position (great girl). It's incumbant upon the male performer to bring out the best in his girl. I'm still relatively new but guys like Marcus London, Christian and Marco Banderas seem to be able to pull the most out of their female talent while themselves saying very little. Nick Manning said the greatest line I've ever heard, to wit: "Look at me when I'm fucking you!" But to answer your question, it's implied but never "forced"...With the girls having such short shelf lives, they are well aware that if they lay there in mute contemplation of their sourroundings then there's not much of a chance of a rebook.
Yeah, from what I can tell just by watching, it seems like a lot of girls and guys do the dirty talk without any direction, but that's not to say that it's "natural", per se, just something that they know they're expected to do. Personally, I could seriously do without any rhetorical questions and answers ("Do you love it when I fuck you, baby?" "Oh, yeah!") and more along the lines of commands/encouragement where they actually mean it ("Harder!", "Touch me!", etc.). In the end, though, I tend to apply the same rules to porn dirty talk as I do to other conversation: "If you have nothing interesting to say, don't say anything at all." In many cases, hot and heavy breathing and grunting that's real can get me off better than the dirtiest talkers that are to an extent just saying what they think we want to hear.
It may be more a matter of director than actress. I believe CJ has remarked how Tori Black's talk sounded consciously porn-y when she first started out but sounded less faked later. It may be a case of where she was being told by directors what to say and when to say it early and working with better directors later who let scenes evolve. One of the hottest scenes I've seen recently was a Mike Quasar-directed Brittany O'Connell scene in Come To Momma 3 where the patter was at a minimum and she seemed to be responding pretty naturally. The other scenes are the same IMHO. Come to think of it, a lot of Quasar's titles I've seen don't stick out for a lot of dirty talk but the scenes are hot because the sex is good and the talk isn't getting in the way. Lately I have gotten to the point with Bree Olson where I think she may be turning into the female Wesley Pipes. She is talking way too much in a scene and sounding like she's saying what she thinks a porn actress should be saying instead of what she's feeling.
Thanks dude! I've been in love with dirty talk pretty much since I started having sex. For me sex is all mental. Sometimes directors ask you to talk more or less but most of the time they let you do your own thing. The other day during a scene I was doing with James Deen that was directed by Mick Blue I told James to "mark his territory" just before he was gunna pop. They both thought that was pretty awesome. Haaaa, ha. Dirty talk rules skooooool!
I stick to mainly web-based content (much of which eventually winds up on DVD releases or vice versa) but I have to disagree. I've got literally gigabytes of Bree's scenes and I don't think I've ever heard the same "patter" twice. Oh sure, sex noises are sex noises. But she has a very unique way of tailoring the dirty talk to the scene. For example, one of my faves of her is in POV Fantasy 7...she really tailored that dirty talk to fit the scene well. It may be scripted, but at least she takes the time to make her scripts match the scene.
I LOVE dirty talk when someone, male or female does it well. I could get off on just the sound alone, without even watching the picture. I have done phone interviews where some stars will just start talking dirty to me and telling me what they would like to do to me. They are so good at it that I have totally lost my train of thought and they have gotten me wet and horny in 60 seconds. It's hard to pull myself back to gether and get back into interview mood after they side track me like that. (Three guilty parties immediately come to mind, Carmen Hart, Moxxie Maddron and Diamond Jackson) But I also interviewed someone just last week who told me that she doesn't like to say much during sex, and when the directors tell her too, she feels funny about it. As a matter of fact she told me that earlier in the day a director told her to be louder and louder, and she felt silly doing it, and was hoping that it didn't look foolish when the movie came out. I would ALWAYS rather have NO dirty talk then faked or force though. The girls that say "oh, oh , oh, fuck me harder, harder, harder, right there, oh baby," make we want to just gag and turn off the sound. Did I see the impressive Jordan Lane on this thread? I am going to be interviewing him soon, and I was going to do it via e-mail. But if he can talk dirty, I just might want to do it on the phone..... JORDAN? Cindi Loftus http://LukeIsBack.com
I agree with Cindi. Dirty talk, when done well, is an art form itself. I had never heard of Kristina Rose until I read this thread, but I checked her out in a scene from Suck it Dry 5 and now I'm her newest, biggest fan. She can talk dirty with the best of them and as we say in Texas, can suck the chrome off a trailer hitch.
I agree, Lube. Bree always makes the dirty talking work for me. Sometimes it seems completely genuine (which is very hot) and other times I see it as a really good sexual performance (which is still hot). Either way, I think she is so very good at what she does. Wild Billy
a lot of dirty talk does seem forced. i guess to break up the monotomy or add spice or whatever. but overdoing it does drag the scene down.
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hey yes this was very cool. for everyone who wanna watch this flick its called Ready Wet Go 6 - Third degree films and will be released by the end of april. was a realy good szene. thanks kristina
In an older series by, I think, Steve Holmes, Nadia Nice talks dirty throughout the scene. Her running patter is about how does the stud like fucking her young tight ass/pussy. Forced or not, while she takes HIM in doggy anal (it's POV so he just kneels there, still, while she impales her ass on his cock), I've lost it just listening to the AUDIO portion of this. It's very well done. Scene is from Raincoaters Point of View #2.
Oh, Mick! Thannnnnk yooooou! I had so much fun. Not only did you hook me up with one of my favorite fucks but I got to look at my sexy director all day while I was getting boned. I hope we get to "work" ;P together soon.
Yes I love girls that talk dirty, I get sick of the "Fuck me" and "Oh God" I think Lilly Thai deserves a mention. Indeed I have been compiling a list of the things she says after a Gonzo cum shot. They are amazing. So I am starting a new thread with this list and will keep updating it.