is drug use rampant in porn

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goten Member 29 Posts 6/07	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 1:51AM Lately I've been interested in entering porn. But everyone I've talked to ( including a man I know whp's involved in porn himself), has said it has a huge drug problem, and those ( like myself), usually have to start taking drugs in order to stay high to have sex in front of a camera crew day after day. Is this generally true? Edited by - goten on Jul 21 2007 [Link]
Shagdog Member Houston 626 Posts 1/07	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 8:58AM Drug use is a problem in our society. Why do you think companies’ drug test employees? And why they don’t follow up unless it becomes a problem that effects business. If you need drugs to fuck on camera then stay out of porn. [Link]
imak Adult Film Legend 3345 Posts 2/04	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 9:06AM goten wrote: Lately I've been interested in entering porn. But everyone I've talked to ( including a man I know whp's involved in porn himself), has said it has a huge drug problem, and those ( like myself), usually have to start taking drugs in order to stay high to have sex in front of a camera crew day after day. Is this generally true? Edited by - goten on Jul 21 2007 Click to expand no that is not true at all! people don't take drugs cause of the stress of being in front of a camera, they take them cause they get degraded daily for your viewing pleasure and I as I have said before people who take drugs take drugs and people who don't don't [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 9:17AM I don't know, personally. Porn isn't a very structured type of work environment. That tends to attract the kind of people who avoid structure, restrictions and such. But it really shouldn't matter. I'm not sure why you think someone else being into drugs means you have to. If you don't want to, then don't. But if you think you would need drugs to "endure" the business, then the business is probably not for you for the simple reason that you're looking at it as a chore that could barely be endured. My theory is that most people hate their jobs. But if you're choosing, don't choose something you know you're going to hate. Yes. An environment that you find unpleasant can drive you to many things....including drugs. That's just a reality and it isn't limited to porn. If you want to avoid drugs, then I see no reason why you shouldn't be able to. If you're worried that you'll get into them just because everyone else is, why? It's easy enough to refuse. [Link]
imak Adult Film Legend 3345 Posts 2/04	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 9:59AM But if you think you would need drugs to "endure" the business, then the business is probably not for you for the simple reason that you're looking at it as a chore that could barely be endured. My theory is that most people hate their jobs. Click to expand why do you think we are different from you? We hate it truth be told, once we realize what's what it's like any other jo, you do what you are qualified to and you pay your bills, we are just as human as you are [Link]

imak Adult Film Legend 3345 Posts 2/04	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 10:01AM cause I'm retired and not selling anything I can say this I chalenge any one to be a sex worker for a year and not need drugs or some escape, it's about as bad as it gets [Link]
Kensington Chapp Senior Citizen Mine is the biggest. 610 Posts 7/07	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 10:47AM Ladies & gentlemen; Maybe the drug that this "insider" guy was referring to was Viagra? If that's a problematic drug, then yeah, the porn industry is full of drugs. But as for the usual substance abuse, has anyone considered that some actors may be feel-good junkies, and that's why they like to get high and fuck? [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 11:33AM imak wrote: why do you think we are different from you? We hate it truth be told, once we realize what's what it's like any other jo, you do what you are qualified to and you pay your bills, we are just as human as you are Click to expand I'm sorry. I must have put that the wrong way. I didn't mean porn folk aren't human or anything like that. I just meant that people have different levels of tolerance and different reasons for doing what they do. Some people seem to be able to tolerate anything. And I have no idea whatsoever what reasons people who do porn are. I can assume that for many, it's money. And I do understand what you mean about people doing what they're qualified to do. Believe me, millions of people are stuck in a life and a job they hate and don't know what to do. But I also have to assume that a profession like porn would naturally attract at least a few who truly want to do it. I honestly can't say that I can tell the difference anymore. I used to think I could but now I'm not so sure. But you know....there are a lot of jobs that are fully capable of making someone just want to off themselves at the end of the day. I've been there. Many, many times. And I've never been anywhere near a porn set. I don't doubt that many in the business utterly hate it. I don't know a whole lot about what goes on behind the scenes but just from what I can see in front of the lens, I completely get what you mean. I don't think porn has to be the way it is, however. And please excuse my ignorance. I understand that people have to pay the bills somehow. But are you saying you hate the whole idea of porn or do you hate the way it is done? I guess what I'm asking is, would most of the girls be happier if porn didn't have people like Khan Tusion and others like him (Sorry. I'm drawing a blank right now on the names)? I don't think any of the girls in porn should ever feel like they have to work with or for someone they find unpleasant to work with. And every director and producer should make every effort to make the experience as painless as possible (under the circumstances). Alas, as I understand it, porn is still largely unregulated in a lot of ways. And wherever you have that, you have people who take advantage of it. I think most things are better with some restraint and people who know the meaning of the word. I'm sorry if this post seems ill informed. I don't read the insider stuff like many of the people here probably do so there's probably a lot of stuff I don't know. I just watch a couple of movies every now and then and look at pics. [Link]
Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 1:40PM Perhaps the only drug you might want to use as a porn actor is the 'Viagra'. If you can stay hard for the sexy lady, then why would you need to use any other drug? [Link]
Festus Member Don't let me stop ya. I just likes ta watch. Heh...heh...heh. 95 Posts 6/07	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 2:00PM Why somebody need a drug to have a sexify good time with some of the most sluttyest womans in the world??!! Not make no sense to me. Personaly I just has to look at there picture and my dinksy get hard like a tabasco sauce bottlings. If I could be round them kind of girls all the times I be one happy Festus! That for sure. Busting many nuts each hour with gusto and gleeful! Porn stars has the best lifes in the world-- they get paid to do the one thing that make anyone happy. Porn stars are my hero and my roll modelings. I look up to them-- especial when they drool gape piss and fist good. If sometime they use drugs it just for recreating use because they free spirits not because they need it to do their worklust. ---- I am a raincoats. One day I gonna direct a hole mess of great pornoing films and get that helping of fame and moneys I deserving for. [Link]
Derek117 Senior Member 1605 Posts 1/06	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 2:23PM As others have posted, alcohol and drug use are rampant in much of American/Western society. The "problem" is with "abuse" or over use. And cover stories in mainstream mags like Time and People try to find answers to why celebrities (Linds Lohan, Charlie Sheen, Brit Spears...pick almost any celeb) who should have everything, allow themselves to fall victim to the disease of substance abuse. My guess is the World of Porn parallels the Celebrity World in that both afford the performers enough time off that the "partying" lifestyle becomes a 24/7 thing--not the once/twice-a-year-on-vacation thing when most of us 9-to-5ers binge on booze & drugs. Plus female porn performers face a highly competitive workplace, with new girls coming into the biz almost daily. Work is shrinking, and more extreme/distasteful scenes are become required even on Feature production sets for Vivid, Wicked, and Digitial Playground. And "isolation" from family and friends because of her career choice can also be factored in. All this adds up to "stress," time-to-indulge, and a culture of "friends" in the porn biz who will never tell a girl NOT to do something that may be harmful to her health. Her "friends" don't want to tell her how to live her life. (Gee, thanks!) Bottom line: the list of girls who came into porn as occasional users but developed a "problem" with booze or drugs would include almost every performer in the past seven years. Some stay and continue to work to feed their substance abuse; some clean themselves up, and change their work/party habits; and, others leave and try to recover their lives. [Link]
Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 2:25PM imak wrote: cause I'm retired and not selling anything I can say this I chalenge any one to be a sex worker for a year and not need drugs or some escape, it's about as bad as it gets Click to expand Do huge mugs of tea count as "drugs or some escape"? [Link]
Kimi Lixx Senior Member 2012 Posts 6/01	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 2:25PM imak wrote: cause I'm retired and not selling anything I can say this I chalenge any one to be a sex worker for a year and not need drugs or some escape, it's about as bad as it gets Click to expand Baby girl, I've been a sex worker for 15 years. I don't need to accept your challenge, I've already done it over and over. You already know that, though. I do know that I'm one of the exceptions, too. RandomPrecision wrote: But are you saying you hate the whole idea of porn or do you hate the way it is done? I guess what I'm asking is, would most of the girls be happier if porn didn't have people like Khan Tusion and others like him (Sorry. I'm drawing a blank right now on the names)? I don't think any of the girls in porn should ever feel like they have to work with or for someone they find unpleasant to work with. And every director and producer should make every effort to make the experience as painless as possible (under the circumstances). Alas, as I understand it, porn is still largely unregulated in a lot of ways. Click to expand A lot of what I found unpleasant in the porn industry wasn't in the performing. A physically difficult, or even uncomfortable/painful, scene wasn't really a drop in the bucket of unpleasantness. That's just me, though, I have an unreasonably high tolerance for physical discomfort. As long as I'm not seriously injured, I shrug most things off the minute they're done with. I also didn't choose to do a lot of the higher paying scenes that were physically demanding. I wasn't under pressure to make a lot of money, and I was experienced enough to understand my own mind and body enough to clearly anticipate the likely consequences. The things I found difficult to tolerate were the purely unprofessional actions of others, and situations and conditions that were unconducive to working in any way, sexually oriented or not. If boxers had to perform under the conditions that exist on most porn sets they wouldn't be able to take it, either. No matter how much punishment they're willing and able to accept physically. Are drugs, of all kinds - recreational and performance enhancing, rampant in the sex industry? YES. [Link]
imak Adult Film Legend 3345 Posts 2/04	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 2:26PM for random: cause quoting it would be to long. you're not far off. I loved porn when I got in it,I never faked an orgasm and when the light bulb went off I quit,I loved it when I was in it. I have asked myself many times (and my shrink) if sex work makes you crazy or if crazy people do sex work. My shrink says crazy people do sex work (fwiw) I hate people, sex work has allowed me to be my full nutty ass self. Legally I'm so nut's I'm disabled, but sex work has given me a way to be a total nut bag and not take charity. I love drugs, I will take anything that might make me feel better,when I got into porn, I was expected to not feel pain, and my agent took me to the doctor and I got my first vicoden. I'm the sort of person that abuses every damn thing I can, so yeah I became addicted to pain killers. I guess my point is people who abuse drugs abuse drugs [Link]
imak Adult Film Legend 3345 Posts 2/04	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 2:31PM Kimi Lixx wrote: Baby girl, I've been a sex worker for 15 years. I don't need to accept your challenge, I've already done it over and over. You already know that, though. I do know that I'm one of the exceptions, too. Click to expand um your anorexic, and you support a miriad of clingers, escape takes a lot of shapes fwiw your the most functional human I know Edited by - hardware on 7/21/2007 6:11:48 PM [Link]

imak Adult Film Legend 3345 Posts 2/04	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 2:40PM Harri Patel wrote: Do huge mugs of tea count as "drugs or some escape"? Click to expand no but starvation does Edited by - hardware on 7/21/2007 6:13:45 PM [Link]
imak Adult Film Legend 3345 Posts 2/04	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 2:53PM I guess my point is people who abuse drugs abuse drugs Click to expand quoting myself for Kimi and Harry [Link]
MissJanet Member Germany, Europe 110 Posts 3/05	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 2:56PM I agree about people who do drugs do them. I catched multiple addictions basically all at once for no reason at all other then "I love to do drugs". I had a nice job, good money, a balanced life, felt reasonable save in my tracks, free to do drugs whenever I wanted. Big fat mistake. I had to learn that I'm prone to addictons and quite weak when it comes to battle them. 2 years later I had no job, no money, no positive outlook. The knowledge that the idiot fully responsible for that was me did not help much :). Nowadays I have to avoid all kinds of drugs like the plague, after all the bad experiences I made it is still just one take and I'm on again, screw the consequences. [Link]
imak Adult Film Legend 3345 Posts 2/04	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 3:00PM you should go into sex work.. there is no repercussions [Link]
Kimi Lixx Senior Member 2012 Posts 6/01	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 3:14PM imak wrote: um your anorexic, and you support a miriad of clingers, escape takes a lot of shapes fwiw your the most functional human I know Click to expand I am not anorexic. If I am, I'm really bad at it. I do have body image issues, but I had those long before porn and I don't think they're an escape. Controlling myself may be a relief from stress, but again, nothing to do with sex work. As for clingers, I birthed most of them, so that's just reproductive guilt. The one I didn't, well, I dunno about him, he's useful to me in his own way. It's probaby co-dependent or something dysfunctional, but since I'm in control, it's okay. Control = stress relief. Yeah, huge cups of tea are an addiction. I had it before porn, too. I'm not giving it up. I agree that people who abuse will be abusers and people who don't use won't use. I wonder about the people who aren't on one side of the fence or the other. People who haven't been exposed to drugs, or stress, or a group of people who are accepting of behavior that is usually considered unacceptable. I do think that the sex industry does tend to tip those people into using. I think a lot of the people that get tipped in that direction are the same ones who would cave in to peer pressure in a variety of settings. I don't entirely agree with your shrink about crazy people doing sex work. I do sorta agree, though. I think that most people who consider sex work as a viable option in our country have disconnected from socially/culturally accepted norms. That may or may not be "crazy", but it is probably less functional when compared to people who act in a societally normal way. [Link]
MissJanet Member Germany, Europe 110 Posts 3/05	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 3:18PM imak wrote: you should go into sex work.. there is no repercussions Click to expand Oh no, thanks. I loosely had to do with porn business when I worked for a firm who did porn cover and other print media for a GGG style company here in germany. While the performers I met were all totally professional and working with them was fine, some of the producers, directors and promoters were such sleazy slimebags, it was simply unbearable. Edited by - MissJanet on 7/21/2007 3:19:24 PM [Link]
imak Adult Film Legend 3345 Posts 2/04	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 4:40PM Harri Patel wrote: Do huge mugs of tea count as "drugs or some escape"? Click to expand like it or don't sex work breaks people, and your tea drinker is as broken as the next, she just funtions cause she never had a choice not to Edited by - hardware on 7/21/2007 6:15:53 PM [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 6:40PM Kimi Lixx wrote: The things I found difficult to tolerate were the purely unprofessional actions of others, and situations and conditions that were unconducive to working in any way, sexually oriented or not. If boxers had to perform under the conditions that exist on most porn sets they wouldn't be able to take it, either. No matter how much punishment they're willing and able to accept physically. Click to expand OK. I thought it might be something like this but as I said, I'm almost 100% ignorant of the behind the scenes. I've tried to read stuff like AVN and some other insider stuff and all the drama and stuff just turns me off. And plus, I'm sure stuff goes on that you won't read about anywhere. You know. For a viewer like me, it's really confusing. One day, a girl seems perfectly happy doing what she does, doesn't seem to mind at all and then, she posts on ADT saying she hates porn. So what you and Imak have said has been somewhat illuminating. And I think I may have some idea what you mean about unprofessional behavior. Obviously, I've never done porn but in every job I've ever worked, there have been those people who seem to exist to make everyone else's day miserable.....each and every day. And those were so-called proper jobs with quite a bit of structure, organization and rules. I can imagine that porn allows for quite a few unsavory characters. [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 7:15PM imak wrote: I loved porn when I got in it,I never faked an orgasm and when the light bulb went off I quit,I loved it when I was in it. Click to expand I guess I was wondering what made the light bulb go off? Do you feel that you changed yourself? Or did the business change you? This, I think is important and I think producers and directors should read this stuff and see that some of this stuff has consequences. I have asked myself many times (and my shrink) if sex work makes you crazy or if crazy people do sex work. My shrink says crazy people do sex work (fwiw) I hate people, sex work has allowed me to be my full nutty ass self. Legally I'm so nut's I'm disabled, but sex work has given me a way to be a total nut bag and not take charity. Click to expand Verbatim? (your shrink) I'm not sure I quite agree with him/her. As far as hating people, I don't think you're alone there by a long shot. Some people just weren't meant to be an interlocking piece of society and porn offers a sort of escape for those people. This society is fucked up so I don't necessarily think someone who doesn't quite fit in or play by the rules is crazy. Maybe those of us who can't tolerate the standard 9-5 are the sanest ones around? It's not natural (the way people live). I think some people just never get over that. I love drugs, I will take anything that might make me feel better,when I got into porn, I was expected to not feel pain, and my agent took me to the doctor and I got my first vicoden. Click to expand Well, I'm not quite as anti drug as many but that's really upsetting. To hear that an agent would deliberately do something like that. I'm not so much against really soft drugs like pot (as I think they actually help some people and I didn't find it addictive) but stuff like Vicoden is quite a bit worse, IMO. I'm pretty much pro choice. In other words, I think people should be free to make their own decisions. Even if they're bad ones. But when someone virtually puts the pill in another person's mouth and gives them a drink, I dunno. I guess my point is people who abuse drugs abuse drugs Click to expand I think that's probably true enough. To me, that smacks a lot more of sanity than people who say drugs are the source of addiction. Which I find totally ridiculous. A person would never take drugs in the first place if they didn't feel so bad they were willing to do anything to feel better. Of course, sometimes, people just take drugs out of curiosity and unfortunately, some of them are so addictive, you're pretty much hooked after the first couple of hits. But still, the dealer's bait is always something along the lines of "You wanna feel good?". If that's alluring enough for people of all walks of life, then I think there are bigger problems with the way we live than the drugs people take to try and block it all out. Sorry. I know that has little to do with porn. But it's all kinda connected. The reasons why two people (one in porn and the other not) might use heroin or something are not that different. Maybe people in porn are more likely to. But maybe the people in porn are more likely to be people who break the rules. [Link]
goten Member 29 Posts 6/07	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 7:46PM FTR, I never said I personally needed drugs, only that drugs of all-kind were eventually needed for many pornstars in order to stay high infront of a camera fucking day after day. If I was wrong, I apologize. Edited by - goten on 7/21/2007 7:48:08 PM [Link]

nietzsche Deactivated User 5470 Posts 8/03	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 7:52PM no that is not true at all! people don't take drugs cause of the stress of being in front of a camera, they take them cause they get degraded daily for your viewing pleasure Click to expand I popped when I read that. [Link]
nietzsche Deactivated User 5470 Posts 8/03	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 7:59PM Porn stars are my hero and my roll modelings. I look up to them-- especial when they drool gape piss and fist good. Click to expand Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. [Link]
cobalt60 Knuckle Dragger 2046 Posts 2/03	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 8:53PM Kami, you may not like people but you can't stop them from liking you. How does that make you feel? [Link]
nietzsche Deactivated User 5470 Posts 8/03	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 8:56PM The things I found difficult to tolerate were the purely unprofessional actions of others, and situations and conditions that were unconducive to working in any way, sexually oriented or not. Click to expand Would you mind elaborating? [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 8:57PM Dan wrote: Perhaps the only drug you might want to use as a porn actor is the 'Viagra'. If you can stay hard for the sexy lady, then why would you need to use any other drug? Click to expand ED is often physical problem that has nothing to do with how sexy the lady is. [Link]
poobah9 Member "Lovely to look upon, heaven to touch, a real damn shame they got to cost so much." 60 Posts 6/07	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 9:13PM [/quote]Kami i mean Imak. I love you. I know, that sounds so fanboi, but i mean it, because you tell the truth even when you are not being pressured to. That takes guts. Most folks don't have that kind of (guts=backbone). And that is a certain kind of honesty that a lot of people can't deal with. People who don't like you, probably don't for that reason. People who do like you, do, for the same reason. You've got so much good wisdom going for you, and I think you know that. On a selfish note, I wish (in vain) that we could sit a a table and have some drinks and shoot the shit together. I think that would be fun and enlightening. You don't know me, but I did take the red-eye out of a picture on your website one night, and you thanked me. OK, you've probably had more of this than you want to hear. Poobah9 "Don't piss down my neck an' then tell me it's rainin'." [Link]
cobalt60 Knuckle Dragger 2046 Posts 2/03	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 10:31PM poobah9 wrote: I wish (in vain) that we could sit a a table and have some drinks and shoot the shit together. I think that would be fun and enlightening. Click to expand Fuck that. It's a date. We need to show that woman that men like her for more than just her holes. And then get her high and gangbang her. [Link]
poobah9 Member "Lovely to look upon, heaven to touch, a real damn shame they got to cost so much." 60 Posts 6/07	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 10:59PM cobalt60 wrote: poobah9 wrote: I wish (in vain) that we could sit a a table and have some drinks and shoot the shit together. I think that would be fun and enlightening. Click to expand Fuck that. It's a date. We need to show that woman that men like her for more than just her holes. And then get her high and gangbang her. Click to expand You're forth sentence proves that you don't understand me. poobah9 "Don't piss down my neck an' then tell me it's rainin'." [Link]
cobalt60 Knuckle Dragger 2046 Posts 2/03	Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 11:18PM Oh, don't fuck with me. She knows I love her and she appreciates my sense of humor. That was a joke. Maybe a bad joke, but I know what I'm doing. I happen to understand and agree with everything you said, too. Let's be friends. [Link]
el glorioso Deactivated User 79 Posts 7/05	Posted - Jul 22 2007 : 12:20AM people breaks and be addicted in porn when they dont have control Edited by - el glorioso on 7/22/2007 12:23:28 AM [Link]

RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Jul 22 2007 : 12:31AM el glorioso wrote: people breaks and be addicted in porn when they dont have control Click to expand [Image not found DB] [Link]
KatjaKassin Senior Member 1257 Posts 5/03	Posted - Jul 22 2007 : 1:28AM I'm in this for 5 years now and I have never taken any sort of drugs, don't even smoke cigarettes or drink coffee. work conditions are bad sometimes and if you complain about the fact that there is no warm water in the location house you're a bitch, a diva, prima donna. that bothers me sometimes. there are a couple of other things like the photographer yelling at you because you don't look sexy enough posing outside in January at 50 degrees. and all you hear is "well if you don't want to be here we can get somebody else in a minute..." I also really hate make up artists who don't sanitize their brushes and get offended when you ask them to. stuff like that makes me angry but so far I could handle it all without drugs or therapy. [Link]
heart pure Deactivated User 66 Posts 7/07	Posted - Jul 22 2007 : 1:38AM "dead" eyes on drug don't get me up Edited by - heart pure on 7/22/2007 1:44:45 AM [Link]
el glorioso Deactivated User 79 Posts 7/05	Posted - Jul 22 2007 : 2:20AM RandomPrecision wrote: el glorioso wrote: people breaks and be addicted in porn when they dont have control Click to expand [Image not found DB] Click to expand hurt? Edited by - el glorioso on 7/22/2007 2:20:51 AM [Link]
poobah9 Member "Lovely to look upon, heaven to touch, a real damn shame they got to cost so much." 60 Posts 6/07	Posted - Jul 22 2007 : 2:23AM cobalt60 wrote: Oh, don't fuck with me. She knows I love her and she appreciates my sense of humor. That was a joke. Maybe a bad joke, but I know what I'm doing. I happen to understand and agree with everything you said, too. Let's be friends. Click to expand cobalt60, I'm not fucking with you. And, I'm not saying that i don't find her very sexually attractive. What I'm saying is that, if I, or you, make a joke, there are lots of ways to show that is what we are doing. I know, it's a lot more fun to just let it lie on the floor and see if anyone gets it. But, let's face it, most folks need a 'wink' to let them know it's a joke. Particularly if it's in print. Sitting at a bar, I'd probably know from your face you were joking. One of the things I love about the printed word is, it's exactness. Now, I don't want to throw a wet blanket on anyones campfire, but i think the printed word is one the last valuable things we all have left. Now, I 'd like to be friends too. Let's have a shot of . . .what ever we've got. Poobah9 "Don't piss down my neck an' then tell me it's rainin'." [Link]
Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03	Posted - Jul 22 2007 : 2:32AM Hey Mr. Nine Posts: do you think that just possibly a member with 9137 posts here might be capable of grasping the subtle nuances in a post by a member with 7790 posts here, without your intercession? [Link]
poobah9 Member "Lovely to look upon, heaven to touch, a real damn shame they got to cost so much." 60 Posts 6/07	Posted - Jul 22 2007 : 3:35AM Apparently, you correlate number of posts with ability to communicate. I'll leave that on the floor . . .where it belongs. Edited by - hardware on 7/22/2007 10:45:31 PM [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Jul 22 2007 : 3:36AM ^ Edit - I can't believe I can't even post a ROFL without having to edit. Edited by - randomprecision on 7/22/2007 3:37:42 AM [Link]
poobah9 Member "Lovely to look upon, heaven to touch, a real damn shame they got to cost so much." 60 Posts 6/07	Posted - Jul 22 2007 : 3:54AM Harri Patel wrote: Hey Mr. Nine Posts: do you think that just possibly a member with 9137 posts here might be capable of grasping the subtle nuances in a post by a member with 7790 posts here, without your intercession? Click to expand But, to answer your question, yes, I think they are capable. But, to question you, does it bother you that I want to be exact? "Don't piss down my neck an' then tell me it's rainin'." Edited by - hardware on 7/22/2007 10:46:15 PM [Link]
ragingbull Deactivated User 404 Posts 5/07	Posted - Jul 22 2007 : 6:06AM Are drugs rampant in the porn industry? I Elton John gay? But the thing is drugs are rampant in culture in general, both precription and street drugs. [Link]
Rasfor Member 23 Posts 5/07	Posted - Jul 22 2007 : 8:01AM imak wrote: like it or don't sex work breaks people, and your tea drinker is as broken as the next, she just funtions cause she never had a choice not to Click to expand That sounds like bullshit. Either someone is broken or not. If they function they're not. You seem to say that someone is broken whether they function or do not function, which pretty much makes everyone broken as well as making the word itself completely useless and lose all meaning. Sounds kind of typical for people who've been in the drug rehabilitation and therapy scene; those areas are full of really bad ideas that are just false and mainly used to keep people in therapy for the rest of their life. They're also easily discredited and show very little success compared to something sane like cognitive therapy. Edited by - Rasfor on 7/22/2007 8:11:11 AM [Link]
Clam Digger Deactivated User Many a man fails as an original thinker simply because his memory is too good. 2268 Posts 1/05	Posted - Jul 22 2007 : 1:20PM KatjaKassin wrote: I'm in this for 5 years ..... stuff like that makes me angry but so far I could handle it all without drugs or therapy. Click to expand Katja, you are truly remarkable. You could be one of the most level-headed people in porn. [Link]
KatarinaKat Member 250 Posts 11/06	Posted - Jul 22 2007 : 6:53PM KatjaKassin wrote: I'm in this for 5 years now and I have never taken any sort of drugs, don't even smoke cigarettes or drink coffee... Click to expand DITTO!!!! Except for the 5 years...1 year for me! and yes! Katja Kassin, is an amazing person! (Love you babe) XOXO Katarina Kat P.S. Wow...time goes by so fast. Just the other day I was posting my introduction thread...lol Edited by - hardware on 7/22/2007 10:46:51 PM [Link]
bino808 Member The most beautiful girl in the world 46 Posts 5/07	Posted - Jul 23 2007 : 3:58PM I have to say, honestly, lets look at this. What do drug addicts need more than anything else? Money. What is one thing that porn can provide? Money. It's as simple as that. The porn industry doesn't create addicts, but the lure of fast, easy money attracts them. [Link]
christianx Senior Member 1883 Posts 9/04	Posted - Jul 24 2007 : 9:48AM you are incorrect my friend, the porn industry does create the addicts. most of the girls when they get into the business start to make really good money and also begin to have a shitload of free time, and no adult supervision or parental influence. so lots of money + lots of free time + left to their own devices + males preying on their weaknesses = drug use. for the most part, not everyone. [Link]
bino808 Member The most beautiful girl in the world 46 Posts 5/07	Posted - Jul 24 2007 : 10:10AM ChristianX, I'm not saying that the industry is not a very easy place for girls/guys to abuse drugs. I work in the addiction field. Addiction is a disease, and most of these girls/guys had it before they ever thought about doing a porn movie. Maybe some people don't start using drugs until they get into the industry, but that doesn't mean they didn't have the disease before they got there. Sorry if my previous post was unclear. Edited by - hardware on 7/24/2007 12:45:50 PM [Link]

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goten
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 1:51AM

Lately I've been interested in entering porn. But everyone I've talked to ( including a man I know whp's involved in porn himself), has said it has a huge drug problem, and those ( like myself), usually have to start taking drugs in order to stay high to have sex in front of a camera crew day after day.
Is this generally true?
Edited by - goten on Jul 21 2007

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Shagdog
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 8:58AM

Drug use is a problem in our society. Why do you think companies’ drug test employees? And why they don’t follow up unless it becomes a problem that effects business.
If you need drugs to fuck on camera then stay out of porn.

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imak
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 9:06AM

no that is not true at all! people don't take drugs cause of the stress of being in front of a camera, they take them cause they get degraded daily for your viewing pleasure
and I as I have said before people who take drugs take drugs and people who don't don't

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RandomPrecision
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 9:17AM

I don't know, personally. Porn isn't a very structured type of work environment. That tends to attract the kind of people who avoid structure, restrictions and such.
But it really shouldn't matter. I'm not sure why you think someone else being into drugs means you have to. If you don't want to, then don't.
But if you think you would need drugs to "endure" the business, then the business is probably not for you for the simple reason that you're looking at it as a chore that could barely be endured.
My theory is that most people hate their jobs. But if you're choosing, don't choose something you know you're going to hate.
Yes. An environment that you find unpleasant can drive you to many things....including drugs. That's just a reality and it isn't limited to porn.
If you want to avoid drugs, then I see no reason why you shouldn't be able to. If you're worried that you'll get into them just because everyone else is, why? It's easy enough to refuse.

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imak
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 9:59AM

why do you think we are different from you?
We hate it truth be told, once we realize what's what
it's like any other jo, you do what you are qualified to and you pay your bills, we are just as human as you are

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imak
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 10:01AM

cause I'm retired and not selling anything I can say this
I chalenge any one to be a sex worker for a year and not need drugs or some escape, it's about as bad as it gets

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Kensington Chapp
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 10:47AM

Ladies & gentlemen;
Maybe the drug that this "insider" guy was referring to was Viagra?
If that's a problematic drug, then yeah, the porn industry is full of drugs.
But as for the usual substance abuse, has anyone considered that some actors may be feel-good junkies, and that's why they like to get high and fuck?

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RandomPrecision
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 11:33AM

I'm sorry. I must have put that the wrong way. I didn't mean porn folk aren't human or anything like that. I just meant that people have different levels of tolerance and different reasons for doing what they do. Some people seem to be able to tolerate anything. And I have no idea whatsoever what reasons people who do porn are. I can assume that for many, it's money. And I do understand what you mean about people doing what they're qualified to do. Believe me, millions of people are stuck in a life and a job they hate and don't know what to do.
But I also have to assume that a profession like porn would naturally attract at least a few who truly want to do it. I honestly can't say that I can tell the difference anymore. I used to think I could but now I'm not so sure. But you know....there are a lot of jobs that are fully capable of making someone just want to off themselves at the end of the day. I've been there. Many, many times. And I've never been anywhere near a porn set.
I don't doubt that many in the business utterly hate it. I don't know a whole lot about what goes on behind the scenes but just from what I can see in front of the lens, I completely get what you mean. I don't think porn has to be the way it is, however. And please excuse my ignorance. I understand that people have to pay the bills somehow. But are you saying you hate the whole idea of porn or do you hate the way it is done? I guess what I'm asking is, would most of the girls be happier if porn didn't have people like Khan Tusion and others like him (Sorry. I'm drawing a blank right now on the names)? I don't think any of the girls in porn should ever feel like they have to work with or for someone they find unpleasant to work with. And every director and producer should make every effort to make the experience as painless as possible (under the circumstances). Alas, as I understand it, porn is still largely unregulated in a lot of ways. And wherever you have that, you have people who take advantage of it.
I think most things are better with some restraint and people who know the meaning of the word. I'm sorry if this post seems ill informed. I don't read the insider stuff like many of the people here probably do so there's probably a lot of stuff I don't know. I just watch a couple of movies every now and then and look at pics.

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Dan
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 1:40PM

Perhaps the only drug you might want to use as a porn actor is the 'Viagra'.
If you can stay hard for the sexy lady, then why would you need to use any other drug?

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Festus
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 2:00PM

Why somebody need a drug to have a sexify good time with some of the most sluttyest womans in the world??!!
Not make no sense to me. Personaly I just has to look at there picture and my dinksy get hard like a tabasco sauce bottlings.
If I could be round them kind of girls all the times I be one happy Festus! That for sure. Busting many nuts each hour with gusto and gleeful!
Porn stars has the best lifes in the world-- they get paid to do the one thing that make anyone happy.
Porn stars are my hero and my roll modelings. I look up to them-- especial when they drool gape piss and fist good.
If sometime they use drugs it just for recreating use because they free spirits not because they need it to do their worklust.

---- I am a raincoats. One day I gonna direct a hole mess of great pornoing films and get that helping of fame and moneys I deserving for.

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Derek117
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 2:23PM

As others have posted, alcohol and drug use are rampant in much of American/Western society. The "problem" is with "abuse" or over use. And cover stories in mainstream mags like Time and People try to find answers to why celebrities (Linds Lohan, Charlie Sheen, Brit Spears...pick almost any celeb) who should have everything, allow themselves to fall victim to the disease of substance abuse.
My guess is the World of Porn parallels the Celebrity World in that both afford the performers enough time off that the "partying" lifestyle becomes a 24/7 thing--not the once/twice-a-year-on-vacation thing when most of us 9-to-5ers binge on booze & drugs.
Plus female porn performers face a highly competitive workplace, with new girls coming into the biz almost daily. Work is shrinking, and more extreme/distasteful scenes are become required even on Feature production sets for Vivid, Wicked, and Digitial Playground. And "isolation" from family and friends because of her career choice can also be factored in.
All this adds up to "stress," time-to-indulge, and a culture of "friends" in the porn biz who will never tell a girl NOT to do something that may be harmful to her health. Her "friends" don't want to tell her how to live her life. (Gee, thanks!)
Bottom line: the list of girls who came into porn as occasional users but developed a "problem" with booze or drugs would include almost every performer in the past seven years. Some stay and continue to work to feed their substance abuse; some clean themselves up, and change their work/party habits; and, others leave and try to recover their lives.

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Harri Patel
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 2:25PM

Do huge mugs of tea count as "drugs or some escape"?

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Kimi Lixx
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 2:25PM

Baby girl, I've been a sex worker for 15 years. I don't need to accept your challenge, I've already done it over and over. You already know that, though. I do know that I'm one of the exceptions, too.

A lot of what I found unpleasant in the porn industry wasn't in the performing. A physically difficult, or even uncomfortable/painful, scene wasn't really a drop in the bucket of unpleasantness. That's just me, though, I have an unreasonably high tolerance for physical discomfort. As long as I'm not seriously injured, I shrug most things off the minute they're done with. I also didn't choose to do a lot of the higher paying scenes that were physically demanding. I wasn't under pressure to make a lot of money, and I was experienced enough to understand my own mind and body enough to clearly anticipate the likely consequences.
The things I found difficult to tolerate were the purely unprofessional actions of others, and situations and conditions that were unconducive to working in any way, sexually oriented or not.
If boxers had to perform under the conditions that exist on most porn sets they wouldn't be able to take it, either. No matter how much punishment they're willing and able to accept physically.
Are drugs, of all kinds - recreational and performance enhancing, rampant in the sex industry? YES.

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imak
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 2:26PM

for random: cause quoting it would be to long.
you're not far off. I loved porn when I got in it,I never faked an orgasm and when the light bulb went off I quit,I loved it when I was in it.
I have asked myself many times (and my shrink) if sex work makes you crazy or if crazy people do sex work. My shrink says crazy people do sex work (fwiw)
I hate people, sex work has allowed me to be my full nutty ass self.
Legally I'm so nut's I'm disabled, but sex work has given me a way to be a total nut bag and not take charity.
I love drugs, I will take anything that might make me feel better,when I got into porn, I was expected to not feel pain, and my agent took me to the doctor and I got my first vicoden. I'm the sort of person that abuses every damn thing I can, so yeah I became addicted to pain killers.
I guess my point is people who abuse drugs abuse drugs

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imak
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 2:31PM

um your anorexic, and you support a miriad of clingers, escape takes a lot of shapes fwiw your the most functional human I know
Edited by - hardware on 7/21/2007 6:11:48 PM

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imak
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 2:40PM

no but starvation does
Edited by - hardware on 7/21/2007 6:13:45 PM

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imak
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 2:53PM

quoting myself for Kimi and Harry

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MissJanet
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 2:56PM

I agree about people who do drugs do them.
I catched multiple addictions basically all at once for no reason at all other then "I love to do drugs". I had a nice job, good money, a balanced life, felt reasonable save in my tracks, free to do drugs whenever I wanted.
Big fat mistake.
I had to learn that I'm prone to addictons and quite weak when it comes to battle them. 2 years later I had no job, no money, no positive outlook. The knowledge that the idiot fully responsible for that was me did not help much :).
Nowadays I have to avoid all kinds of drugs like the plague, after all the bad experiences I made it is still just one take and I'm on again, screw the consequences.

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imak
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 3:00PM

you should go into sex work.. there is no repercussions

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Kimi Lixx
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 3:14PM

I am not anorexic. If I am, I'm really bad at it. I do have body image issues, but I had those long before porn and I don't think they're an escape. Controlling myself may be a relief from stress, but again, nothing to do with sex work.
As for clingers, I birthed most of them, so that's just reproductive guilt. The one I didn't, well, I dunno about him, he's useful to me in his own way. It's probaby co-dependent or something dysfunctional, but since I'm in control, it's okay. Control = stress relief.
Yeah, huge cups of tea are an addiction. I had it before porn, too. I'm not giving it up.
I agree that people who abuse will be abusers and people who don't use won't use. I wonder about the people who aren't on one side of the fence or the other. People who haven't been exposed to drugs, or stress, or a group of people who are accepting of behavior that is usually considered unacceptable. I do think that the sex industry does tend to tip those people into using. I think a lot of the people that get tipped in that direction are the same ones who would cave in to peer pressure in a variety of settings.
I don't entirely agree with your shrink about crazy people doing sex work. I do sorta agree, though. I think that most people who consider sex work as a viable option in our country have disconnected from socially/culturally accepted norms. That may or may not be "crazy", but it is probably less functional when compared to people who act in a societally normal way.

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MissJanet
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 3:18PM

Oh no, thanks. I loosely had to do with porn business when I worked for a firm who did porn cover and other print media for a GGG style company here in germany. While the performers I met were all totally professional and working with them was fine, some of the producers, directors and promoters were such sleazy slimebags, it was simply unbearable.
Edited by - MissJanet on 7/21/2007 3:19:24 PM

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imak
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 4:40PM

like it or don't sex work breaks people, and your tea drinker is as broken as the next, she just funtions cause she never had a choice not to
Edited by - hardware on 7/21/2007 6:15:53 PM

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RandomPrecision
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 6:40PM

OK. I thought it might be something like this but as I said, I'm almost 100% ignorant of the behind the scenes. I've tried to read stuff like AVN and some other insider stuff and all the drama and stuff just turns me off. And plus, I'm sure stuff goes on that you won't read about anywhere.
You know. For a viewer like me, it's really confusing. One day, a girl seems perfectly happy doing what she does, doesn't seem to mind at all and then, she posts on ADT saying she hates porn. So what you and Imak have said has been somewhat illuminating.
And I think I may have some idea what you mean about unprofessional behavior. Obviously, I've never done porn but in every job I've ever worked, there have been those people who seem to exist to make everyone else's day miserable.....each and every day. And those were so-called proper jobs with quite a bit of structure, organization and rules. I can imagine that porn allows for quite a few unsavory characters.

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RandomPrecision
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 7:15PM

I guess I was wondering what made the light bulb go off? Do you feel that you changed yourself? Or did the business change you? This, I think is important and I think producers and directors should read this stuff and see that some of this stuff has consequences.

Verbatim? (your shrink) I'm not sure I quite agree with him/her. As far as hating people, I don't think you're alone there by a long shot. Some people just weren't meant to be an interlocking piece of society and porn offers a sort of escape for those people. This society is fucked up so I don't necessarily think someone who doesn't quite fit in or play by the rules is crazy. Maybe those of us who can't tolerate the standard 9-5 are the sanest ones around? It's not natural (the way people live). I think some people just never get over that.

Well, I'm not quite as anti drug as many but that's really upsetting. To hear that an agent would deliberately do something like that. I'm not so much against really soft drugs like pot (as I think they actually help some people and I didn't find it addictive) but stuff like Vicoden is quite a bit worse, IMO. I'm pretty much pro choice. In other words, I think people should be free to make their own decisions. Even if they're bad ones. But when someone virtually puts the pill in another person's mouth and gives them a drink, I dunno.

I think that's probably true enough. To me, that smacks a lot more of sanity than people who say drugs are the source of addiction. Which I find totally ridiculous. A person would never take drugs in the first place if they didn't feel so bad they were willing to do anything to feel better. Of course, sometimes, people just take drugs out of curiosity and unfortunately, some of them are so addictive, you're pretty much hooked after the first couple of hits.
But still, the dealer's bait is always something along the lines of "You wanna feel good?". If that's alluring enough for people of all walks of life, then I think there are bigger problems with the way we live than the drugs people take to try and block it all out. Sorry. I know that has little to do with porn. But it's all kinda connected. The reasons why two people (one in porn and the other not) might use heroin or something are not that different. Maybe people in porn are more likely to. But maybe the people in porn are more likely to be people who break the rules.

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goten
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 7:46PM

FTR, I never said I personally needed drugs, only that drugs of all-kind were eventually needed for many pornstars in order to stay high infront of a camera fucking day after day.
If I was wrong, I apologize.
Edited by - goten on 7/21/2007 7:48:08 PM

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nietzsche
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 7:52PM

I popped when I read that.

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nietzsche
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 7:59PM

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

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cobalt60
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 8:53PM

Kami, you may not like people but you can't stop them from liking you. How does that make you feel?

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nietzsche
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 8:56PM

Would you mind elaborating?

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RandomPrecision
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 8:57PM

ED is often physical problem that has nothing to do with how sexy the lady is.

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poobah9
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 9:13PM

[/quote]Kami i mean Imak.
I love you. I know, that sounds so fanboi, *but* i mean it, because you tell the truth even when you are not being pressured to. That takes *guts*. Most folks don't have that kind of (guts=backbone). And that is a certain kind of honesty that a lot of people can't deal with. People who don't like you, probably don't for that reason. People who do like you, do, for the same reason. You've got so much good wisdom going for you, and I think you know that.
On a selfish note, I wish (in vain) that we could sit a a table and have some drinks and shoot the shit together. I think that would be fun and enlightening.
You don't know me, but I did take the red-eye out of a picture on your website one night, and you thanked me. OK, you've probably had more of this than you want to hear.
Poobah9
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cobalt60
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 10:31PM

Fuck that. It's a date. We need to show that woman that men like her for more than just her holes. And then get her high and gangbang her.

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poobah9
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 10:59PM

You're forth sentence proves that you don't understand me.
poobah9
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cobalt60
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Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 11:18PM

Oh, don't fuck with me. She knows I love her and she appreciates my sense of humor. That was a joke. Maybe a bad joke, but I know what I'm doing. I happen to understand and agree with everything you said, too. Let's be friends.

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el glorioso
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Posted - Jul 22 2007 : 12:20AM

people breaks and be addicted in porn when they dont have control
Edited by - el glorioso on 7/22/2007 12:23:28 AM

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RandomPrecision
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Posted - Jul 22 2007 : 12:31AM

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KatjaKassin
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Posted - Jul 22 2007 : 1:28AM

I'm in this for 5 years now and I have never taken any sort of drugs, don't even smoke cigarettes or drink coffee.

work conditions are bad sometimes and if you complain about the fact that there is no warm water in the location house you're a bitch, a diva, prima donna. that bothers me sometimes. there are a couple of other things like the photographer yelling at you because you don't look sexy enough posing outside in January at 50 degrees. and all you hear is "well if you don't want to be here we can get somebody else in a minute..."
I also really hate make up artists who don't sanitize their brushes and get offended when you ask them to. stuff like that makes me angry but so far I could handle it all without drugs or therapy.

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heart pure
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Posted - Jul 22 2007 : 1:38AM

"dead" eyes on drug don't get me up
Edited by - heart pure on 7/22/2007 1:44:45 AM

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el glorioso
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Posted - Jul 22 2007 : 2:20AM

hurt?
Edited by - el glorioso on 7/22/2007 2:20:51 AM

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poobah9
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Posted - Jul 22 2007 : 2:23AM

cobalt60,
I'm not fucking with you. And, I'm not saying that i don't find her very sexually attractive. What I'm saying is that, if I, or you, make a joke, there are lots of ways to *show* that is what we are doing.
I know, it's a lot more fun to just let it lie on the floor and see if anyone gets it. But, let's face it, most folks need a 'wink' to let them know it's a joke. Particularly if it's in print. Sitting at a bar, I'd probably know from your face you were joking. One of the things I love about the printed word is, it's exactness. Now, I don't want to throw a wet blanket on anyones campfire, but i think the printed word is one the last valuable things we all have left.
Now, I 'd like to be friends too. Let's have a shot of . . .what ever we've got.
Poobah9
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Harri Patel
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Posted - Jul 22 2007 : 2:32AM

Hey Mr. Nine Posts: do you think that just possibly a member with 9137 posts here might be capable of grasping the subtle nuances in a post by a member with 7790 posts here, without your intercession?

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poobah9
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Posted - Jul 22 2007 : 3:35AM

Apparently, you correlate number of posts with ability to communicate.
I'll leave that on the floor . . .where it belongs.
Edited by - hardware on 7/22/2007 10:45:31 PM

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RandomPrecision
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Edit - I can't believe I can't even post a ROFL without having to edit.
Edited by - randomprecision on 7/22/2007 3:37:42 AM

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poobah9
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Posted - Jul 22 2007 : 3:54AM

But, to answer your question, yes, I think they are capable.
But, to question you, does it bother you that I want to be exact?
"Don't piss down my neck an' then tell me it's rainin'."
Edited by - hardware on 7/22/2007 10:46:15 PM

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ragingbull
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Posted - Jul 22 2007 : 6:06AM

Are drugs rampant in the porn industry? I Elton John gay? But the thing is drugs are rampant in culture in general, both precription and street drugs.

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Rasfor
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Posted - Jul 22 2007 : 8:01AM

That sounds like bullshit. Either someone is broken or not. If they function they're not.
You seem to say that someone is broken whether they function or do not function, which pretty much makes everyone broken as well as making the word itself completely useless and lose all meaning.
Sounds kind of typical for people who've been in the drug rehabilitation and therapy scene; those areas are full of really bad ideas that are just false and mainly used to keep people in therapy for the rest of their life. They're also easily discredited and show very little success compared to something sane like cognitive therapy.
Edited by - Rasfor on 7/22/2007 8:11:11 AM

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Clam Digger
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Posted - Jul 22 2007 : 1:20PM

Katja, you are truly remarkable. You could be one of the most level-headed people in porn.

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KatarinaKat
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Posted - Jul 22 2007 : 6:53PM

DITTO!!!! Except for the 5 years...1 year for me!

and yes! Katja Kassin, is an amazing person! (Love you babe)
XOXO
Katarina Kat
P.S. Wow...time goes by so fast. Just the other day I was posting my introduction thread...lol
Edited by - hardware on 7/22/2007 10:46:51 PM

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bino808
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Posted - Jul 23 2007 : 3:58PM

I have to say, honestly, lets look at this. What do drug addicts need more than anything else? Money. What is one thing that porn can provide? Money. It's as simple as that. The porn industry doesn't create addicts, but the lure of fast, easy money attracts them.

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Posted - Jul 24 2007 : 9:48AM

you are incorrect my friend, the porn industry does create the addicts. most of the girls when they get into the business start to make really good money and also begin to have a shitload of free time, and no adult supervision or parental influence. so lots of money + lots of free time + left to their own devices + males preying on their weaknesses = drug use. for the most part, not everyone.

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bino808
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Posted - Jul 24 2007 : 10:10AM

ChristianX,
I'm not saying that the industry is not a very easy place for girls/guys to abuse drugs. I work in the addiction field. Addiction is a disease, and most of these girls/guys had it before they ever thought about doing a porn movie. Maybe some people don't start using drugs until they get into the industry, but that doesn't mean they didn't have the disease before they got there. Sorry if my previous post was unclear.
Edited by - hardware on 7/24/2007 12:45:50 PM

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