I've said this many times here , it's become impossible to say no to a black man apparently
Said this already I really can't understand what a woman who sleep with a black woman is considered racist if she doesn't sleep with a black man
Your insider in the industry, so you know full well what really goes on. You know it, agents pressure girls not to do interracial, I'm sure they tried to force you but because of your die hard lust for brothers you resisted, right?
Someone mentioned earlier in the thread the example of football fans calling a player a monkey in Europe, as racism. This is not necessarily racism. If I call someone of darker skin the n word, that in itself doesn't mean I am racist, it just means I knew the racial slur would hurt him. If I was to instead call all people of darker skin the n word, that would make me a racist. Also someone brought up examples of Australian and New Zealand performers having different attitudes toward interracial. You have to realize that despite the geographic proximity, New Zealand and Australia have vastly differing multicultural development histories. In Australia, the darker skinned indigenous population was predominantly pacifist, and became victim to state level discrimination (e.g. see the stolen generation as just one example). In New Zealand, European colonists were fought to stalemate by the Maori population, which resulted in the signing of the treaty of Waitangi. The treaty enshrined the rights of the indigenous population in the New Zealand constitution, and as a result New Zealand has had relatively harmonious relations between different ethnicity for a longer period than has Australia. That is not to say either nation is wholly racist or not racist of course, but that's a little background about how the prevailing attitudes developed in these countries.
https://twitter.com/XMISHACROSSX/status/509667061283696640 "Its so funny how IR is not a case in european porn. People dont Ask if You do black guys, i guess for them its fuckin obvious You do!!" "there are US guys who come to europe to shoot. My point is, agencies/producers should Ask performers if they do IR earlier not 5 minutes before the scene. Its like fuckin important!" __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ ^^ This is one of the points I was trying to make in this thread. European girls aren't asked about black men, so they feel obligated to do it. A lot more of them, like American girls would be against it, if more were asked like American girls. It's unfortunate, but true. That's all.
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Posted - Oct 16 2014 : 12:34PM
^But that raises the question of WHY European producers and directors do not provide an option. I think that the answer is relevant to any speculation about whether or not many European pornstars would decline to shoot IR scenes if given a choice. Mischa Cross would sooner be pissed on (literally) than have sex with a black man. I don't know why we should assume that many other European pornstars share that kind of aversion to IR. Edited by - misspornUSA on 10/16/2014 1:03:12 PM
The answers are two, so far nobody complained it was just a given , IR wasn't even a category it was just sex , this changed recently apparently those coming back from the USA learnt IR could be valued differently and they can earn more with it , so they begun to differentiate. The second thing is if YOU make a difference to the point you have to ask me if I do or don't IR why didn't you ask me in advance? Why 5 minutes before the shoot? I'd be pissed to say the very least , most Euro stars do anal , yet it is not granted, if it is an anal scene must be agreed in advance , you don't ask 5 minutes before the shoot.
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Posted - Oct 16 2014 : 1:07PM
In Europe, are pornstars paid more to shoot IR? Does the category of "first IR" exist? Mischa herself wrote: "My point is, agencies/producers should Ask performers if they do IR." That was her overall point. She was annoyed that she was asked 5 minutes before the shoot, but her real problem is that "IR is not a case in european porn" and she wishes that it was. Edited by - misspornUSA on 10/16/2014 1:11:45 PM
^ At this moment I don't know , but firsts begun to be marketed as such in the last couple years. The star though know they can earn more in the USA for a first iR so some may retain with this purpose , if it is anal and DP they may earn a lot more
Valentina Nappi did three IR scenes in Europe two were anal , none of them was marketed as IR , her very first IR was also anal but was issue this year after she did plenty of them
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Posted - Oct 16 2014 : 1:29PM
^That seems to demonstrate that, generally, it is only after European pornstars absorb some of the American mentality that they begin to view IR as something unique. That would seem to undermine ghost88's theory that European pornstars only shoot IR out of a sense of "obligation." Other than Americans screwing with their heads I don't think that IR would be an issue for most of them.
^ even a white supremacists porn star did IR in Europe Anyway if you happen to see the BTS with Valentina Nappi in XXXFucktory The Audition there is a part which is very related to this thread , unfortunately it's all in Italian since Valentina could not speak a word in English back then (two years ago) She arrived in Budapest carried by her BF who drove her to Rocco's estate, he brought her to know his crew and then presented her her costar which was Mike Chapman a black talent, she didn't blink an eye even though she didn't know her first scene would be an IR (and anal at that) ,Rocco introduced her to him , after some flirting , Rocco had her giving head to both , at one point he asked her what was the difference, she seemed lost , trying to figure out what he meant she tastes them both and begun to compare their texture , Rocco insisted , what is the difference ? she begun to touch them and check them but can't answer and said they were the same , then Rocco asked once again , what is the difference? She looked back at him still completely lost, unable to understand his question then asked him "in che senso" (In what manner?). She was completely unable to grasp he was asking her to compare a black dick with a white one , she literally COULD NOT see THAT difference , had to ask what did he mean with such question. Rocco gave up, did not insist. It was priceless , most Eurostar see sex on screen the same way , of course there are those who don't but for the most part they are like Valentina
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Posted - Oct 16 2014 : 2:03PM
^I don't think I ever got around to watching the BTS for that movie, but now you've given me an incentive. I did enjoy Valentina's scene with Michael Chapman though.