Is it racist not to like interracial porn?

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zoroisficticious Member 11 Posts 10/16	Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 1:21PM The reasons I have for not liking it is that I think it's an attack on white men. In my opinion it's about degrading a white man and trying to create a stereotype that black men are better lovers and that white women don't find white men attractive. As a white male this is a major turn off for me and because of this I choose to boycott performers who do scenes with black men because I don't want to take the chance I could potentially be supporting someone who is racist against white men. I told my friends this and one of them was like "your racist!" even though I don't feel I've done anything racist. I just don't like the negative stereotypes that type of porn portrays and I feel the black male and white female performers have some deep seeded hatred towards white men if they are going to make that type of porn. In fact I feel like I'm standing up against racism. What is your opinions on this? I'm just curious and I'm not looking to start an argument just trying to see people's opinions on this. [Link]
2bollocks Senior Member 3587 Posts 3/10	Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 1:29PM lol the users here are overwhelmingly super liberal so I think that lets you know what they think of your opinions. [Link]
zoroisficticious Member 11 Posts 10/16	Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 1:45PM 2bollocks wrote: lol the users here are overwhelmingly super liberal so I think that lets you know what they think of your opinions. Click to expand I'm liberal too what does voting democrat have to do with this? I think it's racist that in interracial porn they either make the white husband/boyfriend watch or say something disparaging against white men. Then I was told I'm racist by someone for complaining that was racist. I'm just looking for clairity here. [Link]
Aya Senior Member All The Cool Girls Are Lesbians 7439 Posts 6/14	Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 1:58PM Well you are painting all IR porn with the same brush when much of it has nothing to do with white men at all. I mean if there's a scene that has nothing to do with race and just happens to be BM/WF, and you jump to the conclusion that it's about degrading white men, seems more like a personal issue. I can understand why people would call you racist for jumping to that conclusion. [Link]
zoroisficticious Member 11 Posts 10/16	Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 2:10PM Aya wrote: Well you are painting all IR porn with the same brush when much of it has nothing to do with white men at all. I mean if there's a scene that has nothing to do with race and just happens to be BM/WF, and you jump to the conclusion that it's about degrading white men, seems more like a personal issue. I can understand why people would call you racist for jumping to that conclusion. Click to expand Well the scenes I saw were cuckold scenes and a white women was making racist statements to the white man about penis size. The other ones were a white man being tied up forced to watch his wife get raped by a black man and she liked it and ended up leaving with the rapist. I saw this when I was 13 years old and ever since I can't look at interaccial. [Link]

Mister Fahrenheit All-Star Member Meh 4655 Posts 10/13	Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 2:16PM ^ Well there is plenty of interracial made that doesn't feature cuckolding. In fact it is the majority. If a scenario turns you off that's fine. There's no rule that says everyone has to like every type of porn. [Link]
zoroisficticious Member 11 Posts 10/16	Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 2:35PM Mister Fahrenheit wrote: ^ Well there is plenty of interracial made that doesn't feature cuckolding. In fact it is the majority. If a scenario turns you off that's fine. There's no rule that says everyone has to like every type of porn. Click to expand Yes but somehow not liking interracial =racist. But not liking gay porn never gets you accused of homophobia. [Link]
Mister Fahrenheit All-Star Member Meh 4655 Posts 10/13	Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 2:40PM ^ Maybe in your circle of friends that's the case but many people on this forum, including myself, aren't into cuckolding scenes. When I've said that in the past no one has accused me of being racist. Perhaps it's like Aya said and your friends misunderstood you? If you were speaking only of cuckolding scenes, didn't make that clear, and they thought you were talking about all interracial scenes, I could see why they might be thrown by that. Edit: And FYI, there's no need to quote an entire post if it's right above yours. You can just use a little up-arrow, like this: ^ Edited by - Mister Fahrenheit on 10/8/2016 2:44:13 PM [Link]
Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10	Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 2:46PM I would suggest that it is cuckold porn that is degrading, not the race of the performers. And, I honestly can't figure out who it is that's supposed to be getting-off to racist cuckold porn in the first place [Link]
Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02	Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 2:47PM Liberal I think you're reaching, zoroisficticious. If you see a bunch of BM/WF titles it is because there is a demand for the genre, not because producers are trying to ram some political agenda down your throat. Attempting the latter is a good way to lose money, and porn producers hate to lose money. As to the real world, confidence in yourself is what the majority of women will be attracted to, not the color of your skin, much less the size of your penis. So, even if producers had the nefarious goal in mind that you want to attribute to them it would be a waste of money. Did I mention that producers hate to lose money? PS - for future reference, the phrase is "deep seated", not "deep seeded". [Link]
misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13	Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 2:59PM My answer to your topic question is no. zoroisficticious wrote: The reasons I have for not liking it is that I think it's an attack on white men. In my opinion it's about degrading a white man and trying to create a stereotype that black men are better lovers and that white women don't find white men attractive. Click to expand It's called roleplay. It's about getting off consumers who find that particular kind of roleplay to be appealing. zoroisficticious wrote: As a white male this is a major turn off for me and because of this I choose to boycott performers who do scenes with black men because I don't want to take the chance I could potentially be supporting someone who is racist against white men. Click to expand Here is the description of a scene released today that also contains roleplay: "While Stepmom, Jelena Jensen is outside, enjoying the beautiful sunshine. Stepdaughter, Gina Valentina, stays in doors watching TV. While tending to a plant, Jelena is stung by a bee. As she rushes inside the house, trying to decide what to do about the pain, Gina decides to help her mommy, by trying out a technique she recently saw on TV. All she has to do is find out where mommy got stung and suck out the stinger. Jelena is a little apprehensive at first, however unable to handle the pain she lets her daughter suck it out. The stinger just happens to be, above her breast. Desperate times call for desperate measure and so, Gina sucks it out, while lingering a little too long on her mommy's gorgeous tits. She begins to suck on her hard nipples, which leads to a steamy mother/daughter lesbian sex scene. You have to see, to believe!" What are your thoughts on this scene? What do you think its purpose is? Does it say anything to you about the values of the performers who appeared in it? Is it promoting anything? [Link]
misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13	Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 3:01PM Goldstein wrote: I would suggest that it is cuckold porn that is degrading, not the race of the performers. And, I honestly can't figure out who it is that's supposed to be getting-off to racist cuckold porn in the first place Click to expand The intended audience for cuckold raceplay would seem to be white men who have that particular fetish. [Link]
misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13	Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 3:04PM Mister Fahrenheit wrote: Perhaps it's like Aya said and your friends misunderstood you? Click to expand The OP wrote: "I choose to boycott performers who do scenes with black men because I don't want to take the chance I could potentially be supporting someone who is racist against white men. I told my friends this and one of them was like 'your racist!'" To me it sounds like his friends called him racist for his boycott of performers and not for disliking scenes. [Link]
2bollocks Senior Member 3587 Posts 3/10	Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 3:08PM zoroisficticious wrote: I'm liberal too what does voting democrat have to do with this? I think it's racist that in interracial porn they either make the white husband/boyfriend watch or say something disparaging against white men. Then I was told I'm racist by someone for complaining that was racist. I'm just looking for clairity here. Click to expand You're only a new age liberal if you have a problem with every type of racism except for racism against whites. Edited by - 2bollocks on 10/8/2016 3:19:50 PM [Link]
2bollocks Senior Member 3587 Posts 3/10	Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 3:10PM misspornUSA wrote: The intended audience for cuckold raceplay would seem to be white men who have that particular fetish. Click to expand Or racist black people who get off on the degradation of their 'oppressors'. Edited by - 2bollocks on 10/8/2016 3:12:12 PM [Link]

Mermaidprince Deactivated User 129 Posts 8/16	Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 3:12PM No it not racist not to like interrecial. You don't like it that it. I didn't feel about porn movies that black man are better. In real life, most women are not attracted to black man. Most of them are not very clean person and still don't shave which it's a turn off for women. Most porn is creepy and bad. Same for most businesses and people. They are so much violence in society and it pass. Of course someone going to tell you that you're racist. That how you create racist, talk about it, it's the perfect way to make believe people it's still exist. [Link]
Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10	Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 3:18PM misspornUSA wrote: The intended audience for cuckold raceplay would seem to be white men who have that particular fetish. Click to expand Sorry, I just don't see that at all. Maybe it's for women who want to hurt and shame their husbands/boyfriends? Isn't the whole point of cuckold being the man being rendered impotent by the woman, that he'll tolerate anything she does to him to desperately "hang on" to her in some way? I just can't believe that there is a huge niche demand for it. Over the years, many of us put up with certain sex acts (i.e. tune them out) in order to enjoy performers we like and/or otherwise hot scenes. If this was such a hot niche market, wouldn't there be site-after-site of Black male/White female/White cuckold husband porn? Sean Michaels had a line... Scenes turn-up here and there... I'd love to know what the actual Internet searches and sales info are for the niche before I accept any claims of huge market demand. Edited by - Goldstein on 10/8/2016 3:20:18 PM [Link]
misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13	Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 3:22PM 2bollocks wrote: misspornUSA wrote: The intended audience for cuckold raceplay would seem to be white men who have that particular fetish. Click to expand Or racist black people who get off on the degradation of their 'oppressors'. Edited by - 2bollocks on 10/8/2016 3:12:12 PM Click to expand I'm only speaking about the intended audience. I haven't read or heard anything indicating that the intended audience is black men. Also notable that the proof is often in the scene itself, since in many such scenes the woman will specifically, directly, address the white male viewer. [Link]
misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13	Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 3:27PM ^^I didn't say anything about there being "a huge niche demand" for IR cuckolding scenes, nor did I claim that there is a "huge market demand" for those scenes. I have no idea about any of that. I do have an idea about who these scenes are aimed at, and like I said in my most recent comment, the proof is often in the scene itself when the performer addresses the audience. [Link]
2bollocks Senior Member 3587 Posts 3/10	Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 3:32PM ^^My own "idea" is based on the fact that I have seen tons of black members of porn message boards whining about girls not doing black guys in scenes and claim they're racists(these would be the type of people who would get off on seeing black guys pound white women while a white guy gets degraded). I have never once met a self hating white guy who gets off on this or even seen any online who are self hating 'cucks'. [Link]
misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13	Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 3:42PM 2bollocks wrote: ^^My own "idea" is based on the fact that I have seen tons of black members of porn message boards whining about girls not doing black guys in scenes and claim they're racists (these would be the type of people who would get off on seeing black guys pound white women while a white guy gets degraded). I have never once met a self hating white guy who gets off on this or even seen any online who are self hating 'cucks'. Click to expand I don't know why you've concluded that IR trolls would enjoy cuckolding scenes. Calling a performer "racist" for not shooting IR has nothing to do with enjoying cuckold scenes. You've seen a lot of celebration of cuckold fetish content among IR trolls? I have met (and know) cucks (including those who are specifically into IR cuckolding) and encountered them online. Do you have much experience with the kink/fetish/BDSM community? Edited by - misspornUSA on 10/8/2016 3:45:11 PM [Link]
killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18634 Posts 4/08	Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 3:44PM To the OP: given that pretty much every single porn girl (white, black or otherwise) does more porn scenes with white men than they do with black men, I think it's pretty safe to say that they don't have anything against white men. So you can say that you boycott them, but don't say that it's because you're worried that they might be racist against white men. It simply isn't true. On the other hand, there have been documented cases of porn women who are racist against black men (most of whom don't work with black men, but a few who do). Do you boycott their scenes? As mentioned by misspornusa, the intended audience for IR cuckold porn, and in fact most IR porn in general, is white men first, and everyone else after that. It may seem strange, but it's true. The white male who is "into" interracial porn (as in, he specifically seeks it out because it is a black man fucking a white woman) is usually into the idea that the woman is being 'naughtier than unsual' because not only is she having sex, but she is having sex with a black man. That, or he sees the black man as an oversexed, animalistic being, and the idea of seeing one of his white women with the oversexed beast is a turn-on. People who run interracial porn sites with heavy racial themes have attested here at ADT that not only is the majority of their audience white men, but that it's common for their audience to be openly racist white men. I guess what I'm saying is, I think you have it backwards. Interracial porn is far more likely to be racist against black people than white people. If you boycott women who work with black men, then perhaps you might say you have a reason for doing so because you don't want them to be doing scenes that are racist against black people. But then what do you make of porn performers who refuse to work with black men? Would they be more racist, or less racist? It seems to me that you'd have to boycott all white women then. Edited by - killbillvol69 on 10/8/2016 3:46:33 PM [Link]
2bollocks Senior Member 3587 Posts 3/10	Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 3:50PM ^Lets keep in mind that black people make up 13% of the population while whites are the vast majority, so obviously white males would be the main buyers of most porn genres. If we keep correct ratio's and percentages in mind for buyers of each genre based on race then we'll be able to make this clear. [Link]
mbc76 Member 37 Posts 2/11	Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 4:03PM Is it racist not to like interracial porn? Yes, but only if you're a white American male in 2016. [Link]
chessmaster Member 768 Posts 6/12	Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 4:52PM "Is it racist to not like interracial porn?" No. Your reasoning for boycotting white female performers who do ir is odd. There's no way every white woman that fucks black dudes on camera(even the ones that do the cuck thing which you associate with all interracial porn) is racist against white men. I suppose a very small percentage(1%) of them could be racist against whites but certainly not all of them. Because this should be obvious, I take your boycott as a translation for: "this white girl fucks niggers on camera so I'm boycotting her." am I right or wrong? On the topic of the cuckold niche, first of all, no, black guys don't watch cuckold porn for the degradation of our "oppressors". That might be the dumbest shit I've ever heard. For one thing that cuck shit is a boner killer unless you're into that. I'm not sure the intended audience is even a broad range of white males. Its most likely aimed at a small portion of white men into the cuck fetish specifically. I don't think there is a HUGE market for it at all. One last thing. Some of you guys have serious insecurities. Edited by - Chessmaster on 10/8/2016 4:55:01 PM [Link]

Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 5:17PM zoroisficticious wrote: The reasons I have for not liking it is that I think it's an attack on white men. Click to expand Often for white male sexual pleasure. Maybe you're not exploring the possibilities of kink to their fullest extent. [Link]
balbars Member 668 Posts 4/10	Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 5:56PM zoroisficticious wrote: The reasons I have for not liking it is that I think it's an attack on white men. In my opinion it's about degrading a white man and trying to create a stereotype that black men are better lovers and that white women don't find white men attractive. As a white male this is a major turn off for me and because of this I choose to boycott performers who do scenes with black men because I don't want to take the chance I could potentially be supporting someone who is racist against white men. I told my friends this and one of them was like "your racist!" even though I don't feel I've done anything racist. I just don't like the negative stereotypes that type of porn portrays and I feel the black male and white female performers have some deep seeded hatred towards white men if they are going to make that type of porn. In fact I feel like I'm standing up against racism. What is your opinions on this? I'm just curious and I'm not looking to start an argument just trying to see people's opinions on this. Click to expand The excuses posted are, if we turn the argument and put a white performer fucking a black woman, we could start a whole not fair discussion about something that doesn't mean racism at all. We all get it, you do not like it, solution is quite simple, do not watch it, there are plenty sex option in the video market to satisfy anyone whitout complains. [Link]
samueljr Senior Member 1371 Posts 11/11	Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 7:15PM Is it racist not to like interracial porn? No. But when you boycott performers because they shoot with black men, sounds like prejudiced. Remember their job is fuck and suck so is normal some performers shoot interracial, anal, dp, gangbang... "But then what do you make of porn performers who refuse to work with black men? Would they be more racist, or less racist?" I don't think a performer is racist bc she refuse shoot with black male. She decides if she wants IR, anal, DP... It's not an obligation shoot interracial scenes to be a pornstar. Some performers called racists by haters(specially on twitter) already shot lesbian scenes with black females. There are some performers doing IR but their husbands/boyfriends are white guys. Type of racism? Of course not! Some performers retire after shooting IR scenes. Type of racism? Of course not! But I'm curious about it. [Link]
SP_Love Senior Member "Freaky Deakies Need Love Too" 1181 Posts 2/11	Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 8:50PM Mermaidprince wrote: Of course someone going to tell you that you're racist. That how you create racist, talk about it, it's the perfect way to make believe people it's still exist. Click to expand Right!? Nobody believes that an entire ethnic group possess characteristics specific to that group so as to distinguish it as inferior. Racism is such made up hogwash! In real life, most women are not attracted to black man. Most of them are not very clean person and still don't shave which it's a turn off for women. Click to expand Fascinating. Most black men have terrible grooming habits, completely ignore their personal hygiene and women find them to be repulsive? I'm always learning something new on this website. "Twist Your Head Around; It's All Around You" [Link]
Flash Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01	Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 8:58PM MOD: The racism in this thread needs to stop. If you are not sure of this warning applies to you, it probably does. [Link]
A_Fan Deactivated User 1187 Posts 9/16	Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 9:57PM zoroisficticious wrote: Yes but somehow not liking interracial =racist. But not liking gay porn never gets you accused of homophobia. Click to expand Your original post didn't indicate it was cuckhold scenes you have seen. Those types of scenes are often racist as the "unworthy white husband" needs a big dicked black man to "satisfy his wife". If that puts you off, that is not racist in itself, it just puts you off. Many IR scenarios get racist like the cuckhold ones; however, many are just pure gonzo sex and it is up to the viewer to come up with their own conclusion. A racist viewer may dream that it is a slave fucking his master's wife or daughter or something (which is racist). Whether you are racist or not, only you can determine that. Someone who could say "my favorite performer did IR and now I won't watch her" is likely racist. You see what I mean? [Link]
SkyHigh Member 412 Posts 4/11	Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 11:22PM You realize that the people buying most of that cuck porn aren't black men, right? I would suggest that you just stay away from Dogfart productions. [Link]
2bollocks Senior Member 3587 Posts 3/10	Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 12:40AM ^Again, looking at the pure quantity of who the buyers are is not the right answer on wether black or white guys watch it more in general. There's nearly 5 times as many whites in the US as there are blacks. Besides I still have yet to see evidence that this is mostly a fetish for white dudes. Edited by - 2bollocks on 10/9/2016 12:53:08 AM [Link]
Xhakorudan Member 577 Posts 3/15	Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 1:47AM It seems like you have a bigger problem with cuckold porn than IR porn. HOwever, cuckold porn is meant to demean the other. I am not sure how it really is "degrading" to men of a certain race. There ARE other categories and types of porn. If you want white on white fucking only, then watch it. [Link]
A-ten Deactivated User 581 Posts 8/07	Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 2:27AM Cukold scenes based on race are racist. Same as scenes with white dudes degrading some black woman in a racist fashion. I don't watch any scenes involving a racist element. I don't enjoy them. [Link]

ErectionAddiction Member Cocks Can Never Ever Be Too BIG !!!!!!! 6 Posts 9/16	Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 4:17AM I really love Interracial porn but porn is a very selective personal thing Cuckfold porn will only be directed towards a certain section of the Interrcial viewers and will admit It it not for everyone. If you find it a turn off then that is your personal choice and In no way racist or anything else [Link]
BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07	Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 5:53AM The OP conflates white cuck porn and IR porn. They are not the same thing. White cuck porn viewers are mostly male subs/masochists. The genre is niche but those who like it are loyal and willing to pay for it hence why it gets produced. I think it was the producer for the Mr. POV site who said he shot cuck scenes becsuse they were so requested and sold very well. Clearly the fantasy appeals to white subs/masochists. Edited by - BlackSix on 10/9/2016 5:54:51 AM [Link]
chessmaster Member 768 Posts 6/12	Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 5:55AM 2bollocks wrote: ^Again, looking at the pure quantity of who the buyers are is not the right answer on wether black or white guys watch it more in general. There's nearly 5 times as many whites in the US as there are blacks. Besides I still have yet to see evidence that this is mostly a fetish for white dudes. Edited by - 2bollocks on 10/9/2016 12:53:08 AM Click to expand [Link]
Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10	Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 11:00AM BlackSix wrote: The OP conflates white cuck porn and IR porn. They are not the same thing. White cuck porn viewers are mostly male subs/masochists. The genre is niche but those who like it are loyal and willing to pay for it hence why it gets produced. I think it was the producer for the Mr. POV site who said he shot cuck scenes becsuse they were so requested and sold very well. Clearly the fantasy appeals to white subs/masochists. Click to expand The OP conflates white cuck porn and IR porn. They are not the same thing. You would think this should be obvious, but the IR crowd is a tough mistress [Link]
Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12	Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 11:40AM 2bollocks wrote: lol the users here are overwhelmingly super liberal so I think that lets you know what they think of your opinions. Click to expand I'm a major proponent of IR not just in porn but in IRL too. However I hardly think it makes anyone racist if they don't like it. Someone who dislikes IR could be racist, and indeed I've seen many anti-IR comments all over social media which are really blatantly racist and they make no secret of it, but I am not one to assume the worst about someone first. I give most the benefit of the doubt. A few white liberals and blacks don't like IR porn either because they think it is stigmatizing, failing to realize much of it is deliberately provocative because that makes it hot - not with the intention of demeaning or degrading white women with black men. They think all those cheating scenarios are intended to degrade or debase the subject, but they fail to recognize that there's a ton of cheating scenarios in vanilla porn also. It's one of the most popular themes going. Taboo is hot. So it goes both ways. I think there are some fair arguments to be made about some porn being demeaning, if someone really has their panties in a bunch over porn themes. I think they would largely be missing the point though. Even the most ostensibly hateful IR-porn I've seen which I doesn't appeal to me in the least, e.g. that one site that had white guys in blackface with fake afros as they "abused" black females, I think must be catering to some things other than hate of someone else. I think it caters to self-hate. The question is, is that any better? I know a lot of other black guys who really got into Ghettogaggers for a while. They liked seeing black females gangbanged by white guys in confederate T-shirts. That's another one that really doesn't appeal to me at all. So yeah some of this IR stuff is degrading/demeaning, but nowadays I think the vast majority of IR is pretty ironically vanilla. We seem to be past the days of Jake Steed's "Little White Chicks, Big Black Monsters Dicks" and the "My Daughter's Fuckin a N-gger" - which is actually unfortunate because it was quite popular with white and black audiences. But with social media, we have seen a rise of SJW hysteria. If someone is upset about anything, they can basically go right to the source and easily manipulate an angry mob to descend on it with pitchforks and torches. Social media is truly a 2 edged sword. It can get really ugly and intolerant. Even people who aren't personally that seriously offended or outraged by something might make a snarky quip of criticism, then followers retweet and it just snowballs into an avalanche of hatred coming from people who never had the least interest in said something. On the surface it's not hard to see why some people are really offended by that too. I think that's where you do get into deliberately degrading content, but the fact of the matter is some people, even the parties which are ostensibly being degraded, do enjoy it. And I am inclined to think the people who genuinely appreciate these taboo things greatly outnumber those who are seriously impinged by them, but are reluctant to say so because of the angry mob - which tends to be at least half composed of people who are just grandstanding sanctimoniously or virtue signaling for brownie points. Ultimately I am of a live and let live attitude. As long as it isn't imposing on anyone and it's legal, I lean very libertarian on porn themes. Remember, the easily offended are easily manipulated. Edited by - Melvyn on 10/9/2016 11:53:39 AM [Link]
Dragon Sign Deactivated User 3381 Posts 12/13	Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 11:42AM I thought Cukold or what you call it was to be put in the funny-how-it-goes-segment, filled with laugable tendencies and so, kinda half freakshows, half funny Reality-TV, where some sad clowns may fit in perfectly, while IR was more of some serious deal where you have to take a personal stand and just go with the flow or not go there at all. If this deal doesn't work out right, and you won't go there at all, I believe racism is what will hit a nerve somehow for those that feel they have gone wrong and dislike it with a bad vibe in their system. If you're not out to get just some kinda laugh, I'd stay away from Cukold. The only other reason I can think of is just to avoid bad vibes. Me I won't hit pornlandscape just to get a laughter, or some bad vibes, even though this forum may represent some exception from time time. So do U get bad vibes out of watching interracial porn could from now on be the test in which to find out where people stand regarding this very issue are you racist or not. The only provoking thing that has hit me and my nerves in a bad way when it comes to IR, is some lazy dudes that just seem to be tired of pussy so that with limp fat dicks not pumped up enough out they go on a daily mission that has to be a failure to watch - not because they're black, but because they gotta be shuffling them sleepy dickheads in by using their hands. That has about nothing to do with racism. It's probably more of a cholestrol thing, or maybe just too much smoking of dope or whatever. I have yet to buy Cukold porn. It's not been available a long time. It has to wait in the queue! But I'll check it out someday. I do believe I have an object from Quasar on some wishlist, BBC is his new thing, though he said on twitter this is a broad casting network from U.K. [Link]
Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12	Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 12:02PM Still, it must be conceded that making the case on behalf of white males as the victim here will be highly unlikely to resonate, despite the fact that it is true, from what's all out there, white guys are mostly the ones demeaned in IR porn. It remains an uphill battle to say something must change because it is offensive particularly to white men. lol It's considered a form of "punching up" if you subscribe to that. So OP's argument could have got a lot more traction if he was pleading the case that IR is offensive to blacks or at least white women as these rank mostly highly among demographics mostly patronized in politics. If it's bad for white men, it's considered punching up and fair play. If it's bad for pretty much any other group, it's considered "punching down" and shameful. While I still think the vast majority of IR porn these days is largely vanilla and tame, of the small share that is somewhat edgy or provocative, most of this small share is at the expense of white guys. So OP is not wrong about that. [Link]
Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12	Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 12:16PM misspornUSA wrote: 2bollocks wrote: ^^My own "idea" is based on the fact that I have seen tons of black members of porn message boards whining about girls not doing black guys in scenes and claim they're racists (these would be the type of people who would get off on seeing black guys pound white women while a white guy gets degraded). I have never once met a self hating white guy who gets off on this or even seen any online who are self hating 'cucks'. Click to expand I don't know why you've concluded that IR trolls would enjoy cuckolding scenes. Calling a performer "racist" for not shooting IR has nothing to do with enjoying cuckold scenes. You've seen a lot of celebration of cuckold fetish content among IR trolls? I have met (and know) cucks (including those who are specifically into IR cuckolding) and encountered them online. Do you have much experience with the kink/fetish/BDSM community? Edited by - misspornUSA on 10/8/2016 3:45:11 PM Click to expand 2Bollocks just go to twitter. There's tons of accounts of white guys who operate like BBC acolytes lol. They start whole groups that are dedicated to cuckolding and degrading their own white "inferior" male anatomy. Some of that itself could be trolling, but I think most of it is just dudes who are genuinely into that. Just ask Shane Diesel how many white male sub fans he has. Ask how many cuckolds out there want him to seed their wives. I bet he has hundreds if not thousands of "whiteboy" fans like that. They're definitely out there. It grosses me out too, all that talk about slurping the bull's loads out of creampied twats. I like seeing women nutted on and in, but not dudes licking that up! [Link]
Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12	Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 12:21PM Hardware wrote: Liberal I think you're reaching, zoroisficticious. If you see a bunch of BM/WF titles it is because there is a demand for the genre, not because producers are trying to ram some political agenda down your throat. Attempting the latter is a good way to lose money, and porn producers hate to lose money. As to the real world, confidence in yourself is what the majority of women will be attracted to, not the color of your skin, much less the size of your penis. So, even if producers had the nefarious goal in mind that you want to attribute to them it would be a waste of money. Did I mention that producers hate to lose money? PS - for future reference, the phrase is "deep seated", not "deep seeded". Click to expand I think it better to go easy on him. He was scarred by some hardcore cuckold porn during his formative pubescent years. Is it any wonder he thought it was "deep seeded"? [Link]
Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12	Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 12:41PM Goldstein wrote: I would suggest that it is cuckold porn that is degrading, not the race of the performers. And, I honestly can't figure out who it is that's supposed to be getting-off to racist cuckold porn in the first place Click to expand Blacked and Dogfart both have about 100k followers on Twitter. You could just take a cursory scroll through those lists. Because Dogfart really popularized the cuckold theme into such a mainstream IR staple, most people associate the term with their take on it - which is hardly the definitive one. And yet they seem to have re-defined the term cuckold to where now people assume it has something to do with IR, and specifically white guys with homo-tendencies. But people forgot cuckold by definition is just a husband whose wife is unfaithful. That's the simplest and most classical definition dating back centuries. So based on that truer definition, Blacked is just as dedicated to the theme. They simply have the good sense to remove the cuckold from the scene, so we don't have that unattractive, aged and doughy white cuck looming over the action and drooling. Nothing against those who are into Dogfart's more explicit and bizarre take on cuckolding. Nothing against those who are into the homosexual/bisexual tendencies. In fact, au contraire, I like the freaky stuff like that, I just really loathe the way Dogfart does it. It's so trashy and there's no suspension of disbelief. This is why Blacked really took over the whole scene and pretty much dominated IR; they actually invested into the production and enhanced the fantasy/escapism which viewers had always pined for. The changing of the guard was long overdue. However this upgrade in production quality seems to have come at the expense of the freaky and nasty. I think there still remains great untapped potential in combining the high quality production values with the really raunchy and raucous, in-your-face taboo shattering freakiness of Jakes Steed's wildly popular series and the old HushHush brand. [Link]
misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13	Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 12:46PM Melvyn wrote: They simply have the good sense to remove the cuckold from the scene, so we don't have that unattractive, aged and doughy white cuck looming over the action and drooling. Click to expand Edited by - misspornUSA on 10/9/2016 12:46:36 PM [Link]
Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07	Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 12:58PM Goldstein wrote: misspornUSA wrote: The intended audience for cuckold raceplay would seem to be white men who have that particular fetish. Click to expand Sorry, I just don't see that at all. Maybe it's for women who want to hurt and shame their husbands/boyfriends? Isn't the whole point of cuckold being the man being rendered impotent by the woman, that he'll tolerate anything she does to him to desperately "hang on" to her in some way? I just can't believe that there is a huge niche demand for it. Over the years, many of us put up with certain sex acts (i.e. tune them out) in order to enjoy performers we like and/or otherwise hot scenes. Click to expand I'm black and I watch/buy BM/WF cuckold scenes not because I'm into cuckolding but because I like certain female performers and like IR porn. When all is said and done it's just IR sex scenes. If I were to not watch cuckold movies based on the premise I'd miss out on lots of scenes from girls I like watching. And quite frankly, other than the sometimes annoying husband who gets too involved during the sex I actually enjoy the performances in lots of cuckold movies. For me it's not a big deal to fast forward or tune out the degrading stuff. I do the same with other types of theme porn I'm not that into. I don't really have strong feelings for it one way or the other. But...I could see where the cuckold theme could appeal to a black viewer. It could be some black viewers can take delight in the fantasy of taking a white guys pretty wife and banging him better than he could with his superior penis while he's powerless to stop him. If that viewer has a hang up against white guys for whatever reason I can see the appeal of cuckold porn. To a black viewer I could see them seeing cuckold as having power over white men. In the case of white people I believe that there are some who actually get off on being a cuckold but I'm guessing for most viewers Cuckold isn't a representation of white guys in general but of that particular white guy in the scene. They don't see themselves in that way but perhaps enjoy seeing that guy in the scene being degraded and laughed at. [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 1:07PM I'm with missporn - I always assumed these sites catered to white men. I don't find that confusing at all. In my mind, it makes perfect sense. I get it. [Link]
Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07	Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 1:26PM BlackSix wrote: The OP conflates white cuck porn and IR porn. They are not the same thing. White cuck porn viewers are mostly male subs/masochists. The genre is niche but those who like it are loyal and willing to pay for it hence why it gets produced. I think it was the producer for the Mr. POV site who said he shot cuck scenes becsuse they were so requested and sold very well. Clearly the fantasy appeals to white subs/masochists. Click to expand I think the OP knows that cuckold is a particular niche but probably views most IR porn through that same discolored lens. His take on other types of IR porn is that it all shows white women preferring black men over white guys and that's why he boycotts the women who do those scenes. He's bothered that a white girl would prefer a black male over a white male. In his mind this shouldn't be and is "punishing" the girls who do IR scenes by not watching them do anything else and/or is so turned off at the thought the fact that those girls did a black guy he refuses to watch them. I can understand a white person not wanting to watch IR. If you aren't black and the performer is a stand in for the viewer it makes sense that watching a black guy in that role might be odd. Or if you're a white guy and simply don't like watching black guys with white women. Nothing wrong with that. But when a person goes the extra mile and doesn't want to watch a pornstar at all because she's been with a black man and being bothered by it to this extent there's clearly something more to it. Just my opinion. I could be totally wrong. [Link]
Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07	Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 1:33PM Gore Gore Girl wrote: I'm with missporn - I always assumed these sites catered to white men. I don't find that confusing at all. In my mind, it makes perfect sense. I get it. Click to expand I think a big part of that audience is white men but I think for any porn niche to do that well it has to have appeal for different people for different reasons. I don't think there's a white guy who likes IR degradation audience big enough to sustain cuckold to this level of popularity. [Link]
Luke Lake Deactivated User 878 Posts 8/10	Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 1:38PM I'm odd with IR Porn. No problem with Black Men & White Women, But not turned on by Black Women & White Men. [Link]

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zoroisficticious
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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 1:21PM

The reasons I have for not liking it is that I think it's an attack on white men. In my opinion it's about degrading a white man and trying to create a stereotype that black men are better lovers and that white women don't find white men attractive. As a white male this is a major turn off for me and because of this I choose to boycott performers who do scenes with black men because I don't want to take the chance I could potentially be supporting someone who is racist against white men. I told my friends this and one of them was like "your racist!" even though I don't feel I've done anything racist. I just don't like the negative stereotypes that type of porn portrays and I feel the black male and white female performers have some deep seeded hatred towards white men if they are going to make that type of porn. In fact I feel like I'm standing up against racism. What is your opinions on this? I'm just curious and I'm not looking to start an argument just trying to see people's opinions on this.

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2bollocks
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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 1:29PM

lol the users here are overwhelmingly super liberal so I think that lets you know what they think of your opinions.

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zoroisficticious
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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 1:45PM

I'm liberal too what does voting democrat have to do with this? I think it's racist that in interracial porn they either make the white husband/boyfriend watch or say something disparaging against white men. Then I was told I'm racist by someone for complaining that was racist. I'm just looking for clairity here.

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Aya
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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 1:58PM

Well you are painting all IR porn with the same brush when much of it has nothing to do with white men at all. I mean if there's a scene that has nothing to do with race and just happens to be BM/WF, and you jump to the conclusion that it's about degrading white men, seems more like a personal issue. I can understand why people would call you racist for jumping to that conclusion.

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zoroisficticious
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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 2:10PM

Well the scenes I saw were cuckold scenes and a white women was making racist statements to the white man about penis size. The other ones were a white man being tied up forced to watch his wife get raped by a black man and she liked it and ended up leaving with the rapist. I saw this when I was 13 years old and ever since I can't look at interaccial.

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Mister Fahrenheit

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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 2:16PM

^ Well there is plenty of interracial made that doesn't feature cuckolding. In fact it is the majority. If a scenario turns you off that's fine. There's no rule that says everyone has to like every type of porn.

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zoroisficticious
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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 2:35PM

Yes but somehow not liking interracial =racist. But not liking gay porn never gets you accused of homophobia.

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Mister Fahrenheit

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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 2:40PM

^ Maybe in your circle of friends that's the case but many people on this forum, including myself, aren't into cuckolding scenes. When I've said that in the past no one has accused me of being racist. Perhaps it's like Aya said and your friends misunderstood you? If you were speaking only of cuckolding scenes, didn't make that clear, and they thought you were talking about all interracial scenes, I could see why they might be thrown by that.
Edit: And FYI, there's no need to quote an entire post if it's right above yours. You can just use a little up-arrow, like this: ^
Edited by - Mister Fahrenheit on 10/8/2016 2:44:13 PM

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Goldstein

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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 2:46PM

I would suggest that it is cuckold porn that is degrading, not the race of the performers.
And, I honestly can't figure out who it is that's supposed to be getting-off to racist cuckold porn in the first place

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Hardware

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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 2:47PM

Liberal
I think you're reaching, zoroisficticious. If you see a bunch of BM/WF titles it is because there is a demand for the genre, not because producers are trying to ram some political agenda down your throat. Attempting the latter is a good way to lose money, and porn producers hate to lose money.
As to the real world, confidence in yourself is what the majority of women will be attracted to, not the color of your skin, much less the size of your penis. So, even if producers had the nefarious goal in mind that you want to attribute to them it would be a waste of money. Did I mention that producers hate to lose money?
PS - for future reference, the phrase is "deep seated", not "deep seeded".

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misspornUSA
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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 2:59PM

My answer to your topic question is no.

It's called roleplay. It's about getting off consumers who find that particular kind of roleplay to be appealing.

Here is the description of a scene released today that also contains roleplay: "While Stepmom, Jelena Jensen is outside, enjoying the beautiful sunshine. Stepdaughter, Gina Valentina, stays in doors watching TV. While tending to a plant, Jelena is stung by a bee. As she rushes inside the house, trying to decide what to do about the pain, Gina decides to help her mommy, by trying out a technique she recently saw on TV. All she has to do is find out where mommy got stung and suck out the stinger. Jelena is a little apprehensive at first, however unable to handle the pain she lets her daughter suck it out. The stinger just happens to be, above her breast. Desperate times call for desperate measure and so, Gina sucks it out, while lingering a little too long on her mommy's gorgeous tits. She begins to suck on her hard nipples, which leads to a steamy mother/daughter lesbian sex scene. You have to see, to believe!"
What are your thoughts on this scene? What do you think its purpose is? Does it say anything to you about the values of the performers who appeared in it? Is it promoting anything?

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misspornUSA
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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 3:01PM

The intended audience for cuckold raceplay would seem to be white men who have that particular fetish.

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misspornUSA
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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 3:04PM

The OP wrote: "I choose to boycott performers who do scenes with black men because I don't want to take the chance I could potentially be supporting someone who is racist against white men. I told my friends this and one of them was like 'your racist!'"
To me it sounds like his friends called him racist for his boycott of performers and not for disliking scenes.

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2bollocks
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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 3:08PM

You're only a new age liberal if you have a problem with every type of racism except for racism against whites.
Edited by - 2bollocks on 10/8/2016 3:19:50 PM

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2bollocks
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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 3:10PM

Or racist black people who get off on the degradation of their 'oppressors'.
Edited by - 2bollocks on 10/8/2016 3:12:12 PM

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Mermaidprince
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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 3:12PM

No it not racist not to like interrecial.
You don't like it that it.
I didn't feel about porn movies that black man are better.
In real life, most women are not attracted to black man.
Most of them are not very clean person and still don't shave which it's a turn off for women.
Most porn is creepy and bad.
Same for most businesses and people.
They are so much violence in society and it pass.
Of course someone going to tell you that you're racist.
That how you create racist, talk about it, it's the perfect way to make believe people it's still exist.

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Goldstein

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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 3:18PM

Sorry, I just don't see that at all.
Maybe it's for women who want to hurt and shame their husbands/boyfriends?
Isn't the whole point of cuckold being the man being rendered impotent by the woman, that he'll tolerate anything she does to him to desperately "hang on" to her in some way?
I just can't believe that there is a huge niche demand for it.
Over the years, many of us put up with certain sex acts (i.e. tune them out) in order to enjoy performers we like and/or otherwise hot scenes.
If this was such a hot niche market, wouldn't there be site-after-site of Black male/White female/White cuckold husband porn?
Sean Michaels had a line...
Scenes turn-up here and there...
I'd love to know what the actual Internet searches and sales info are for the niche before I accept any claims of huge market demand.
Edited by - Goldstein on 10/8/2016 3:20:18 PM

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misspornUSA
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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 3:22PM

I'm only speaking about the intended audience. I haven't read or heard anything indicating that the intended audience is black men. Also notable that the proof is often in the scene itself, since in many such scenes the woman will specifically, directly, address the white male viewer.

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misspornUSA
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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 3:27PM

^^I didn't say anything about there being "a huge niche demand" for IR cuckolding scenes, nor did I claim that there is a "huge market demand" for those scenes. I have no idea about any of that. I do have an idea about who these scenes are aimed at, and like I said in my most recent comment, the proof is often in the scene itself when the performer addresses the audience.

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2bollocks
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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 3:32PM

^^My own "idea" is based on the fact that I have seen tons of black members of porn message boards whining about girls not doing black guys in scenes and claim they're racists(these would be the type of people who would get off on seeing black guys pound white women while a white guy gets degraded). I have never once met a self hating white guy who gets off on this or even seen any online who are self hating 'cucks'.

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misspornUSA
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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 3:42PM

I don't know why you've concluded that IR trolls would enjoy cuckolding scenes. Calling a performer "racist" for not shooting IR has nothing to do with enjoying cuckold scenes. You've seen a lot of celebration of cuckold fetish content among IR trolls?
I have met (and know) cucks (including those who are specifically into IR cuckolding) and encountered them online. Do you have much experience with the kink/fetish/BDSM community?
Edited by - misspornUSA on 10/8/2016 3:45:11 PM

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killbillvol69

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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 3:44PM

To the OP: given that pretty much every single porn girl (white, black or otherwise) does more porn scenes with white men than they do with black men, I think it's pretty safe to say that they don't have anything against white men.
So you can say that you boycott them, but don't say that it's because you're worried that they might be racist against white men. It simply isn't true.
On the other hand, there have been documented cases of porn women who are racist against black men (most of whom don't work with black men, but a few who do). Do you boycott their scenes?
As mentioned by misspornusa, the intended audience for IR cuckold porn, and in fact most IR porn in general, is white men first, and everyone else after that. It may seem strange, but it's true. The white male who is "into" interracial porn (as in, he specifically seeks it out because it is a black man fucking a white woman) is usually into the idea that the woman is being 'naughtier than unsual' because not only is she having sex, but she is having sex with a black man. That, or he sees the black man as an oversexed, animalistic being, and the idea of seeing one of his white women with the oversexed beast is a turn-on.
People who run interracial porn sites with heavy racial themes have attested here at ADT that not only is the majority of their audience white men, but that it's common for their audience to be openly racist white men.
I guess what I'm saying is, I think you have it backwards. Interracial porn is far more likely to be racist against black people than white people.
If you boycott women who work with black men, then perhaps you might say you have a reason for doing so because you don't want them to be doing scenes that are racist against black people. But then what do you make of porn performers who refuse to work with black men? Would they be more racist, or less racist?
It seems to me that you'd have to boycott all white women then.
Edited by - killbillvol69 on 10/8/2016 3:46:33 PM

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2bollocks
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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 3:50PM

^Lets keep in mind that black people make up 13% of the population while whites are the vast majority, so obviously white males would be the main buyers of most porn genres. If we keep correct ratio's and percentages in mind for buyers of each genre based on race then we'll be able to make this clear.

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mbc76
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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 4:03PM

Is it racist not to like interracial porn?
Yes, but only if you're a white American male in 2016.

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chessmaster
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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 4:52PM

"Is it racist to not like interracial porn?"
No.
Your reasoning for boycotting white female performers who do ir is odd. There's no way every white woman that fucks black dudes on camera(even the ones that do the cuck thing which you associate with all interracial porn) is racist against white men. I suppose a very small percentage(1%) of them could be racist against whites but certainly not all of them. Because this should be obvious, I take your boycott as a translation for: "this white girl fucks niggers on camera so I'm boycotting her." am I right or wrong?
On the topic of the cuckold niche, first of all, no, black guys don't watch cuckold porn for the degradation of our "oppressors". That might be the dumbest shit I've ever heard. For one thing that cuck shit is a boner killer unless you're into that. I'm not sure the intended audience is even a broad range of white males. Its most likely aimed at a small portion of white men into the cuck fetish specifically. I don't think there is a HUGE market for it at all.
One last thing. Some of you guys have serious insecurities.
Edited by - Chessmaster on 10/8/2016 4:55:01 PM

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Gore Gore Girl

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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 5:17PM

Often for white male sexual pleasure. Maybe you're not exploring the possibilities of kink to their fullest extent.

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balbars
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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 5:56PM

zoroisficticious wrote:
The reasons I have for not liking it is that I think it's an attack on white men. In my opinion it's about degrading a white man and trying to create a stereotype that black men are better lovers and that white women don't find white men attractive. As a white male this is a major turn off for me and because of this I choose to boycott performers who do scenes with black men because I don't want to take the chance I could potentially be supporting someone who is racist against white men. I told my friends this and one of them was like "your racist!" even though I don't feel I've done anything racist. I just don't like the negative stereotypes that type of porn portrays and I feel the black male and white female performers have some deep seeded hatred towards white men if they are going to make that type of porn. In fact I feel like I'm standing up against racism. What is your opinions on this? I'm just curious and I'm not looking to start an argument just trying to see people's opinions on this.
Click to expand

The excuses posted are, if we turn the argument and put a white performer fucking a black woman, we could start a whole not fair discussion about something that doesn't mean racism at all. We all get it, you do not like it, solution is quite simple, do not watch it, there are plenty sex option in the video market to satisfy anyone whitout complains.

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samueljr
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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 7:15PM

Is it racist not to like interracial porn?
No.
But when you boycott performers because they shoot with black men, sounds like prejudiced. Remember their job is fuck and suck so is normal some performers shoot interracial, anal, dp, gangbang...
"But then what do you make of porn performers who refuse to work with black men? Would they be more racist, or less racist?"
I don't think a performer is racist bc she refuse shoot with black male. She decides if she wants IR, anal, DP...
It's not an obligation shoot interracial scenes to be a pornstar. Some performers called racists by haters(specially on twitter) already shot lesbian scenes with black females.
There are some performers doing IR but their husbands/boyfriends are white guys. Type of racism? Of course not!
Some performers retire after shooting IR scenes. Type of racism? Of course not! But I'm curious about it.

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SP_Love
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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 8:50PM

Right!?
Nobody believes that an entire ethnic group possess characteristics specific to that group so as to distinguish it as inferior. Racism is such made up hogwash!

Fascinating.
Most black men have terrible grooming habits, completely ignore their personal hygiene and women find them to be repulsive?
I'm always learning something new on this website.

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Flash

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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 8:58PM

MOD:
The racism in this thread needs to stop. If you are not sure of this warning applies to you, it probably does.

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A_Fan
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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 9:57PM

Your original post didn't indicate it was cuckhold scenes you have seen. Those types of scenes are often racist as the "unworthy white husband" needs a big dicked black man to "satisfy his wife". If that puts you off, that is not racist in itself, it just puts you off.
Many IR scenarios get racist like the cuckhold ones; however, many are just pure gonzo sex and it is up to the viewer to come up with their own conclusion. A racist viewer may dream that it is a slave fucking his master's wife or daughter or something (which is racist).
Whether you are racist or not, only you can determine that. Someone who could say "my favorite performer did IR and now I won't watch her" is likely racist.
You see what I mean?

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SkyHigh
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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 11:22PM

You realize that the people buying most of that cuck porn aren't black men, right? I would suggest that you just stay away from Dogfart productions.

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2bollocks
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Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 12:40AM

^Again, looking at the pure quantity of who the buyers are is not the right answer on wether black or white guys watch it more in general. There's nearly 5 times as many whites in the US as there are blacks.
Besides I still have yet to see evidence that this is mostly a fetish for white dudes.
Edited by - 2bollocks on 10/9/2016 12:53:08 AM

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Xhakorudan
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Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 1:47AM

It seems like you have a bigger problem with cuckold porn than IR porn. HOwever, cuckold porn is meant to demean the other. I am not sure how it really is "degrading" to men of a certain race. There ARE other categories and types of porn. If you want white on white fucking only, then watch it.

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A-ten
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Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 2:27AM

Cukold scenes based on race are racist. Same as scenes with white dudes degrading some black woman in a racist fashion.
I don't watch any scenes involving a racist element. I don't enjoy them.

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ErectionAddiction
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Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 4:17AM

I really love Interracial porn but porn is a very selective personal thing Cuckfold porn will only be directed towards a certain section of the Interrcial viewers and will admit It it not for everyone. If you find it a turn off then that is your personal choice and In no way racist or anything else

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BlackSix

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Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 5:53AM

The OP conflates white cuck porn and IR porn. They are not the same thing. White cuck porn viewers are mostly male subs/masochists. The genre is niche but those who like it are loyal and willing to pay for it hence why it gets produced. I think it was the producer for the Mr. POV site who said he shot cuck scenes becsuse they were so requested and sold very well. Clearly the fantasy appeals to white subs/masochists.

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chessmaster
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Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 5:55AM

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Goldstein

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Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 11:00AM

The OP conflates white cuck porn and IR porn. They are not the same thing.
You would think this should be obvious, but the IR crowd is a tough mistress

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Melvyn
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Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 11:40AM

I'm a major proponent of IR not just in porn but in IRL too. However I hardly think it makes anyone racist if they don't like it. Someone who dislikes IR could be racist, and indeed I've seen many anti-IR comments all over social media which are really blatantly racist and they make no secret of it, but I am not one to assume the worst about someone first. I give most the benefit of the doubt.
A few white liberals and blacks don't like IR porn either because they think it is stigmatizing, failing to realize much of it is deliberately provocative because that makes it hot - not with the intention of demeaning or degrading white women with black men. They think all those cheating scenarios are intended to degrade or debase the subject, but they fail to recognize that there's a ton of cheating scenarios in vanilla porn also. It's one of the most popular themes going. Taboo is hot.
So it goes both ways. I think there are some fair arguments to be made about some porn being demeaning, if someone really has their panties in a bunch over porn themes. I think they would largely be missing the point though. Even the most ostensibly hateful IR-porn I've seen which I doesn't appeal to me in the least, e.g. that one site that had white guys in blackface with fake afros as they "abused" black females, I think must be catering to some things other than hate of someone else. I think it caters to self-hate. The question is, is that any better?
I know a lot of other black guys who really got into Ghettogaggers for a while. They liked seeing black females gangbanged by white guys in confederate T-shirts. That's another one that really doesn't appeal to me at all. So yeah some of this IR stuff is degrading/demeaning, but nowadays I think the vast majority of IR is pretty ironically vanilla. We seem to be past the days of Jake Steed's "Little White Chicks, Big Black Monsters Dicks" and the "My Daughter's Fuckin a N-gger" - which is actually unfortunate because it was quite popular with white and black audiences. But with social media, we have seen a rise of SJW hysteria. If someone is upset about anything, they can basically go right to the source and easily manipulate an angry mob to descend on it with pitchforks and torches. Social media is truly a 2 edged sword. It can get really ugly and intolerant. Even people who aren't personally that seriously offended or outraged by something might make a snarky quip of criticism, then followers retweet and it just snowballs into an avalanche of hatred coming from people who never had the least interest in said something.
On the surface it's not hard to see why some people are really offended by that too. I think that's where you do get into deliberately degrading content, but the fact of the matter is some people, even the parties which are ostensibly being degraded, do enjoy it. And I am inclined to think the people who genuinely appreciate these taboo things greatly outnumber those who are seriously impinged by them, but are reluctant to say so because of the angry mob - which tends to be at least half composed of people who are just grandstanding sanctimoniously or virtue signaling for brownie points.
Ultimately I am of a live and let live attitude. As long as it isn't imposing on anyone and it's legal, I lean very libertarian on porn themes.
Remember, the easily offended are easily manipulated.
Edited by - Melvyn on 10/9/2016 11:53:39 AM

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Dragon Sign
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Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 11:42AM

I thought Cukold or what you call it was to be put in the funny-how-it-goes-segment, filled with laugable tendencies and so, kinda half freakshows, half funny Reality-TV, where some sad clowns may fit in perfectly, while IR was more of some serious deal where you have to take a personal stand and just go with the flow or not go there at all. If this deal doesn't work out right, and you won't go there at all, I believe racism is what will hit a nerve somehow for those that feel they have gone wrong and dislike it with a bad vibe in their system.
If you're not out to get just some kinda laugh, I'd stay away from Cukold. The only other reason I can think of is just to avoid bad vibes. Me I won't hit pornlandscape just to get a laughter, or some bad vibes, even though this forum may represent some exception from time time. So do U get bad vibes out of watching interracial porn could from now on be the test in which to find out where people stand regarding this very issue are you racist or not. The only provoking thing that has hit me and my nerves in a bad way when it comes to IR, is some lazy dudes that just seem to be tired of pussy so that with limp fat dicks not pumped up enough out they go on a daily mission that has to be a failure to watch - not because they're black, but because they gotta be shuffling them sleepy dickheads in by using their hands. That has about nothing to do with racism. It's probably more of a cholestrol thing, or maybe just too much smoking of dope or whatever.
I have yet to buy Cukold porn. It's not been available a long time. It has to wait in the queue! But I'll check it out someday. I do believe I have an object from Quasar on some wishlist, BBC is his new thing, though he said on twitter this is a broad casting network from U.K.

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Melvyn
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Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 12:02PM

Still, it must be conceded that making the case on behalf of white males as the victim here will be highly unlikely to resonate, despite the fact that it is true, from what's all out there, white guys are mostly the ones demeaned in IR porn. It remains an uphill battle to say something must change because it is offensive particularly to white men. lol
It's considered a form of "punching up" if you subscribe to that. So OP's argument could have got a lot more traction if he was pleading the case that IR is offensive to blacks or at least white women as these rank mostly highly among demographics mostly patronized in politics. If it's bad for white men, it's considered punching up and fair play. If it's bad for pretty much any other group, it's considered "punching down" and shameful.
While I still think the vast majority of IR porn these days is largely vanilla and tame, of the small share that is somewhat edgy or provocative, most of this small share is at the expense of white guys. So OP is not wrong about that.

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Melvyn
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Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 12:16PM

misspornUSA wrote:
2bollocks wrote:
^^My own "idea" is based on the fact that I have seen tons of black members of porn message boards whining about girls not doing black guys in scenes and claim they're racists (these would be the type of people who would get off on seeing black guys pound white women while a white guy gets degraded). I have never once met a self hating white guy who gets off on this or even seen any online who are self hating 'cucks'.
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I don't know why you've concluded that IR trolls would enjoy cuckolding scenes. Calling a performer "racist" for not shooting IR has nothing to do with enjoying cuckold scenes. You've seen a lot of celebration of cuckold fetish content among IR trolls?
I have met (and know) cucks (including those who are specifically into IR cuckolding) and encountered them online. Do you have much experience with the kink/fetish/BDSM community?
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2Bollocks just go to twitter. There's tons of accounts of white guys who operate like BBC acolytes lol. They start whole groups that are dedicated to cuckolding and degrading their own white "inferior" male anatomy.
Some of that itself could be trolling, but I think most of it is just dudes who are genuinely into that. Just ask Shane Diesel how many white male sub fans he has. Ask how many cuckolds out there want him to seed their wives. I bet he has hundreds if not thousands of "whiteboy" fans like that.
They're definitely out there. It grosses me out too, all that talk about slurping the bull's loads out of creampied twats. I like seeing women nutted on and in, but not dudes licking that up!

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Melvyn
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Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 12:21PM

I think it better to go easy on him. He was scarred by some hardcore cuckold porn during his formative pubescent years. Is it any wonder he thought it was "deep seeded"?

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Melvyn
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Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 12:41PM

Blacked and Dogfart both have about 100k followers on Twitter. You could just take a cursory scroll through those lists.
Because Dogfart really popularized the cuckold theme into such a mainstream IR staple, most people associate the term with their take on it - which is hardly the definitive one. And yet they seem to have re-defined the term cuckold to where now people assume it has something to do with IR, and specifically white guys with homo-tendencies.
But people forgot cuckold by definition is just a husband whose wife is unfaithful. That's the simplest and most classical definition dating back centuries.
So based on that truer definition, Blacked is just as dedicated to the theme. They simply have the good sense to remove the cuckold from the scene, so we don't have that unattractive, aged and doughy white cuck looming over the action and drooling.
Nothing against those who are into Dogfart's more explicit and bizarre take on cuckolding. Nothing against those who are into the homosexual/bisexual tendencies. In fact, au contraire, I like the freaky stuff like that, I just really loathe the way Dogfart does it. It's so trashy and there's no suspension of disbelief. This is why Blacked really took over the whole scene and pretty much dominated IR; they actually invested into the production and enhanced the fantasy/escapism which viewers had always pined for. The changing of the guard was long overdue.
However this upgrade in production quality seems to have come at the expense of the freaky and nasty. I think there still remains great untapped potential in combining the high quality production values with the really raunchy and raucous, in-your-face taboo shattering freakiness of Jakes Steed's wildly popular series and the old HushHush brand.

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misspornUSA
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Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 12:46PM

Edited by - misspornUSA on 10/9/2016 12:46:36 PM

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Draxxx
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Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 12:58PM

I'm black and I watch/buy BM/WF cuckold scenes not because I'm into cuckolding but because I like certain female performers and like IR porn. When all is said and done it's just IR sex scenes. If I were to not watch cuckold movies based on the premise I'd miss out on lots of scenes from girls I like watching. And quite frankly, other than the sometimes annoying husband who gets too involved during the sex I actually enjoy the performances in lots of cuckold movies. For me it's not a big deal to fast forward or tune out the degrading stuff. I do the same with other types of theme porn I'm not that into. I don't really have strong feelings for it one way or the other.
But...I could see where the cuckold theme could appeal to a black viewer. It could be some black viewers can take delight in the fantasy of taking a white guys pretty wife and banging him better than he could with his superior penis while he's powerless to stop him. If that viewer has a hang up against white guys for whatever reason I can see the appeal of cuckold porn. To a black viewer I could see them seeing cuckold as having power over white men.
In the case of white people I believe that there are some who actually get off on being a cuckold but I'm guessing for most viewers Cuckold isn't a representation of white guys in general but of that particular white guy in the scene. They don't see themselves in that way but perhaps enjoy seeing that guy in the scene being degraded and laughed at.

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Gore Gore Girl

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Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 1:07PM

I'm with missporn - I always assumed these sites catered to white men. I don't find that confusing at all. In my mind, it makes perfect sense. I get it.

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Draxxx
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Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 1:26PM

I think the OP knows that cuckold is a particular niche but probably views most IR porn through that same discolored lens. His take on other types of IR porn is that it all shows white women preferring black men over white guys and that's why he boycotts the women who do those scenes. He's bothered that a white girl would prefer a black male over a white male. In his mind this shouldn't be and is "punishing" the girls who do IR scenes by not watching them do anything else and/or is so turned off at the thought the fact that those girls did a black guy he refuses to watch them. I can understand a white person not wanting to watch IR. If you aren't black and the performer is a stand in for the viewer it makes sense that watching a black guy in that role might be odd. Or if you're a white guy and simply don't like watching black guys with white women. Nothing wrong with that. But when a person goes the extra mile and doesn't want to watch a pornstar at all because she's been with a black man and being bothered by it to this extent there's clearly something more to it.
Just my opinion. I could be totally wrong.

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Draxxx
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Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 1:33PM

I think a big part of that audience is white men but I think for any porn niche to do that well it has to have appeal for different people for different reasons. I don't think there's a white guy who likes IR degradation audience big enough to sustain cuckold to this level of popularity.

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Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 1:38PM

I'm odd with IR Porn. No problem with Black Men & White Women, But not turned on by Black Women & White Men.

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