Are there any pictures of this guy anywhere I want to know what he looks like
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realtip Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 10 2006 : 9:10PM
I'm sure somebody has taken a picture of this guy and posted it somewhere on the World Wide Web. You'll probably be able to find it after doing some searching around. If I actually cared enough about it, I would do a search for it myself. But I ain't particularly all that interested.
If he is in that picture, I would think that he's most likely the dude wearing the flannel shirt and cowboy hat. From what I have seen of him in his scenes, the guy really has a gut on him, and he does seem to have an affinity for plaid flannel as well. If I had to choose which one of those guys is him, I would definitely say that guy.
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nietzsche Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 10 2006 : 10:13PM
There is one picture of Khan on the internet that I know of and I have it and I'm not giving it to anybody.
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realtip Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 10 2006 : 10:34PM
^^^So you and this picture are really no different than me and the last slice of pizza?
Maybe not to YOU but there are certain news outlets that realy want this info...and his photo....seems kind of a poetic justice to me in a way...he likes to show us the real girls he says...
wonder how he'd feel when the real world sees him....the handful of people in porn are ho hum about it His brother wouldn't be I'd bet
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Posted - Sep 11 2006 : 8:11AM
MikeSouth wrote
Seems to me that if they really wanted it, they could easily have gotten it and shared it by now. I don't think they find it to be that big of a deal either. This is the American news media we're talking about. Believe you me, any piece of inoformation they're interested in broadcasting, they can get it in the blink of an eye, one way or another. It's only Khan Tusion for cying out loud, not the secret whereabouts of Osama bin Laden (which I believe are also known, but that's another discussion). It's probably just that these news outlets don't see the broad American public- much of which has probably never even heard of this guy- as having much interest in the true hidden identity of misogynist smut peddler, and I happen to agree with them. Who really cares? I'm sure anybody who really wants to know can find out.
I know it's a thread about Khan, ( but haven't we all been through this debate a number of times before?), anyway, I couldn't agreee more with realtip. When it comes to male/dom- female/sub scenes, if you get Brandon with a girl that he clicks with on that level, and there is a mutual click for her, he is "the best that's ever played the game". There is Brandon, and then there is everybody else. In a class by himself.
This is an entirely different vibe than what Khan sometimes does. I'm talking about scenes where the girl is authentically turned on by sexual submission and the rough stuff is entirely consensual, in fact, orgasmic, for her.
That's interesting...His [invalid URL removed]IMDB and [invalid URL removed]Wikipedia pages seem to have been sanitized. There's no longer any mention of his real name or his brother's name on either one.
Well, at least they can't take away [invalid URL removed]our [invalid URL removed]memories.
I don't know ... Tera's very much a public figure, and the info on Jasmine was all but useless to anyone ... I'm impressed anyone at Wiki cares enough to compile so much data ...
There are some who actually like him personally. I haven't run across anyone who knows him who dislikes him (some dislike his stuff thinking it's bad for porn but that's a different issue).
There are girls such as Taryn Thomas who regretted their scene with him. But Taryn said afterwards that Khan wasn't monster, and instead the problem was that she should never have attempted that kind of scene in the first place (this was Taryn's pre-Shylock days).
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And that's part of the problem. He pays very well and unfortunately if you offer that much a lot of the girls have a "Yes!" reflex because of the money. He tries to weed out the girls who really aren't up to it, but sometimes that doesn't work. They talk about what's going to happen in the shoot, they see footage from earlier shoots, yet when asked if they're up to it their brain just short-circuits to Yes! because of the $$$
Well, then maybe it's time to check out something else.
The basic rule I use on another porn site is generally no real names or personally identifiable information, unless the victim outs themselves. Just because you can get that info elsewhere doesn't mean I want it "here" - I don't want to be a stalker magnet.
Jenna Jameson is easy because she puts her real name on her website. Jill Kelly OK because she deliberately chose to be a corporate officer in a publicly-traded company (JKP) which meant she's going to be in a lot of SEC filings. Then there are cases like Hailey Paige whose affidavit against Martin del Toro lists her real name.
And it's not just courtesy: stalkers are a real threat and not just from outside. Remember the Allie Ray threats against Gen Padova? Just reading this thread I see several wannabe stalkers...
(as for Khan not showing his face ... come on, do we really need to see more guy faces in porn? It's about the girls and the less guys-shots the better!)
I have to agree with Realtip here. We've got Greg dark directing Britney Spears videos (before she was considered a superslut and before people stopped giving a shit about her). GWB has coke charges in his past and noone gives a shit. So some radio personality's brother is a porn guy? ref: Who gives a shit?
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Posted - Sep 11 2006 : 7:30PM
I see him every day.
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realtip Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 11 2006 : 9:00PM
jake malone wrote
Definitely check it out. I trust you won't be disappointed. Had I known this scene was in the movie, I'd have picked it up a long time ago.
jrv wrote
I was thinking the same thing, especially when people started talking about how financially well-off he is. If he has as much money as folks on here say he does, I'm sure he can afford to not only finance his own productions (which really don't look like he goes through alot of expense to do), but also to pay girls a decent enough amount to agree to do degrading things like gets pissed on or say Hello to their parents while taking a dick up their ass. I can't imagine that there's any other way alot of girls would agree to this if they weren't tempted by a nice sum of money, and it sounds like he can probably afford it.
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Posted - Sep 13 2006 : 1:31AM
Must be what keeps Khan in business... guys vicariously living out their misogynistic fantasies through his work.
I'm as kinky as the next guy, but I draw the line at what "Meatholes" considers fourplay.... :p
(exactly who came up the the concept that stepping on the vagina with dirty ass kicks is anything in the ballpark of erotic???)
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Posted - Sep 13 2006 : 2:01AM
absynth wrote
That's the whole idea. People keep mistaking this stuff for being sexual. It's not, and it isn't meant to be erotic. It's meant to be degradation, not eroticism, and I think that there can be a turn-on in either one.
He is a creation, just like Santa Clause, Jesus Christ, The Easter Bunny, and Pee-Wee Herman.
As with the others, people will look to him for as long as they need him, and when they find independence (or the next thing to pledge eternal allegience to) they will put him away, Just as Pooh was finally put away by Christopher Robin.
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realtip Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 13 2006 : 4:27PM
lessthanzero wrote
This same argument is easily made for pornography altogether. I mean, if we want to be truthful about it, none of it is "real." But people are going to believe (or not believe) whatever they choose, regardless of how foolish that belief (or disbelief) is.
I've had that happen to me in the past as well, on this forum as well as others. It sucks mightily but just seems to be one of those internet things. The only way to save them I think is to use a text editor, etc and save it there before you post...
In the director not performing but showing there face there is Chi Chi Larue but well, he do shoot vanilla porn if we can say.
As for Khan well, i understand he may not want to show himself much but bluring and putting black stripe over his face...lol
As for his work, i saw the Nicki Hunter scene and when shart crying and screaming i was like "ouch...i was kind of shock, stoped to masturbate and lost the bonner..." There rought sex and plain abuse...
Interestingly, I agree with the comment that Brandon is the best pure rough performer I've ever met. The Chloe scene was the first scene I ever shot intended for the Internet. It was funny because the cameraman flaked and Brandon was giving me pointers on white balancing and focusing. Khan Tusion wasn't even in the room during the scene.
I worked with Khan Tusion for over a year, especially in the beginning with Meatholes and consider him the most unique and raw pornographers out there. Almost to a tee, every girl was informed what they were going to do and were given code words to stop the action if it became too intense or otherwise. It's interesting to note that alot of the girls came back later and told me the experience was cathartic in a way.
It's none of my business to let anyone out there know who Khan is. I have been asked and refuse to divulge. He is a very private guy with a unique set of skills regarding porn. I frankly would rather watch a scene he directs than a scene directed by 99% of the pornographers out there. I truly wish I had some of his psychological skills during a scene but, alas, I do not.
Undoubtedly "what she is" is a woman who was sexually abused earlier in life. This comment of hers is as about as explicit a definition of the mental state of a sexually abused woman as it is possible to get.
It is the unfortunate reality that a huge percentage of the women who perform for us were abused and would not be in the sex industry has that not happened. Girls that were abused very typically act out what happened to them again and again.
It is a sad fact, and I haven't let it stop me from watching porn, but perhaps we owe it to them to at least feel guilty sometimes about getting off of them re enacting their traumas.
In my own case, although I know that just about all of the girls were abused, I only really get bothered when it is screamingly obvious in a scene how the girl is re enacting her trauma.
An example of this for me was in RLD's "Breakin' Em In 2" with a girl (I forget which one since I now skip the scene) who said she did not really like vaginal sex and preferred anal. Well, to my mind that just said that when she was abused it was anally. She was there to act it out, but the abuse had turned her against sex generally so she tolerated vaginal sex only so she could go get to the anal which was the reinactment she was there for.
I don't have a good answer about the morality of watching porn once you realize how much of it is the result of trauma. All I can say is that I try to avoid stuff like rough sex films which just seem to add to the trauma.
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Posted - Sep 14 2006 : 9:35PM
Or maybe she was just saying what the director had told her to say or what she thought the audience wanted to hear. You can't psychoanalyse anyone based on a porn scene for God's sake.
This is quite doubtable, because you have no proof. I don't see how your inference makes sense. Do you work with the abused? Do you have any connection to them whatsoever?
I do. And you're making things up.
How many people in the industry do you know? Furthermore, how many more do you know intimately enough so that they admit their abuse to you?
And as for girls specifically requesting anal? I haven't seen that film, and I'm not aware of the context, but have you ever heard of menstruation? Or anal orgasms? (my foot!)
Your logic lacks... logic...
As for your morality, well....
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Posted - Sep 15 2006 : 1:52AM
I have to change something I wrote earlier on this thread about not knowing of any non-performing directors who show themselves on camera. After watching Bitch Slapped, in which Martin Del Toro shows himself on camera during the BTS, he is now at least one non-performing director I know who will show himself on camera.
Chico Wang wrote
It was evident that this scene was not directed by Khan. I got the impression that Brandon had full directorial control over this particular scene. For one thing, it was immensely better than anything I've ever seen Khan direct- way out of his league. Additionally, the pleasant absence of Khan's annoying voice throughout the scene was a dead giveaway that he was nowhere around during the shooting of this scene. If he was, I'm sure we would have had to hear his voice, as we always do.
That really is interesting, and actually may say alot about why these girls agree to these types of scenes in the first place. It makes one wonder about the kinds of pent-up emotions these girls have that need to be released this way.
Why does this remind me of someone taking the Fifth Amendment in a court trial? Are people really this interested in this guy's identity? But then, given the comical measures he does take to conceal his identity on screen, it's obvious that he at least thinks it's of high importance, even if no one else does.
Learned Hand wrote
This is actually what made some parts of this scene so uneasy to watch. Many of her comments, outbursts, and reactions throughout the scene made it clear to just about anyone watching that this woman was dealing with some personal trauma. Either that, or she is just one hell of an actress.
I also agree that this is true. I recently saw a short documentary on TV entitled, Thinking XXX, which I'm sure alot of people in here have seen since alot of porno people were in on the project. In that piece, cult fim director John Waters makes the same comment about how most of these girls who get into porn were likely abused somehow during their lives, and that if most porno people did not have the outlet of working in porn, they'd probably end up flashing people on the streets. There is even a very poignant movie made about this called Things Behind the Sun. It is kind of a weird movie with an unusual plotline, but it has alot to do with this topic. I am tempted to give away the story, but I don't want to spoil it for anyone who may be interested in seeing it.
Khan is one director who is famous for having girls talk about past sexual traumas such as rape or childhood abuse. He is not the only one who does that now, as I've noticed other directors include such interviews in their movies as well. Sometimes I think the girls are just making this shit up because the director tells them to, but there are other times when it sounds so true that listening to it just weirds me out. It could be that some girls are just more convincing actresses than others, or that they're actually telling the truth about these events. Either way, I always try not to think too seriously about it in order to avoid it getting in the way of my porn-viewing enjoyment. Nonetheless, there is a certain segment of the porn-viewing demographic that gets off on knowing (whether it's true or fantasy) that these girls are only doing what they're doing as a result of having faced horrible sexual traumas in their lives. If not for this segment of guys, directors wouldn't feel the need to have girls give these types of accounts in their interviews.
My wife works with the abused. She has also worked with sex offenders.
Additionally I pay attention to the interviews of porn stars where they are often asked about early sexual encounters. All those girls that say they first started having sex at 14 (or earlier)? Those are not happy memories for those girls. I have also heard the reactions of the guys on tape when they hear the ages of first sex for these girls. Sometimes when a girl will say 15 or something like that they will laugh and say "that's late for porn."
I have also seen guys say things like "we aren't doing anything to these girls that their dads or uncles haven't already."
I am not trying to suggest that the guys are jerks for that reaction. They are merely observing the reality. I also think that off the cuff remarks like these from guys who are really around these girls all the time can give a lot of insight into the reality of the situation.
But look, I am not telling you to stop watching porn. I still watch it.
I don't think it is necessary to feel high minded in every single thing I do. I can acknowledge the pull and attraction of porn while still feeling bad for what happened in the early lives of most of the women who are performing for me. If you can't, fine you know, gloss over it.
Wow, that was a long quote. I tried to cut it down, but it was all relevant.
I also try to tune some of the interview out because thinking too much about it puts a damper on the stroking mood.
I used to like these interviews because I am always more excited when I can see more of the real girl behind the fantasy. In fact, I still do like them any time I am not hearing about how the girl first had sex when she was 12. It is just too bad that so often that is what comes up in the interview.
I think the whole "when did you first start having sex" question is mostly a fluke of history. Ed Powers was one of the first to have interviews of the girls in his scenes and it just happened that this was one of the questions that he asked. I think that most of the interviews in porn now are a result of copying this aspect of the Dirty Debs line.
I don't think that the average porn interviewer is trying to probe hurtful memories of the girls, I think it is just a case of interviewing being basically a hard job and the fact that there have come to be a stock set of questions to ask just as a result of repitition.
I don't doubt that Khan on the other hand noticed the same thing we did and decided that he *would* try to probe in a hurtful way. I don't want to tar Vince Voyeur or Randy West with the same brush though.
Speaking of Randy, one of his best questions was "What did you do before you got into porn?" This was a safe question in terms of trauma that often really enhanced the fantasy. Hearing about the girl working in the family sewing machine store is good fodder for the cute cashier fantasy.