Is Lexington Steele a SELLOUT? (page 5)

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Digital Devil Member 34 Posts 8/09	Posted - Sep 9 2009 : 2:43AM Royal Tee wrote: A quick question. If Lex is a sellout for hiring dodgers. What about when Alexis Texas or Nikki Benz does shoot an IR scene, are you going to watch? Because if you do, that makes you a sellout too. Click to expand Alexis and Nikki do absolutely nothing for me, but some performers like Sunny Lane, Karina Kay, Harmony Rose, etc, had some pretty good performances in some of their scenes. Call me a sellout, but I know good performances when I see them. People need to stop letting other people's preferences, prejudices, or hang-ups affect them. The truth is most of these performers don't even know you exist and can care even less about what you think. Edited by - digital devil on 9/9/2009 4:48:32 AM [Link]
RiveGauche1999 Member 472 Posts 1/05	Posted - Sep 9 2009 : 9:54AM MrMarcus wrote: ...are we making any progress with this? Have we come to a conclusion? Or are still working it out? I personally think we're still working it out...porn has issues, the people making it and the people watching it. But that's why we have forum's so we can say our piece and then get back to what really matters... Click to expand have you developed thick skin over the years?? As a person of color did you once care/speak out against this, or is it hard that you are a minority in a majority ruled business?? or were you always just in it for pussy and the $$ and fame and fuck the rest of the BS that may not affect you directly?? not trying to be smart/smug just want to know. [Link]
CHI - BEAR 85 Deactivated User 225 Posts 9/08	Posted - Sep 9 2009 : 10:26AM Royal Tee wrote: The Definitive IR thread took 6 months to reach 6 pages. This thread only took a month. What does that say to me? It says a lot of IR fans are spending way too much time arguing and worrying about starlets that don't and not enough time showing love to the ones that do. A quick question. If Lex is a sellout for hiring dodgers. What about when Alexis Texas or Nikki Benz does shoot an IR scene, are you going to watch? Because if you do, that makes you a sellout too. Click to expand RoyalTee, are you kidding me, what country are you living in? People talk about racisim in this country for years and it ain't going to stop, just because we got a black President. Google the word racisim, race or even Interracial and see how many web pages you'll find. This is why the problem racisim exist, we need to talk about it instead of sweeping it under the rug and pretend we are all free from it. Porn being a so called liberal type thing, it shouldn't matter what the color the dick is. But here in the so called great Amerikkka, it matters to some nonblack female porn stars. And you saying it doesn't matter, are you really kidding me? [Link]
BrazilianDude Deactivated User Minha Vaidade me deixou cansado 351 Posts 8/09	Posted - Sep 9 2009 : 10:54AM mharris127 wrote: Sheldon wrote: mharris127 wrote: I don't agree with you, Sheldon. Racism should not preclude someone from porn -- however lack of fans can and will. If you don't like people that don't do IR, don't buy their videos. Me, I am against the companies telling their contract stars that they cannot -- not the banning of racists. As the crux of my original statement a few pages back is, Lex has the right to hire anyone he wants and should not be held to answer if he changes his mind on this issue. Also, stars will fuck who they are comfortable with (as I said), racist or not (I believe most -- NOT ALL -- decide based on attractiveness to that person, not racism). If you force talent to fuck those that mortify them, the scene will not turn out, anyway! Click to expand I don't see how, on the one hand, you don't want to see performers who practice discrimination banned, but on the other hand, you want to see companies being banned from telling their contract stars whom to fuck on camera. Both practices have dire economic consequences, especially for a minority that has been historically discriminated against by the white majority, a minority that was brought over here, against its will, in slave ships. In a prior post, I said I was against forcing talent to do anything. Its the producers and companies who need to be told not to hire performers who are IR dodgers for racist reasons. Click to expand I just feel that the talent's opinion should be first and foremost as they are human and a company is not. I understand that the woman's role in this business is to have an orgasm, not puke -- that is why I support the talent's right to choose and not the company's. In a perfect world race would not be a factor, but it is and we have to accept that. I also do not advocate banning companies unless it is absolutely necessary, but a company should allow the talent reasonable latitude in who they want to fuck -- including IR if he/she wants. I also don't support forcing IR on talent, as I have said numerous times. I also don't understand why a company feels it is to their benefit to not allow white/black parings for sex scenes (whether I care personally or not). Click to expand good point but comming from someone who says girls don't want to do IR because blacks are ugly BUT ron jeremy is cute and sexy .... [Link]

Aplus Senior Member 1431 Posts 5/05	Posted - Sep 9 2009 : 1:43PM MrMarcus wrote: ...are we making any progress with this? Have we come to a conclusion? Or are still working it out? I personally think we're still working it out...porn has issues, the people making it and the people watching it. But that's why we have forum's so we can say our piece and then get back to what really matters... Click to expand I suppose any discussion is good in the long run, but true progress takes a lot of time. The direction is good from what I see, despite all the obstacles. I see many successes and much all-around progress despite a low economy. I mean I would prefer things were at least a little more widespread and not so segregated most of the time, but progress is progress. [Link]
MrMarcus Member Walk down and fuck them all. 181 Posts 7/08	Posted - Sep 9 2009 : 5:02PM RiveGauche1999 wrote: MrMarcus wrote: ...are we making any progress with this? Have we come to a conclusion? Or are still working it out? I personally think we're still working it out...porn has issues, the people making it and the people watching it. But that's why we have forum's so we can say our piece and then get back to what really matters... Click to expand have you developed thick skin over the years?? As a person of color did you once care/speak out against this, or is it hard that you are a minority in a majority ruled business?? or were you always just in it for pussy and the $$ and fame and fuck the rest of the BS that may not affect you directly?? not trying to be smart/smug just want to know. Click to expand If I was in it for the pussy, fame or the money I would've stopped already. Goal accomplished. But that's not the case. I am definitely a fan, that's why it's been difficult for me to just up and stop participating in porn...I like being in it. When it comes to the subject of interracial, I'm probably the most sensitive to the issue, because I like that too, but more so I get the "taboo" that comes with it. Over the years, I've realized it doesn't matter who does and who doesn't do it, it's a waste of breath trying to talk someone into doing it. These girls are guided by experience and fear of what they want to do next. We can bitch over the internet about who's a racist, but I can tell you from experience most racist don't even know that they are one. Besides I always thought it was a mind game people played with the girls, that there are people who force their own opinions and thoughts on someone who didn't know any better. I will get backlash, and b.s. for stating how I see it, but I've been in this bitch for 15 years and I've seen girls do the darnedest things. I want to see Alexis Texas do interracial too, but I don't think she hears or cares about the screaming mob outside her computer, but I will definitely go and watch a Julia Ann scene or a Lisa Ann scene and say yep that's why I'm a fan of porn. Because of what they do and not for what hasn't happened...yet. [Link]
mharris127 Senior Member 1844 Posts 8/09	Posted - Sep 9 2009 : 11:39PM MrMarcus wrote: . . . I will get backlash, and b.s. for stating how I see it, but I've been in this bitch for 15 years and I've seen girls do the darnedest things. I want to see Alexis Texas do interracial too, but I don't think she hears or cares about the screaming mob outside her computer, but I will definitely go and watch a Julia Ann scene or a Lisa Ann scene and say yep that's why I'm a fan of porn. Because of what they do and not for what hasn't happened...yet. Click to expand You are a lucky guy! If you haven't already, you will probably actually get to fuck Julia Ann and we won't. I am glad that you are actually a fan and not just doing it for the money. Believe it or not, that makes for a better scene -- as I have said, if the talent is actually having a good time the scene is much more enjoyable. [Link]
NerdGod Member Using a 2 inch cock like it was 12 480 Posts 7/06	Posted - Sep 10 2009 : 4:24PM Look seriously I dont watch IR movies because its more personal to me. My dick aint black. I cant get into a scene if i cant put myself into it. I have nothing against black men. But i wont by a Lexington Steele movie cause it doesnt fit my fantasy. With that being said maybe i'm not the only person out there who see's it that way. Lexington is making the most of what he has and I think hes totally correct. I also think that if you all feel so strongly about this issue you should boycotte the performer too. I really think you all should remeber that perception is 100% of what porn is and no one has even mentioned that little fact. I mean come on guys. Your dealing with a morality issue in porn?? lol kinda funny if you ask me. As far as my comment if we lived in a perfect world we wouldnt have a need for porn. well think about it. If the world was perfect you could see and do anyone or anything you wanted. you would be more secure with yourself and your partner/s. Having sex would be like the very first time but longer lol. But speaking as a sales clerk for a large business that sells dvds im telling you straight up. Black /IR movies at my store dont sell worth a damn.I have to down mark the price for that type of movie by $10 or more to get rid of it. I get complaints from my arcade customers about putting in IR movies and black movies.I think all of you should address this and then maybe you'll see some change. I mean its sometimes hard to sell companies like Devil's films or Killergram because they have black performers in some scenes. With the economy the way it is I think you're going too see companies using less black talent more and more and sticking with more white or Latin performers. Its about what sells and I really think its a larger issue outside porn thats the issue and the whole fanatasy thing. [Link]
BrazilianDude Deactivated User Minha Vaidade me deixou cansado 351 Posts 8/09	Posted - Sep 10 2009 : 9:45PM NerdGod wrote: Look seriously I dont watch IR movies because its more personal to me. My dick aint black. I cant get into a scene if i cant put myself into it. I have nothing against black men. But i wont by a Lexington Steele movie cause it doesnt fit my fantasy. With that being said maybe i'm not the only person out there who see's it that way. Lexington is making the most of what he has and I think hes totally correct. I also think that if you all feel so strongly about this issue you should boycotte the performer too. I really think you all should remeber that perception is 100% of what porn is and no one has even mentioned that little fact. I mean come on guys. Your dealing with a morality issue in porn?? lol kinda funny if you ask me. As far as my comment if we lived in a perfect world we wouldnt have a need for porn. well think about it. If the world was perfect you could see and do anyone or anything you wanted. you would be more secure with yourself and your partner/s. Having sex would be like the very first time but longer lol. But speaking as a sales clerk for a large business that sells dvds im telling you straight up. Black /IR movies at my store dont sell worth a damn.I have to down mark the price for that type of movie by $10 or more to get rid of it. I get complaints from my arcade customers about putting in IR movies and black movies.I think all of you should address this and then maybe you'll see some change. I mean its sometimes hard to sell companies like Devil's films or Killergram because they have black performers in some scenes. With the economy the way it is I think you're going too see companies using less black talent more and more and sticking with more white or Latin performers. Its about what sells and I really think its a larger issue outside porn thats the issue and the whole fanatasy thing. Click to expand you must be in country in europe or anywhere where the white population is extremly large, to say interracial doesn't sell is laughable lol, maybe at your store, cuz if interracial didn't sell i'm pretty sure you wouldn't see that much interracial material out there, let's face it most of the time they even pay girls extra just to do IR if they shell out the money it's because it's worth it, they're not dumb. now about seeing less and less black performers because of the economy, i think it's the opposite, look at sites like monsterofcock, it used to have no IR and now they're going strictly interracial, nothing can ever destroy interracial, there are just too many people out there wanting to see IR. Edited by - braziliandude on 9/10/2009 9:46:36 PM [Link]
RiveGauche1999 Member 472 Posts 1/05	Posted - Sep 10 2009 : 9:50PM MrMarcus wrote: RiveGauche1999 wrote: MrMarcus wrote: ...are we making any progress with this? Have we come to a conclusion? Or are still working it out? I personally think we're still working it out...porn has issues, the people making it and the people watching it. But that's why we have forum's so we can say our piece and then get back to what really matters... Click to expand have you developed thick skin over the years?? As a person of color did you once care/speak out against this, or is it hard that you are a minority in a majority ruled business?? or were you always just in it for pussy and the $$ and fame and fuck the rest of the BS that may not affect you directly?? not trying to be smart/smug just want to know. Click to expand If I was in it for the pussy, fame or the money I would've stopped already. Goal accomplished. But that's not the case. I am definitely a fan, that's why it's been difficult for me to just up and stop participating in porn...I like being in it. When it comes to the subject of interracial, I'm probably the most sensitive to the issue, because I like that too, but more so I get the "taboo" that comes with it. Over the years, I've realized it doesn't matter who does and who doesn't do it, it's a waste of breath trying to talk someone into doing it. These girls are guided by experience and fear of what they want to do next. We can bitch over the internet about who's a racist, but I can tell you from experience most racist don't even know that they are one. Besides I always thought it was a mind game people played with the girls, that there are people who force their own opinions and thoughts on someone who didn't know any better. I will get backlash, and b.s. for stating how I see it, but I've been in this bitch for 15 years and I've seen girls do the darnedest things. I want to see Alexis Texas do interracial too, but I don't think she hears or cares about the screaming mob outside her computer, but I will definitely go and watch a Julia Ann scene or a Lisa Ann scene and say yep that's why I'm a fan of porn. Because of what they do and not for what hasn't happened...yet. Click to expand Good points, thanks for replying, love your work, eps. the Anablolic stuff you did w/Vince V. & crew!! Glad you didn't get offended :-) [Link]
BrazilianDude Deactivated User Minha Vaidade me deixou cansado 351 Posts 8/09	Posted - Sep 10 2009 : 9:54PM just an example : you don't see much asian man/white girl interracial in the industry , WHY ?? WHY ?? because it doesn't sell, see how easy it is to tell when something doesn't sell ?? if you don't see much it's because it doesn't sell, if you see BM/WF interracial in just about any regular movie it's because it DOES sell. Edited by - braziliandude on 9/10/2009 9:59:40 PM [Link]
NerdGod Member Using a 2 inch cock like it was 12 480 Posts 7/06	Posted - Sep 11 2009 : 3:13PM Brazilliandude this countrys largest population is white people. the 2nd would be hispanic,3rd would be black. Im from new mexico where the black population is lower than the native population. my states ethnic diversity is very diffrent from most of the country like hispanics would be the largest ethinic community. Anyway you seriously got to add more reasons into the equation before just claiming its all racist and what not. I think all of it is preception and what the customer wants to see. you can not change the way people percieve others over night. The reason these certain performers do what they do is a personal choice that you may not like or respect but thats a personal freedom. The on ly way that will ever change is through time. People like Mr.Marcus and Lex are pioneers. They wont change the way everone looks or feels about it but its a step.But seriously the change your looking for is a greater change within this country and again it will take time. I mean name me 10 black supermodels.Name me 10 black coaches for the NFL and Baseball. I bet you could name me 10 black perfomers in Porn male and female.This is my point. As far as my sells are concern IR does sell better than black movies alone but my sells are not going to reflect the country as a whole. If I came across like that I'm sorry.What kind of experience do you have in porn?I ask only to see why you base your reasoning on what you said previously. [Link]
BrazilianDude Deactivated User Minha Vaidade me deixou cansado 351 Posts 8/09	Posted - Sep 11 2009 : 9:42PM NerdGod wrote: Brazilliandude this countrys largest population is white people. the 2nd would be hispanic,3rd would be black. Im from new mexico where the black population is lower than the native population. my states ethnic diversity is very diffrent from most of the country like hispanics would be the largest ethinic community. Anyway you seriously got to add more reasons into the equation before just claiming its all racist and what not. I think all of it is preception and what the customer wants to see. you can not change the way people percieve others over night. The reason these certain performers do what they do is a personal choice that you may not like or respect but thats a personal freedom. The on ly way that will ever change is through time. People like Mr.Marcus and Lex are pioneers. They wont change the way everone looks or feels about it but its a step.But seriously the change your looking for is a greater change within this country and again it will take time. I mean name me 10 black supermodels.Name me 10 black coaches for the NFL and Baseball. I bet you could name me 10 black perfomers in Porn male and female.This is my point. As far as my sells are concern IR does sell better than black movies alone but my sells are not going to reflect the country as a whole. If I came across like that I'm sorry.What kind of experience do you have in porn?I ask only to see why you base your reasoning on what you said previously. Click to expand about performers having their personal choices well that's what i've been saying all along, they have the right not to do IR and i have the right to dislike them and think whatever i want about them and if i think a certain performer is a racist that's my call and i have every right to think that way, nowhere did i say performers don't have the right to choose not to do IR, what i've been saying is quite the opposite and i didn't say anything about consumers, you like what you like, i can't make a white-on-white porn fan like interracial any more than he can make me like vanilla, people like different things. no, i have little to none experience in porn, i happen to know some people who are insiders but that's about it, what i meant was that if you see IR everywhere it's because it sells, obviously there are far more people wanting to see vanilla (which is why there is more white-on-white material out there) but interracial does sell a lot as a genre, there is a huge market for IR. PS just one last comment, i've always found the way americans categorize ethnicity quite arbitrary , latino is not really a race, some people who call themselves latinos look very caucasian to me while some white americans who claim to be white don't look very white, why is palin white but ricky martin is latino ? that makes no sense. Edited by - braziliandude on 9/12/2009 3:03:58 PM [Link]
NerdGod Member Using a 2 inch cock like it was 12 480 Posts 7/06	Posted - Sep 12 2009 : 1:12PM lol your so right about the last comment. I dont get the whole racial thing either. Latino many people in my state if you called them white european with native american they would be insulted. there are yet others that say they are pure bloods from spain and are spanish but not white europeans. lol. thats a very touchy subject here. I dont understand why black on white is IR but white on asian isnt considered IR. As far the rest of your post your totally correct. No people buy it a message is sent out. Honestly the whole thing is stupid. But hate usually is. [Link]

BrazilianDude Deactivated User Minha Vaidade me deixou cansado 351 Posts 8/09	Posted - Sep 13 2009 : 4:01PM NerdGod wrote: lol your so right about the last comment. I dont get the whole racial thing either. Latino many people in my state if you called them white european with native american they would be insulted. there are yet others that say they are pure bloods from spain and are spanish but not white europeans. lol. thats a very touchy subject here. I dont understand why black on white is IR but white on asian isnt considered IR. As far the rest of your post your totally correct. No people buy it a message is sent out. Honestly the whole thing is stupid. But hate usually is. Click to expand spaniards are white european, most latinos in america don't look white because they're mixed with natives but spain itself is white european, here is a documentary about die blaue division, there was also a video of hitler mentioning die blaue division but i can't seem to find it now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaDE0wSPF_0 Edited by - braziliandude on 9/13/2009 4:14:10 PM [Link]
BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07	Posted - Sep 13 2009 : 5:55PM Don't a lot of Spanish people have 'moor' blood in their background? [Link]
BrazilianDude Deactivated User Minha Vaidade me deixou cansado 351 Posts 8/09	Posted - Sep 13 2009 : 6:37PM BlackSix wrote: Don't a lot of Spanish people have 'moor' blood in their background? Click to expand italians have about 2.88 % of subsaharan genes in them , the french have 1.25 % the portuguese 1.10 % , in spain 1.10 % as well, germany 1.08 , england 0.47 % , wales 0.47 % and scandinavia 0.47 %. so all europeans have sub-saharan genes , some happen to have more ,italians are less caucasian than the spaniards for example. by the way, unlike what some people may think , the moors were not black, they were slightly brown-skinned people and looked more like moroccan. [Link]
CapitalM Member 84 Posts 9/09	Posted - Sep 18 2009 : 3:42AM Unfortunately, Yes!. I understand that this is a business, and he's in it to make money, but he should keep in mind that he also has a fan base that does not agree with the ''Artful Dodgers'' being cast in a supposedly IR film distributed through his company, mind you, a black man's company...smdh!. I supported lex from day one by shelling out my hard earned cash, but I now have a totally different view of him, amongst other black men in the industry who feel that they have to bow down to the dodgers, separatists, racists...etc. [Link]
Nimrod Member 624 Posts 7/09	Posted - Sep 19 2009 : 1:03PM CapitalM wrote: Unfortunately, Yes!. I understand that this is a business, and he's in it to make money, but he should keep in mind that he also has a fan base that does not agree with the ''Artful Dodgers'' being cast in a supposedly IR film distributed through his company, mind you, a black man's company...smdh!. I supported lex from day one by shelling out my hard earned cash, but I now have a totally different view of him, amongst other black men in the industry who feel that they have to bow down to the dodgers, separatists, racists...etc. Click to expand There is two kinds of dodgers: the ones who won't because of external pressure and the ones who don't because they view black men as repulsive or inferior. I don't have a problem with dodgers like Nikki Benz,Brooke Haven, Carmella Bing, Rachell starr...because they aren't doing it for business reasons but I can't stand the likes of Ashlynn Brooke, Alexis Texas, Vicky Vette, Krystal Steal,Penny Porsche who just think that blacks aren't on their level. [Link]
RiveGauche1999 Member 472 Posts 1/05	Posted - Sep 19 2009 : 9:44PM CapitalM wrote: Unfortunately, Yes!. I understand that this is a business, and he's in it to make money, but he should keep in mind that he also has a fan base that does not agree with the ''Artful Dodgers'' being cast in a supposedly IR film distributed through his company, mind you, a black man's company...smdh!. I supported lex from day one by shelling out my hard earned cash, but I now have a totally different view of him, amongst other black men in the industry who feel that they have to bow down to the dodgers, separatists, racists...etc. Click to expand True!! that's why i prefer amateur porn any day to the porn put out by the so called top guns in the industry!! This bull is crazy, there is no way in hell i'm supporting this nonsense, making these dingy racist broads or the studios that bows down to them rich off of my hard earned bucks!! [Link]
RiveGauche1999 Member 472 Posts 1/05	Posted - Oct 7 2009 : 9:58PM MrTibbs wrote: You could take this to the next extreme and ask why a black porn entrepreneur would "sell-out" by making interracial porn in the first place. I don't have any statistics handy, but we all know it sells way more than black girl/guy porn. And the resources that go into shooting and promoting interracial porn with white girls are resources that could be used to showcase good black female talent. If someone really cared about racial equality or fairness in the adult entertainment industry, shouldn't they do their best to see that the sistas get at least as much opportunity to work and make money as their Caucasian counterparts? Just playing devil's advocate obviously, but it shows how ridiculous it is to inject politics into porn. Like Lex himself said, the name of the business is hot women and making movies people will masturbate to, not making political statements. Click to expand OMG that's what i said yesterday, all of these well known black male actors that have been in the game for 10 plus years that should have clout with studio heads/producers could do so much to make sure black women get their shine on, it's ridiculous, but like i said yesterday, they only care about "self" and all the "non-black" pussy they can get their dicks in. SMDH!! [Link]
BigBobxxx Senior Member 2681 Posts 5/04	Posted - Oct 8 2009 : 1:29PM BrazilianDude wrote: just an example : you don't see much asian man/white girl interracial in the industry , WHY ?? WHY ?? because it doesn't sell, see how easy it is to tell when something doesn't sell ?? if you don't see much it's because it doesn't sell, if you see BM/WF interracial in just about any regular movie it's because it DOES sell. Click to expand Extra credit: Can someone name a single Asian male pornstar for me? (and I don't mean multi-racial with some Asian in the mix) OK, before the whining starts... I'll give partial credit for naming a male pornstar with at least 50% Asian in the mix. * All-Asian titles produced in Asian countries for their markets don't count. Getting extra credit or partial credit requires naming an Asian male pornstar appearing in porn distributed in (available for) the U.S. market. [Link]
Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02	Posted - Oct 8 2009 : 1:59PM BigBobxxx wrote: Can someone name a single Asian male pornstar for me? Click to expand Keni Styles. OK, so he's British; his heritage is Asian and he looks Asian. However, if you were to ask me if I can name a single male performer working in Japanese porn then the answer would be no. [Link]
BigBobxxx Senior Member 2681 Posts 5/04	Posted - Oct 8 2009 : 2:04PM Keni Styles He's done 12 titles, but fair enough. Any others? [Link]

Ramsey Senior Member Trina Michaels fan 10332 Posts 10/02	Posted - Oct 8 2009 : 2:12PM Can someone name a single Asian male pornstar for me? Click to expand Rick Lee and Hung Lo for example? [Link]
BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07	Posted - Oct 9 2009 : 1:24AM I saw Kenji recently in PURE from Evil Angel and he does several good hot scenes with Asa Akira. [Link]
Keni Member www.kenistylesblog.com 131 Posts 8/07	Posted - Oct 12 2009 : 12:34PM Hiya Guys, Well my name is Keni not 'Kenji' and I've done a few more than 12 movies but hey, besides the point. Thanks for the mentions peeps. I have a more up to date filmography in the side bar of my BLOG but as we all know, it's not about the boys so we don't often get credited in everything we do. Personally just in my opinion, it may well be more to do with the lack of Asian male representation in the talent pool rather than the marketability of that niche. Or at least that is judging from the interest and fan mail that I receive. Don't underestimate the sheer volume of credit card welding Asian porn fans who would love to feel some kind of association with the male performers on screen. edit added blog link LET'S MAKE AIDS HISTORY Edited by - keni on 10/12/2009 12:36:21 PM [Link]
Starr Santiago Member 50 Posts 9/09	Posted - Oct 12 2009 : 1:05PM Keni wrote: Hiya Guys, Well my name is Keni not 'Kenji' and I've done a few more than 12 movies but hey, besides the point. Thanks for the mentions peeps. I have a more up to date filmography in the side bar of my BLOG but as we all know, it's not about the boys so we don't often get credited in everything we do. Personally just in my opinion, it may well be more to do with the lack of Asian male representation in the talent pool rather than the marketability of that niche. Or at least that is judging from the interest and fan mail that I receive. Don't underestimate the sheer volume of credit card welding Asian porn fans who would love to feel some kind of association with the male performers on screen. edit added blog link LET'S MAKE AIDS HISTORY Edited by - keni on 10/12/2009 12:36:21 PM Click to expand Hi Keni, welcome to the board and I'm beyond thrilled to see hot-ass Asian men trying to make a name for themselves in this business. And you're right, producers have been using that lame ass "it doesn't sell" to cover for their own lazyness (to scout & distribute decent talent) and bigotry. If no one is "buying it" then why are folks still hounding you for it?? The ish' is getting old, fellas. And us smart ones aren't buying it anymore. [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Oct 12 2009 : 1:09PM ^ I agree - I have long wondered why there aren't more films with "Asian" men. It's something I would like to see more of. I didn't even know who Keni was until a thread about Pure got started over in the Feature forum - I can't wait to see it. [Link]
BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07	Posted - Oct 12 2009 : 8:11PM Keni wrote: Hiya Guys, Well my name is Keni not 'Kenji' Click to expand Sorry dude. I liked your scenes with Asa Akira in PURE. [Link]
BrazilianDude Deactivated User Minha Vaidade me deixou cansado 351 Posts 8/09	Posted - Oct 12 2009 : 10:35PM i think the problem with asian men porn is that white men don't usually buy it (and let's face it , white men make up a huge portion of the porn audience) for some reason white men tend to be more interested in BM/WF porn than AM/WF porn , just see how you're likely to see interracial porn in any european country, even in countries where there is virtually no black population (like germany , scandinavian countries etc) you'll see BM/WF porn being produced, and in other parts of the world things are also disproportionately favorable to BM/WF porn, in all my years of renting porn here in brazil i have never seen a movie with asian men, there is no AM/WF porn here, neither brazilian nor international, and things are like that throughout south america, just check out any porn movie from argentina and the only interracial you'll see is with black men, so while there is a huge market for AM/WF porn it's not nearly as big, it would sell a lot in japan but japan (one of the few asian countries where porn is even legal) is a closed society and the japanese already produce their own porn. Edited by - braziliandude on 10/31/2009 10:55:33 PM [Link]
thejizzler Member 10 Posts 9/09	Posted - Oct 13 2009 : 1:13PM No way is Lex a sell out.He just won a fame award at this years erotica so I don't think anyone else thinks he is either. Since the fans vote for that. [Link]
Keni Member www.kenistylesblog.com 131 Posts 8/07	Posted - Oct 14 2009 : 3:45AM BlackSix wrote: Sorry dude. I liked your scenes with Asa Akira in PURE. Click to expand No need, no probs dude. Back on topic, I don't think Lex is selling out, perhaps.. jus perhaps.. he don't care about all the racist crap and is a good business man? [Link]
Fernandez Deactivated User 781 Posts 12/08	Posted - Oct 15 2009 : 11:18PM BlackSix wrote: Don't a lot of Spanish people have 'moor' blood in their background? Click to expand Moors occupied Spain for many years. [Link]

ntfighter Member 645 Posts 7/07	Posted - Oct 16 2009 : 4:15PM Keni wrote: BlackSix wrote: Sorry dude. I liked your scenes with Asa Akira in PURE. Click to expand No need, no probs dude. Back on topic, I don't think Lex is selling out, perhaps.. jus perhaps.. he don't care about all the racist crap and is a good business man? Click to expand I must disagree, There is no such thing as a African American who doesn't care about racism. Lex may have had to reorder and prioritizes or make some concession considering his business environment, but not care or not see would require a mental illness. Edited by - ntfighter on 10/16/2009 9:28:00 PM [Link]
Keni Member www.kenistylesblog.com 131 Posts 8/07	Posted - Oct 21 2009 : 6:29AM ntfighter wrote: I must disagree, There is no such thing as a African American who doesn't care about racism. Lex may have had to reorder and prioritizes or make some concession considering his business environment, but not care or not see would require a mental illness. Click to expand Well I guess anyone can only speculate. Personally I meant not care about it in either sense of it doesn't matter to him or it doesn't matter to his sales. Either way I think it's only fair to comment on the quality of his productions.. pft anyways! [Link]
Fernandez Deactivated User 781 Posts 12/08	Posted - Oct 24 2009 : 4:51PM Comment has nothing to do with Lexington Steele vis-a-vis IR and the "sellout" gripe. The only point I see here is to cast dispersion on Lex, and this mod isn't going to let you go down this road. Please stay on topic. -- BigBobxxx Edited by - BigBobxxx on 10/24/2009 5:42:05 PM [Link]
Vivid Suck Deactivated User 29 Posts 12/09	Posted - Dec 25 2009 : 3:44PM Lex is a fucking sellout, that is why so many IR fans haven't buy his movies as of lasted. So I don't support an *** who used dodgers in his movie. Like I said support company that do IR like Black Ice, Jules Jordan, Evil Angel, and Justin Slayer. Lex is a fucking sellout and I still hate him. BTW Shawn Michael, Mr.Marcus, Justin Slayer, and even Richard Mann are better then Uncle Tom Lex. [mod edit: Do not resort to name-calling.] Edited by - savoy on 12/26/2009 3:22:43 AM [Link]
ADT44 Member 876 Posts 7/09	Posted - Dec 26 2009 : 8:41AM jni1973 wrote: I know that everyone is tired of talking about the Female Pornstars that will not work with Black male talent. A couple of months ago I asked Lexington Steele a question on his website and this is the response I got. Why do you hire stars that don’t do interracial like Alexis Texas and Carmela Bing to be in some of your movies? In regards to casting girls that do not do interracial, this is something that many people have inquired about. Well, to put it bluntly: there are many popular girls that generate increased sales by their inclusion in a movie, that do not do black guys. I am in this business as owner of Mercenary Pictures to generate revenues by the sale of adult oriented media. Therefore, if a girl does not want to work with me or the other black men that I cast in Mercenary titles, I cast her with men that she will work with that I hire regularly and are not black. Pornography is not a place for political statements. Matter of fact, I make movies with one thing in mind: that is, the movie must be make someone want to masturbate to it. Remember my friend, this is about hot women and hot women are why there are pornos. I am ‘so over’ trippin’ on a chick not doing interracial. In most cases, a girl that does not do interracial may not be hired by me because I have a greater necessity for interracial scenes. This is about money and I won’t hold her politics against her. If I hire a girl that does not do black guys, it is because I know she will generate sales for me.Thusly, the casting of Alexis Texas, Carmella Bang. In the end, she gets paid; I get paid; the buyer is happy because this hot girl is in the movie….we all should be happy. Life is too short to trip on this. This is porno, for god sake. Finally, I realize that a few may regard this as me being a sell-out; this would be untrue. I am ultimately just another businessman with a product to sell. Let me know what you guys think? Click to expand I don't see what a girls politics has to do with her not wanting to do scenes with blacks. Okay, maybe a lot of customers won't buy movies with her anymore because she once did an interracial scene. but she still gets the money after she did that (interracial) scene, right? I mean, it's not that girls get paid additionally with every extra copy that is being bought, right? So, I don't get the "politics" part is this context. As long as a girl does not get paid per dvd, I don't see where it might be hurting her career to do blacks.A girl will do porn for the money, NOT because she wants to please every single fan. Maybe it's because I'm not American but I really don't get why so many black guys can't accept the fact that some girls JUST DON'T LIKE/FEEL ATTRACTED TO BLACK MEN (be in in their private life or on screen). If I read Lex (and so many other black dudes here on ADT) complain and 'r "trippin" over the fact that a girl won't do brothas, then I think they are pathetic losers! I, for instance, never dated a black girl: I just don't feel attracted to them even tho I had many many opportunities to fuck them after some party. I don't like dark skin color in general (for sexual partners at least) and I dont like their African-isque body odor (a moist nutty and woody smell). Same goes for Chinese and japanese girls: I don't like how most of them look and how their body odor smells: they smell like urine. That's because of their food, they eat lots and lots of (raw) fish (sushi) But I do however like half breeds! And I also like darker Dominican and other latin american girls, as long as they aren't African dark. That's 'cause I just have great personal chemistry with most Latina's. It's all a personal preference. What's so hard to accept about personal preferences??? It's too simple to then just say, that fucker ADT44 is just another racist if he won't fuck black girls because of the reasons he named....get real. The only "politics" part here....A porn girl beating around the bush as to why they don't like to do blacks on camera or in their private lives: to be polite to the black porn fans. Such evasive conduct is more than acceptable to me. Anyway, I don't think Lex is a sell out, I think he is being a good businessman. He says it's all about making the customer happy, that's bullshit obviously, it's all about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$. Customers wanna see pornstar xy or z, thats why they are being casted by Lex to do a scene with a (white or lighter skinned latino) guy of their choice. Every selfrespecting businessman will acknowledge that even tho it means putting your "black man's proud" aside, it's all about getting more and more and more money for that Beemer or Merc or whatever! Don't wine about the fact that a white or latina girl doesn't feel attracted to black guys. C'mon now, you guys CLEARLY don't go out a lot, do you? LMFAO. If so, you would notice that not every single hot white girl wants you at that club you're partying....I can't imagine that there are still guys here or wherever that are so naive to think that a girl doesn't flirt back only due to the fact that they lack sufficient game or whatever. I can tell you know, that you don't always have to be fucking casanova himself to get in a girls pants. If she feels attracted to you, she'll certainly laugh at your lame stupid jokes, even though your game sucks! (I know from experience, LOL). If you don't get pussy with whitey girl A, move on to another target, whitey girl B. etc. Edited by - adt44 on 12/26/2009 9:17:36 AM [Link]
Bluto Deactivated User 511 Posts 3/09	Posted - Dec 26 2009 : 12:20PM Since black guys don't date black girls, how come they always be preggers? [Link]
Vivid Suck Deactivated User 29 Posts 12/09	Posted - Dec 26 2009 : 1:27PM ADT44 wrote: jni1973 wrote: I know that everyone is tired of talking about the Female Pornstars that will not work with Black male talent. A couple of months ago I asked Lexington Steele a question on his website and this is the response I got. Why do you hire stars that don’t do interracial like Alexis Texas and Carmela Bing to be in some of your movies? In regards to casting girls that do not do interracial, this is something that many people have inquired about. Well, to put it bluntly: there are many popular girls that generate increased sales by their inclusion in a movie, that do not do black guys. I am in this business as owner of Mercenary Pictures to generate revenues by the sale of adult oriented media. Therefore, if a girl does not want to work with me or the other black men that I cast in Mercenary titles, I cast her with men that she will work with that I hire regularly and are not black. Pornography is not a place for political statements. Matter of fact, I make movies with one thing in mind: that is, the movie must be make someone want to masturbate to it. Remember my friend, this is about hot women and hot women are why there are pornos. I am ‘so over’ trippin’ on a chick not doing interracial. In most cases, a girl that does not do interracial may not be hired by me because I have a greater necessity for interracial scenes. This is about money and I won’t hold her politics against her. If I hire a girl that does not do black guys, it is because I know she will generate sales for me.Thusly, the casting of Alexis Texas, Carmella Bang. In the end, she gets paid; I get paid; the buyer is happy because this hot girl is in the movie….we all should be happy. Life is too short to trip on this. This is porno, for god sake. Finally, I realize that a few may regard this as me being a sell-out; this would be untrue. I am ultimately just another businessman with a product to sell. Let me know what you guys think? Click to expand I don't see what a girls politics has to do with her not wanting to do scenes with blacks. Okay, maybe a lot of customers won't buy movies with her anymore because she once did an interracial scene. but she still gets the money after she did that (interracial) scene, right? I mean, it's not that girls get paid additionally with every extra copy that is being bought, right? So, I don't get the "politics" part is this context. As long as a girl does not get paid per dvd, I don't see where it might be hurting her career to do blacks.A girl will do porn for the money, NOT because she wants to please every single fan. Maybe it's because I'm not American but I really don't get why so many black guys can't accept the fact that some girls JUST DON'T LIKE/FEEL ATTRACTED TO BLACK MEN (be in in their private life or on screen). If I read Lex (and so many other black dudes here on ADT) complain and 'r "trippin" over the fact that a girl won't do brothas, then I think they are pathetic losers! I, for instance, never dated a black girl: I just don't feel attracted to them even tho I had many many opportunities to fuck them after some party. I don't like dark skin color in general (for sexual partners at least) and I dont like their African-isque body odor (a moist nutty and woody smell). Same goes for Chinese and japanese girls: I don't like how most of them look and how their body odor smells: they smell like urine. That's because of their food, they eat lots and lots of (raw) fish (sushi) But I do however like half breeds! And I also like darker Dominican and other latin american girls, as long as they aren't African dark. That's 'cause I just have great personal chemistry with most Latina's. It's all a personal preference. What's so hard to accept about personal preferences??? It's too simple to then just say, that fucker ADT44 is just another racist if he won't fuck black girls because of the reasons he named....get real. The only "politics" part here....A porn girl beating around the bush as to why they don't like to do blacks on camera or in their private lives: to be polite to the black porn fans. Such evasive conduct is more than acceptable to me. Anyway, I don't think Lex is a sell out, I think he is being a good businessman. He says it's all about making the customer happy, that's bullshit obviously, it's all about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$. Customers wanna see pornstar xy or z, thats why they are being casted by Lex to do a scene with a (white or lighter skinned latino) guy of their choice. Every selfrespecting businessman will acknowledge that even tho it means putting your "black man's proud" aside, it's all about getting more and more and more money for that Beemer or Merc or whatever! Don't wine about the fact that a white or latina girl doesn't feel attracted to black guys. C'mon now, you guys CLEARLY don't go out a lot, do you? LMFAO. If so, you would notice that not every single hot white girl wants you at that club you're partying....I can't imagine that there are still guys here or wherever that are so naive to think that a girl doesn't flirt back only due to the fact that they lack sufficient game or whatever. I can tell you know, that you don't always have to be fucking casanova himself to get in a girls pants. If she feels attracted to you, she'll certainly laugh at your lame stupid jokes, even though your game sucks! (I know from experience, LOL). If you don't get pussy with whitey girl A, move on to another target, whitey girl B. etc. Edited by - adt44 on 12/26/2009 9:17:36 AM Click to expand He is a sellout to his IR fanbase and that is why nobody isn't buying his DVD anymore. I don't support a guy who used dodogers in his movie and that is why I don't buy his movie from his company. Like I said support company and the girls who IR and don't give money to Lex. [Link]
Nimrod Member 624 Posts 7/09	Posted - Dec 26 2009 : 2:02PM ntfighter wrote: I must disagree, There is no such thing as a African American who doesn't care about racism. Lex may have had to reorder and prioritizes or make some concession considering his business environment, but not care or not see would require a mental illness. Click to expand Not to care would require mental illness? [Link]
ntfighter Member 645 Posts 7/07	Posted - Dec 26 2009 : 3:49PM ^ Thanks Nimrod but I like it the way I wrote it. [Link]
Zaer Deactivated User 249 Posts 10/07	Posted - Dec 26 2009 : 4:11PM BrazilianDude wrote: just an example : you don't see much asian man/white girl interracial in the industry , WHY ?? WHY ?? because it doesn't sell, see how easy it is to tell when something doesn't sell ?? if you don't see much it's because it doesn't sell, if you see BM/WF interracial in just about any regular movie it's because it DOES sell. Edited by - braziliandude on 9/10/2009 9:59:40 PM Click to expand AM/WF sells, but because the population of Asian's isn't as large as that of other groups those kinds of movies aren't made. But if the population was larger then those same white women who won't work with Blacks would suddenly be more than able to work with someone who's Asian. Edited by - Zaer on 12/26/2009 4:30:39 PM [Link]
Vivid Suck Deactivated User 29 Posts 12/09	Posted - Dec 26 2009 : 4:45PM Zaer wrote: BrazilianDude wrote: just an example : you don't see much asian man/white girl interracial in the industry , WHY ?? WHY ?? because it doesn't sell, see how easy it is to tell when something doesn't sell ?? if you don't see much it's because it doesn't sell, if you see BM/WF interracial in just about any regular movie it's because it DOES sell. Edited by - braziliandude on 9/10/2009 9:59:40 PM Click to expand AM/WF sells, but because the population of Asian's isn't as large as that of other groups those kinds of movies aren't made. But if the population was larger then those same white women who won't work with Blacks would suddenly be more than able to work with someone who's Asian. Edited by - Zaer on 12/26/2009 4:30:39 PM Click to expand I wouldn't watch an AM/WF movies too because if she can fuck a asian guy when why she can fucked a black guy. As for Lex I hope his company can go out of bussiness. Also Justin Slayer who is ten time better then Lex is getting new girl who do IR and his company is getting good. That is why most IR fans haven't brought any Lexington Steele company but they will buy something from Lex/Julie Jordan. Pluse JJ is the only white guy that support IR and alot of IR fans who are black buy his movie. [Link]
fu_q All-Star Member Marv Montag (@PornOfYore) 2506 Posts 2/09	Posted - Dec 26 2009 : 6:24PM ^"Julie Jordan" is a hero of mine. [Link]
smutlover65 Member 359 Posts 10/07	Posted - Dec 26 2009 : 6:43PM BrazilianDude wrote: just an example : you don't see much asian man/white girl interracial in the industry , WHY ?? WHY ?? because it doesn't sell, see how easy it is to tell when something doesn't sell ?? if you don't see much it's because it doesn't sell, if you see BM/WF interracial in just about any regular movie it's because it DOES sell. Edited by - braziliandude on 9/10/2009 9:59:40 PM Click to expand And the reason Asian man/white girl porn doesn't sell is because Asian guys just don't have the equipment. Sorry, but it's true. [Link]
Keni Member www.kenistylesblog.com 131 Posts 8/07	Posted - Dec 26 2009 : 9:30PM smutlover65 wrote: And the reason Asian man/white girl porn doesn't sell is because Asian guys just don't have the equipment. Sorry, but it's true. Click to expand Not meaning to drag this thread of topic but that's a pretty huge generalization dude... I mean is that a fact right there? Personally, from what I have seen, Asian men with white women sells extremely well especially to Asian men! LOL! But then hey, who cares about that marketing demographic in any statistics eh? Pah! :D [Link]
smutlover65 Member 359 Posts 10/07	Posted - Dec 26 2009 : 9:35PM Keni wrote: smutlover65 wrote: And the reason Asian man/white girl porn doesn't sell is because Asian guys just don't have the equipment. Sorry, but it's true. Click to expand Not meaning to drag this thread of topic but that's a pretty huge generalization dude... I mean is that a fact right there? Personally, from what I have seen, Asian men with white women sells extremely well especially to Asian men! LOL! But then hey, who cares about that marketing demographic in any statistics eh? Pah! :D Click to expand I know it is a generalization, but the generalization holds true. I think the perception that it's true may be even stronger than the reality. [Link]
Bluto Deactivated User 511 Posts 3/09	Posted - Dec 26 2009 : 9:40PM How much Asian dick have you ogled? [Link]