Is Porn Really Mysogynistic At Its Core? (page 3)

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Housemaster Member 87 Posts 6/12	Posted - Nov 7 2012 : 6:44PM I will agree that porn is mostly made by men for young males who don't have much, if any, experience with the opposite sex. However, mostly does mean always, it is just that the biggest market doesn't know about, and so doesn't care about, a real world portrayal of sexual conduct. It only cares about having a fantasy world where sexual gratification is quick and easy, because it sure ain't gettin' any in real life. Click to expand Not sure about this. How young is young? [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Nov 7 2012 : 7:24PM echoplex wrote: It reduces women to body parts, fetishes, race/ethnicity, etc. Just about any scenario a guy could dream up, producers will have women lined up to make it so. It's not because those women love whatever that is, as much as it is they get paid for it, get some attention from it. It's a lot like prostitution. Porn uses people, men too, but especially women. Click to expand Oh dear. I didn't know that porn uses people (With their permission. You forgot that part. But it seems we've suddenly forgotten that adults have the right to consent). Name something that doesn't use people. If you want to get anything done, you have to get someone to do it. What kind of nutty shit are you trying sell us here? Edited by - randomprecision on 11/7/2012 8:31:14 PM [Link]
Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03	Posted - Nov 7 2012 : 7:39PM Pontus Maximus wrote: I always assumed that the name, Evasive Angles, has to do with the way a boxer continually maneuvers his body to avoid being hit by his opponent. Click to expand Come on. The only reason he called the company that was to try to get his stuff shelved in between Elegant Angel's and Evil Angel's, and hopefully to be confused by casual buyers as the product of one or the other of those two companies. [Link]
Pontus Maximus Senior Member Man of Steel, meet your match. 1346 Posts 9/02	Posted - Nov 7 2012 : 9:31PM Harri Patel wrote: Come on. The only reason he called the company that was to try to get his stuff shelved in between Elegant Angel's and Evil Angel's, and hopefully to be confused by casual buyers as the product of one or the other of those two companies. Click to expand 1.) We're both merely speculating (which is why I used the word 'assumed'). 2.) Our theories are not mutually exclusive. 3.) Your theory would be more plausible if T.T. Boy had named it Evasive Angel (which would make the most sense if his motive was what you suggested). 4.) Why didn't he just come up with something like 'Erotic Angel' (or even 'Erotic Angles') rather than 'Evasive Angles'? No, Harri, I remain convinced that the name Evasive Angles was inspired by T.T. Boy's boxing background and is either the primary or sole motive for the name. Just a theory, but I think a better one than yours. [Link]

Pontus Maximus Senior Member Man of Steel, meet your match. 1346 Posts 9/02	Posted - Nov 7 2012 : 10:33PM On second thought, Harri, maybe you're right. Maybe T.T. Boy arbitrarily combined the words 'evasive' and 'angles' solely based on their similarity to the words 'evil' and 'angel' to get his product positioned right next to Evil Angel's in adult/video bookstores and boutiques. I concede the point. [Link]
BustdownGal Member 539 Posts 7/06	Posted - Nov 8 2012 : 10:36AM Tudor24 wrote: Oh and the idea that clitoral stimulation is the only way a woman feels sexual pleasure is ridiculous. Click to expand No one said that. But the clitoris is the most direct route to female orgasm, just like the penis is the most direct route to male orgasm. Porn's lack of attention to the clitoris belies any of its claims that it cares about women's sexual pleasure. As I stated above, it would be like a series of cooking videos in which men get the food in their mouths and women get it in the nose. [Link]
Geri Member 329 Posts 7/12	Posted - Nov 8 2012 : 10:50AM ^^^^ BustdownGal If you want to see lots of attention paid to the clit you really should try watching some lesbian porn for a change. And also boy/girl made by directors and producers who care passionately about girl/girl - like Nica Noelle and Viv Thomas - instead of all this Evil Angel style extreme gonzo type stuff. [Link]
A-ten Deactivated User 581 Posts 8/07	Posted - Nov 8 2012 : 10:58AM No. Porn worships the women and objectifies them. How is that misogony? Some people don't like the fact that porn pulls out the dirty animalistic nature of sex from the bedroom to the video screen. This is what sex is like. It's idealized in that porn selects for physically attractive females with big dick males and has them pound them like an animal. But this is sex in a primal, perverted state. The dreams of men with beautiful women worshipping and using their bodies. There is misogynistic porn where men beat and degrade women. But most porn is guys banging them out. The people that watch are sexually attracted to the women. As far as the men in a dominant position, men will always want to dominate women. It's in their nature. [Link]
BustdownGal Member 539 Posts 7/06	Posted - Nov 8 2012 : 10:59AM Geri wrote: If you want to see lots of attention paid to the clit you really should try watching some lesbian porn for a change. And also boy/girl made by directors and producers who care passionately about girl/girl - like Nica Noelle and Viv Thomas - instead of all this Evil Angel style extreme gonzo type stuff. Click to expand 1. There is no type of legal porn I haven't seen. Especially now, thanks to lezpoo.com 2. The problem of men not licking clit in porn is not solved by women licking clit. What do we want? CUNNILINGUS FROM MEN! When do we want it? NOW! 3. Not only in porn but in our political life I am seeing that as more and more people receive equal treatment the more I notice the privileges that the ruling classes (in porn and in life) have. [Link]
Geri Member 329 Posts 7/12	Posted - Nov 8 2012 : 12:51PM BustdownGal wrote: 1. There is no type of legal porn I haven't seen. Especially now, thanks to lezpoo.com Click to expand I really doubt that. And scat is not generally consider to be legal porn. As a seller of porn I wouldn't touch it. Not even fake scat porn. BustdownGal wrote: 2. The problem of men not licking clit in porn is not solved by women licking clit. What do we want? CUNNILINGUS FROM MEN! When do we want it? NOW! Click to expand If there is no type of legal porn you haven't seen then you have seen men licking clit in porn. Not necessarily men doing it well, but you will have seen them do it. How many movies directed by Candida Royalle have you watched? Have you ever had a membership of forthegirls.com ? 3. Not only in porn but in our political life I am seeing that as more and more people receive equal treatment the more I notice the privileges that the ruling classes (in porn and in life) have. Click to expand Anyone who didn't know anything about the adult movie industry who read the comments you have made in this thread could be forgiven for thinking there are no female directors of porn or any female owned porn companies - which of course is not the case. [Link]
alphadachs Member 475 Posts 3/10	Posted - Nov 8 2012 : 1:44PM BustdownGal wrote: (snip) 2. The problem of men not licking clit in porn is not solved by women licking clit. What do we want? CUNNILINGUS FROM MEN! When do we want it? NOW! (snip) Click to expand Okay, this moves immediately onto my list of top-ten statements on ADT! And while we're on the subject, as one who loves licking it, I also vote for more in porn. Can we get a petition going? [Link]
BustdownGal Member 539 Posts 7/06	Posted - Nov 8 2012 : 8:06PM Dear sweet noob Geri, It is clear that you do not know who I am, but your Queen of the Damned forgives thee. I am that statue in the corner of ADT with a rainbow-colored "F" spray-painted on the mons. But I live. Like an Anne Rice vampire I was birthed shortly after dawn of time (2002) and I've grown more marblesque with age. My sword is a Hitachi Magic Wand and my shield is an adamantium dental dam. My familiar is a Rabbit Vibrator and my birthstone is Feministium. I am the stone with face covered in ooze I am the lesbian inspiration that makes pussies sing the blues I'm the spark that makes the convo glare While selling sexual wares I know every Dick from Nasty to Delaware I am the finger in your box The magic bullet in your bum The inner glow that lets even Your mama know you've cum A tart, unbending cun' A cougar on the hun' And I'll be a porn soldier until the war is won Geri wrote: If there is no type of legal porn you haven't seen then you have seen men licking clit in porn. Not necessarily men doing it well, but you will have seen them do it. Click to expand Exceptions do not make the rule. Please don't be argumentative about the fact that the overwhelming majority of porn is about pleasing that dick to the exclusion of that clit. Please don't be argumentative about the fact that porn imagery sends the consistent message that women's central orgasmic pleasure comes from vaginal penetration when in real life it mostly arrives via clitoral stimulation. I re-iterate. I've seen it all. I know that there are women directors and feminist porn and yaddayaddasplurge. I wrote a fucking review for forthegirls for the state chapter of my bdsm club. Exceptions to a pattern don't erase a pattern, they make the pattern clearer. You are not in disagreement with me. The clit-licking we've both seen in porn is real. That doesn't make the bulk of the industry less guilty of ignoring women's pleasure. [Link]
echoplex Member 197 Posts 9/08	Posted - Nov 8 2012 : 8:06PM BlackSix wrote: Hollywood doesn't care about their actors, directors, technicians either. Does that make it misogynistic? McDonalds doesn't care about their workers, etc. Click to expand Porn is is different in that it will take anything with a vag in (while it won't just take anyone with a dick), because it means more content. The intention is the exploitation, because the exploitation of the worker is actually the entertainment. [Link]
echoplex Member 197 Posts 9/08	Posted - Nov 8 2012 : 9:12PM RandomPrecision wrote: echoplex wrote: It reduces women to body parts, fetishes, race/ethnicity, etc. Just about any scenario a guy could dream up, producers will have women lined up to make it so. It's not because those women love whatever that is, as much as it is they get paid for it, get some attention from it. It's a lot like prostitution. Porn uses people, men too, but especially women. Click to expand Oh dear. I didn't know that porn uses people (With their permission. You forgot that part. But it seems we've suddenly forgotten that adults have the right to consent). Name something that doesn't use people. If you want to get anything done, you have to get someone to do it. What kind of nutty shit are you trying sell us here? Edited by - randomprecision on 11/7/2012 8:31:14 PM Click to expand The nutty shit is use-of people as the product. Sort of like a clown, the humiliation and indignity required is just as his job description reads. NOT so for a 9 to 5er working to bring a product or service to a customer. McDonald's patties aren't made of people. Porn goes through women (people in general) as it's commodity, something to be bought and used. The sheer number of women gone through and used in the same fashion speaks for itself, of how little importance each individual really is, both in business aspects and in the fantasy world it aims to create, where if you're tired of this one, move on to the next. The women aren't important, it's just the fantasy. The moment you turn the person into an object, it is degrading. I never suggested it wasn't of their permission, so don't know where that is popping in from. Bozo is also consenting, it's a tough gig but pays well. [Link]

Pontus Maximus Senior Member Man of Steel, meet your match. 1346 Posts 9/02	Posted - Nov 8 2012 : 9:33PM Bozo is also consenting Click to expand [Link]
Geri Member 329 Posts 7/12	Posted - Nov 9 2012 : 12:51PM BustdownGal wrote: Dear sweet noob Geri, Click to expand I may be new to this forum (as a poster) but I'm not remotely new to porn. It is clear that you do not know who I am, but your Queen of the Damned forgives thee. I am that statue in the corner of ADT with a rainbow-colored "F" spray-painted on the mons. But I live. Like an Anne Rice vampire I was birthed shortly after dawn of time (2002) and I've grown more marblesque with age. My sword is a Hitachi Magic Wand and my shield is an adamantium dental dam. My familiar is a Rabbit Vibrator and my birthstone is Feministium. I am the stone with face covered in ooze I am the lesbian inspiration that makes pussies sing the blues I'm the spark that makes the convo glare While selling sexual wares I know every Dick from Nasty to Delaware I am the finger in your box The magic bullet in your bum The inner glow that lets even Your mama know you've cum A tart, unbending cun' A cougar on the hun' And I'll be a porn soldier until the war is won Click to expand That's great. But I still don't know who you are. And I'm not sure I care to. Exceptions do not make the rule. Please don't be argumentative about the fact that the overwhelming majority of porn is about pleasing that dick to the exclusion of that clit. Please don't be argumentative about the fact that porn imagery sends the consistent message that women's central orgasmic pleasure comes from vaginal penetration when in real life it mostly arrives via clitoral stimulation. Click to expand Exceptions provide an alternative to the rule. An apple has a core. So does an orange. Should a porn star who only has G-Spot orgasms and has no feeling in her clit pretend to be responsive to clitoral stimulation because this is the rule rather than the exception in "real life"? I re-iterate. I've seen it all. I know that there are women directors and feminist porn and yaddayaddasplurge. Click to expand Of course you do. And I trust you spend some of your hard earned money on some of their works from time to time. I wrote a fucking review for forthegirls for the state chapter of my bdsm club. Click to expand Why? Exceptions to a pattern don't erase a pattern, they make the pattern clearer. You are not in disagreement with me. The clit-licking we've both seen in porn is real. That doesn't make the bulk of the industry less guilty of ignoring women's pleasure. Click to expand The porn industry isn't telling anyone that women don't find sex pleasurable. On the contrary. Misrepresenting something isn't the same as ignoring it. But when all is said and done, inevitably some women will enjoy the porn you abhor. [Link]
BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07	Posted - Nov 10 2012 : 3:34AM The moment you turn the person into an object, it is degrading. Click to expand Are athletes degraded because they're objects of fascination, or an actor admired for their beauty or ruggedness? The whole question of objectification is much more complex than you let on. The best performers, like actors, give the impression of imparting something of themselves in their scenes. I fail to see what is degrading in this, unless you think all sex is degrading. The fact that it is filmed and performed for the camera is not per se degrading. [Link]
abdar nitangae Member 108 Posts 5/12	Posted - Nov 10 2012 : 11:17AM I don't think so. Men are always going to like porn more than women, as they are more visually oriented. What we see on screen is what men want, not what they have to negotiate from a partner. [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Nov 10 2012 : 4:47PM BlackSix wrote: The moment you turn the person into an object, it is degrading. Click to expand Are athletes degraded because they're objects of fascination, or an actor admired for their beauty or ruggedness? The whole question of objectification is much more complex than you let on. The best performers, like actors, give the impression of imparting something of themselves in their scenes. I fail to see what is degrading in this, unless you think all sex is degrading. The fact that it is filmed and performed for the camera is not per se degrading. Click to expand This is why I contend that you can't win with this type of feminist. Their entire argument is designed from the ground up to be impossible to deal with. They claim sex is always degrading. Well, you know what? If that's what they think, fine. Fuck 'em. I'm tired of arguing with people who are completely unreasonable. [Link]
Housemaster Member 87 Posts 6/12	Posted - Nov 10 2012 : 9:22PM In answer to the question in the thread title... No. It is about the love of women, even the worship of them. [Link]
JohnW Senior Member 1351 Posts 6/08	Posted - Nov 10 2012 : 9:29PM RandomPrecision wrote: This is why I contend that you can't win with this type of feminist. Their entire argument is designed from the ground up to be impossible to deal with. They claim sex is always degrading. Click to expand If someone has a prejudiced attitude, of course you can't win. That goes for every issue. Even the question in this thread is flawed: "Is Porn Really Mysogynistic At Its Core?" At its "core"? What does that even mean? The "core" of porn is exactly what? Its literal definition? Sexual imagery? Even if 99% of porn was horrible and violent, its still impossible for a picture of a sexual action to be misogynistic by definition. But some do actually claim that. [Link]
BustdownGal Member 539 Posts 7/06	Posted - Nov 10 2012 : 11:37PM Random, u mad bro? [Link]
slyloki Member I don't exist when you don't see me.. 22 Posts 8/12	Posted - Nov 11 2012 : 4:12AM BustdownGal wrote: ...I'm talking about the simple pleasure of having onscreen attention paid to the clitoris, the most direct route to orgasm for most women. The severe imbalance of attention paid to pleasuring the dick vs pleasuring the clit clearly demonstrates a severe lack of care... Click to expand I was going to leave my reply till I read some more laughables.. But You got me Gal.. Of all the females I've been with, only 2 could cum clitoraly, some from penetration alone and some required both.. BUT!!! all of them could cum from getting into their head.. All this focus on the clit (I am the clitmeister as Jay said) is removing focus on the biggest sexorgan we have.. The brain.. Some people like to be treated like doormats.. It turns them on.. I don't get it, "you" don't get it, but thats not the point.. On frequent vitits to the hellfire club, I've seen guys/a guy lying under a mat that said "please step on me", a girl kneeling with her mouth open, her tongue out and a sign saying "ashtray", People crawling on all fours led with a leash, people tied to an a-frame having their clothes ripped off and flogged in front of total strangers.. Are they consenting?! Heck yes, from the chats I've had with some of them.. Does it get them off, heck yes.. Do they think the people whipping, ashing or stepping on them hate them? Fk no!!! They think these people are helping then get the 'mind fuk' they are craving for.. So... What does this have to do with porn?! Well Porn for the largest part consists of consentual adults, irrelevant if they do it for the money, the gratification or to be famous.. Sometimes humiliation, degradation IS consentual.. Thats all there is to it.. As for not enough focus on the clit, sorry, But I love clit play and giving pleasure, but when it happens in porn it obscures one of the most beautiful things in existance.. And most male performers are so crude at pleasing the clit, it makes me cringe so I skip past it.. Mysogyny no, a (sad trend) of a very intimate act that requires a very intimate mental understanding of the receiver that the uneducated majority should not be exposed to in such a careless/emotionless portrayal?! yes... [Link]
slyloki Member I don't exist when you don't see me.. 22 Posts 8/12	Posted - Nov 11 2012 : 4:43AM Niteflyte777 wrote: I just got done taking a stats class... I know that many of the stats that people use for political purposes, are quite flawed. ---- 67% of stats are made up.. :) [Link]

slyloki Member I don't exist when you don't see me.. 22 Posts 8/12	Posted - Nov 11 2012 : 5:10AM BustdownGal wrote: more_cowbell wrote: @bustdown gal I don't feel porn is misogynist because it's male-oriented. Click to expand Oh but that's what makes it so. Porn is propaganda for male dominance and female submission by the simple fact that most porn sells the fantasy that sex is "a man orgasming and a woman getting all the pleasure she needs from his orgasm." That is cutting off a spiritual limb from the body of the concept of Women's sexuality. Porn is targeted at a male audience, it's where their money is! Your complaint is like saying "petfood companies discriminate coz they don't make anything I can eat!" Whiskas does not discriminate against humans, or dogs for that matter because it only makes catfood!! You with the obsession for clit, should search and focus on the clit pleasing porn that is out there.. You probably missed it coz theres usually some ugly tongue or hand covering the clit.. Focus less on what you don't like.. don't eat liver and complain that I don't like it, I avoid liver and eat a nice steak instead.. But I accept others like a bit of liver. (with a nice chianti) and do not hold that aainst them.. Back on topic, you have your opinion, but there's thousands of porn actresses and millions of 'real life' females that don't agree with your point of view.. You going on about mysogyny porn and no woman wanting to be treated like that, etc etc, is in fact 'mysogynistic' and degrades the women who do get pleasure from the things you don't.. So get over it, and don't blame porn that no guy can find your clit! Most guys don't want to see a guy make realistic love with a woman. Click to expand 1. The popularity of Hollywood movies and TV shows that try to show realistic sex belies your statement. 2. People want to see anything that's well-made. Landscaping, outer space and funerals are all boring things until you turn them into Edward Scissorhands, Prometheus and Six Feet Under. Real sex is give and take. You do things to please your partner when you'd rather be doing other things. Click to expand Wow. Please tell this to your wife now so that she can hasten the divorce. Yes there are men who are givers but most guys don't want to see a guy serve a women's needs realistically. Many of us want to see a fantasy regardless of what women truly want or need in the bed room. Click to expand Men get enough fantasy. We all get enough fantasy. We are surrounded by so much fantasy and fiction that the only times we feel anything is when we sense the slightest moment of verisimilitude to life. When do we get to stop dreaming and wake up? When do we jack out instead of just jacking in and jacking off? Click to expand [Link]
slyloki Member I don't exist when you don't see me.. 22 Posts 8/12	Posted - Nov 11 2012 : 5:19AM David Cop-a-feel wrote: ^ Well, when your facing the bill collector,your choices become considerably less free. And if an actress has to be wary of "repercussions" or face intimidation, then doesn't this suggest a degree of misogyny in the industry? Edited by - David Cop-a-feel on 6/21/2012 6:43:24 AM Click to expand I think it's called an honest days work.. Not saying acting in porn isn't, but if you have bill collectors knocking on your door, would you get a job scrubbing toilets, or (extreme) take on a movie role where a horse loosens up your garbage disposal unit?! Responsibility for ones actions, living life to ones own moral compass, that is what shows character.. and frankly, any porn actress who doesnt, I don't care to watch... (yes you can tell) [Link]
The Ghost of Cal Jammer Senior Member 2207 Posts 7/09	Posted - Nov 12 2012 : 7:39PM Porn is a projection of the male sexual psyche. It is fantasy brought to life. Judging most mainstream porn, I would say most guys want to fuck a women 15 years younger than they are, stick their dick in her ass, and then cum in her face or her mouth. Is that misogynistic? I have no idea. But it sure as shit ain't love. That being said, I too worship the women in porn. I would do whatever they want in order to get within sniffing distance of their keister. The ones I really am I lust with, I would let them squirt in my mouth, piss on my face, punch me in the balls, etc., etc.. Is that misogynistic? I have no idea. All I know is that pornography is a lot more complicated than people give it credit for. [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Nov 13 2012 : 8:50AM NM Edited by - randomprecision on 11/13/2012 8:51:46 AM [Link]
spit roast Member 66 Posts 4/06	Posted - Nov 13 2012 : 11:09AM Porn is no more misogynistic than our (Western) culture as a whole. I would argue that it is rather less misogynistic than much mainstream media SR [Link]
coming soon Senior Member 1705 Posts 2/11	Posted - Nov 13 2012 : 3:03PM I had no idea that I hated Stoya, but thanks for telling me. [Link]
Gunzo Senior Member 1377 Posts 2/05	Posted - Nov 13 2012 : 3:42PM The Ghost of Cal Jammer wrote: Porn is a projection of the male sexual psyche. It is fantasy brought to life. Judging most mainstream porn, I would say most guys want to fuck a women 15 years younger than they are, stick their dick in her ass, and then cum in her face or her mouth. Is that misogynistic? I have no idea. But it sure as shit ain't love. That being said, I too worship the women in porn. I would do whatever they want in order to get within sniffing distance of their keister. The ones I really am I lust with, I would let them squirt in my mouth, piss on my face, punch me in the balls, etc., etc.. Is that misogynistic? I have no idea. All I know is that pornography is a lot more complicated than people give it credit for. Click to expand I agree with everything but the age-thingie -- I'd fuck women 15 years older than me too as long as they're decently hot and really like to fuck. Problem is people criticizing porn and for some weird moral stance refuses to watch it. Not exactly a scientific approach, but hey... what to expect when people believe in 'common sense' and/or any god they've been tought to believe in... [Link]
Myload Senior Member A rose is what you are to me 2069 Posts 6/03	Posted - Nov 14 2012 : 1:08AM slyloki wrote: But I accept others like a bit of liver. (with a nice chianti) Click to expand Don't forget the fava beans. [Link]
ControlFreak Member At the end of the day, it is what it is. 629 Posts 12/09	Posted - Nov 14 2012 : 3:53AM echoplex wrote: Don't know if I weighed in yet, but I think yes. Porn doesn't really care about women. Yes, there are some female-friendly brands. But most of it is by men, for men. It reduces women to body parts, fetishes, race/ethnicity, etc. Just about any scenario a guy could dream up, producers will have women lined up to make it so. It's not because those women love whatever that is, as much as it is they get paid for it, get some attention from it. It's a lot like prostitution. Porn uses people, men too, but especially women. Click to expand Wow! Porn is a lot like prostitution! Bumper sticker time! Kitchen magnet time! [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Nov 14 2012 : 11:33AM The Ghost of Cal Jammer wrote: All I know is that pornography is a lot more complicated than people give it credit for. Click to expand I don't really think so. I don't think it's any more complicated than the simple fact that men pretty much live for sex and masturbation (Though many people consider masturbation to be extreme perversion). This is what we're made for. It's pretty obvious. I don't know how so many people translate that to misogyny but it's bizarre. Edited by - randomprecision on 11/14/2012 11:35:52 AM [Link]

RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Nov 14 2012 : 11:38AM ControlFreak wrote: Wow! Porn is a lot like prostitution! Bumper sticker time! Kitchen magnet time! Click to expand Perhaps. But prostitution is just a made up word that now carries the negative connotations that have been assigned to it by all the asswipes through history who had various issues with it. I would imagine sex was one of the earliest forms of business. It would be more accurate to say that prostitution is a lot like business. Edited by - randomprecision on 11/14/2012 11:40:05 AM [Link]
BustdownGal Member 539 Posts 7/06	Posted - Jan 7 2013 : 1:31PM Most women experience orgasm through clitoral stimulation rather than through vaginal penetration While thrusting of the penis moves the labia about, it may not touch the clitoris, and given that some women have very small labia, this clearly does not offer a direct route to orgasm during intercourse Wouldn’t it be great if there was a “magic button” you could press to excite, thrill and completely satisfy her? Well, there is. It may not be as effortless as that, but it’s very real and just as exciting. We’re referring, of course, to the clitoris - the main source of her sexual satisfaction and something that you need to get damned well acquainted with (if you want her to ever scream your name, that is).... The clitoris exists to give her orgasms. That’s it - seriously. With more than eight thousand nerve fibers, it’s the only organ in the human body that exists solely for pleasure The majority of women, 70–80 percent for general statistics, require direct clitoral stimulation (consistent manual, oral or other concentrated friction against the external parts of the clitoris) to achieve orgasm Edited by - BustDownGal on 1/7/2013 1:43:53 PM [Link]
mrsmilford Member 6 Posts 12/12	Posted - Jan 7 2013 : 2:58PM spit roast wrote: Porn is no more misogynistic than our (Western) culture as a whole. I would argue that it is rather less misogynistic than much mainstream media SR Click to expand I'm going to quote this because this is almost exactly what I was going to post. [Link]