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Crucifixio_Jones
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Posted - Sep 4 2008 : 8:23PM
Yeah, maybe regular guys.
In general, maybe the average civilian guy is a letdown. But of the two performers who have been kindly enough to share their experiences in this thread, one said that a non-performer was the best sex she ever had and the other is very satisfied with the sex she has with her civilian husband. What's that tell you? It's not about being a civilian. It's about the individual person on BOTH sides of the equation. And there are exceptions to every rule. That was the entire point of my previous post: being in front of a camera a few times and cashing a check doesn't make you some sex goddess incapable of being satisfied by mere mortal men. That's bullshit.
So believe what you like and feel free to worry. But I won't be joining you. The same way your suspicions have been so-called confirmed, I've LONG AGO gotten and continue to get my personal validation (and I'm not implying in any way that this was from any pornstar, mind you). So I'm good. That'd be the LEAST of my worries. Especially since I don't have pornstar pussy flying at me from every angle enough to have it seriously concern me in the first place.
Also: Being a moderator doesn't give you license to call my "bah"s into question just yet, newbie. Title or none, you still gotta earn your CJ Stripes just like everyone else. And in case you were wondering, yes I am going to ride you about this moderator thing for a good long while before I let it rest.
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CJ you're awesome. A surprisingly high number of your posts provide both some good comedy (intentional comedy, that is - I'm not talking about making fun of you) AND something to think about. Nice work.
But that's as close as I'll come to sucking up. ;)
And I'm not saying that I'm worried about it. I know damn well that both being poor and living about 3000 miles from porn valley means that there isn't even the most remote possibility in the universe that I'll ever sleep with a porn girl, and I'm ok with that. But some dudes were wondering whether it might be tough to match up to porn studs with a porn girl, and the girls came on and said yes, it is tough. No one said it's impossible, and of course there are exceptions to the rule. I don't think anyone here would have ever doubted that. But if the guys are playing the odds, then it does look like there is some reason to be concerned when it comes to how they'll do with a porn girl. That's all I'm saying.
I would've called your - or anyone else's - "bah"s into question my first day here; and if you were to look back at my early posts (though I wouldn't recommend it, and I doubt you're all that interested anyway) I'm sure you'd see that I called people on their shit from day one.
"Tell you what- I'll call you on your shit, PLEASE CALL ME ON MINE. Then we can grow together and make this shit-hole planet better in time."
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Posted - Sep 4 2008 : 8:49PM
Huh. I figured I only got the job because you recommended me.
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Posted - Sep 4 2008 : 9:06PM
Lemme ask you a question then, bill.
Porn directors. I know PLENTY that get their fair share of Porn Valley's hottest pieces of ass. How do you explain that? No, they're not "civilians" but they're not onscreen performers, either. They date plenty of female performers so I'm guessing they're not a "letdown." Are they magically endowed with male talent confidence and abilities from simply holding a camera?
See, civilian guys? No worries.
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Posted - Sep 4 2008 : 10:09PM
^Well, there's a lot more going on there than just "civilian hooks up with porn girl".
A director, in many senses, is an authority figure to an actor (in porn as well as in mainstream). Pretty much every porn girl you ask says that they hope to do some directing one day, so a director is someone to look up to. That's money in the bank when it comes to getting into a girl's pants, in any industry. It's much like "boss dating employee".
This isn't a dynamic that exists with average joe. And it may help to make up for any shortcomings that the non-acting director could have in the performance department. Remember that how women feel about the man plays a lot into how much they will or won't enjoy their sexual experience. Well, we've both been saying that, I guess.
But if it comes down to just plain gettin' it on, when they're not so much trying to fall for the guy as they are trying to have some animal, earth-shattering sex, maybe they don't think of the director before the porn stud.
[edit: oh and I like your new avatar quote. Huge Sartre fan here.]
Edited by - killbillvol69 on 9/4/2008 10:11:21 PM
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Wonder if Porn stars know what civilians refer to them as..Johnies!!! Why oh why shud there be this demarcation line.Each oner has got a job to do and must do it well.So if the Johnies perform in uniform then the civvies 2 are doing equally well.But once the job is over n the pleasure time begins why carry ur work home? So porn stars are expected to be "Specialised Fuckers"(No pun intended)that's what they are paid for but that does not mean they carry their medals to bed.
Having Sex on camera with professional supervision is one thing & making out one 2 one is absolutely another.The frustration seeps in only when the pornstar actually carries invisible baggage in their personal life and expects their Bed Partner to be an extension of the Stud they Cream on Camera.
Even the Civilians fail to live upto the desire n demands only if they treat their Sex partner as someone with a Halo.The minute they are expected to perform knowing their love making is being observed they just may fail to be as gud as they normaly are.
But if the couple is mature n madly in love then all doubts shud be dispelled after the first kiss, the first thrust n if ur really a slow one then just maybe after the first bang. But like a learned lady from the profession mentioned so correctly every visit to a new restaurant may not be a mind blowing experience but then that's life you learn from experience.if you don't like it the first time then stick with your own circle else keep at it till you find the perfect civilian who can make you scream till you cream...and then take you to the next level.
One reason I guess why Pornstars prefer sex with civilians is because they're so used to being paid to fornicate with the Studs that doing it for free after work hours seems disappointing.Cud that be a possible reason?
Countries have already created barriers n borders to enter n exit...Now maybe I'd require a passport n visa to enter a porn star..what say?
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Posted - Sep 5 2008 : 8:16AM
Can somebody translate the above for me?
And the porn industry isn't the only industry where non-industry folks are refered to as civilians.
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Posted - Sep 5 2008 : 8:29AM
Yeah I think the poster is saying that in some countries a visa or passport is required to do anal....but I could be wrong.
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Posted - Sep 5 2008 : 8:53AM
No, I thought he meant porn stars don't take American Express.
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Posted - Sep 5 2008 : 10:24AM
I thought you were done sucking up? Awwwww.
Nah, I appreciate it. I change my avatar and quote so often (I generally have a weekly "theme"...last week was Rally Vincent from Gunsmith Cats) sometimes even I forget what I've written and why. It's a huge compliment that you even paid attention enough to notice.
But back on topic...
To me, porn or no porn, a girl is a girl and I treat them all the same. Not badly, I'm just saying, I don't think a girl's vocation, even if her trade is sex, is likely to scare me away or make me feel inadequate. I've been more sexually intimidated by civilian chicks that I see in my day-to-day life than I would be by some of the little girls I've seen on video.
You want to intimidate me? Bring back Ava Devine or Sandra Romain. But that's bascially it. Anyone else, I'm laughing.
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Posted - Sep 5 2008 : 10:36AM
I just had another thought, in a further effort to highlight, at least what I believe to be, the absurdity of this topic:
Does anyone here think civilian GIRLS are a letdown to MALE performers?
Because I can't imagine Mark Ashley, Brandon Iron, Michael Stefano, etc. banging some "regular" girl at home, cumming and then saying to himself, "That was aight...but she ain't no Angelina Valentine!" (Well, take that back...even *I* have sex in my normal life and subconsciously compare my partners to Angelina Valentine...but that's neither here nor there; it's a personal problem I'm not exactly seeking to rectify, either). But you get my point.
I see plenty of guys in the business date girls who aren't on the inside. After having sex on an almost daily basis with what everyone here seems to consider the cream of the crop of the human world of intercourse, you would think that a civilian girl wouldn't stand a chance. But that's not the case. So if the girls can obviously pass the test, why would someone question a regular joe's prowess in the sack? If a guy's that bad, chances are ANY woman is going to think he sucks, pornstar or not.
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Sorry Jacco that U require my thoughts translated.All that i meant about the passport-visa thing was that like you require both before getting on a plane n off it ..Similarly let there not come a time when a civilian wud require a passport or a visa (tourist,multiple entry,work permit or green card)before he cud make a legal entry into a porn star.
Even the porn star cud demand to see the papers b4 she allowed him free acess to her nook and cranny knowing that his credentials are impeccable.Imagine there being a panel of experts who look into the papers of a a POTENTIAL ASPIRANT b4 stamping if he/she is gud enough for a pornstar entry.
Just voicing my concern about dermarcation between stars n civilians.Why create these invisible no man lands. Why can't a pornstar be a messy lover or absolutely terrible in bed without instructions as to what is expected of him just as a civilian with ample training n experience can deliver the gud to satisfaction?
So let the bottom line be that anybody can be gud or bad..Period.
incidentally can someone enlighten me which country issues passport n visas to indulge in Anal Sex?
Jacco wrote:
Can somebody translate the above for me?
And the porn industry isn't the only industry where non-industry folks are refered to as civilians.
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Well I don't know... If you're a porn stud who's used to nailing girls who can take your 10" cock up their ass no problem, then yeah, I can imagine there are a whole fuck load of civilian girls that might be a letdown to you... like all the ones who say "there's no way you're putting anything that big inside of me"... and the ones who say "I don't do anal"... not to mention the ones who don't give blowjobs... or don't swallow or take facials... or don't let you do it with the lights on... or aren't even willing to take their tops off when they get it on (yes these girls exist)...
I mean shit I've felt like a lot of girls were letdowns... why wouldn't male performers feel that way too?
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Posted - Sep 5 2008 : 3:21PM
I like how you generalized all male performers as being guys who have huge dicks and like to fuck girls up the ass and anything less would be a "letdown." I'm not a guy packin' a 15" rod looking to scramble a girl's insides constantly by way of her anus but I imagine even if I were, just because I DIDN'T doesn't mean I'd always consider the sex disappointing.
Aren't there girls in porn who don't do anal? Don't give the best head? Don't swallow or take facials?
I don't know your personal history or track record but if you've encountered so many girls that have let you down, chances are you've encounted just as many who have pleasantly surprised you. Did they have to be pornstars to do it?
Sexual aptitude and performance have nothing to do with one's profession, even if your profession is fucking. I've seen plenty of girls on camera who were dead fucks that I wouldn't fuck with YOUR dick and I've fucked my share of "civilians" that'd SHAME nearly half of the girls that we DO see on camera that do it for a living.
I imagine the same goes for porn girls and civilian guys.
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^CJ my response was just about providing examples where a porn stud could feel let down by a civilian girl. In your post above it, you kinda made it sound like it could never happen, and I was trying to give situations where yeah, it could happen that a porn dude could be let down by a civilian girl in a way that he's much less likely to be let down by a porn girl.
For example, it's not very likely at all that the porn girl wouldn't be willing to get naked while having sex. I'd wager it's almost impossible that she wouldn't be willing to get naked if she does porn for a living.
But in the civilian world, there are actually a lot of girls like this. They don't like the shape of their tits or something, so even though they want to sleep with you, you're not gonna see the headlights.
That's just one way in which a random civilian girl is more likely to let down a porn guy than a random porn girl. Again, I'm not talking about absolutes here. I'm just saying, if the porn guy is weighing the odds in his head when he's considering sleeping with a particular girl, he should reasonably expect a better chance of seeing the girl's tits during sex if she's a porn star than if she isn't.
etc.
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You keep harping on this "getting naked" thing...
Now I'm not saying that girls that are shy or insecure about their bodies don't exist but good God, man...you're making it seem a LOT more common than it actually is.
I think alot of girls are naturally apprehensive the first time around but to NOT get naked? I'd say that's rare. I've had even the most conservative, old fashioned and religious girls surprise me with sexy lapdances on occasion. Hell, half the girls I know are hardly wearing anything when they ARE dressed.
If you can't even get the chick's clothes off, no, I don't expect the sex to be much better but how often is THAT really gonna happen?
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^Alright, alright, we're starting to go in circles here, but again, in my last post I was writing a longer version of just one of the six examples i gave in my post before it (and I'm sure I could have thought of more than six if I tried really hard BTW), because you didn't like one of the other ones.
Wanna try one of the others? (I know you do...)
Suppose you're a porn stud who's pretty substantial in the cock size department. You don't even have to be 10" or whatever; just significantly bigger than average when you factor in length and girth together.
I, who am definitely not bigger than average, have been with more than one woman who couldn't even get it in on the first try. And not virgins either. It sounds crazy, but I guess if they've only been with a tiny guy(s) until now, that's what happens. If you, as the porn dude with the big wiener, were to try sleeping with these girls, fuggedaboutit.
BUT if you were sleeping with a porn girl, you know you'd be able to fit it in, because likely a) you've fucked them before, and b) other porn guys, bigger than you, have fucked them before.
So again, if we're talking likelihoods, well you've got a 100% chance that the porn girl is gonna be able to take you; but something less than a 100% chance the non-porn girl can. How much less? I have no fucking idea. But it's less, and that's all I'm trying to say.
So maybe when you're out at a club one night and flirting with porn girl X and civilian girl Y, if everything else seems equal, and you want to get it on tonight, maybe when decision time comes, it's the porn girl you ask to go home with you. Because you don't want to have to help a girl to work up to being able to take you in her pussy on the fourth date - you just wanna get laid tonight[i/]. And if you think both girls are equally likely to want to sleep with you, but one is more likely to actually be able to fit you inside her special place, well then... that might be the girl you choose.
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You're infatuated with big dicks and naked chicks.
No wonder you're here.
You're talking about a bunch of issues that'd likely not happen. Meanwhile, I'm talking from the perspective that the sex has ALREADY happened. Forget the "she won't get naked, she can't handle me" BS that may or may not have happened in your own personal life. Assume the male porn performer has already fucked the fully-nude civilian chick. Who's to say he'd be disappointed just because she's not a pornstar?
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I think we (or, more accurately, you) just found the whole problem with this argument. You're right, we're arguing different things. How did that happen, I don't know. But it did, and now it has to end because I'm going to be late for my soccer game.
But just to be clear about one thing: I'm definitely not infatuated with big dicks, because I've often complained that the dicks they use in porn are too big, and I'd rather see some that are my size.
But infatuated with naked chicks: oh hell yeah. Guilty as charged.
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Bartleby: Well then, you know, don't use a gun. Just lay the place to waste-like.
Loki: Easy for you to say. You get off light in a razing. You got to stand there and read at Sodom and Gomorrah. I had to do all the work.
Bartleby: What work...did you do? You lit a few fires.
Loki: I rained down sulfur, man. There's a subtle difference.
Bartleby: Okay, I'm sure.
Loki: Hey, you know...fuck you, man. Any moron with a pack of matches can set a fire. Raining down sulfur is like an endurance trial. Mass genocide is the most exhausting activity one can engage in...
...next to soccer.
Enjoy your game, bill. But are moderators allowed to take extended leaves of absence to engage in real life? Aren't you needed here?
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killbill-
Instinct tells me that Mr. Jones might not have had to ponder if a girl would be able to physically handle him or not. That's just a speculation though.
Have you seen him? He's not very tall.
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Good thing you're only talking HEIGHT.
Fortunately for me, HEIGHT has nothing to do with being able to "handle" someone or not. Ask a dude like Shorty Mac for example.
And Hell, we're all the same height horizontal. I've done my fair share of girls who've had a few inches on me (most actually ended up being the same height sans footwear) and it didn't dampen a thing. Height is even less of a factor than a girl being a pornstar.
By the way, heels make good handles. I encourage all girls to wear'em if they got'em.
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I would think it would depend on the person. Honestly, I can't compete with guys like Max Hardcore. I don't even want to go there, and I imagine neither do most women. So if a woman is into sex that hardcore, I can't go there.
That being said, I've been watching porn so long that it takes alot to get me going. I find sex with most regular women to be boring. If they aren't into kink and roleplaying, I lose interest and just watch porn.
I've broken two beds and a futon fucking. I've fucked in laundry rooms, restrooms, theatres, cars, the woods playing faerie and satyr (that's a fun game), the bus stop, and with the door open at a woman's apartment so she could watch for her husband because he had ran to the 7-11 (I was a scumbag, what can I say. I regret it, but sometimes I can't help myself). I used to steam the windows of an entire apartment up. It was insane, but we looked at the windows after we were done and they were steamed to the point we could write pictures in the windows. It's crazy what you can do if you fuck for a long time. I buy toys and I've fucked women while adjusting a mirror just so I could see her pussy while we were screwing.
I suck toes, kiss with plenty of tongue play, analingus, rubbing and playing with the clit, different positions, I love to bang a girl's pussy with make her suck the fingers (that is so sensuous) and I don't quit until I've made them cum a few times because I derive very little pleasure from my own satisfaction. If I don't hear the woman's breathing grow erratic, her body tense up prior to cumming, don't feel the pussy convulsing and grow loose, her leg's shake or any number of tells (and don't go by moaning, that can be faked), my job is not done.
Personally, I have no doubt I could handle any pornstar that didn't need a huge dick. I'm adequate, but I ain't packing no meat like some of these pornstar guys. But I love to get my fuck on for hours and everything goes. I often come home on my lunch hour and get a half hour quickie on with my current woman. I can't get enough sex. There's very few feelings as nice playing with a woman until she cums and leaves her smell on you.
So it just depends on the person. If you're a boring fuck, you'll probably bore a pornstar. Or maybe they won't care. Because just like it depends on the person, it depends on the pornstar. For all we know some pornstars may be boring, sex by the numbers people in their normal life.
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I like bare feet best. Feet are so sensitive that I've met few women that don't respond to footrubs or a bit of tongue tickling while you're going at it. Completely naked, no makeup, no clothes, completely natural is how I prefer a woman.
 
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Me and A-ten is on the same page.
For all of you having trouble figuring out what the hell THE LIP1957 is saying...
I just tried to read a few of his posts and I was like, "Maaaan, this shit sounds MAD familiar..." I mean, as unintelligible as it is, I knew I had heard this particular brand of gibberish before.
He is, in fact, previously-deactivated user/banned poster (and somewhat creepy) dalipshandil who likes to refer to himself as "The Lip" (Dalip, get it?) I'm not usually a whistle-blower but he made ZERO attempt at disguising himself. But after reading a few of his posts, it also came as no surprise that he probably lacks that kind of cunning.
killbillvol69, wherever you are, now's the time to make your bones. I demand a re-ban.
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1. Is sex with civilians a letdown for pornstars?
Sometimes.
2. Is sex with pornstars a letdown for civilians?
Sometimes.
3. Is sex with civilians a letdown for civilians?
Sometimes.
4. Is sex with pornstars a letdown for pornstars?
Sometimes.
^^^
I think I've covered most of the possible permutations.
Now, on to our next topics: (1) How important is penis size? (2) Are all pornstars whores? (3) Do pornstars do it for the sex or the money? (4) What turns women on? (5) Which pornstar has the greatest tits ever?
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Bob said it all and then some and in a whole lot less time than I took to make my point (as per usual).
Thanks for that.
Next topic.
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well...
do people get into the adult industry because they're more freaky and better at sex than "civilians?"
or
do people become more freaky and get better at sex than "civilians" because they get into the adult industry?
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"do people get into the adult industry because they're more freaky and better at sex than "civilians?"
or
do people become more freaky and get better at sex than "civilians" because they get into the adult industry?"
Narcissus
I've found it works both ways. I think if you're at all sexually curious, you're going to explore, with or without the adult industry. But, the adult industry does provide a forum of equally curious people, and being there one feels more "allowed" to continue to explore and push their freak. I've found when "civilians" discover my connection to the adult industry they suddenly let their whole guard down, and I thus enable them to be true to their natural curiosity. Also, I have to add... sex with "civilians" rocks! A guy who knows how to fuck can hold any day job in my book. And I agree... it's easily told in the kissing, but also just the way he moves and carries himself.
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^Kat! Nice to see you! And I was going to say something similar to the first part of your post, I swear, but you said it better. :)
I've listened to/read various interviews with porn stars over the years that have told stories of both things happening. Girls who become much more freaky due to their experiences in the biz, and girls who got into the biz because it just made sense, since they were so freaky in the first place.
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Posted - Sep 7 2008 : 2:17AM
Nope. I've been with "civilians" that would give any "pornstar" a run for her money. Some girls have the sexual quality of a "pornstar" they just keep it "civil". If your lucky enough to find one, it helps keep the sex...just SEX.
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...just thought I'd add a different perspective.
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^Thanks a lot Mr Marcus! It's nice to hear about this from the male porn star's side too.
 
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yep. some girls are just "naturals", and thankfully... guys like Mr. Marcus will find them for us and put them on video.
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sometimes yes.
sometimes no.
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Do we have a brown-nosing or ass-kissing moderator emoticon here yet? If not, we should definitely get one. The need has very obviously arisen.
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TomChoad
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I Likes Ya
685 Posts
1/08
Posted - Sep 7 2008 : 11:52AM
When you enter into a scenario thinking you won't measure up, you're setting yourself up to fail.
I would like to believe that if a girl (any girl) chooses to sleep with a guy for no other reason than the fact that she likes him, it's a vulnerable position for her as much as it is for you.
If there are no cameras around, you may be surprised at just how "civil" she can be.
But that's just an opinion. I could be wrong.
MrMarcus
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Walk down and fuck them all.
181 Posts
7/08
Posted - Sep 7 2008 : 12:32PM
You left off "It's nice to hear about this from the male porn star's side too." self-editing Mr.Jones to push an agenda...that needs moderating.
Crucifixio_Jones
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4727 Posts
10/03
Posted - Sep 7 2008 : 1:36PM
I left off the bulk of his reply to Kat, too, in case you didn't notice. However, the content of the posts wasn't the point.
The point was that plenty of people here have said exactly what you two did but he didn't see fit to reply to any of them. Three guesses as to why and who knows, YOU might need all three.
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mindee
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If you don't break the rules, you'll never have any fun!
717 Posts
10/06
Posted - Sep 7 2008 : 4:36PM
I'm laughing so hard at this. I've been involved in the so-called "swing" community, and there are all sorts of screwed up people out there who will tell you that they're "into most anything" and then out comes the list of rules. You cannot imagine some of the wierdos out there in the "regular" world. It's truly hysterical. Someone will say..I love oral!...except, except, except..EXCEPT!! It's so fucking funny. As I mentioned in an earlier post, with the exception of my husband, I am much happier to have my sex in front of a camera. Let the civilians play with themselves.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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5516 Posts
3/03
Posted - Sep 7 2008 : 5:14PM
What -- no partner-sex for us?
mindee
Member

If you don't break the rules, you'll never have any fun!
717 Posts
10/06
Posted - Sep 7 2008 : 7:41PM
In your case I'll make an exception! ;-)
Kat Slater
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8/08
Posted - Sep 8 2008 : 12:08AM
Nice to see you again too, killbillvol69! I always enjoy your posts. And heck, I'd say hello to Mr. Marcus any day of the week too.
As to the topic... Mindee wrote....
"I'm laughing so hard at this. I've been involved in the so-called "swing" community, and there are all sorts of screwed up people out there who will tell you that they're "into most anything" and then out comes the list of rules. You cannot imagine some of the wierdos out there in the "regular" world. It's truly hysterical. Someone will say..I love oral!...except, except, except..EXCEPT!! It's so fucking funny. As I mentioned in an earlier post, with the exception of my husband, I am much happier to have my sex in front of a camera. Let the civilians play with themselves."
I completely understand the rush fucking on camera brings, and sure.... there isn't any "Except", as it's all mapped out ahead of time. But, I wonder if the "regular world" is your typical swingers party. I find a lot of people going to those are curious but not yet ready to dive in. I'm not sure they're "screwed up" just because they're not ready to go all the way. And i would never recommend or want to attend a swingers party where judgements were evident. I think this topic has a thought running through it that if you're not fucking anal in pile driver the sex sucks. CJ i did note you didn't say this. I think incredible sex is not about the circus gymnastics we often see on camera. And from all the porn girls who were ever gracious enough to share their personal stories with me, and many of them the crazy ho's you know and love, I've found there's nothing better than the emotional side of fucking for a woman. Mindee's obviously getting that from her husband, and I would guess part of fucking other men for her has a lot to do with the excitement in that relationship with her man. There is a reason, after all, the suit-case pimps are still around. (Not relating these guys to Mindee's husband at all.) But, you get a guy who will do at least a little bit of looking after his woman and is comfortable with not just his sexuality but the sexuality of his woman.... and who cares what label he dons.
I've worked with two porn studs I fantasized about fucking... Manuel Ferrera and Mr. Pete. But, personally, I wouldn't have been able to handle the "How was your day, honey?" answer. i know many girls get this from "civilians." (not all, many) I think "rules" are equally part of being open sexually... as what makes for great sex is honesty and communication. At at the end of the day... hopefully you love to fuck someone, or some people who go by the same "rules" as you do.
mindee
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If you don't break the rules, you'll never have any fun!
717 Posts
10/06
Posted - Sep 8 2008 : 4:03AM
Kat....
I wasn't referring to "newbies" in the swing world. I was talking about seasoned people who tell you that they are open to anything except, except, etc. As I said, I was involved with the swinging lifestyle, and no, you are correct, it doesn't have a lot to do with the regular world. Looking back on that post, I should have worded it a little differently.
My husband definately isn't my suitcase pimp. Many people here know that I am an RN by "day" and I do adult work when I can. My husband has his own career, and his part in it all is just support for what I like to do.
He is perfectly fine with what I do. There's a current post about "What if your wife was a porn star" Well, as I've said many times before, I'm no star, but I do not think you can do on camera sex, and not have a solid relationship with you husband/wife/significant other. It's just a recipe for disaster. We are both in a place where it works for us. I would never say that it's the right thing for someone else.
Yes, I like the rush and the excitement working in front of a camera. I enjoy it. It is the only reason I do it. If I someday find myself in a place where I am not enjoying what I do, it's over. In the largest sense, I don't do this for money. I do it for me. What money I make is cool, but it's not the major priority. I do it because it makes me happy to do it. No other reason.
monkey power
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Tim?
868 Posts
1/03
Posted - Sep 8 2008 : 6:54PM
To the original question,
if you've contracted them for a porn-style performance, they'll just perform the same as usual. Only they might notice they're the only performer in the room this time. But as part of the performance, they won't call you out on it. So that's one reason why their rates are set high. It's easier money, but tougher for them to maintain their normal exuberance level without busting up laughing at the absurdity.
if you happen upon a starlet and the two of you grow intimate like ordinary folk would, then they might not feel the need to perform as much, in which case you'd both be comfortable and bored.

Have you tried just eating some Cheese Nips?

oldguy
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1270 Posts
3/06
Posted - Sep 9 2008 : 9:17AM
Mindee, what a refreshing response. How does one get to the point where a person can separate recreational sex from sex with someone you really love?
I simply cannot do it but I do not know why, help me out here. The lady I love more than anyone else in the world I could not possibly ever touch sexually although she is very beautiful, why is this?
mindee
Member

If you don't break the rules, you'll never have any fun!
717 Posts
10/06
Posted - Sep 9 2008 : 3:03PM
Well to paraphrase Dr. McCoy from StarTrek "I'm a nurse..not a psychiatrist" I'm not sure what to tell you.
I can tell you that it works for us. For me, sex on camera is just that. I enjoy it, it almost always feels good, and I often orgasm. But you are right, it is recreational. I have never met anyone along the way, that I would think even for minute could replace my guy. We have no jealousy issues. I think we both enjoy the excitement that is involved. As I have mentioned not only here, but to others, doing this is not for everyone. It can be very injurious to a relationship. I am sure any one of the ladies who do adult work, and who post here would agree. I wish I had some sort of magic answer for you, I don't. I know that it works for me. I can also tell you that at an earlier point in my life, I am quite sure it would NOT have worked. In my opinion, the stars really need to line up for it to work as well as it does for me. Best wishes to you.
TeganLuv27
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23 Posts
11/08
Posted - Nov 15 2008 : 1:27AM
Thats what i was thinking why didnt they say non pornstar or something.Pornstars are civillians too.But sometimes cops,miltary and people in the mafia who arent in there profession call the others civillians.
Hoya
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338 Posts
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Posted - Apr 22 2012 : 2:03PM
When you only do porn for the orgasms, it has to be a bitter disappointment.
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