"All knowledge ultimately means self knowledge."--Bruce Lee 97 Posts 4/07
Posted - May 2 2007 : 1:09AM
Skronker is right, it's not pee, it's female ejaculate--I never bothered to look this up until now. http://www.libchrist.com/sexed/Gspot.html
"Ancient cultures accepted what we've only recently "found". As early as the 4th century B.C., writings have been found that speak of the distinction between a woman's "red and white fluid". Even American Indian folklore mentions the "mixing of male and female fluids" from a female during sex.While all women have a G-spot, it has been estimated between 10% and 40% of women are capable of ejaculation. The G-spot need not be stimulated for ejaculation to occur, but most women say that their first ejaculation experience came from massaging their G-spot. The response varies from a light sprinkle to a huge gush. I have experienced women who gushed huge amounts of fluid 10 feet out.
Researches have found that although many women feel a slight need to urinate right before ejaculation, the fluid is definitely not urine. Nor does it come from the Bartholin gland which produces a milky, odorless secretion that helps lubricate the vagina when sexually aroused.
Today we now know that the difference between women who squirt and those that don't is in the number and size of their pariurethral glands. They are analogous to the hundreds of tiny glands that constitute the male's prostate gland and are responsible for 15% to 50% of the fluid a man ejaculates.
The myths that female ejaculation is the result of poor bladder control, or excess secretion which sweats from the vaginal walls and pools in the back of the vagina to squirt out during the strong muscle contractions of orgasm, have been proven wrong. For decades many women felt it dreadfully abnormal and tried to hide or avoid it. Physicians in their ignorance tried to cure it. By questioning many women, researchers have established that about one woman in five ejaculates (through her urethra rather than her vagina), some of the time but not always. The stimulation of the G-spot produces both her ejaculation and her deep uterine contractions. "
I'd say it usually is. But you might as well ask is pooping really making brownies. Or vice versa.
Some folks will swear by it, but medical science shows absolutely no gland that secrets this squirt. Nor does it show a chocolate fudge producing organ in the butt area.
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Posted - May 2 2007 : 11:28PM
Just search in Google - or better yet, conduct some personal research.
"Squirt" is a mixture of fluid from the Skene's glands along the urethra (about a teaspoon's worth) with liquid from the bladder (up to a pint's worth or more).
But here's what all the argument should be about: the liquid from the bladder is almost pee, but not quite.
Women become aroused from stimulation of the g-spot and involuntarily flex muscles that extend from the vagina to the uterus and up to the bladder - and draw plasma from the bloodstream through the kidneys into the bladder very quickly and without the extra urinary by-products usually introduced by the kidneys over time. This liquid is then expelled through the urethra during ejaculation.
The ejaculate comes from the bladder (duh, consider that it sometimes amounts to a pint of liquid), but it is an extremely dilute form of urine seemingly created during sex just for the purpose of flooding the outside of the vagina.
Yeah, technically it's "pee", but it has a very different dynamic of origin and purpose than pee. And it has a distinctly different chemical composition, sometimes being measurably indistinct from blood plasma.
Even medieval theologians considered its useful function in promoting female excitement and conception.
Why is this debate still going on? Doesn't anyone have any personal experience with this? Hasn't anyone looked into the scientific research?
Experiment with this yourself if you're a woman or a have an ejaculatory woman who wants to investigate this with you. Urinate just before sex, then see how quickly you can bring yourself to the point at which you ejaculate. You'll find that it is much, much quicker than the time it usually takes you to feel that you have to "pee" normally. And you'll end up damned thirsty too.
This whole argument must be part of the old, juvenile virgin vs. whore European obsession, in which female orgasm must be somehow "dirty" or "fake". Whatever.
You know , I dont know care if its fake squirting, real pussy squirting or pissing, as long as theres more hardcore xxx-rated all-girl lesbian fetish videos that involve some form of watersports action, im satisfied :)
Today theres like a million squirt videos out there and not has really involved some good lesbian sex ...are you telling me the porn studios ( vivid, filmco, jm, elegant angel, wicked, new sensations, red light district ) cant make one decent lesbian squirt movie ??? maybe throw in some hot strap-on dildo fucking and lots of wet pussy play and more squirt/piss lesbian facials and drinking orgys??
Theres seems to be a real prejudice against lesbians in todays pornos and squirting is just one example of how corrupt and exploitive the adult entertainment industry has become when it comes to a sensitive issue as womens reproductive health....squirting is as natural as sleeping..all women do it, its not piss....but the irony is with the movies that have lots of pissing, why is it never lesbians drinking piss? or pissing bukkake ? or strap-on fucking that ends with squirting or pissing all over other hot girls?? Forget the issue of squirting, lets focus on hardcore lesbian porn :)
The woman's body is extraordinarily complex, that was my meaning. Considering that we bleed monthly, why would it be so difficult to imagine that we have a gland that, when stimulated, will produce a fluid that enters the bladder and is thereby excreted from the bladder?
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Posted - May 3 2007 : 4:11AM
I agree with you - and I know that there are glands that produce measurable excretions that are mixed in with the ejaculate.
I'm just saying that medical studies, involving chemical analysis of large amounts of ejaculate (not the small amounts identified as coming from the Skenes gland, et al), indicates that it has a chemical signature similar to that of urine - but a very very dilute urine. It's almost as if it is more blood plasma than urine, but it does seem to have come through the bladder and probably through the kidneys as well.
And I have never had any problem with it, personally. In fact, men seem to be sexually excited by the faint scent of women's urine or pheremones therein.
Who knows - there could still be mystery glands inhabiting those regions that will someday explain everything....
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Posted - May 3 2007 : 4:53AM
You know, I hate it when people tell me what makes me get off doesn't even exist. Doesn't that mean people doubt my very orgasms? Makes me feel like a woman, but not in a good way. Or like the pope shitting on a catholic bear in the woods when nobody's there to hear the sound. Well, almost.
Panties - maybe not the best thing in the world, but next to it.
Squirting is very arousing and I LOVE to watch it! I have seen a lot of squirt-themed movies, and I can't see that this is pee. It's liquid nectar from the goddesses!!!
The Floating World: Porno News and Events 25 Posts 2/03
Posted - May 3 2007 : 2:49PM
I never said it didn't exist - I've had it in my face, over my shoulder, in my mattress with all of my girlfriends (and quite a few others) over the past fifteen years....
Just I was just passing on some info from medical research I've read...
And I don't consider it to be urine at all. Imagine what my old futon would have smelled like after being soaked nightly for years....it certainly didn't smell like a wino's mattress in an alley (please take my word for that).
And there's something to be said for the spongy-tissue theory as well - especially since drawing your fingers over some girls' swollen g-spots can sometimes almost mechanically draw out a spurt....
I should have watched my tone in my original post - sorry.
"All knowledge ultimately means self knowledge."--Bruce Lee 97 Posts 4/07
Posted - May 3 2007 : 4:10PM
And it should be obvious to anyone who has had the pleasure of a lady that squirts that it is not urnine--it is a clear liquid and never the color of urine.Yes, Lexi, it is a cavalier king charles. It is not mine. I do volunteer work for a non-profit that rescues puppies from puppy mills. The group places the puppies with foster families until a home can be found. I've fostered a chin and a pomeranian right now. I sent you an email too. Also, there is a good interview clip you did on youtube that I enjoyed watching. Thanks, Lexi
Yeah, but have you ever seen how much water porn actresses who "squirt" drink before a shoot? I've seen Tianna Lynn down a 2 litre jug of water in one BTS scene. That would be why it isn't yellow like urine, it's diluted by the water. To each their own for believing it. I believe some women do, but doubt many of the porn actresses actually do.
TerriRedor wrote: "I should have watched my tone in my original post - sorry."
No worries babe. I just knew that you had misinterpreted my point. Thanks for posting researched facts. I learned about the Skene's glands from "Talk Sex With Sue Johanssen" and "Playboy Advisor".
I can't seem to reply to a post for some reason, which is pissing me off, ironically with this topic. Forgive the cut-n-pasting...'Google' research is great if you want to find out if Sinbad is dead. Not good for much else.Absolutely true. I wish you had stopped here.This is where you start doing what is called in the medical community 'making shit up'. There aren't muscles that go from the vagina to the bladder. The kidneys filter across a tubule using a salt gradient to hold sodium, with some active transport in and out of the urine. No 'muscle flexing' is involved. You can change the concentration of the components of urine with diuretics, or by drinking a lot of water, or sodium, or protein, but not by flexing your vag.Technically, and in every sense of the word, it is pee. You don't have a direct serum-kidney-vagina link
I understand the fantasy that the believers have about squirting, it would be great if woman could squirt! but in reality they dont! it is just marketing nothing more and quite farnkly its embarresing to watch and think that some people beliieve these over the top screaming orgasms.
The poeple that belive (in my opinion) are americans! thats becuase they believe what the american porn market throws at them. In europe we dont have many companies producing squirt films, because weve had them for years but marketed without any prentense as watersport films.
I suggest that the belivers should try to open their minds to watersports, its far more satisfying to watch without the rediculous acting of the screaming orgasms. a good place to start would be http://www.patches.net/
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florida 218 Posts 2/07
Posted - May 6 2007 : 2:36PM
Maybe Im repeating the question that has already been asked and answered: clarify for me: does the SQUIRT originate in the BLADDER? Or does the G-Spot,(in some womne, not all women) release ejaculate into the female urethra? Seems to me the G-Spot in some women could actually extend thru the thin membrane that separates the vaginal cavity with the urethra, thereby The G-spot could be found in both places in some women. consider how many times some pornstars quirt in a video. and consider they rub themselves and maturbate to squirt. how could it be pee? Does the bladder continuously make that much pee?
The bladder doesn't make pee. It holds pee. The kidneys make pee, send it down the ureters to the bladder where it is stored. Little random bits of glandular tissue exist around the urethra and may make a bit of fluid. Not much. Just a bit. Not enough to hit the camera man. The rest of it is urine from the bladder. Pee, stop, pee some more, stop. Repeat as needed for scene. Not my thing, but hey, its OK to be turned on by pee.
For all the people who think its pee... Start having intercourse :) I have mastered the squirt business...nobody can pee like that.. and like the lady said..it feels much better than taking a piss.. I have had girls shaking and mumbling for minutes untill they finally got back to normal after the squirting.. Even if it was pee..(which it isnt..only comes out the same hole as pee) but even if it was..who cares? Its for the womens ecstasy and i am allways willing to please :P Porn has maid me a real-life pornstar :PPP p.s. for the sceptic women..moments before squirting you will feel like you could pee..go with the flow..relax..and never have sex without it again :)
Exacly - and when you see 'squirting' in porn films it's PINTS of water flooding out - the girl remembering to rub her clit and say 'Oh I am cuming' is what's known as 'acting'.
I'm willing to accept that in real-life situations women can ejaculate a tiny amount of fluid from this Skene's gland, but anytime you see a girl in porn spraying pints from her pee-hole then, suprise suprise, it's pee. :)
Again...there CAN be big ammounts of fluid..it depends on how u do it and the way the perticular womans body is..if you block the path with ur fingers and still manage to make pressure on the "G" it can explode.. My personal record is 2 yards :)...no piss trust me.. In theory many things r complicated to understand and discuss..get info on how to get the job done, and try it yourself..takes practice and not all girls have the looseness to go through with it..but with patience its possible..no doubt about it..
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sam46 Deactivated User
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Posted - May 17 2007 : 5:19PM
It's not physically possible.
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Posted - May 17 2007 : 5:45PM
Have we reached the end of porn posting? Is there no more to discuss?
My god, how many threads do there need to be on this subject?
Here is a tip to all newbies and the clueless, use the "search" link and seach on "squirt" - you get 3403 posts.
Add "Squirters" and you get another 340 posts going back to 2001.