Basically, GONZO and GG were the only two constants who were selling scenes on LP/AV.

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The fact that 2 large EU studios have now given up within 2 years is quite a statement.

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For producers like GG, this actually means a never-ending treasure trove of pretty girls. In recent years, it has primarily been the Czech Republic, earlier, in the 90s/00s, this applied to Hungary. Because of the different economic situation in Eastern Europe compared to Central Europe, for example, the porn industry was a lucrative employer for the girls. But the economic situation in Eastern Europe has stabilized somewhat in recent years, giving girls a better career alternative in their own country. At the same time, there is a shortage of skilled workers in Central Europe in some jobs, which is another alternative. And then there is OF.

So girls from the former Eastern Bloc have many more alternatives than girls 20 or 25 years ago. Because back then it was often porn or living in poverty/poorly paid jobs. And since the Russian war of aggression has also cut the pipe line to Russia, a producer like GG finds himself saying - I can't find any more girls. And if you go one step further and look at the girls who shoot for the Vixen Group, you can also get the impression that 70% of them are girls from Eastern Europe. You could be forgiven for thinking that there are also "new blood worries" in the States. And the girls there have even more alternatives.

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You have one mainstream site to showcase the pornstars. You bring the users from that site to your cam-site/ tube site i.e. Pornhub, where you charge a subscription to users so that they can interact on a more personal level with the pornstar, as on Onlyfans. These sites have some of the highest amounts of traffic on the internet. With the huge amount of web traffic, you should be able to generate interest from companies looking to market on your website.

To me, this is a strategy that would work for the mainstream porn industry. Yet, it does not seem to be implemented.

On one hand, these companies have multiple websites, with all these no-name pornstars, that more than likely do not generate a ton of revenue. Yet since many of the companies that own these sites are registered in tax havens (which is also a problem), they can operate with less attention from regulatory authorities, which is what these owners prefer.

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I suspect most studios started to advertise on Mindgeek sites not because they wanted to but because they would rather get a few pennies on the dollar than nothing at all. At no point in the history of porn industry as Mindgeek been good for the industry. Good for itself and great for anyone who doesn't want to pay for porn but never once good for the industry.

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If Studio Porn losing the war means the end of all the slimy tricks the porn companies/distributors have been using for decades, to chisel extra dollars from the consumers, that would be a good thing. In the old days it was box-cover models not appearing in the actual video and looped content within scenes, among other things. These dodgy moves have met their demise as technology advances and porn consumers become a bit more empowered via internet-driven information acquisition and sharing. Nevertheless this has merely shifted the goalposts as far as the porn industry is concerned. So now we have:

(i) Endless recycled content. Example - Dillion Harper only ever made one daddy porn scene (a strip poker scenario with Alec Knight) - however if you search 'Dillion Harper, Family Roleplay, Older Men' in a pay for porn VOD website you could be forgiven for thinking that the bountiful Dillion may have made half a dozen or more such scenes. This is totally on the Studio. Ms Harper got paid a flat fee for her single performance.

(ii) Paying for stuff when it could be free. If, like me, you are a member of a pay for porn aggregator website and you have taken up the option of paying a monthly premium to access a decent proportion of the website's content for free, you will still be scammed - and I don't mean via the fact that a decent proportion of all porn is crap and paying for that is foolish. No, consistent with the endless recycling of content, is that such scenes are being 'newly' released from time to time and these scenes, as 'new releases', are often pay per view. Nevertheless there are times when I can search the content available to me for free on the website and the same scene will be free to view. To a large extent this is on the consumer to 'beware' - and porn consumers need to 'beware' more than most. However, at times this requires an encyclopaedic knowledge of porn to suspect a recent PPV scene is possibly freely available; moreover it also speaks to the way the porn industry seeks to keep the consumer disempowered by limiting information. In the instance I have described an aggregator operating with goodwill would provide me, as a member who has paid the monthly premium, with the information that a scene, for which I might be paying to view, is actually available to me for free. This could mean the website would have to change its algorithms. Possibly this is an issue of cost but more likely the porn aggregator has no intention making things less financially risky for the consumer, because.

(iii) .as a member of a pay for porn VOD aggregator website, I should be able filter my porn searches by what/who I didn't like, but I can't. I can only imagine the porn industry already knows in its heart how little of its abundant content is actually liked by porn consumers, so allowing said consumers to filter away all scenes that are for genres they don't like, or mopes that are unwatchable, would mean that the number of eyeballs staring at Teen Fidelity box covers would fall off a cliff and whatever deal the aggregator has going with the Studio would be jeopardised. Although there may be 100s of millions of porn consumers worldwide we're all niche viewers.

Pornographers would like to think that all the dodginess inherent in their MO is just edgy free-market stuff and that it's up to each participant in the eco-system to keep an eye out for #1. BS. Porn, definitively, exists at the edge of convention and operates in the shadows - open-ness and transparency, critical features of a free-market, are absent. The amount of time wasted by a consumer trying to find and access decent content, legitimately, is criminally inefficient - mainly because the pornographers and their apparatchiks are deliberately opaque, misleading and deceitful.

If there is little sympathy for porn studios amongst porn consumers it is because their practices have never invited support. For a long time they held the monopoly on the production of pornography and we, the consumers, just sucked it up. The changing porn content production landscape still probably hasn't benefited the consumers - it's just given more scope to new rip-off artists.

Back to the OP - clearly I agree with a lot of it. However, I would say that way more than a few people would pay for high-end content. And by high-end I don't mean the banal VMG stuff. Any porn scene that starts with a voiceover screams lazy - inevitably the sex is as disengaged as the narration.

And because posts are always better with pics.

This is a scene involving Michelle Lay and Belle Bond (aka Nikki Cruz). It was recently released by Sweetheart Video in a compilation Best Of Legends & Starlets. The scene is available for purchase at Adult DVD Empire for $4.99 USD. If you are an Adult DVD Empire Unlimited member you could watch the scene for free on the video Legends & Starlets Volume 4, but the website itself would provide you with no clue of that. Recycled content. Opaque information.

Porn: the same rip-off as 40 years ago, just different tricks. I pay for it so I can complain.

Edited by - Sexy Sadie on 8/1/2024 7:06:15 PM

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The reason why AI might ruin *both* of these is, eventually, I as an individual will have the ability to have AI produce a video based on *any* prompt I give it. If I want a video similar to those listed in my Your Porn That Doesn't Exist Wishlist thread, all I'll have to do is prompt it using Midjourney-like terms and it will render a video containing the acts I desire. The *only* difference is that *the girls aren't real* but I'm not convinced (at least yet) that most people will desire porn with real actors over a video that perhaps fits their desires better but are realistically-rendered graphics. Maybe the future will prove me wrong. (And, one reason to think I'm wrong is that clearly there are some people out there who are paying for OnlyFans and thinking they're chatting with the real actor/actress, and if it was found to be AI it would surely be far less enticing to most.)

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In my opinion, AI porn will change pornography completely independently of studios.

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I don't see AI ruining porn truthfully, think of any search term you've typed into Google or any other search engine and watch the ripple effect on the ads you get or offers presented to you. AI porn will be very much the same way which is why I said AI will know more about what every viewer wants than they do and will be able to arrange more perfect scenes to cater to every taste.

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Dumb cartoonification is one of the biggest problems in the GG genre specifically, especially in the stuff that gets produced stateside. I can't wait to be able to generate videos with American-looking women appearing to have unbridled physically intimate sex. It won't matter that the videos aren't real considering that studio and OF porn producers almost never create candid human behavior content with the actual living people. If the actual people look fake most of the time - and with the mandated cartoon acting; the visibly not enjoying what they are doing from most performers; and the silly Pornhub-driven surgical alterations, things do look generally extremely fake - what's the material difference between real and A.I., outside the idea and *ideal* of employing people?

Less employment is really the only drawback, assuming video generators will eventually achieve fidelity.

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