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| research1 Deactivated User 156 Posts 7/15 |  Posted - Aug 20 2015 : 10:05AMI honestly can't think of a time when there were so many top BF performers working at the same time and getting a lot of attention. Older fans might remember but I seriously can't, judging from the 2000s till now. RoundandBrown and BlackGFs probably deserve some of the credit. [Link] |
| 2bollocks Senior Member 3588 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Aug 20 2015 : 10:06AM [Link] |
| research1 Deactivated User 156 Posts 7/15 | Posted - Aug 20 2015 : 10:09AM [Link] |
| 2bollocks Senior Member 3588 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Aug 20 2015 : 11:00AM [Link] |
| research1 Deactivated User 156 Posts 7/15 | Posted - Aug 20 2015 : 11:08AM [Link] |
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| 2bollocks Senior Member 3588 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Aug 20 2015 : 11:12AM [Link] |
| research1 Deactivated User 156 Posts 7/15 | Posted - Aug 20 2015 : 11:18AM Edited by - research1 on 8/20/2015 11:19:14 AM [Link] |
| terroboyd Member 16 Posts 2/10 | Posted - Aug 20 2015 : 1:24PM I think there's a lot more money for them post porn in stripping and appearances post porn This is definitely the golden age for black male performers though IR sites like Blacked have pretty made it possible for the same 4-6 guys to corner the market and be in everything. [Link] |
| research1 Deactivated User 156 Posts 7/15 | Posted - Aug 20 2015 : 1:42PM [Link] |
| leatherface Senior Member 1258 Posts 7/07 | Posted - Aug 20 2015 : 1:50PM [Link] |
| research1 Deactivated User 156 Posts 7/15 | Posted - Aug 20 2015 : 1:51PM [Link] |
| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | Posted - Aug 20 2015 : 2:20PM Are you serious? It's one thing for you to say that something like Cuckold Sessions is homoerotic, but what exactly is "gay" about the scenes on Blacked? Edited by - misspornUSA on 8/20/2015 2:21:09 PM [Link] |
| research1 Deactivated User 156 Posts 7/15 | Posted - Aug 20 2015 : 3:05PM http://photos.freeones.com/v_various/Blacked/Valentina_Nappi_001/ You think straight men are all about a dude's butthole hiked up in the air and displayed for the camera? That is some gay shit right there, to suit their audience. [Link] |
| research1 Deactivated User 156 Posts 7/15 | Posted - Aug 20 2015 : 3:07PM [Link] |
| darthroc Member 754 Posts 4/14 | Posted - Aug 20 2015 : 8:16PM [Link] |
| Foobachi Deactivated User 251 Posts 4/13 | Posted - Aug 21 2015 : 4:13PM The very, very few who are closer to fit, clean, with nice skin and hair and well kept appearances tend to be very vanilla in their performances, being cum dodgers, anal dodgers, and kind of boring to watch. Very rarely does a black female possess all the qualities that the vast majority of white, Latina, and Asian females do in porn. [Link] |
| Rosco Fuji Deactivated User On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09 | Posted - Aug 22 2015 : 11:29AM [Link] |
Goldstein  All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Aug 22 2015 : 8:26PM [Link] |
| Mass Facialties Deactivated User "Facialized Vol. 7" 2021 AVN Awards Winner: Best Oral Movie 9308 Posts 9/13 | Posted - Aug 24 2015 : 3:13AM As for Asian girls...I'd refer to that situation as a "great depression" today.  [Link] |
| 2bollocks Senior Member 3588 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Aug 24 2015 : 8:40AM [Link] |
| Rosco Fuji Deactivated User On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09 | Posted - Aug 24 2015 : 11:45AM [Link] |
| 2bollocks Senior Member 3588 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Aug 24 2015 : 11:55AM [Link] |
| fredgee Deactivated User 350 Posts 12/13 | Posted - Aug 24 2015 : 1:07PM [Link] |
| 2bollocks Senior Member 3588 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Aug 24 2015 : 1:09PM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Aug 24 2015 : 1:43PM I'd like a definition of "golden age" though , an era with an high number of stunning black beauties? an era with incredibly capable and nasty performers? An era with a great number of superstars? an era with the highest number of scenes with black girls? as for the stars, he failed to mention the one true superstar of that era Heather Hunter or in our current era Skin Diamond for both it has never been a matter of getting covers, they were both on the covers because them being in a movie boosted the sales of such movie and the producer wanted to make sure the customers saw them hence the covers they were given , more importantly they were stars even in non racially related productions , they were overall true stars. There were a lot of great performers back then , Jeannie Pepper , Janet Jacme , Monique, Midori , anal queens even Today we have those mentioned plus Ana Foxxx and the veteran Misty Stone , Ana works randomply but had and still has the potential to be a star But I could mention some who are beautiful but less known Serena Ali (i can't believe how many don't know her) , Ivy Sherwood and a plethora of one and done starlets [Link] |
| fredgee Deactivated User 350 Posts 12/13 | Posted - Aug 24 2015 : 1:46PM [Link] |
| Rosco Fuji Deactivated User On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09 | Posted - Aug 24 2015 : 7:28PM Edited by - rosco fuji on 8/24/2015 7:31:36 PM [Link] |
| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Aug 24 2015 : 11:20PM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Aug 25 2015 : 2:56AM I didn't mention the Europeans here, but Lydia Chanel and Charlene Robben were superstars here , Jeannie Pepper too as she worked for ms Orlowsky [Link] |
| geralt Member 495 Posts 7/11 | Posted - Aug 25 2015 : 4:04AM I think that the industry needs some really hot black girls, who does lots of anal, dps, daps, gangbangs etc. I've grown so tired of the fact that interracial is always a black man and a white woman, I think it's much hotter the other way around =) [Link] |
| Rosco Fuji Deactivated User On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09 | Posted - Aug 25 2015 : 8:43AM [Link] |
| 2bollocks Senior Member 3588 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Aug 25 2015 : 9:33AM [Link] |
| Mass Facialties Deactivated User "Facialized Vol. 7" 2021 AVN Awards Winner: Best Oral Movie 9308 Posts 9/13 | Posted - Aug 25 2015 : 11:14AM I'd say Skin Diamond was a black girl who reached "superstar" status in porn. Of course, she was mixed, but black nonetheless. In regards to what Rosco Fuji has been arguing, I tend to agree with what he's saying-just because you can rattle off a couple names from a given era doesn't mean that black girls "were big" during that time. [Link] |
| fredgee Deactivated User 350 Posts 12/13 | Posted - Aug 25 2015 : 11:27AM [Link] |
| 2bollocks Senior Member 3588 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Aug 25 2015 : 11:27AM [Link] |
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| Quorrl Senior Member 2835 Posts 3/11 | Posted - Aug 25 2015 : 3:52PM [Link] |
| Rosco Fuji Deactivated User On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09 | Posted - Aug 25 2015 : 9:32PM [Link] |
| Rosco Fuji Deactivated User On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09 | Posted - Aug 25 2015 : 9:35PM [Link] |
| smooth91 Member A smooth operator, operating correctly. 445 Posts 1/14 | Posted - Aug 25 2015 : 10:32PM Second, to address the topic, this is absolutely far from a golden age for Black performers. As a Black man myself, the current state of Black female performers is completely disappointing for a multitude of reasons. 1. Each of the girls I mentioned above did everything: anal, DPs, everything. There aren't any current Black anal queens. For me, who's "no anal, no watch", I can't even comment on the performance-level of current Black performers because hardly any of them do anything outside of vanilla scenes. And the few who do anal and other things do it for low-rate studios that I don't watch and they don't get booked by the big-name companies. 2. During the 2000s there were multiple Black directors and producers. L.T., Justin Slayer, Alexander DeVoe, Diana DeVoe, Lex Steele, etc. were all directing for big-name studios and they were all committed to creating platforms for which Black performers can become stars. Nowadays it's pretty much just Mimefreak and Lex who are directing for big-name studios. The lack of Black directors plays a huge part in the lack of Black stars. 3. There is an incredible amount of Black performers who choose not to shoot scenes with Black male talent. I find this baffling, I don't know what goes into this decision. I have absolutely no problem with WM/BF scenes and movies, but as a Black man, a Black performer who for some reason refuses to shoot with Black male talent just upsets me (mainly because I don't understand the possible reasoning behind it) and it makes me not want to watch them at all. 4. This is mainly personal preference, but all of the girls I mentioned above (except for Marie Luv) had voluptuous body-types, which in my opinion helped contribute to their star-power. The last true Black star was Skin Diamond, and I've never watched one scene of hers because her body-type didn't appeal to me. Again, this is purely personal preference and I'm sure this might not matter to most people, but there aren't many Black performers nowadays who can even compare body-wise to the performers of the past. There are performers today like Ana Foxx, Teanna Trump, Cassidy Banks, and Lisa Tiffian who have caught my eye, but not one of them is a true star yet. Out of all the reasons I listed above, I think it really comes down to the lack of studios and directors committed to promoting a true Black star. I think it's up to us as fans to keep requesting more and more Black performers, not just for "ebony" movies, but for movies in general. Only then can we hope to return to the golden age of Black female stars. [Link] |
| Quorrl Senior Member 2835 Posts 3/11 | Posted - Aug 26 2015 : 6:23AM - Number of box covers: No - Number of scenes: No So what else then? Other statistical categories (e.g. awards etc.)? Or is it more emotional aka "I know a star when I see it"? According to your sports analogy, Hall Of Fame membership? [Link] |
| 2bollocks Senior Member 3588 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Aug 26 2015 : 6:29AM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Aug 26 2015 : 12:17PM [Link] |
| Rosco Fuji Deactivated User On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09 | Posted - Aug 26 2015 : 10:09PM As far as being on the box covers, numerous porn sources have been quoted over time saying that box cover girls break off a slice for the director in exchange for the covers. As far as number of scenes shot, this doesn't qualify either as it's been proven that black females have been paid less than white girls, so if you have a 5 scene disk with 2 big names, the final 3 scenes are the B Listers that are little more than filler. As far as what makes a true porn star, it's easy. You know it when you see it. It's the "it" factor, a unique look, an enthusiasm, something a little different or eye catching, a willingness to go all out for a scene, it's something that makes you seek out more releases from that performer. It's the kind of performer that if you walked into a porn convention, you'll seek out immediately because you know the line will be long, then when you see how long the line is, you'll seek out lesser names as a time killer, then come back around to the true star. Examples of girls who have what I describe in the previous paragraph; Bonnie Rotten. Keri Sable, Alina Li, Sunrise Adams. Bonnie was a huge star the minute she was open for business. Unusual look, a do anything repertoire, and a true gusto, that created such a buzz immediately that she rocketed to the front to the line. Keri Sable hasn't been around in 10 years and people still talk about her and commiserate her departure. Alina Li had a very unique appeal was another that her abrupt departure had people literally crying on this site. Think back to when you saw Sunrise Adams for the first time in those Anabolic VHS tapes looking up into the camera ever so sweetly. You're thinking, this is a sweet looking girl with a smooth as honey southern drawl, then she blows 5 guys and swallows the baby batter. You're smitten right away. When was the last time you said anything like that about about any of those black girls? [Link] |
| Mass Facialties Deactivated User "Facialized Vol. 7" 2021 AVN Awards Winner: Best Oral Movie 9308 Posts 9/13 | Posted - Aug 27 2015 : 1:17AM Again, I'm in agreement. It's ridiculous how everyone is referred to as a "pornstar" nowadays. Ideally, the term should be reserved for those who are truly stars.  [Link] |
| murdock Member I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV 911 Posts 4/06 | Posted - Aug 27 2015 : 2:52AM Jenna Jameson was a porn star not because she was a big deal in porn, but because she was a big deal outside of porn. Kim Kardashian is a reality TV star not because she was a big deal in reality TV, but because she was a big deal outside of reality TV Justin Bieber is a pop star not because he's a big deal in pop music, but because he's a big deal outside of pop music. LeBron James is a basketball star not because he's a big deal in basketball, but because he's a big deal outside of basketball. That of course is just my opinion and others will differ I'm sure. [Link] |
| Quorrl Senior Member 2835 Posts 3/11 | Posted - Aug 27 2015 : 6:42AM I'm not disagreeing with a lot you said. All the statistical stuff is problematic, you explain that very well. Probably I myself would also think, there must be something beyond stats, something that I sense with my emotions/instinct as unique or special... (how I call that special quality, "star" or "superstar" or whatever, is not so important to me). So it's not because of disregard for your position, when I point out to one "problem" of it: if there are objective criteria (e.g. number of this & that, HOF membership etc.) you have a common ground for discussion with others. There is still room for different opinions, cause you can weigh these factors in different degrees and argue why one factor counts more or not. If it's mostly or all about the subjective "it factor", there's no common ground. It's either - or; either you see/feel it or you don't. If you see it for e.g. Alina Li and I don't, that's the end. Neither can I convince you that your subjective feeling is not correct, nor can you convince me about my subjective view that e.g. Marie Luv was a star. It would make no sense to try to argue about it. It's okay to "agree to disagree" at such a point, of course. [Link] |
| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | Posted - Aug 27 2015 : 10:36AM Here are the only objective criteria Rosco offers: 1. She has a unique look. 2. There are long lines to see her at porn conventions. All the rest of his criteria can be summarized as "Who's a "true" star? Why, whoever I believe to be one!" Where does that get us? To a place where Alina Li is a star, but Jada Fire and "maybe" Skin Diamond are merely "standouts." The words "true" and "truly" do not apply here. [Link] |
| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | Posted - Aug 27 2015 : 10:37AM [Link] |
| fredgee Deactivated User 350 Posts 12/13 | Posted - Aug 27 2015 : 10:38AM [Link] |
| Rosco Fuji Deactivated User On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09 | Posted - Aug 27 2015 : 2:12PM Edited by - rosco fuji on 8/27/2015 11:27:21 PM [Link] |
| 2bollocks Senior Member 3588 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Aug 27 2015 : 2:17PM [Link] |
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