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Axl rose
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2/05
Posted - Feb 12 2005 : 2:05PM
Iam interested in finding movies of Japanese women and American men. The only movies I can find is the “Japanese Erotica file’’ series. Can anyone help?
BrandonCruz
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62 Posts
1/05
Posted - Feb 12 2005 : 2:36PM
you could try Jules Jordans "InvASIAN!" and I hear that "Slant Eye for the Straight Guy" may have what your looking for. But really, with all the scenes of this type out there, it sound like your not looking very hard...
sunchen
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Posted - Feb 12 2005 : 3:29PM
Axl,

If you're looking for specifically Japanese women and American men, it will be pretty hard to find, as I'm sure you've found. Most American porn with Asian women doesn't feature Japanese women. And Japanese porn usually has an all Japanese cast.

If I were you, I'd start looking through the Japanese porn mags to see what's out there, but you may not have much luck. It's pretty hard for American pornogrpahers to shoot there.

"Okay....go. And...go. Go."

sir wankalot
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UK
904 Posts
5/03
Posted - Feb 12 2005 : 6:41PM
Why aren't there more Japanese girls coming to the USA to shoot porn?

There seems to be alot of Japanese girls out there judging by the various Japanese stores like this and this

Surely they must get bored of being 'bukkaked' every other day?

Jacco All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 12 2005 : 6:54PM
Sir W, in a previous thread somebody mentioned that the Japanese girls in Japanese movies get way more paid than they pay in American movies. And if you want to go to Japan to shoot there, the hotel prices alone in Tokyo would be more than the budget for the average gonzo movie.

Jacco

 
eduardo911
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Posted - Feb 12 2005 : 7:35PM
It's ancient history, but probably the only flick I've ever seen with a Japanese girl and a Western guy was Traci Lords' "Traci Takes Tokyo".

There is a German guy in the movie that had a scene with a Japanese girl (and Traci has a scene with a Japanese guy).

However, although it was produced in 1986, the year Traci turned 18 (she was born 7 May 1968) it is apparently considered illegal, her only legal porn flick being "Traci I Love You".

And in a recent thread, somebody pointed to a Japanese movie featuring Sean Michaels, but I haven't seen the movie.


Edited by - eduardo911 on 2/12/2005 7:37:02 PM

wire
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USA
35 Posts
3/04
Posted - Feb 12 2005 : 7:59PM
There are some Japanese women who have worked in the US, but not many. Fujiko Kano's scenes are great.
Pete Zaface
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3064 Posts
8/03
Posted - Feb 12 2005 : 10:34PM
I can give you some pages, and you can use the keywords "foreigner," "black" and "gaijin" on the search pages to see what you get.


Office 21's search screen


Moodyz's gaijin page

Xcity doesn't have a separate category for gaijin or blacks, but you can find some titles by searching here.

Warning: Searching for JAV girls and black guys is complicated by the fact that "black" is used in a lot of JAV titles wherein no black guys appear.

Mayor of Chatsworth
Freelance Pornographer

Chatsworth, CA
178 Posts
1/05
Posted - Feb 12 2005 : 11:28PM
I think it's something that Japanese men have against Westerners (our bigger penises, perhaps?). Or maybe they just hate all us foreign devils (gaijin).

For one thing, it seems that guys in the skin trade in Japan don't like their women fucking any other than Asian guys. The only soaplands, etc., that cater to gaijin are usually stocked with Korean girls. I've seen (the equivalent of) bordellos in Tokyo (Kabuki-Cho), Kyoto, Kobe, and even out of the way places like Hiroshima, with "Japanese Only" signs in their windows or painted on their doors. I guess they don't want our big honky dicks corrupting their women.

Cleetus VanDamme
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4/04
Posted - Feb 12 2005 : 11:45PM
Thanks for those links Pete Zaface. I wish there was more of this type of porn too.
meddlesome
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13 Posts
6/04
Posted - Feb 13 2005 : 12:41AM
Dude, that's wrong. If you get paid well enough in your home country, why would you have to go outside your country? Plus, it is hard for most Japanese people to learn English anyway.
Hardware All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 13 2005 : 12:50AM
Let's keep the stereotypes under control. Some Japanese may be xenophobic, but they don't have an exclusive on that. Maybe the 'Japanese Only' shops just don't want to deal with any more drunken GI's who don't know or care about the rules of the game.

The question of whether Japanese males have smaller dicks or not isn't going to be answered by anectodal evidence gleaned from a few porn vids, so I, for one, would just as soon not have to revisit the topic once a month.

Mayor of Chatsworth
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Chatsworth, CA
178 Posts
1/05
Posted - Feb 13 2005 : 1:42AM
I have no idea what you're rambling on about in your first sentence. As for the Japanese finding it hard to learn English, they do learn English in school, but written work is stressed over verbal communication. So if you ask a random Japanese person for help, or directions, or whatever, in English, once they've overcome their embarrassment they can usually help you. Also, drunken salarymen are notorious for blathering on to any round eye in schoolboy English. It's kind of funny and endearing.
Mayor of Chatsworth
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Chatsworth, CA
178 Posts
1/05
Posted - Feb 13 2005 : 1:59AM
The Japanese are xenophobic, so just get over it. They wouldn't let any foreigners into their country for something like 300 years until Commodore Perry made them open it up. Doesn't that sound like the very definition of xenophobia? And I have a photo of the double doors to a soapland in the Gotanda district of Tokyo, that has in big letters "Japanese Only" written on them. You won't find many "drunken GI's" in Gotanda as it's a very tony neighborhood where the current Premier has his personal residence.

And, according to a Japanese friend of mine in Tokyo, the Japanese in Japan think all Americans who visit Japan have no money because we dress so badly, and they think we all have HIV too. I'm not making this up.

As for penis size, I went to one of those Korean bath places in Kabuki-Cho in Tokyo, near the huge Shinjuku railroad station, and the girls there were amazed by the size of my organ. The girl I picked out was so impressed with its dimensions she ran off and came back with three other girls, and they were all playing with my dick as I was trying to dry off from my pre-coital shower. And no, my dick is average for a white guy, not below average or above average.

Haven't I seen some "Why aren't there any male Asian porn stars?" threads on ADT? Why aren't there any? Are we Americans too xenophobic to allow that? Or is it that we already have a white Ed Powers, so we don't need any Asian Eds?

Axl rose
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24 Posts
2/05
Posted - Feb 13 2005 : 2:04AM
Any other Japanese poornstars in America other than Fujiko Kano,Mia Fuji,and Kamiko.
 
LCF All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 13 2005 : 4:12AM
Suzi Suzuki is Japanese and so was Satomi too and both do anal
expecially Suzi.
Hardware All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 13 2005 : 7:38AM
I'm sorry my last post was too subtle. I don't want to see any more stereotypes or trolling statements from you derailing this thread. Got it? Good.
sir wankalot
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UK
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5/03
Posted - Feb 13 2005 : 6:45PM
The 'higher wages' in Japan had crossed my mind.

If there was sufficient US consumer interest in a particular Japanese girl though, i wonder whether US studios would be tempted to splash out on her wages?

Come to think of it, i wonder what the porn salary difference is? Maybe the question should be....Why aren't more Western women going to Japan to make films? Is there a demand?

Jacco.....you can rest assured if i do visit Tokyo in the near future i will be taking a tent!

sir wankalot
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UK
904 Posts
5/03
Posted - Feb 13 2005 : 7:11PM
There are a number of 'Japanese only' clubs in Bangkok.

I suppose there are finacial and cultural reasons for their existence.
They are notoriously expensive (the japanese apparently being much more spend happy), the girls are paler skinned and taller (interestingly many westerners prefer the darker skinned [and poorer] 'Issan' girls), the girls wear elegant long silk dresses (as opposed to short skirts and heels in western bars) and most importantly...they offer kareoke!

Most Japanese shy away from the beer bars and many of the go-go's.
However, there is one go-go in Bangkok where East meets West big time. The customer ratio is roughly 60% Japanese 40% western.
The girls are quite japanese in appearance (lighter skinned, smaller/slimmer, trendy hairstyles [with highlights], younger than average and quite 'doll' like).

I guess the girls may have a slight bias towards the Japanese as they are known to spend more for sex/company.

And as any honest Bangkok bargirl will tell you... "Thai lady work bar for money, not for fun".

Jacco All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 13 2005 : 7:36PM
I am too lazy to find the thread now, but I think somebody said that the Japanese girls get paid $10.000 or more for a movie (or maybe one scene), that is several times as much as the average fees for American (or European) girls. You can shoot a whole gonzo for that money (well almost one decent one, or maybe two of the crap I sometimes see).

And good luck in finding room for a tent in Tokyo, ever see pictures of those Tokyo hotels where you basically get a coffin sized tube to sleep in?


Jacco

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12/04
Posted - Feb 13 2005 : 7:57PM
sir wankalot
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Posted - Feb 13 2005 : 8:53PM
Hardware All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 13 2005 : 9:05PM
Can we get this thread back on track? Thanks.
dac
David Aaron Clark

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574 Posts
2/04
Posted - Feb 14 2005 : 4:52AM
Couple of quick remarks -- Brandon, don't think you're a fan of J-girls, cuz the closest thing in INVASIAN is half-Japanese Hawaiian beauty Nautica Thorn.

From the mouth of Yoshi, Oriental Dreams Pictures prez, who would know better than anybody, one of his biggest problems in bringing over Japanese AV starlets to work with white/black guys is that MOST OF THEM DON'T WANT TO, because of penis size and perceived cleanliness/disease levels. The Japanese traditionally do happen to be extraordinarily xenophobic, though that attitude has seen some deep changes among the children of the last generation.

there are other Japanese actresses currently working here besides the ones mentioned -- Kammy has done many, many scenes already, there is Asami, and there is Yumi (sometimes credited as Lily).

Kammy, Yumi and an older but still sexy Osaka model named Hiroko are all in my next Madness release, AZN ULTRA IDOLS! from Madness Pictures, where they have an orgy with Brian Surewood, Mr. Marcus and Tyler Knight.

But Kammy, Yumi, Asami all moved here. Hiroko was on vacation. Most J-girls wouldn't bother to come over even if they had no problem with American actors/standards because even minus the exchange rate that works against the American dollar, they are paid far better at home, without investing in airfare, hotel, etc, and potentially being at the mercy of a unknown quantity (American producers -- and if you think that our little "mishap" last year where performers came up HIV wasn't keenly noted by the Japanese porn industry, well, talk to Yoshi, not me)

Why don't the richer American companies convince a select AV Idol or two to come over and shoot? They do, but only very ocassionally. They have no vision, and can't figure out that it would quickly build a whole new market for themselves. Instead, now finally alerted to the commercial potential of the Asian girl genre, they film the same tiny pool of easily available at the moment American-Asian actresses over and over, and that includes both Jules and "Slant Eye." IMO, he one thing Don Fernando deserves props for is that the story of his career is going out and finding new, unshot girls where ever he can!

Also -- there's some interest in Caucasian women in J-porn, but not very much. The mainstream of the J-porn industry puts their particular premium on physical beauty as opposed to ability to do DAP, DPP, blah blah blah ...

Though if you're interested in seeing far nastier uncensored J-porn than you're used to, with Japanese penises which certainly equal the respectable average length of a white guy, check out the releases from a great new company called KOKESHI. Your open mind will be rewarded....

sir wankalot
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UK
904 Posts
5/03
Posted - Feb 14 2005 : 10:46AM
Thanks dac, some interesting info there.

Just checked out Kokeshi here
Looks like they have some nice films. Would anyone recommend a good store? AVfantasy looks promising.

I assume these japanese studios can sell the uncensored versions (no pixelation) of their movies to the rest of the world. So why aren't there more hardcore Japanese titles available to us? I still see Japanese films with pixalation being sold on various websites.

There must also be a large demand for uncensored porn in Japan?
Why don't Japanese studios use the US as a base to distribute the uncensored versions of their films back into japan. This way they avoid prosecution and fill the gap in the market.

 
camaban
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Germany
437 Posts
8/03
Posted - Feb 14 2005 : 12:36PM
I think a must buy Kokeshi Vol. 19. It stars Yoshiki Aogiri. What a beautiful girl, too gorgeous for words. And she does anal and dp in this movie, something you don't see very often in Japanese porn.

It seems she was at the AVN Expo this year. Hopefully we can see more of her soon. American producers invite her to the US and shoot her, please!!!

infimum
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189 Posts
3/04
Posted - Feb 14 2005 : 8:26PM
Are you sure that Nautica Thorn has Japanese blood in her? I heard that she was half-Chinese. Thanks in advance for clarification.
infimum
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Posted - Feb 14 2005 : 8:48PM
One thing I would like to mention about those J-actresses who crossed the ocean is that they are hardly in the ranks of "top actresses" in Japan. Well, this is obvious once their reason to come here is taken into consideration: they didn't succeed in Japan, so that's why they came here. Even Fujiko Kano, who used a different name in Japan, was relatively unknown.

Of the actresses you mentioned, I've only watched Kammy. To be blatantly blunt, I don't think she has the look to be in the ranks of top actresses in Japan. I think that a lot of frequent JAV watchers see what I am talking about. I don't know about the other actresses in your movie. If you find those actresses including Kammy extraordinary attractive and think that they could be top actresses, that's fine. My remark is not meant to be a knock-down on your preference.

What I want to say is that if you want to watch really good J-actresses, watch JAV. At the present time, this is the only way.

dac
David Aaron Clark

Just another WKW wannabe
574 Posts
2/04
Posted - Feb 14 2005 : 9:01PM
Nautica is half-Japanese, half-Puerto Rican, born & raised in Hawaii.

And while I am an advocate of recognizing the unique beauty of each individual, I will readily agree with you that Kammy -- as well as the other girls I mentioned -- are not on a level with top AV actresses. Though Lily has a breathtaking body ... Of these three girls, I don't believe any of them even attempted to get into AV in Japan .... but they are still attractive, and certainly in Kammy and Lily's case, much more enthusiastic and hardcore than the vast majority of AV idols. In other words, if you're a J-girl fan, definitely worth a look!

tmd5
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seika izumi
502 Posts
6/04
Posted - Feb 16 2005 : 3:30AM
There is such a series, but probably not what you are looking for. There is a series from MOODYZ called the "Black Semen Bukkake in LA" It's just a bunch of black semen and one Japanese girl.

There is also lots of other similar movies, but it takes a lot of work to find them.

BTW Did you know that Peter North was once in a Japanese Bukkake movie from MVG/M's Video Group. Yes, it's true. I don't recall the title or catalog number though.

At least two american male porn stars have done Japanese Bukkake movies before for MVG. Can you believe it?

eduardo911
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1299 Posts
8/03
Posted - Feb 16 2005 : 3:36PM
Isn't all J-Porn required by Japanese law to be pixelated/censored?

Another question: I may be missing something obvious here, but can anybody tell me what "AV" stands for?

Axl rose
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24 Posts
2/05
Posted - Feb 16 2005 : 3:55PM
If Japanese starlets cost too much than why not bring over Japanese amateurs?
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Posted - Feb 16 2005 : 4:06PM
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idigasian2
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10/03
Posted - Mar 13 2005 : 11:00PM
try typhoon's black pearls series
Paradise of japan vol.24
top secret vol.2

if anyone else knows of any other flicks with authentic japanese girls with western men uncensored please let me know.

Typhoon shot one in california a couple months back with 3 japanese girls and blake palmer.Ahso Hashimoto said it was due out but never f&%ing materialized!!It was supposed to be called lust in translation.Anyone has any news on this???

I digasian




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