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| You Wish Member Last person please turn off the lights 85 Posts 7/07 | 1. More content than anyone else?. Many companies put out 4 hour DVDs. Hell I seen 20 hours in a box! JJ didn't start that. 2. Crafted his scenes from day one? Please don't use gonzo and craft in the same sentence, they don't belong... Not when you shoot in the same living room set over and over and just move the furniture around. Lighting is generally good... like it should be... nothing special. Doesn't look like he uses any extra lighting, could be wrong though. I seen some bad lighting and color in some of his movies. Am I expecting to much with gonzo? 3. Every girl is a work of art? Art and gonzo don't go together in the same sentence. Art is Andrew Blake, Brad Armstrong, Michael Ninn, Cross. So don't be silly. Every director dresses girls in lingerie and has from the beggining of filmed porn. He didn't invent lingerie and porn... But it sounds like you think he did. 4. Chemistry... sixth sense? Oh paleeze... So he has special powers that other directors don't have. I knew there was a secret somewhere. You need to get on this dudes payroll if you ain't already. 5. Everyone in porn casts the same girls over and over and over, with the same different body types, recognizability and style. Nothing new or innovative here... Sorry but my opinions aren't any weaker than your opinions. Thats what everyone is here to do. express views. |
| Gentleman Jon All-Star Member 1881 Posts 6/05 | Anyway, no, a lot of other gonzo directors didn't dress girls in lingerie. Girls usually brought suitcases of their own clothes to set and would decide what to wear on set. The outfits that were often worn could better be described as stripper clothes than lingerie. I think there's a difference between booty shorts and dayglow fishnets and fine lingerie. Of course, not all of Jules scenes have the girls in lingerie, either. Sometimes he goes more fetishy, other times he has the girl in figure flattering street clothes and they act like he's picking them up off of the street. Going on, sure there have always been scenes that had girls in lingerie, but frequently all-sex fans found the action boring, however much we liked the outfits the girls were wearing at the beginning of the scenes.Actually in the last couple of years he has gotten complaints from some quarters about his shooting girls over and over again.Over the years Jules has shot some girls that shot for nobody else or for very few others. And there have been pretty girls who shot for many other people but Jules managed to get better or harder performances out of them than anyone else who shot them did. And some of the other directors you named are known for favoring girls with a particular hair color or body type. If you can't tell, I'm in between the 'Jules is a gonzo god' and the 'Jules is overrated' schools of thought. I don't rush out and get his every release, because a lot of them will have girls that aren't my type or that I only like, and none that I love. I have never written a full review of a Jules Jordan movie, but there have been times that on XRent one of his movies will be rated 5 star with hundreds rating it and I've only given the movie 4 stars. Earlier in this decade, Jules frequently had girls with the same caliber of beauty as the porn magazines liked to shoot, and they weren't in trashy stripper or streetwalker clothes and were often in fairly nice lingerie, stockings, and heels; and they were captured on video with fairly high technical values, and the action was usually pretty hot, and his scenes usually didn't have as much potential to make one feel icky the way some other non-feature studios and directors of the era could. It's not that other directors didn't shoot some hot stuff too, but assuming you liked the girls in a particular movie, Jules's movies were more consistently good to the gonzo viewer with more mainstream tastes. I'm not sure whether he's got the same edge today. Not all of his more recent movies shout "Buy Me Now!" to me. But others do intrigue me. |
| MythMaker Member Jada... the best thing in porn 919 Posts 7/07 | I enjoyed your second post much more than the other, and thankfully you could use my structured post as a model to express more thoughtful comments. You are welcome. As far as being on the payroll, not quite. I also am huge fans of many directors including Jake Malone, Chris Streams, Jay Sinn, Mick Blue, Ivan, William H, Mason, John Leslie, Robby D., Celeste, and on and on... This thread just happens to be focussed on Jules. Keep posting, for sure, cause talking about this stuff is fun and I do like to learn from other people about how they view adult material and what impresses them and what doesn't. Please don't feel I am being pedantic or preachy, but I do believe strongly that this forum should not be negative for the sake of being negative. I also enjoyed the response to your second post by Gentleman Jon. It didn't occur to me that feature fans don't have much of a following here. Strange, in a way, as I do enjoy Eli Cross, Stormy Daniels, Ninn, Armstrong, and such. I simply enjoy and pay much more attention to wall-to-wall and gonzo. Ass Worhsip 11! ass Worship 11! Ass Worship 11! Needed to get that out... |
| You Wish Member Last person please turn off the lights 85 Posts 7/07 | When you portray yourself in a certain way to the public by the things you say and write or the way you advertise, I think it is fair game to discuss it. Gentleman Jon said it very well. JJ comes off as being very smug. Thats the image he put out there publicly of himself. I think it is fair to discuss it. In a nutshell my point has been this... all things being considered and all the material that has ever been produced in the adult movie business. JJ is given waaay to much credit for the work he does. He is really overrated, its that simple. He just isn't on the same level with the really top notch directors that I mentioned earlier. But I guess it ain't fair to compare any simple gonzo maker to a really creative high end feature movie director. I'll concede that. They are two different animals. That's not a personal attack. Just throwing a differing opinion into the mix... |
| Midnight Max Deactivated User And put an end to the Chicago-style Thuggery 678 Posts 3/08 | |
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| camaban Member Germany 437 Posts 8/03 | I would buy much more US made porn if more girls would do anal and not the same bunch again and again. The solution for me is to buy less US and much more Euro porn. It's a shame when a movie called Beyond the Call of Booty 3 has no anal scenes in it. I can't imagine that such movies make much profit?! Edited by - camaban on 3/19/2009 7:22:30 AM |
| luvinIt912 Deactivated User 250 Posts 3/07 | |
| julesjordanvideo JulesJordan.com Professional Perverts 1003 Posts 9/01 | Now, "you wish" has not made any specific references to movies i've shot and why they are not to his liking, he is obsessed with a simple picture, that I thought was a cool pic simple as that, it does not have any overtones to it. This guy is looking on my myspace and bio on my website(which I did not write, jeff marton did, I actually cant stand it but....), maybe for some reason he is just obsessed with how successful I have become??? I was one of the first directors to come on adt and interact with fans, because I am one, is this arrogant? Why my movies are unique....well lets just say casting has allot to do with it, my goal is to shoot the ultimate sex!, I get the hottest girls, combine them with capable guys who they want to work with to provide amazing chemistry, luckily girls love to perform to the best of their ability for my camera and it shows...you will see girls in a light no other has shot them in, but dont take it from me, take it from the fans, I combine this with state of the art video equipment, my camera settings and angles, timing with things is also important, I use allot of natural light so I can get 360 degree angles, so occasionally you may see some shadows, I hate being restricted to 180 degrees with lights to my back, you may see me shooting in allot of frequent locations, this is mostly for technical aspects, I like to see girls from head to toe able to walk around and show all angles. Lets talk about wardrobe...in the late 90s most directors shot girls wearing whatever was in their suitcases, I started dressing the girls up head to toe in high priced wardrobe, I think I was one of the few at the time that cared to do this, now some companies have full time "stylists" that dress the girls up, also producers had girls do their own makeup, I have always hired the best in that field to get the results I get...this all adds up to focusing on attention to detail....this is one of the biggest elements of my movies, which others do not get...I do not have people write scenarios or scripts, I have no lighting people, no boom mikes, no extra people on set, the themes are all concepts created by myself, these some of the factors, but certainly not all that have helped me croat great product. Evil Angel, I was not hired by Evil Angel, I was approached by John to be distributed by them. I am friends with everyone at EA, there is no bad blood, I am grateful that John helped to make Jules Jordan Video a worldwide brand, but we both benefited from this relationship, EA helped take me to another level, and in turn I took them to another level. If EA was the sole reason for my success, after leaving them I would be out of business, this wasnt a one sided relationship. Some said I would fail, but I thrived, I took a risk, no one has left EA and been this successful, obviously some cant stand it. Where have I been?, obviously running a business that has allot of employees and producers has lots of variables that keep me very busy on a daily basis, all this is to provide fans with the best quality adult entertainment possible, this is only one aspect, the economy has zero percent factor in not releasing as many movies lately.... lets just say what I shoot is fantasy, what I live is reality....I deal with adversities and personal issues in life just like everyone does.....of course it hasnt stopped me....adversity motivates me!.... You will be seeing more frequent releases in the very near future from your favorite series, I dont release frequent volumes of popular series because I would be on Ass Worship #50 by now, and It would be as strong a brand, plus I'm very picky about the talent......if it aint right....it aint coming out! The early 2000's were full of able, willing and smoking hot talent, this time period will never be duplicated in the future, you had names like Jenna Haze, Aurora Snow, Belladonna, Gauge, Krystal Steal, Shyla Stylez, Taylor Rain, etc etc....who were all doing crazy bang up scenes, i'm still waiting for a crew of girls like these to broaden the horizons of porno again! btw, gentleman john, the shyla tease in Lex 3 was shot blown out and was suppose to be edited with an affect to create a mood, my editor did not apply the affect and it got released, newer versions of Lex 3 have been fixed, trust me I would not shoot a tease that blown out...lol...I had to restrain myself when I saw that..... Anyway, a picture is not always worth a thousand words "You Wish" thanks to all the supporters, gonna be a great 2009! |
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| Richie04 Deactivated User 50 Posts 4/08 | Well he got Gina Lynn to swallow 5 loads. Right? He got Lisa Ann to open up her ass. That has been before done but still very rare. I'm not a big JJ fan but I'll give credit where credit is due. I've been seeing some pretty cool stuff. Note one thing that really annoyed me about the Gina Lynn scene was every time they went in for a tight close up the auto exposer on the camera fucked up. C'mon guys. Your suppose to be professionals. Use manual exposer settings. |
| Tommy Kaye Member 135 Posts 2/07 | I personally like Jules movies very much, and what little that I do know of Jules on a personal side, I like and admire. I don't think people realize or can appreciate how hard it is to bring a good production to life, let alone being responsible for starting and running your own company. I have been busting my ass for 15 years doing my own low key thing and I also don't appreciate people taking shots. Everyone's got an opinion and I don't lose any sleep over them. I'm sure Jules won't either. Jules I left a message for you at your office about this thread and I have an interesting business proposition for you. It would be great if you can please return my call. Thanks. Tommy Kaye |
| pudknock Member A comfortable distance 499 Posts 7/06 | |
| Richie04 Deactivated User 50 Posts 4/08 | Then you are NOT a good businessman. There are millions of mistakes being made everyday in all kinds of businesses all across the globe every single day and you are part of that Mr. Kaye. The sooner you accept that fact the sooner you will begin to become more productive. I've known people who have busted thier asses (nearly killing themselves) over a piece of shit, barely getting by business. Do I respect these people? Absolutley and thats why I would love to see thier efforts go in a more productive direction. Look, I know where you are coming from. I too have created artistic works. It's like they're your babies. Parents can see nothing but perfection in thier little creations and I'm guilty of this stupidity too. Sure, some people are complete assholes but not everyone. You have a lot brains on this message board just waiting to be picked. It's up to you, do you wanna take advantage of that? |
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| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | And I appreciate the differentiation strategy, I too am a businessman... However, it cannot be a bunch of fluff or "sizzle" as the saying goes, where is the freakin steak???? This is the point: I have no shortage of cash to spend on porn, frankly I'm running out of places to stash it (I pretend to hide it like my wife doesn't know....funny no?) and I have made a sincere effort to own every dvd devoted to cum swallowing. I'm up to about 1000 dvds now, no shit. My point (yes, there's a point) Jules Jordan is about the only one I boycott due to the value factor. And again, I'm okay with spending $50 on a dvd if I think it's worth it. Like say Brandon Iron's "50 to 1" series, that's only $1 per cum swallow, that's a bargain. And guess what, it only cost me $10 for each of those videos... so that's $0.20 per cumshot. But I'm supposed to pay $25 or more (and that's on the discount sites) for JJ fancy pants package with a bunch of girls I cannot even see behind the makeup and a bunch of nonsense and then little time is spent on the actual event .... the cum swallowing. Anyway, I've hollered enough. Edited by - seedfeeder on 4/17/2009 12:53:22 AM Edited by - seedfeeder on 4/17/2009 12:55:56 AM |
| empires Member 66 Posts 4/09 | 1000 DVDs devoted to cum swallowing? god-damn man man no offence you might have that collectors psychological complex where it is all about hoarding why would you need so many DVDs, when would you ever find time to watch em all? with that many DVDs there are going to be hundreds you never watch so what is the point in owning them? i am just saying... but on the topic of Jules Jordan, i admit, i am not a devoted fan of his i also do not like the outfits and make-up he tends to dress up the girls in but it cannot be denied the man has shot some SUPER HOT stuff. 2002, 2003, the first few Trained Teens and Flesh Hunter DVDs, those were fucking awesome. modern classics with modern stars. that is why the scenes keep getting released in comp form you had girls like Jenna Haze, Gauge, Aurora Snow, Krystal Steal, Luna Lane, all in one movie i am not even a fan of Krystal Steal and her dodging ways, but her scene in Trained Teens #1... OMG it is shot so good, i can feel the heat, just want to reach thru the TV and grab her tanned ass and fake tits. 7 years later, that whole DVD still makes me salute when i screen it Edited by - empires on 4/17/2009 4:16:02 AM |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Yes, I know.... But if you mix obsessive compulsive nature, with some money and a few fetishes, you end up with about 1,000 dvd's and counting. If it makes you feel better, I probably own about 2,000 regular (non-porn) dvds. On the porn ones, ya, there's probably still 300-400 I haven't watched, still in wrapper or whatever. But I do have the time, I don't watch the whole damn thing, I scan on high speed and only care about a few things, mostly money shots. So I don't really watch them all. Porn is like any other addiction... what got you off yesterday must have its dosage increased today, and again tomorrow. Like I said, JJ has some strong points and they've been covered. But he also detracts from the industry by using things like a clown makeup standard. JJ was better a few years ago...it's only the last 3 years perhaps that my beef has arisen. Don't get me wrong, some girls look better with lots of makeup, but some do NOT. So using a standard of "paint them all up to look like high class hookers" is just narrow minded in my opinion. And as I said, I feel a bit ripped off when I buy JJ dvds lately. The crap started when the price really increased. It's a value issue and I don't think I get my money's worth. And obviously, with a 1,000 dvds I'll buy damn near anything close to my interests and am willing to pay for it. JJ is the only one that has made my "boycott for screwing me" list. Ok, maybe a few others are on that list like I think Leisure Time entertainment entered my list 5 or 6 years ago, and anyone else who lies about the content like calling the movie "girls who eat cum" and then it's a bunch of lesbians and midgets lol. |
| julesjordanvideo JulesJordan.com Professional Perverts 1003 Posts 9/01 | oh seed, thanks for putting me on your list next to leisure time, I see the similarities Breast Worship #2 is coming out guys, check it out I think its a great release! trailer and photo gallery is on julesjordanvideo.com Edited by - julesjordanvideo on 4/18/2009 4:33:54 PM |
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| shellshock91 Member Believe and you can Achieve 663 Posts 1/05 | I've been a Jules Jordan fans since he was shooting films in the northeast back in the turn of the century for Pleasure. To me, he helped revolutionize the gonzo genre during this period and the subsequent years that followed. I respect John Stagliano to the upmost, but I never saw a director shoot tease sequences and the action with so much precision than Jules did back in the day. Plus, he got better and better and better after each film. Truly, it was a steady progression. For those that have asked the question, Why do is this guy held to such high status?, I would just say look at gonzo prior to JJ and a few years after he started filming. He made a big impact. Secondly, many fans like him because it's as if you have a guy behind the camera thinking just like you, the fan, shooting the type of film that you have already plotted in you mind before watching one single clip. Jules is a fan and he directs like one. It's smart business, but for Jules, it's just natural. Also, he's able to bring out the best of most girls that are rather average in other films shot by other directors. Although, this is really about opinion more than anything else, I would say that girls like Tiffany Holiday, Julea London, Mary Jane, Alexis Malone, Brooke Milano, and Rose are a few examples to consider. Other than Lex and a few others, Jules is the reason why I'm still paying attention to the biz today. I think he knows where he wants to go, and he has built a very good team over at JJV, in addition to making good business deals such as acquiring Brazzers. As a proud owner of several JJ titles, I'm content with my collection and those films still hold up today. If Jules ever decided to only dedicate 5% of his time on putting out titles and the other 95% on other elements of his business, I wouldn't be upset because his library is still fresh. |
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| Pine_Barrens Member 38 Posts 7/08 | @JJ: I love ALL of his stuff. He's the best. Although I'm not gay or whatever, I LOVE his voice! I like how he talks to some girls off-camera, his voice is almost erotic. Whatever, it doesn't turn attention away from the pictures and that's a good thing. |
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| MythMaker Member Jada... the best thing in porn 919 Posts 7/07 | What we can do to foster discussion about JJ titles we love is, perhaps, speculate who might be a candidate for the loooooooooong anticipated Ass Worship 11. I might like to see Andi Anderson, Ava Rose, and Jayden James. There are so many more, but I'm thinking these girls could just get worked by Steve Holmes or maybe a return of Jean Val Jean. |
| julesjordanvideo JulesJordan.com Professional Perverts 1003 Posts 9/01 | I'd like to thank MythMaker for starting this thread, but as usual haters come out of the woodwork... |
| SmellsLikeAss Member I can smell gape... 299 Posts 5/08 | Also, has the weapons of 'Ass Destruction' series now been shelved? Haven't seen one of these for a while. |
| Lloyd W. Member Canada 222 Posts 4/06 | 85-90% of the movies I purchase have either the Evil Angel or Jules Jordan Video label on it and that includes most of the other directing talent in his stable. Chris Streams, Erik Everhard, Alex Devoe, Mike John, Chris Rolie, and now his lovely gf Jenna Haze. It's like one stop shopping for me with all this amazing talent under his banner. As with other studios if there is something that doesn't appeal to me at JJV I just don't purchase it. But that happens a lot less with JJV than with other studios.Not everything is going to be my cup of tea. I guess I'm just lucky to have picked a studio like JJV where I can get my fix of great porn. For me I can care less about dates a title should come out as long as JJ maintains his quality and standards on what he does release. I counted more than a dozen titles JJ has released under his banner. It's impossible for me to expect him to release one of those titles every month till the end of the year. Something would suffer and that usually ends up being quality, and I for one would be pissed if I knew I was spending my money on something that was rushed out the door for the sake of meeting a release date. And that is on top of the challenges that face him running JJV at the same time. As long as Jules wants to keep putting out movies I'm gonna keep buying them till I can't buy them no more. Now about Ass Worship....Care to give us any ideas who is going to be included in this? |
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| mrbluelouboyle All-Star Member mrbluelouboyle and Alexis Tae 1335 Posts 12/03 |
He is from Philly, so when he shot East Coast Assault, he was essentially going home anyway, so it wasn't an out of the way trip. Just my opinion. |
| SmellsLikeAss Member I can smell gape... 299 Posts 5/08 | Jules, you should spend the time you have on here replying to questions from genuine fans rather than rewarding, er, 'haters', as you put it by responding to their posts. Focus on the positive my friend! |
| Gentleman Jon All-Star Member 1881 Posts 6/05 | But my point is, it's impressive that Jules would reshoot scenes, since depending on how far they got into the aborted first attempt at the scene, he could very well have to rent the location another day and pay everyone twice. I don't how often he has shot scenes twice for other movies, but even if those two scenes are the only two scenes he's ever reshot in his career, I get the impression that two scenes is more than many other porn directors. |
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| pokerman Member J lo booty 404 Posts 4/09 |
It will be interesting to see who you cast for this one. In a ideal world you will have Gianna Michaels, Pinky, Alexis Texas in it. (can only dream) I will take a wild guess and say you have Luscious Lopez, Kristina Rose and maybe Kelly Divine in it. |
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| MythMaker Member Jada... the best thing in porn 919 Posts 7/07 | JJV said in another thread... "Ass Worship 11 is full of cream pies....stay tuned for info, trailer, and photo gallery soon!" Nice Ass Worship 11 Slut Puppies 3 I'm hoping for : Buttworx 2 Pump My Ass Full of Cum 2 maybe, just maybe Invasian! 4 Asa Akira, maybe a bottled Jandi Lin scene, Tia Tanaka, Jessica Bangkok And I would really love to see JJ do a vid featuring black girls... a niche he's yet to explore |
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I think Jules record speaks for itself. Been watching his stuff since he got in the business and most in the industry agree that he his one of the top directors and producers out there. And he has a roster of directors that does match up with evil angel and elegant angel,the top companies in the industry. I think that what people must remember one this industry goes through cycles and I think right now its in a valley right now. But still there is quality being produced. Jules is one of them. When you buy his stuff, you get a massive amount of material. With the hottest and best women in the business. So the way I see it, its more bang for your buck. There is a saying less is more. And Jules has kept making quality porn. Also realize he is just not a director but a distruber now. Even if he does 3 to 6 titles a year-less is more. I for one have enjoyed viewing his stuff. I think the tendency is for people to whine and complain about about everything on the internet and message boards have a chance to be worst. All I know that I enjoy his porn and will continue to do so. And man he's with Jenna Haze, that alone deserves our respect. lol Jules,keep the good work you do. I think its rocks and I know i'm not the only one. |
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