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_swede_
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Posted - Apr 21 2007 : 6:36PM
I just read that Katsumi is going to change her performer name to Katsuni

I think it's because her company (Digital playground) wants to copywright her name, and there is some stupid vietnamese nail salon chain called Katsumi.

I don't think that Katsuni doesn't sound as good as Katsumi. I wish that that fucking nail salon chain could change name instead.

rc7394
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Posted - Apr 21 2007 : 8:30PM
I don't care if she calls herself "Dan". With a body like that and her enthusiasm I'd rent everyone of her movies. I already have so far.
Porn Scout
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Posted - Apr 21 2007 : 8:40PM
That's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard of. She should stay Katsumi or change it to something completely different.
Tinaka
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Posted - Apr 21 2007 : 9:42PM
So do they want to own her name or will she own it? All sounds silly to me.
bauer024
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Posted - Apr 21 2007 : 9:51PM
dan is a good name but i dont think it would sound great with her. i hope she just keeps it the same

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Posted - Apr 21 2007 : 10:25PM
Possibly the stupidest thing i've read in a while, and that's a hard title to claim in this business.

Katsumi, I think you're so sweet, but none of this makes real sense.

wheat
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Posted - Apr 22 2007 : 1:37AM
Why do they need to copyright the name?

Are they going to hire a different actress to play 'katsumi' if she leaves?

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ObiBong
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Posted - Apr 22 2007 : 2:17AM
I'm no expert, but I suppose part of the theory is that if they copyright it, they prevent a different actress from using that name right now.


Edited by - obibong on 4/22/2007 2:19:52 AM

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Posted - Apr 22 2007 : 2:39AM
I doubt that another performer using the name would get far, trademark or no. It's probably a merchandising thing - get your Katsumi love doll here, folks!
ObiBong
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Posted - Apr 22 2007 : 2:44AM
But the point is, if you don't copyright the name, what's to stop me from marketing a Katsumi love doll? Or Katsuni, I guess.

(Not a rhetorical question. I don't know.)


Edited by - obibong on 4/22/2007 2:45:40 AM

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Posted - Apr 22 2007 : 3:02AM

I think we're at cross-purposes, Obi. I wasn't arguing that it was pointless, I was giving a more plausible explanation for the copyright.

ObiBong
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Posted - Apr 22 2007 : 3:26AM
Ah. Well, other people seemed to be arguing that it's pointless, or wrongheaded, and have in other threads.
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Posted - Apr 22 2007 : 4:08AM
if the salon is a registered trade mark and covered all classes than Digital Playground can't register her stage name as it is now , it is the same thing if an actress wants to call herself McDonald maybe she can but can't register that name as a trade mark since it has been already.


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Posted - Apr 22 2007 : 5:52AM
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Exactly ... bigons ... "lucky" Cindy Crawford

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BigBobxxx
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Posted - Apr 22 2007 : 7:44AM
If "Digital Playground" can't "copyright her name" because of a "stupid vietnamese nail salon chain called Katsumi," nobody else (as in other porn actresses/studios) would be able to either.

According to this site, you can't copyright a name (see #5).

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Posted - Apr 22 2007 : 8:13AM
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Posted - Apr 22 2007 : 1:05PM
So MacDonald's isn't a name?
it depends anyway you can't copyright a name as a name like John but you can trademark a logo WITH a name in a specific class of products also we don't know what Katsumi is nor what the salon protected
In example
Yves Saint Laurent is a trademark and it is protected and his logo is as well , but you can't protect the name Yves although Valentino is protected but with his surname.
Pierre Cardin is protected as well Chanel is protected as well
Even in other kind of products Ford for example or Ferrari
hotels like Hilton or others
Martini
Johnnie Walker
Jack Daniel's
Bell (telephones)
Cartier
Bic
Levi's

so if there's a trade mark on a product this product can be protected in many ways in example Ferrari and Coca Cola protected everything even clothes and watches


Last thing your links talks about copyright which isn't the same as Trade Mark

Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 4/22/2007 1:11:33 PM

ObiBong
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Posted - Apr 22 2007 : 1:17PM
The question isn't whether they could copyright/trademark it for themselves, but whether they could use the name unpunished and exploit it to make money.


Edited by - obibong on 4/22/2007 1:18:21 PM

CarbonT
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Posted - Apr 22 2007 : 1:33PM
I think if she changes her name there will be a lag time of about .2 seconds before it's apparent that it's the same adorable chick with the same amazing ass giving the same stupendous blow jobs and we'll all adapt.
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Posted - Apr 22 2007 : 1:36PM
note that Katsumi can use that name as she did so far only that name is already registered and cannot be registered again by Digital Playground.
the problem apparently isn't the name but its registration

Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 4/22/2007 1:37:48 PM

mysterious_w
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Posted - Apr 22 2007 : 1:50PM
Katsumi is one of those girls who's really popular but I don't seem to like much.

She's attractive and all, but I don't like her scenes that much.

pito05
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Posted - Apr 22 2007 : 2:22PM
whatever the name, whatever the reason, i'd still watch her.
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Posted - Apr 22 2007 : 2:36PM
It's very difficult to trademark a name internationally, so I highly doubt that some nail salon in Vietnam did an international trademark or copyright on it.

Who knows, maybe part of her DP contract would be that they wanted to TM her name in the movies she's in, but she didn't want to give up the Kastsumi name to them.
Lest we forget Tera Patrick, Sophia Santi and Jesse Jane.

BigBobxxx
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Posted - Apr 22 2007 : 3:31PM
You know, I really don't need you tearing me a new one because I know the difference between a copyright and a trademark.
Why do you think I provided the link I did
 
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Posted - Apr 22 2007 : 3:41PM
I hope she/they research the number of times her name is searched for in the various search engines before changing it. Makes no sense to change her name when she is so established.
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Posted - Apr 22 2007 : 3:54PM
What about "The Artist Formerly Known As Katsumi"? Hey, it's still better than "Katsuni".

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rc7394
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Posted - Apr 22 2007 : 4:28PM
I say she ought to sue Digital Playground. It's girls like her that give the company any credibility.

Digital Playground doesn't know how to make movies anyway. They can't shoot scenes correctly. All you see through most of the scene is no more than 1/5 of the woman at any one time. That's a real turnon. They ought to take some serious lessons from 3rd Degree or Zero Tolerance.

In the "Big Tits" series Robby D. zooms in on the breasts during the entire scene. Check out Texas Presley in "Jack's Big Tit Show" and tell me how much of her you see. The camera is about 6" from her breasts during most of the scene. Robby D. said that was a fetish series and that's why he did it. They don't even know the meaning of the word "fetish".

The original McDonalds is Lord McDonald in the U.K. His family was around way before McDonalds Hamburgers was ever established. "60 Minutes" ran a story on that in the 1980's after McDonald's Hamburgers didn't want any other Restaurants or Retailers in Central London with the name "McDonald" other than themselves.

Edited by - rc7394 on 4/22/2007 4:33:59 PM

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Posted - Apr 22 2007 : 6:05PM
Well I answered you but this is a public board so I explained everything for those who read.


BTW if the salon has already registered that mark , what are we discussing here, DP cannot register another time that mark

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Posted - Apr 22 2007 : 6:41PM
On the other hand, if Digital Playground is going to promote her, they don't want a search of her name to turn up one of the 200 or so non-Digital Playground movies that she has done. They would rather have someone search on "Katsuni" and have the result turn up only the projects that she has done for them.

This is not being done to benefit Katsumi. This is being done to benefit Digital Playground.

jackthetreacleeater
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Posted - Apr 22 2007 : 6:50PM
Hardware, who is the chick you've got as your avatar?

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lukemason
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Posted - Apr 22 2007 : 7:02PM
Typical Digital Playground Behavior you would think they would have of learned there lesson... No Such Luck .

Stop Trying To Own People Digital Playground
Your Not Masters it's a bit sickening really .

BigBobxxx
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Posted - Apr 22 2007 : 7:52PM
From what I read on the official government trademarks website, it seems to me that Katsumi can keep using Katsumi as her name no matter what.
I guess the only issue arises if DP wants (insists) on trademarking their contract performer's names.
There are a lot of ins-and-outs to consider on the trademarks website (which is why I didn't attempt to explain it here).

For whatever it's worth, I think Katsumi would be foolish to let anyone trademark her name (assuming they were able to). Why would anyone sell the rights to their name for relatively peanuts?

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Posted - Apr 23 2007 : 7:21AM
Maybe it' because of my poor English but that's was exactly my point.

She can use her name but that name can't be registered as a Trademark because it has already been

The content of their material is copyrighted whether she uses the name Katsumi or not but the name by itself can't be registered.

that's what I was trying to point out

If you had the impression I was trying to teach you something you already know (of course you know if you're the one of IAFD I presume you are) then accept my apologies I didn't intend to


BTW I agree with you about the registered name , since she can't use it again eccept in DP productions if she go out to shoot for any else company or want to create his own company or whatever she wants she can't or at lesat she will have to change her name again

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Posted - Apr 23 2007 : 8:00AM
Laurie Cameron Fan,

You and I are fine.

 
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Posted - Apr 23 2007 : 12:46PM
It will be interesting to see if they take the boxcovers for the other movies she's ALREADY done for them and changes her name on those to Katsuni.
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Posted - Apr 23 2007 : 5:37PM
My guess would be 'no' because DP will be the exclusive copyright holders of the name 'Katsuni'.
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Posted - Apr 23 2007 : 6:28PM
I was talking about movies Digital Playground put out that she was already listed as Katsumi... will Digital Playground change THOSE to Katsuni?
jackthetreacleeater
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Posted - Apr 23 2007 : 7:16PM
Is she actually a pornstar or just some flamenco dancing chick?
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Posted - Apr 23 2007 : 7:54PM
They probably would if they thought that they could get online retailers and websites such, as ADT, to make the same change on their sites. Unless they believe that they can do that, changing the boxcovers would just cost money, without generating any benefit.
Tinaka
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Posted - Apr 23 2007 : 8:03PM
So is there actually a source to this story or is still just what someone says they read.

Edit: I guess her myspace is one good source. Why can't DP just leave people the way they were?

Edited by - Tinaka on 4/23/2007 8:08:58 PM

Harri Patel
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Posted - Apr 23 2007 : 8:48PM
I can't find any indication at the PTO that either "Katsumi" or "Katsuni" are trademarked.
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what is the world coming to?!?
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Posted - Apr 24 2007 : 12:15AM
I agree this isn't the first star who changed there name after getting a contract from them. She will always be the sexy Katsumi to me, I mean Katsuni. I wonder did she know about the name change before she signed the contract.
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Posted - Apr 24 2007 : 4:20AM
Good point...changing the sleeves is one thing, changing the credits in the movie is a whole different kettle of fish.
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Posted - Apr 24 2007 : 11:40AM
and a great one too especially in her early years
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Posted - Apr 24 2007 : 1:57PM
This has nothing to do with Digital Playground. Katsumi's in the middle of a lawsuit in France with her name because someone else is also named Katsumi and it was her idea to change it to Katsuni because of her huge fanbase there.

Everyone, please make sure you get the facts right.

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Posted - Apr 24 2007 : 5:16PM
heh! that's why I didn't say anything the first time. I still stick with my original comment though.

"" "" when a pornstar can't keep her name?!

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