I just read about her on tvtattle.com. I wonder what types of scenes and acts she’ll be willing to perform and if she’ll be willing to star in a JJ style “Dark Side Of” type of movie, preferably one with anal, ir / ir anal, gangbang, blowbang, dp, G/G kinds of scenes. alexl467
+1. Vivid's new site, that they relaunched earlier this month is, IMO, milking it's customers for every nickel and dime possible. I've been a long-time subscriber, but am thinking of dropping them. Getting back to Kelli McCarty. She's a MILF type, who's at the end of her mainstream career. This is no big "achievement" for Vivid or the industry. My prediction is this time next year, nobody will remember her name or video(s).
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hashphish Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 19 2009 : 4:30PM
Well I hope she gets away from Vivid and starts doing scenes for Brazzers or Pornpros.
Actually you do not have to pay to view the trailer, I think the cc is used for age verification purposes. It's not such a surprising move from her, before she became a soapie she made a string of softcore movies (some of them quite explicit for the genre) around 2000-2001. I always though she was a hottie then. Jacco
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Posted - Jan 19 2009 : 8:57PM
anyone know if she will do anal in the movie, tell her anal is now mainstream all the girls do it. really, and if she wants to get edgy do a DP or a TP or a DPP or double anal
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son. 1048 Posts 7/04
Posted - Jan 20 2009 : 3:15AM
Let's be truthful here. That AVN "article" is a press release from Vivid. It's the same one that's been on every site from CNBC.com to mornginstar.com to eonline.com. AVN hasn't run an article since probably the last millennium. I do give them credit, however, for noting at the beginning of the blurb that it is a press release. As to why she made the porno, I think over the next few months the truth will come out and it's not going to be as pleasant sounding as "I enjoy acting, and I really like sex, so this was the perfect opportunity to combine two of my passions".
I'm more curious as to why Vivid's saying the movie will be out in Feb and yet because its close enough to the month there's no pre-release listing anywhere on any of the DVD store sites I've looked at. Then again, Vivid hasn't had any Upcoming sections anywhere now for the last month and a half. And for those like myself who saw the CC info wanted for the hardcore trailer, the non hardcore trailer only wanted your E-Mail and I did see enough that one which was enough to say "yeah that's a later purchase".
That was her quote. If not true, why doesn't she come out and say it. Why else would she go from mainstream to porn if it wasn't by choice? Ninjas are holding her family hostage or something along those lines?
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Posted - Jan 20 2009 : 10:09AM
I don't know what you want or expect her to say. She was Miss USA in 1991, she sstarted doing movies and TV work a couple of years after that, and did a handful of soft-core pics between 2000-2001. If you take a closer look, you will note that there are a lot of porn performers in those movies (you think they did not talk to each other?). She is 40 years old. I don't think she has worked as of late and must assume the legit offers have dwindled. So why all this conjecture as what drove her to porn? Why Vivid? They publicize/pay her well and she does not have to shoot 100 movies in the next six months, in which she will have to hang from the chandelier while taking 5 males at the same time just to get noticed... Edited by - Len801 on 1/20/2009 10:51:44 AM
Here are some more things I’m hoping for from Kelli McCarty’s first release and her future projects. 1) I hope the makers of her movies spend an equal amount or more time making the sex scenes than the non-sex scenes. 2) While admittedly it’s pointless for me to expect Kelli McCarty to end up performing every pushing the envelope gonzo sex act on a regular bases I’m at least hoping she’ll try to do more than just the very ultra vanilla type sexual performances. I’m also hoping she’ll try to have or at least believably pretend to have chemistry with her co-stars during sex scenes instead of doing really cheesy and obviously fake sexual performances. 3) I hope her movies will have storylines that will enhance and not overshadow nor take away from their sex scenes or her sexual performances. 4) I hope her movies will have storylines that are easy to understand and figure out and not ones that are overly arty incoherent pieces of crap, which I’m afraid they might be after reading that P.T. is helping Kelli McCarty make her movies. 5) Whether the scenes are specifically interracial sex scenes or ones where she is having sex with a male performer who so happens to be Black I hope most if not all of Kelli McCarty’s movies will contain interracial sex scenes that feature her. Since she would like to do feature type movies I also hope that Black male performers will regularly have roles in her productions, preferably ones where their race do not play a factor or at least not major factor in their characters such as her love interest, a co-worker she ends up have sex with, or a neighbor she ends up having sex with. alexl467
I don't think I'm violating any policies here, but if I am, I trust a moderator will edit my post. If you don't trust vivid with your CC for age verification or just think it's too intrusive, you can see the *free* trailer [ invalid url ]. Dr. P
Another bad move on VIVIDS part. They should have either: 1. found a C+ or D list star from movie or tv and gave her a contract and made her the next vivid girl 2.or just signed on one of the best new starlet performers and did 5 solid movies around her. The girl Kelli was hot 10 years ago. and was only on a canceled soap opera. No real porn fan will care, and any new porn fans will see her and quickly lose interest cause she isn't as hot as any of the current vivid girl/ or best new starlet noms( Lexi, Misti, Tori Black ect...) Vivid which is one of the closest mainstream adult companies should hire hollywood directors, writers and solid girls instead of gimicks like these. I'd be more interested in a Vivid movie written by the writers of CSI or Superbad, starting a girl I know and like then some new unknown porn chick that will problably be outa the business by summer time.
^^While I don't believe Kelli McCarty is going to be a real pornstar, her signing with Vivid has been covered in much of the mainstream press. Which is what Vivid wants. The dollar value, in publicity in the mainstream press, is worth many times over whatever they're paying her. Plus, they'll make money on the DVD. Given that business is so slow, it's hard to blame Vivid for trying to increase revenues any way they can. Even though I doubt Kelli McCarty will have a real career in porn. If Vivid really wants to sign a "celeb" to a porn contract, I recommend they go after Amy Fisher. Her sexvid, with her husband, shows she loves to fuck. And Amy was at AEE, and has a g/g pay-per-view coming up. IMO, it's a smart deal waiting to happen. Edited by - Derek117 on 1/20/2009 2:58:54 PM
I had to see what the buzz was about and let them ID me with my CC.. She looks pretty good in the trailer. Can't tell but would doubt if she does anal or facials on this one but we will hope for more action on the next flick. Some close camera work (don't know if it qualifies as gonzo or not). Maybe the next Teri Weigel.. (wish Teri would have done Anal/DP just once).
It looks like a soild feature. I am looking forward to checking it out.
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Posted - Jan 20 2009 : 3:43PM
I wonder how long the movie will take to be on every "tube" site on the Internet for free. I doubt there is much up front money for her. I suspect she'll get some spreads on Penthouse & Playboy. Porn these days seems like a "lost leader". Edited by - Clam Digger on 1/20/2009 8:34:12 PM
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Posted - Jan 20 2009 : 3:55PM
You had a good post so let me reply with my take:
Yes. On the other hand, she's a pro so let's hope for some good non-sex performances to go with good sex performances.
I could give a crap about any given act (1-on-1>menage>double-team>veg>solo), I just want to see good chemistry and good performances with good looking partners. I agree with 3 and 4.
Gotta disagree 180 on that one, I hope all of her scenes are with white guys, preferably not short/old/fat ones.
^That comment always confuses me: "I hope all her scenes are with white guys". Really? Like, it would be a bad thing, and somehow you would never watch her again, if she did ONE scene with a black guy?
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Posted - Jan 20 2009 : 8:39PM
Racist posts like john_qyoo_public's make me wonder where all the fanboys are who jump on a female pornstar's case when her partners appear too pale for their tastes.
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Posted - Jan 20 2009 : 9:31PM
Vivid + Paul Thomas directing = lame ass and boring.
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Posted - Jan 20 2009 : 10:00PM
You know I didn't think that this many people would reply to this topic. Thank's for the replies.
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son. 1048 Posts 7/04
Posted - Jan 20 2009 : 11:55PM
(sigh....they are given eyes but they cannot see) It was a Vivid press release which, as anyone who has actually read any press release knows, only tells you what the issuer wants you to hear. Sure I would like to think that Kelli is doing this porn because she's horny and wants sex with her acting. I would also enjoy hearing that she's doing it as either a political or social statement, i.e. "take that right wing censorship freaks". That being all said and done it's going to be somewhat disillusioning (for me anyway) if we find out later down the line that she did porno because her mainstream career dried up, her husband left her, her home was in foreclosure and she was flat out broke without much hope for getting an equivalent paying job with the job skills she possesses.
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Posted - Jan 21 2009 : 12:36AM
...and Neech's interest in her will go up tenfold.
The way I see things: If I can say I don't want to see white guys in action, this guy can say he doesn't want to see black guys in action. The only difference is that I don't exclude all white guys like this guy is doing with black guys. I mean Rodney Moore is my hero and I guess that's the big difference!
^It's one thing to say "I don't want to see black guys in action" (or white guys, or black girls, or whatever). It's another thing to say, like that poster seems to be saying, "I don't ever want this porn girl to work with a black guy. Never. Not once. Even though I couldn't possibly buy all of her movies, so even if she did a handful of scenes with black guys it would never change the fact that I would still always have flicks to buy from her, just the fact that she did a scene with a black guy would be intolerable to me, and I would cease to be a fan."
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Posted - Jan 21 2009 : 12:06PM
Ramsey, Off topic: Who is the Dutch hero in your avatar?
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Posted - Jan 21 2009 : 12:17PM
Unless she is planning on doing porn full time and also feature dancing, is she really going to make that much money on one release? I mean, seriously, did anyone remotely know of this girl before the press release? Thus, why is she considered a celebrity?
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Posted - Jan 21 2009 : 12:34PM
^aside from the actual xxx version of the video I imagine that the softcore version will be sold thru the hotel and cable outlets. The XXX version will be downloaded for free and all the tube sites will run it royalty free - some dvd revenue thru the "couples" market, maybe. She will get a bizillion pgoto-shoots out of it and if it is popular there is feature dance and appearance fees.. Otherwise the porn business seems to be dieing. Maybe this is for a different thread, but I'll ask it here, how do the tube sites make money? I don't see that much in the way of advertisements on them?
^ A couple of things - first, yes your question about tube sites is probably better suited to a different thread, but I'll give you a quick answer anyway. They make money from the advertising - on any given page on a tube site there are about 20 different advertisements, and considering all their content is free (stolen), that's all profit. But also, they make money from the different "premium" programs you're starting to see them promoting, where you can become a member and then stream or download full movies from a growing catalog (your guess is as good as mine as to the ratio of legal-to-illegal releases they offer in this fashion). Second, in regards to how much money she'll make off this movie, I don't think how many copies it sells, or whether cable channels and hotels pick it up, will have anything to do with how much she'll make. It's likely that she'll be paid the same way most porn stars are usually paid - a one-time sum that was agreed to beforehand. I also imagine this movie won't be a one-time thing. She probably shot a handful of movies for Vivid at the same time, and my guess is you'll see them come out over the next two or three years. Whether she does any further work after the initial few flicks she's probably already shot, with Vivid or anyone else, likely depends on how well these movies do.
Clam, The free sites are usually showing edited clips (missing the money shots etc.). Then you get the links how to see the rest.. I don't know about you but if it is talent that I like I won't just be happy with the free scene. Some use banner ad revenue but this is a dying channel. Vivid contracts the girls (I don't think any other companies do this) get a 1 to 3 year contracts. The contracts range from $50,000-150,000 per year with a few exceptions. Janine and Jenna type stars get 4 times that top end figure (from the rumor mill). I know this is for another thread but I know how to fix the industry and choke out illegal distribution: Lower prices and go to on-line distribution. Clips $1.00 and full length $5.00. This move would end the free teaser sites and piracy while increasing volume and net revenue by eliminating so much overhead. Movies (non porn) used to be $70 and people were copying them for 10 of their friends while movie companies were building copy protection features and trying to sue pirates. Now movies are $10 so they net out $100 (rough example). Economics will drive solutions- Edited by - rbobbln on 1/21/2009 1:23:22 PM
@robbln, Clam Digger, and me I guess: this discussion definitely doesn't belong in this thread. Especially since these types of discussions are never short. Let's take any more discussion about porn business models, tube sites, etc. to this thread instead, and leave the current one for discussion about Kelli McCarty. Thanks guys.
I will refrain from any more financial discussions on this thread. I watched the trailer of Kelli but can't tell if she goes bareback. Anyone know if vivid is lightening up on condoms? I know this is a risky business but it looks better without the latex..
There's a difference between the theoretical and the practical. Hypothetically, I don't care who a "porn star" fucks. Practically, "porn stars" have a limited career span. If I want to pay to see a "porn star" fuck, then she's hot enough for me to want all her scenes. See where I'm going with this? She's got a career of x scenes ahead of her. I'd rather those x scenes be ones I'm interested in watching. None of this is meant to dodge the racism charge, a term I find self-contradictory and consequently meaningless as it violates its own strictures ("disparate impact" is "racism" yet all the impact of racism charges fall on white men like myself, thus proving the racism charge is guilty of violating itself). So feel free to call me a racist. I respond with, "and?" Edited by - john_qyoo_public on 1/21/2009 2:32:18 PM
True, that's a sign that you're a racist and a reason why some girls refuse to do interracial. It's guys like this john_qyoo_public that's giving us a bad name!
That's Geert Wilders. He wants to make Holland safe again like it use to be! Edited by - Ramsey on 1/21/2009 2:35:32 PM