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| posthum Member 349 Posts 12/09 |  Posted - Jun 3 2010 : 8:47AM[Link] |
| mharris127 Senior Member 1844 Posts 8/09 | Posted - Jun 4 2010 : 12:54AM As for Aurora Snow's hairline fracture, if it is true I am sorry to hear that. We very seldom hear about such injuries from them -- and if you read their shooting rules (also on their site) they forbid activity that would result in that much injury. Talent have actually argued with their staff about wanting more "marks" than Peter would allow, the rules are that stringent. A broken foot is very unusual. Another tidbit -- they were "figging" -- using a ginger root up a woman's ass. This video is in the documentary section. This ginger root ended up going so far up her rectum that they could not get it out. The host actually called the worker's comp company, took her to the hospital and had tests done to attempt to find the ginger root. It was never found and the docs said it would just disintegrate and come out naturally (in pieces). They could have just asked the local doc at the hospital that and got the answer without all the expense if they had been thinking! [Link] |
| melt Pornstar Diplomat The pride of Manchester 3763 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jun 4 2010 : 4:56AM Many girls I chat with have shown off pics of their "war-wounds" from shooting for Kink. Sierra and Cassandra shot recently for Public Disgrace and reported that both of them actually fainted during the shooting. Pictures of their wounds were displayed on Sierra's blog for all to see plus a detailed report on what by all accounts was a very rough shoot. Why people would want the girls treated any rougher than that I cannot understand.  [Link] |
| posthum Member 349 Posts 12/09 | Posted - Jun 4 2010 : 10:10AM Cassandra's blog didn't make it sound like she had a bad time, either.  Edited by - posthum on 6/4/2010 10:39:03 AM [Link] |
| wmike1 Member 181 Posts 12/06 | Posted - Jun 4 2010 : 1:49PM [Link] |
| melt Pornstar Diplomat The pride of Manchester 3763 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jun 4 2010 : 2:15PM [Link] |
| posthum Member 349 Posts 12/09 | Posted - Jun 4 2010 : 2:21PM In one of the blog articles I linked to Sierra said she asked kink to tone down the intensity a bit during a WP shoot, which they did. As unhappy as I am with kink's recent changes to the style of their updates, I do think their apparently good reputation among talent and agents is justified. Edited by - posthum on 6/4/2010 2:31:47 PM [Link] |
| melt Pornstar Diplomat The pride of Manchester 3763 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jun 4 2010 : 2:29PM ^ Watch the video (vlog) for all the details. [Link] |
| posthum Member 349 Posts 12/09 | Posted - Jun 4 2010 : 2:52PM Most of the people who wrote or told about their experience with kink made a point of how the company is a lot more professional than most of the valley based companies. Spiegler once said something to that effect, too. I wonder if that's something that has changed for the worse, too. For what it's worth, I'm currently not subscribed to any of their sites. Even if the quality did go back up to where it was a year ago, I'm not sure I'd be back with statements like Sierra's around. When I first found out about kink, pretty much all the sources around the industry made it sound like they play nice with talent. These days I'm not so sure anymore. Unlike some of Max Hardcore's followers around here, I do not rationalize how every kind of porn I like must have been produced ethically fine. Edited by - posthum on 6/4/2010 3:17:49 PM [Link] |
| Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Jun 4 2010 : 4:11PM [Link] |
| posthum Member 349 Posts 12/09 | Posted - Jun 4 2010 : 4:51PM Ultimately it's the usual story of a couple folks on a porn forum not being able to tell what precisely happened without having been in the room. I don't want to act like anyone's spokesperson nor do I want to put words in anyone's mouth. I didn't even really attack kink and say they've gone way over the top there. If you read my couple posts above the one you quoted I think that becomes pretty clear. All I said is my interpretation of what Sierra said made me unsure of how nice kink is playing with performers these days. Hardly something you can hold against me, is it? Edited by - posthum on 6/4/2010 5:23:43 PM [Link] |
| Fernandez Deactivated User 781 Posts 12/08 | Posted - Jun 4 2010 : 5:45PM [Link] |
| TheDevilHimself Deactivated User 11 Posts 6/10 | Posted - Jun 4 2010 : 6:26PM [Link] |
| KristineAndrews Member 16 Posts 5/09 | Posted - Jun 4 2010 : 6:31PM The behind kink makes it pretty clear real ginger was used. Its very common in BDSM and in the same line as the hot sauce they use(and I've talked to models it's been used on it's real). I've done it for another similar site, it's called figging. As someone who's modeled on wired pussy the "electo crap" hurts like hell. And how exactly do those lame caning scenes leave marks that later bruise purple a couple days later? Kink is the first place I ever shot and my favorite place to work. I have no idea what happened at Aurora and Casandras shoot but I've been in the audience for a number of PD shoots and am familiar the format. I'm not sure if what happened is because they were working through an agent because it sounded like Aurora might not have wanted to do anal for this particular shoot due to the evening shooting time. There is a checklist of all sorts of activities and the model checks off what is ok and for things like impact activities to what intensity. They range from slapping and electricity to what level of sexual activity is ok with aim tested audience members or fondling for non aim tested ones. All the guests read and sign the check list. I don't want to devaule their experience if things have changed. It does sound like things did not go well for them. I think one of the problems is that girls without a lot of bdsm experience don't know what kind of limits they have and can easily get in over their heads. If you've never felt a cattle prod you don't know if you hate it. Kink should really provide better guidance but I guess they care about content and having big names or fresh faces for public disgrace. I was scheduled to do Public Disgrace last fall but due the shoot got canceled and I need to write to Princess Donna again and see if we can reschedule because it looks like a lot of fun for me. I think I'd be going into from a different perspective having seen a number of them in person. Edited by - KristineAndrews on 6/4/2010 6:31:53 PM [Link] |
| Cassandra Calogera Member 152 Posts 2/08 | Posted - Jun 4 2010 : 9:30PM the only part that was "hard" for me was they caned me really good, i did have battle wounds but they ask you before hand if you want to be marked, i said i didnt care if they marked me at all so they marked me up quite a bit. and i loved every second of it. kink may not be to everyones style, if its not then dont watch it. i personally love the harder side of sex, getting slapped in the face and choked by a dick makes my pussy waaaaay more wet then gentle romantic caresses :) i love that kink offers girls an experience outside of the typical porn scene. for those that were bored by the scene, that sucks cuz i had a blast! <3 kink [Link] |
| KristineAndrews Member 16 Posts 5/09 | Posted - Jun 5 2010 : 1:12AM Keep making good porn and have fun. [Link] |
| ChodeMasterJ Perpetual Marxist 5405 Posts 4/03 | Posted - Jun 5 2010 : 1:27AM When the girl asks you to or it's agreed about beforehand, of course.  [Link] |
| mharris127 Senior Member 1844 Posts 8/09 | Posted - Jun 5 2010 : 2:36AM [Link] |
| posthum Member 349 Posts 12/09 | Posted - Jun 5 2010 : 6:26AM And thanks to Kristine and Cassandra for sharing the insider perspective. [Link] |
| melt Pornstar Diplomat The pride of Manchester 3763 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jun 5 2010 : 7:16AM I would also like to add my thanks to Kristine and Cassandra for giving us an insiders view of what actually happens at Kink. Talk about appropriate releasing. The Sierra and Cassandra Public Disgrace shoot released yesterday. Sample clips Sample pics [Link] |
| SierraSkye Member I'm the girl your mom warned you about <3 344 Posts 2/09 | Posted - Jun 5 2010 : 12:51PM Cassandra told me about this forum when she told me that our video had been posted. I'm a little confused as to why everyone on here is confused about my feelings towards kink. I write lengthily blogs with a ton of detail so I capture my experience so you can see it through my eyes (or that's what I try to do anyway. Kink is amazing. If you've ever met me or will meet me, you'll see that I'm a pretty quiet person and you'd never guess I'd be into the things that I am. Kink for me was a fantasy and a way to test my limits. Ever since I started porn, I wanted to work for Kink because of the fucking machines but I thought the other sites would be too intense for me. Cassandra was first to shoot for Kink and told me that it WAS intense but it was a ton of fun and something I might want to try. I was at a point where I wanted to try new things so when my agent hit me up within the last few months and told me that Kink wanted to shoot me, I was more then thrilled to give it a try. The worst that could happen is that I hate it and never go back but I wouldn't know unless I try, right? My FIRST shoot was Whipped Ass with Jayme Langford that wound up being a huge disaster. I actually thought the scene was pretty easy (because I had psyched myself up beforehand) and I was even doing g/g anal for the FIRST time!! Talk about pushing limits... The scene got canceled for reasons I've explained briefly in my blog but even after a crazy day and promising to bring me back, they did the next week! The SECOND time I shot for them was when Cassandra and I did our Public Disgrace shoot. Cassandra had done her solo one recently beforehand and told me that it was more intense then anything she's ever done so I prepared myself for it but even so, it was an experience like I've never had. I KNEW what I was getting myself into (from filling out paperwork and writing down my limits) but I had never shot for the site so I didn't know what they had in store for us. Looking back now, I love the way it came out because I think it's sexy as hell but the ACTUAL experience was hard to get through. Just like what KristineAndrews said you don't know what you're going to like until it happens to you, so I didn't know anything about the cattle prod and how bad it'd make me cry because it hurt so bad. Before you say anything!!. . . I do cry in my scenes because I'm a baby and it's my way to release what I'm feeling. They always address my crying and even though I'm crying I want to continue but it just feels better to vent with tears. The cattle prod made me scream and cry hysterically but it was a rush a the same time. The whole scene in itself just makes me go "oh...my.....god...." when I think about it but it was an experience I'm not into bdsm more then I ever was. I've shot 2 more times since Public Disgrace and I can't wait to shoot for them again! Please don't take my comments towards Kink as a bad thing. It was and always is a hard thing for me, it's crazy and intense but I love pushing my limits and doing kinking thing, especially Wired Pussy ;-) [Link] |
| mharris127 Senior Member 1844 Posts 8/09 | Posted - Jun 5 2010 : 11:59PM [Link] |
| melt Pornstar Diplomat The pride of Manchester 3763 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jun 6 2010 : 6:47AM @SierraSkye - Thanks so much for clarifying your position regarding Kink in such a detailed and informative way. In my experience ALL the girls I have chatted with have indicated a willingness to go back and shoot for them again despite the fact that in general the shoots were very "intense" Thats probably an indication that Kink do things correctly and always allow the girls ultimate say in what they are prepared to do and more importantly what they are not prepared to do. [Link] |
| pat362 Senior Member 10078 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Jun 6 2010 : 11:46AM I haven't tried their other sites but I am tempted by a few others. My biggest issue is with face slapping. I know it's weird but spanking and caning don't bother me but I can't stand to watch someone get slapped in the face and that's regardless that the person wants and will enjoy it. I know that I don't. [Link] |
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| pervlens Member 29 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Jun 6 2010 : 1:29PM On another note I think Kink has become complacent with it's position as arguably the industry's only BDSM power house, I think if they are not careful they could ultimately end up paying a price similar to the old Insex. I have seen snippets of footage, statements, reportings and accounts from models over the last year and abit that makes me question just how closely Kink adhere to a safe and sane environment - I used to think they respected all of their performers and catered to their needs as well as any employer can but recent reports from specific individuals have forced me to reevaluate if they are not a little to concerned with the creativity and harshness of a scene that they sometimes sacrifice the limits/wellbeing of the model. Saying that, Hardtied and InfernalRestraints seem to push models way further than looks comfortable. The thing is with BDSM it is difficult to ascertain true, undesirable pain and struggling with the kind that the person has and is accepting and doesn't wish to stop but endure and push through it. I've played in BDSM sessions before, I love it and sometimes i've cried and had pain/injuries that have lasted a couple of days to a couple of weeks BUT I chose to accept that and didn't safeword just to endure it and push some boundaries... I imagine for some of the models this is a very valid part of play, Sarah Jane Ceylon for example regularly takes on hard scenes and looks uncomfortable and pain but ask her about it and I suspect the answer would be a statement of pushing through the pain and testing her endurance. I like Kink and still continue to watch from afar, I like the fact that Peter started it from humble beginnings and that they are/have done as well as they have, I love that this guy has made his dreams a reality and constructed a World he enjoys and loves. It's inspirational to me for those reasons despite the content not living up to previous times. I'm sure it will improve, once Kink realises members opinion count for a lot. I also think Kink is just about the best company for girls and guys to have their first BDSM experience with, they are experts in that field and I would say, more trustworthy than other industry professionals besides Kink also offers a lot of variety on the BDSM scale, they have the softer sites (fucking machines, tsseduction) up to the much harder sites (TTOO, PD and TUF). Geez... what a ramble! [Link] |
| posthum Member 349 Posts 12/09 | Posted - Jun 6 2010 : 6:13PM With 10 minutes four times a week (part of those being interviews and not content) kink is not an option for me and with a questionable commitment to performers' safety neither is Insex. In the worst case I'll just stick to vanilla stuff until kink dumps that new update schedule and adjusts their focus back on what got them where they are: quality updates once a week around 45-60 minutes. I'll have to have a look at new Insex first, don't want to make any statements about a company I really don't know much about. I agree it's very impressive how far Acworth took the company. I hope he's not too caught up with TUF to realize how many people dislike the changing style. Edited by - posthum on 6/6/2010 6:20:14 PM [Link] |
| mharris127 Senior Member 1844 Posts 8/09 | Posted - Jun 6 2010 : 11:00PM [Link] |
| KristineAndrews Member 16 Posts 5/09 | Posted - Jun 7 2010 : 12:06AM I know they are being much more careful using scouts and stuff with Public Disgrace in the outdoor shoots in avoiding children being exposed to any nudity or explicit sexuality. I was concerned about the issue of children being exposed myself. They are changing how they deal with outdoor scenes and being much more careful now. But those lovely shoes... Donna put me in them for my second shoot ever, my first experience with electricity. Sandra Romain was Domming me on Wired Pussy. When you put any weight on the heal of the shoe it connects a circuit activating the electrodes placed in sensitive places on the body. For a pretty effect the shoes also light up when the circuit is complete. Apparently I was too good at standing on my toes cause Sandra ended up ordering me to dance around in the heavy shoes and make them light up and be pretty. It's one of my favorite scenes to go back and watch. I also got hit with a cattle prod dozens of times in that shoot and it didn't harm me in any way In a lot of ways things like a cattle prod are just a good mind fuck. The sound of it is often just as scary as the actual sting of the prod itself. But really what I'm saying if I'm going to let anyone shock me with something new I'd trust Princess Donna to do it. [Link] |
| alexl467 Member Bklyn, NY 873 Posts 4/03 | Posted - Jun 7 2010 : 12:26AM Since you seem to be more than just on-camera talent can you please answer the question I posed to Bobbi Starr in the quoted post? [Link] |
| KristineAndrews Member 16 Posts 5/09 | Posted - Jun 7 2010 : 9:42PM My understanding is that they just simply do not wish to pursue the DVD route at this time. You could always go on the kink forums and see if you could get a more official answer. [Link] |
| mharris127 Senior Member 1844 Posts 8/09 | Posted - Jun 8 2010 : 12:04AM For a beginner, if you want to work for Kink I would recommend Lew Ruebens to start out. I saw his documentary clip working with Bobbi Starr in 2006 when she did her first scene and he was wonderful to her (although I do question tying someone helplessly and putting them in a vat of water). He seems to have good control of the situation and he is an excellent rigger. He is also willing to break someone in gradually starting with the light stuff, giving his subs a good enjoyable introduction to BDSM. He starts people out similar to what I would do rather than some who start out by beating the sub within an inch of her life on the first time (of course turning the sub off to further BDSM). [Link] |
| alexl467 Member Bklyn, NY 873 Posts 4/03 | Posted - Jun 8 2010 : 1:39AM Thanks alexl467 [Link] |
| cocacoladdict Member 359 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Jun 8 2010 : 1:33PM |
| Mojo Deactivated User 1223 Posts 9/03 | Posted - Jun 9 2010 : 7:25AM [Link] |
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| leatherface Senior Member 1258 Posts 7/07 | Posted - Jun 9 2010 : 12:03PM [Link] |
| ChodeMasterJ Perpetual Marxist 5405 Posts 4/03 | Posted - Jun 10 2010 : 12:23AM [Link] |
| pervlens Member 29 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Jun 10 2010 : 1:34AM I personally like the freedom an online listing of clips provides so i'm not skipping scenes I find less interesting which of late with recent Kink stuff I have been doing. [Link] |
| ultimate_dap_fan Member 832 Posts 5/07 | Posted - Jun 10 2010 : 6:21PM [Link] |
| SierraSkye Member I'm the girl your mom warned you about <3 344 Posts 2/09 | Posted - Jun 10 2010 : 6:47PM I was having the shittiest day and u ust put a smile on my face. Thats so awesome, thank you!! <3 [Link] |
| ultimate_dap_fan Member 832 Posts 5/07 | Posted - Jun 11 2010 : 3:29AM sorry you had a bad day , i read your blog and can't imagine the way you must be feeling , well let me tell you something , i won't say you the hot, beautiful, fantastic, sexy as hell, perfect in every way and an example of how a woman's body should be like because i said it many times and i said you are ready to do anything and if you are linking anal with your weight loss then you should do it like yesterday. i said it all already and feel like i'm smothering you with that anal thing but it's just i've been waiting since i ever laid my eyes on you in your first scene ever. what i will say is that believe it or not one of the facts of life is that YOU CAN'T SATISFY EVERYONE , you can't link your selfesteem with what people say about you , if some mentally retarded jerks are saying you are overweight , there are thousands who think you are the perfect the way you are and you want a prof ??? ok i'll give you one , YOU ARE ONE HELL OF A SUCCESSFUL PORNSTAR , why do you think you are that popular being booked that much and your thread here is like 450 replies in only one year if you are not seen by thousands as a perfect pornstar ( considering also that you don't do many things like anal, dp, swallowing, only did interracial recently ) . if this should tell you something , it would be that you are one of the most desired most achieved girls in the last 2 years nothing less than skinny girls like tori black and christina rose in their non-anal years. but to link your selfesteem with what a minority of retards say ?? forgive me but that's not wise , do you think if you loose like another 30 pounds that you will satisfy everyone ?? you will find some people saying you are great , others would say you became too skinny and were much better before , others may say you still need to loose some more weight , just the same situation you are in right now : some people say you should loose weight but THE MASSIVE MAJORITY is drooling over you and say you are goddess ( hell if you ask my opinion i'd say that although you are in great shape now, i prefer the old sierra when she just started performing before that weight loss ) . so it's a matter of how you feel about yourself , when the day comes that you can look at yourself in the mirror and smile and be satisfied with your body then you must say : i'm the sexiest woman alive and screw everybody else ,,, and then you should look for a cock and put it in your ass ( oops i did it again bringing up the anal, sorry but it is my dream ) woooow , that was my longest post ever on ADT , i hope it made you feel better. xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo [Link] |
| jizzyjay Member 914 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Jun 11 2010 : 3:34PM [Link] |
| Steve Holmes Senior Member 1235 Posts 12/02 | Posted - Jun 13 2010 : 6:30AM [Link] |
| cubesnake Senior Member 3858 Posts 10/02 | Posted - Jun 13 2010 : 10:03AM Cube Edited by - cubesnake on 6/13/2010 10:04:06 AM Edited by - cubesnake on 6/13/2010 2:30:59 PM [Link] |
| jizzyjay Member 914 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Jun 13 2010 : 2:07PM [Link] |
| tialing Member http://www.tialing.com 495 Posts 4/07 | Posted - Jun 13 2010 : 9:48PM [Link] |
| mharris127 Senior Member 1844 Posts 8/09 | Posted - Jun 14 2010 : 2:57AM On a lighter note, note to myself to subscribe to Hogtied next month. I just hope my 1Mbps connection can handle it. [Link] |
| Steve Holmes Senior Member 1235 Posts 12/02 | Posted - Jun 14 2010 : 7:50PM [Link] |
| jizzyjay Member 914 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Jun 14 2010 : 7:58PM [Link] |
| ultimate_dap_fan Member 832 Posts 5/07 | Posted - Jun 15 2010 : 12:34AM [Link] |
| mharris127 Senior Member 1844 Posts 8/09 | Posted - Jun 15 2010 : 4:04AM Wow! 64 scenes for one company, including domming Princess Donna. I hope you really showed her what it is like to be a sub. She seems pretty evil sometimes as a dom. People like Donna need to be brought back to reality once in a while. [Link] |
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